People & Politics | Relation Germany - Poland

[SecretLegionsPL]

We are everlasting enemies,t his is simple true. Polish - German war is never ending story.

[ragnarokf]

@someoneinusa

Whatever you say can basically sum up as, "they did something worse, so what if we did something bad to them?". I'd think a mature person would know two wrongs don't make a right, huh.

[bixhoz1]

Hello everyone, message from Albania. Do you want peace for the future? Forgive each other! PLEASE! If you 2 huge countries fight, what are the small countries to think?! That the world is over! Seriously! you scare us!

[EnemyOfNazis]

Grow up !!!

Germans and Poles have intermarried and shared love of beer & sauerkraut since Jesus !!!

[Kevinph84]

Ok.....Give Germany Breslau and Stettin. Then you must give Poland Grodno and L'wow. Germans weren't the only ethnic group who were expelled from their ancestral lands. Remember! Poland moved westward, but it also lost more land in its east

[kashoob2123]

@Kevinph84 right and if germany would not started WW2 we would have got now our lands and germny their. the second thing is the fact that it is beacause of germans we are bankrupt and have no ifrastructure and industry. if it were not for WW2 50ty year lasting russian slavery and roberry would have never happend. Germany never repayed for Poland wat we lost and suffered.

[tommi59tk]

@kashoob2123 sad but true

[Issil666]

Times have changed, Germans are our friends. It's hard to find a German who is talking shit about Poland even on the internet.

[Mordercabrudasow]

@Issil666 well it seems you have no idea :)

[Issil666]

@Mordercabrudasow Why do you think so, Morderco Brudasów? I'm a patriot but I don't see how modern Germans are our enemies.

[toki1221]

it's funny to see ww2 losers germany, italy and japan are now developed countries. but 'winner' poland is still poor. and 1 more thing, 3 countries make good cars, haha. axis forever!

[tommipastrami]

I would certainly not consider Poland a winner of WW2, as we were betrayed by the Western Allies and handed over to Stalin where we suffered through over forty years of communism. Also for this reason I would not consider Poland "poor" as it is the fastest developing former-eastern bloc nation.

[MaximusProteus]

"axis forever" - so that`s the reason? There`s one common thing also my Jap freind... you haven`t had communism.

Btw. Japan before and right after the war was poorer than Poland.

[ferdovit]

east Germany axis was poor like other communist countries... Best east German car was Wartburg - proof that no nationality but system do this.

[9841108]

@toki1221 You forget, that Germany would be nothing without the millions of workers from Turkey and Ex-Yugoslavia, wich Germany invited during the 60ies to rebulid Germany.

[someoneinusa]

Poland did not come out of WWII as a winner. Only the western part of Europe was liberated by US, Russia did not liberate anyone.

Soviet Russia just used the opportunity to capture Eastern and Central European countries for itself, after Hitler was defeated. Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia was just a same type of criminals.

[RobertBF2]

@toki1221 do know about poland was to 1989 under comunist occupation??

[granskare]

this Erica person reminds me of our Sarah :)

[someoneinusa]

Sure, "poor Germany" was provoked by Poland, because Poland's sole existence ruined Germans dream about building "German Empire" on polish lands.

[husbert]

@someoneinusa

wow ! so we started a war? i didnt know that i started a war.

thanks for that information dude !

[someoneinusa]

yes, and that's why if you loose the war you started, it means you loose. So you germans stop crying about loosing some silly German Empire. If you need an empire built it on the Moon :)

[snuffles1111]

Yeah, on the Moon, or try to expand to the west, I'm sure the French will be overwhelmed with happiness! xDDD

For fuck's sake, why can everyone else just stick to their territory, and why is it ALWAYS germs who think they can GROW it??!

There's sth profoundly wrong with germs!

[someoneinusa]

If you Germans in 1939 decided to start a "total war" against Poland meaning that you planed to distroy entire nation, once and for all.

...you know it is hypocritical to complain that Poles did fight back, and also you got some loses...

You can not assault someone, meaning to kill him, and hoping for mercy when you start loosing the war YOU greedy Germas started!

You Germans started this war not to get your lands back, but to get you empire back....

[caseblue1]

This is so much crap, the German And Polish borders should be put back where they were in 1939. And while we are at it the Russian border should be set back to pre carizist Russia, the days of country gobbeling is over for them.

[EsqDave]

Geez, don't you know you're not allowed to talk about the expellees and the 2 million+ Germans who were killed in 1945-1947? They don't count, only non-German victims can be talked about. .... unless, of course, one cares about truth.

[someoneinusa]

Between 1934-45 you Germans enslaved 2/3 of Europe, and wanted to rule for "1000 years" , but your plan did not work, and now you Germans are complaining that you paid the price for murdering over 20 milion Jews, Poles, Russians and others....

We are not talking about "German victims" because in WWII, Germans were invadors, not vice versa.

If you Germans were not land greedy, in 1939 you would still have your collonies in Poland.

look up the "cause and effect" in the dictionary.

[EsqDave]

Think again.

The National Socialists were the aggressors. Speaking out meant the Gestapo would arrest you, beat you, put you to concentration camp and, in many cases, kill you. They terrorized the German people.

From 1945-1949, Ethnic Germans in the East - NO connection to the war in any way - were raped, killed, "relocated" and murdered by the Russians (etc).

For you to say that the death of innocent children is okay because they were born German makes you just as bad as the Nazis.

[someoneinusa]

Germans in the former East Prussia benefited from Nazi Germany invasion on Poland in 1945. Your current German president Hoerst Kohler, was born in 1943 in the Eastern Poland, Skierbieszow village, near Lublin...man his parents were settled there by Nazi Germans, who wanted to collonize entire Poland...There was no single ethnic German living in Eastern Poland prior to WWII and Nazi Germany invasion on Poland.

You were there as occupiers, exploited Polands resources mudered milions of Poles.

[IlluminationGlobal]

@someoneinusa That there was no single ethnic German living in Eastern Poland prior the war is simply wrong. Even around Warszawa the number of German habitants was significant.

[someoneinusa]

Those "ethnic Germans in the East" were cheering up German Nazi Army when it invaded Poland, hoping to benefit from "getting ridd of Poles, Jews once and for all".

From 1939 untill 1945, 80% of Polish national treasure was stolen by Germans and send to Germany. Nazi Germany distroyed 80% of Polish heavy industry, and infrastructure, in Warsaw close to 90% of building was blowned up, burned.

Nazi Germany murdered 6 milion Poles and your gov. planned that by 1975 there will be no Poles left...

[9841108]

@someoneinusa You are right, also in Hungary ethnic German nazi-organisations like "Volksbund" planned to create a German state in the area of Hungary, where most eth. Germ. lived, and later this state should join nazi-Germany.

[zeinbrug]

nazi is out dated trem, and their are differnt way,s to talk about natiol solcialism. and their,s nothing worn with sates being shared between poland and germany.

[9841108]

@someoneinusa They planned that the ethnic Germans will rule here, and Hungarians will be their slaves, or others wanted to send Hungarians to Asia.Now they are crying bcz after WW2 Volksbund members and supporters got deported from Hungary.

[9841108]

@someoneinusa They even compare the deportation to the cruelities of the holocaust.I think it was the minimum that german nazi supporters had to leave Hungary after the war.Germans and Austrians are the worst hypocrites in Europe.

[someoneinusa]

Yes, when In 1939 when Germany invaded Poland, Germans did that to get ridd of Poles once and for all, they did not consider situaction that Germany might come out of the WWII as loosers.

At that time Nazi Germany propaganda never considered, being loosers, they never thought they will need to explain anything to anyone.

So now Germans find itself in an "uncomfortable" situation, having to deal with the consequences of their unimaginable crimes against Jews, Poles etc, during WWII.

[RobertBF2]

@EsqDave and 10 milion Poles who were killed in 1939-1945?

[Trottellumme123]

@RobertBF2 6 million

[RobertBF2]

@Trottellumme123 6 milions it is minimum in 1938 in Poland lived 34 849 000 and after war lived only 23 930 000