@dockaiser I don´t get that? I know artists say some songs don´t fit larger venues... but I always wondered how they think? Like there´s a great recent clip where they play "Not fade away" at a smaller place. Why not at a big one?
The problem with the Stones nowadays is that Mick basically stopped singing sometime around 1980, and too many musicians on stage, so no member has to carry any weight, like here. Today it´s like one stone can stop playing, and no one will notice.
@baskethilt What I tried to say is, that there is a lot of spontaneity and improvisation going on at this gig, which requires to communicate among the musicians. On those gigantic stages it's hard to communicate, maybe with 1 or 2 musicians in your closer area, but it's hard to contact 12 musicians simultaneously.
But I agree, those concerts from the late 80's on are just boring, 'cause of perfection. They totally lack the Stones typical feeling ...
@dockaiser Thanks for your reply. Those late 60s and 70s shows has a certain vibe that is immideately recognisable even on my laptop. Extasy. Later stuff is more like "yeah, it´s actually good, when I listen carefully in my headphones". Mick is working hard for that extasy nowadays, maybe too hard hehe...
It's from a film called Rolling Stones at the Marquee. Recorded at the Marquee Club in London, March 26, 1971. Search YouTube for Marquee, Google it there's quite a lot of info on it. Watch for torrents. It was released as a DVD apparently. It's more of a filmed rehearsal than a concert. And it's a treasure.
The way people are commenting on keith becoming so lazy, you's do all knows its to do with the key he chose to play the song in? Thats like saying he played tumbling dice with a capo on the second fret because he was lazy, it made the song on what it was?
The pure and furious force of Rock´n Roll !!! No one band has the group and individual talent like the Stones... Is simply awesome to see these guys playing on the B-side !!!
@UKRod Love his nonchalent, nothing-out-of-the-ordinary expression as he says these words. Some people have to pay for these words to be actioned - not Mick at that time.
@keef186 You ever tried to tune a guitar on a noisy stage with thousands of people clapping and screaming and yelling? Almost impossible! You can't hear yourself.
March 26, 1971, when the band played London's Marquee Club. The gig was very private; tickets weren't sold to the general public, and most of the Stones fans living in London had no idea that it was taking place.
jesus...im sure Mick Taylor had his own good reasons to leave, but i mean...listen to this...how did he not feel the magic here..that shoulda been enough for him to stay...i know mick and keef were nazis when it came to songwriting but....ugh...LISTEN TO THIS !!!!!!!!! ALL BALLS...NO THINKIN' ALLOWED!!!!!
The Stones in the 1970s could be the adage of Western culture... Just great. This whole show is on many bootlegs, but the best one is from "The Swinging Pig", best bootleg company.
Oh My Lord, a bass flourish by Bill at 7:50. Gotta listen a couple of times, but it's there. Dropping a little statement, but shows he's got some life after all. Man, do I love these guys. Sooooo good.
This video clip shows why they are the Greatest Rock and Roll Band in the World! Amazing to see them play as a band, as musicians--here they are really tight and instinctive with each other. And they nail this song--no flash just rock-solid playing. One of their greatest live songs.
@jamal49 There's only three things that made groups like The Stones so tight: practice, practice, practice-both individually, to learn their respective instruments and together, to learn their repertoire of songs. Todays groups should try and emulate this. HINT HINT
@edmonddantes64 You're right, today's bands should. But they don't have to. There are machines to fix missed notes, there are machines to correct instrument and vocal pitch. Mind you, they all sound like singing robots. I look for real singing and playing in blues nowadays. It's all there. The Stones knew that - they started as a pure blues band.
If you can play this at all without the capo/7 then you can't be playing what Richards was playing. You would have to be a freak of nature to get the fingers down correctly using a barre chord.
@PAULLONDEN ...That's interesting cause he's playing 'Let it Rock' and 'Dead Flowers' from the same show without one.....and as anyone who knows anything about it...boy..don't...need....one.
To play this song properly you need to use a capo.
It's in Open G w/ a capo on the 4th fret.
(It looks like he might have it a little higher on this version, which would mean he was tuned to a lower register, but it's hard to tell from the video.)
Switching to standard tuning and/or retuning after changing the capo position tends to slow the show down, especially on tv.
Yeah, it looks like G cuz of the Capo, but as someone else here also noted, its capo'ed because its some really harsh, crazy riffing off of just a 7th fret, standard "B" chord. If you do a search on YouTube some good versions come up but they go down just as fast due to copyright. A Youtuber named "MyFavoriteVideoClip" has a great tutorial on it.
I have a really good Guitar Pro arrangement with open G 4 capo, but the file is somehow corrupt and won't open in GP for Mac. It does work for Windows but I don't have the Windows GP anymore. Grrrr.
There are no arrangements for this song in open tunings. It's a blues shuffle totally written in and for standard tuning. Keith would never try to play this in some open tuning.
eh what? Midnight rambler has never been played in any open tunings. Most of their songs are played in standard tuning. Some were recorded in Open D, others Open G. He didnt use different guitars for all songs in 1973 not more so than other years but they may have had more songs played with open G tuning in 1972 and 1973 than in 1969.
Love Mick's harmonica playing...hey Francis, much as the Beatles are great, the Stones win, hands down, they'll always be my favorite... this is absolutely unbelievable!
the downfall of my life is.. i wanted to be mick jagger...but there will be only one "mick jagger" and thats 'mick jagger'.. me..a lost soul who lived a rather insignificant life. invisible to the world.
I'm not into Mick Jagger but you hit it on the head with "a lost soul who lived a rather insignificant life. invisible to the world." It sucks, doesn't it? Makes you wanna write a song about it.
Ik moet zeggen dat er betere films van Midnight Rambler op you tube staan. Ik mis hier iets. Ik mis hier veel. Ze hebben hun avond niet of hun juiste hoeveelheid...
Kijk eens naar Stones in the park, het spat daar van af.
I've been searching for the last 35 years,and I can't find a better version of this song then the one on "Get Yer Ya Yas out"...They NEVER play the last 1:30 of this song like they do on that Live album..I've had bootleg albums back in the 1970's from all over the world,and they just don't play it like that..It's a great solo
I have posted before that the midnight rambler version of get yer ya ya's out is one of the best live recordings ever. Alle other versions I heard (about 15) are inferior.
yeah man, the satisfaction in that movie is so killer. i wish it was on ya ya's. and the jumpin jack has an awesome solo, that the one on ya ya's does not.
Great Song but i think the 1972 stp tour version is the best. Mick is on fucking fire during the song. just as he start's he take's a big sip of JD and the Rock's it for 9min's.The band also rock's as well it's the Stones man.
AWESOME song!!!10/10* Watch my version:)))
Urankar3 3 weeks ago
J'ai vu cette prestation dans un POP 2 de 1971
MrJeepsters 3 weeks ago
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Keith Richard suche hilfe und mitglieder in der Gruppe wer kann helfen
usbahrap 1 month ago
After Taylor left the Stones were all done. Also after Taylor left Jagger stopped writing good lyrics and mostly wrote love songs to his aging dick.
HumanityTheVirus 2 months ago
WHO FOUND THIS ONE????Gem
TheBitterSweetgr 2 months ago
It,'s Mick Taylor doing all the interesting guitar parts...
phisterlogsauce 6 months ago
You know, Mick Taylor was such a solid rhythm guitarist
MrTriss83 8 months ago
@MrTriss83 So true. Mick Taylor is well rounded as a player.
cameltooth1 5 months ago
@MrTriss83 Mick Taylor played lead only... Hello? Keith suks on lead..
THXcooper 2 months ago
Stonesやばすぎ!
69shiro69 9 months ago 2
i looked behind me too see if the angels were there/[./[/.[./.
rollingstopp 9 months ago
Mick Taylor is amazing here - kinda like Clapton with the Bluesbreakers.
bamboosa 9 months ago
they couldn't do that anymore these days - not on a stage by the size of a football field
dockaiser 1 year ago
@dockaiser I don´t get that? I know artists say some songs don´t fit larger venues... but I always wondered how they think? Like there´s a great recent clip where they play "Not fade away" at a smaller place. Why not at a big one?
The problem with the Stones nowadays is that Mick basically stopped singing sometime around 1980, and too many musicians on stage, so no member has to carry any weight, like here. Today it´s like one stone can stop playing, and no one will notice.
baskethilt 7 months ago
@baskethilt What I tried to say is, that there is a lot of spontaneity and improvisation going on at this gig, which requires to communicate among the musicians. On those gigantic stages it's hard to communicate, maybe with 1 or 2 musicians in your closer area, but it's hard to contact 12 musicians simultaneously.
But I agree, those concerts from the late 80's on are just boring, 'cause of perfection. They totally lack the Stones typical feeling ...
dockaiser 7 months ago
@dockaiser Thanks for your reply. Those late 60s and 70s shows has a certain vibe that is immideately recognisable even on my laptop. Extasy. Later stuff is more like "yeah, it´s actually good, when I listen carefully in my headphones". Mick is working hard for that extasy nowadays, maybe too hard hehe...
baskethilt 7 months ago
that break at 6:42 is priceless, plus Mick's smile towards the other Mick ..
dockaiser 1 year ago
March 6, 1971
DrWeirdPro 1 year ago
@DrWeirdPro didn't they play the Coventry Theatre that night?
keef186 1 year ago
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It's from a film called Rolling Stones at the Marquee. Recorded at the Marquee Club in London, March 26, 1971. Search YouTube for Marquee, Google it there's quite a lot of info on it. Watch for torrents. It was released as a DVD apparently. It's more of a filmed rehearsal than a concert. And it's a treasure.
scotty 1 year ago
The way people are commenting on keith becoming so lazy, you's do all knows its to do with the key he chose to play the song in? Thats like saying he played tumbling dice with a capo on the second fret because he was lazy, it made the song on what it was?
MrRollingStone72 1 year ago
The pure and furious force of Rock´n Roll !!! No one band has the group and individual talent like the Stones... Is simply awesome to see these guys playing on the B-side !!!
hacknroll 1 year ago
que pasadera
quehayqueponeraca 1 year ago
@UKRod Love his nonchalent, nothing-out-of-the-ordinary expression as he says these words. Some people have to pay for these words to be actioned - not Mick at that time.
MMRJL 1 year ago
According to The Rolling Stones Chronicle, it was on March 26th.
chasman369 1 year ago
You use a capo in order to get different droning strings or voicings, it has nothing to do with laziness. Richard Thompson uses one all the time.
Keef is a guitar genius.
skylolo99 1 year ago 2
@skylolo99 - He changes tempo about four times on this tune and manages to take the band with him all the way through.
gamoonbat 1 year ago
You use a capo in order to get different voicings not cuz yer lazy - Keef is a guitar genius
skylolo99 1 year ago
good song, good performance, but I really dislike those quick shots, in quick succession!
vschauf 1 year ago
If you notice No bas and no drums
tejastiger61 1 year ago
@tejastiger61 - Charlie and Bill are rocking right along here. Poorly recorded, though.
gamoonbat 1 year ago
According to The Rolling Stones Chronicle, it was filmed on March 26.
chasman369 1 year ago
According to The Rolling Stones Chronicle, it was filmed on March 26.
chasman369 1 year ago
According to The Rolling Stones Chronical, it was filmed on March 26.
chasman369 1 year ago
@keef186 That's not true. He was a huge rockstar; he just had somebody else do it.
202pdiddy 1 year ago
@202pdiddy right that's what roadies are for
bleelac 1 year ago
That's glam rock garb on Mick for sure.
CivilizedJerk 1 year ago
Howdy ya'll. It's my bd today, and im stuck in a place that stinks lol
So i thought i needed to hear this...
a little old fashioned raunchiness will help!
Thanks for posting this historic doc
;-) weir4ever
WEIR4EVER 1 year ago 3
Too bad they didn't do Can't you hear me knocking durng this show
jwjeffrey 1 year ago
"And it HURTS"..9:50▬scary.....
PAULLONDEN 1 year ago
@keef186 A new guitar most of the time isn't in tune when you get it out of the case so it really doesn't matter whether you use a new one or not.
And he uses a capo because it's the only way to play these songs the right way.
ErikMartijn 1 year ago
i think i have this (original video release) without the bottom of the screen...
TEMPmichaelhansen 1 year ago
Awesome! That Is The Stones!
mrwoodrow 1 year ago
@keef186 You ever tried to tune a guitar on a noisy stage with thousands of people clapping and screaming and yelling? Almost impossible! You can't hear yourself.
swiggy58a 1 year ago
that was awesome and I don't really like this song.
they definitely aren't the same band now - and couldn't be even if they tried.
shimokita2 1 year ago
@keef186 yes it´s true!!
gunnymorales74 1 year ago
March 26, 1971, when the band played London's Marquee Club. The gig was very private; tickets weren't sold to the general public, and most of the Stones fans living in London had no idea that it was taking place.
mustaffakrap 1 year ago
jesus...im sure Mick Taylor had his own good reasons to leave, but i mean...listen to this...how did he not feel the magic here..that shoulda been enough for him to stay...i know mick and keef were nazis when it came to songwriting but....ugh...LISTEN TO THIS !!!!!!!!! ALL BALLS...NO THINKIN' ALLOWED!!!!!
fmxkool 1 year ago
great harp .....
goonchistaw 1 year ago
Does anyone know the exact date of the show?
Skald82 1 year ago
They had a bit of a layoff between March 14-26th so its somewhere in between
keef186 1 year ago 2
the video for Dead Flowers from this set of gigs/this gig is said to be from 6 March 1971, if that means anything.
DWGarvin 1 year ago
@Skald82 according to the website of the marquee club was on March 26
cbruster 3 months ago
what harp used he?
hohner, suzuki or lee oskar?
nitemarehippyboy 2 years ago
@nitemarehippyboy hohner.
teden20 1 year ago
i think i have this without the numbers at the bottom...
TEMPmichaelhansen 2 years ago
The Stones in the 1970s could be the adage of Western culture... Just great. This whole show is on many bootlegs, but the best one is from "The Swinging Pig", best bootleg company.
BlueCobolt 2 years ago
can you share the debut live version in hyde park for stones Midnight rambler?
thanks
the video one is not complete
and why 1969 tour version of this song had no video?
limunan 2 years ago
allright here's the bajillion dolla question..........what key is the harp that mick is blowin?
skajellafetti 2 years ago
B I think
BCSide 2 years ago
@skajellafetti The song's in B so he's an E harp.
charlierossiter 2 years ago 8
Hey, correct me if I'm wrong, but in all the existing videos of the Stones, I've never seen Keith lose his place.
He always said he cleaned up before a tour.
keefek 2 years ago
little heroin , a little cocaine, the clothes look good and the music sounds fine
mikeerowee 2 years ago
Great performance but extremely annoying video editing.
MyTwangyGuitar 2 years ago
Classics...fantastic..eternal moments
paparrapaparrapapum 2 years ago
9:54...My gawd,Richards looked
unrecognisable there,spooky.
Not 'elegantly' wasted at all here
Was almost about to die,like many of his,
compatriots in those years,
Somebody up there must've liked him.
PAULLONDEN 2 years ago
Very good!!!
oooVOODOOTONGUEooo 2 years ago 2
And it hurts ♀
PAULLONDEN 2 years ago
hey Keef, that's my guitar you're playing
vdbdg 2 years ago
hahaha this song is so Bad Ass!!!
SirPsychosexY5150 2 years ago
Oh My Lord, a bass flourish by Bill at 7:50. Gotta listen a couple of times, but it's there. Dropping a little statement, but shows he's got some life after all. Man, do I love these guys. Sooooo good.
skinnycimmerian 2 years ago 3
Yeah, that gold sequined vest thing is for a little girl training poodles in the circus. LOL.
ironbuttermilk 2 years ago
Taylor's vibrato is positively succulent.
bobgure 2 years ago 3
Fantastic song!
LesPaulGoldTop21 2 years ago 3
Love Charlie's cymbal at 6:35. Class!
airevault 2 years ago 3
Thank you for posting this. ROCK-N-ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!
undermoonlightglow 2 years ago 4
It's funny...I love the Let it Bleed album, but this was always a song I could take or leave, until I saw it live. Now I love this song.
ChipHugger 2 years ago 2
to me..this is the Rolling Stones best song
karaokekills 2 years ago 6
WOW !
freshgreens2006 2 years ago
Fuckin A
kingofthedeep 2 years ago 2
This video clip shows why they are the Greatest Rock and Roll Band in the World! Amazing to see them play as a band, as musicians--here they are really tight and instinctive with each other. And they nail this song--no flash just rock-solid playing. One of their greatest live songs.
jamal49 2 years ago 29
@jamal49 There's only three things that made groups like The Stones so tight: practice, practice, practice-both individually, to learn their respective instruments and together, to learn their repertoire of songs. Todays groups should try and emulate this. HINT HINT
edmonddantes64 1 year ago
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@edmonddantes64 You're right, today's bands should. But they don't have to. There are machines to fix missed notes, there are machines to correct instrument and vocal pitch. Mind you, they all sound like singing robots. I look for real singing and playing in blues nowadays. It's all there. The Stones knew that - they started as a pure blues band.
Kaalec 1 year ago
@jamal49 PERFECT COMMENT!
sweetiepie1959 9 months ago
fuckin nasty!
OldSkaterGuy 2 years ago 4
1:08 Capo....
Would be too exhausting
to play otherwise ☺
PAULLONDEN 2 years ago
Capo at what - 7th fret?
Do you know if he's in open G?
5 strings?
vaveon 2 years ago
Keith had for almost every song another capo'd guitar, he became a bit lazy.
I can play this without capo,but not for very long though ▬☺
Anywayz....who could blame him,as long as it sounds alright./
PAULLONDEN 2 years ago
@PAULLONDEN On the other hand.. Brian May from queen used the same guitar for nearly every song.
nanderv 1 year ago
If you can play this at all without the capo/7 then you can't be playing what Richards was playing. You would have to be a freak of nature to get the fingers down correctly using a barre chord.
KeithSmith1951 1 year ago
@PAULLONDEN ...That's interesting cause he's playing 'Let it Rock' and 'Dead Flowers' from the same show without one.....and as anyone who knows anything about it...boy..don't...need....one.
clean3 1 year ago
@PAULLONDEN
To play this song properly you need to use a capo.
It's in Open G w/ a capo on the 4th fret.
(It looks like he might have it a little higher on this version, which would mean he was tuned to a lower register, but it's hard to tell from the video.)
Switching to standard tuning and/or retuning after changing the capo position tends to slow the show down, especially on tv.
sconl 1 year ago
Capo 4 Open G
Standard tuning Taylor no Capo.
12stringsforme 2 years ago
This was not played in open G.
astroboy44x17 2 years ago
On closer examination, Richards is indeed Capo 7. So he was playing standard?
12stringsforme 2 years ago
12stringsforme:
Yeah, it looks like G cuz of the Capo, but as someone else here also noted, its capo'ed because its some really harsh, crazy riffing off of just a 7th fret, standard "B" chord. If you do a search on YouTube some good versions come up but they go down just as fast due to copyright. A Youtuber named "MyFavoriteVideoClip" has a great tutorial on it.
Limber up though !! ha ha ha ha
Peace out, my friend !
astroboy44x17 2 years ago
I have a really good Guitar Pro arrangement with open G 4 capo, but the file is somehow corrupt and won't open in GP for Mac. It does work for Windows but I don't have the Windows GP anymore. Grrrr.
12stringsforme 2 years ago
There are no arrangements for this song in open tunings. It's a blues shuffle totally written in and for standard tuning. Keith would never try to play this in some open tuning.
sakalan 2 years ago
Yes, he's playing standard, capoed at 7th.
pekoe67 2 years ago
eh what? Midnight rambler has never been played in any open tunings. Most of their songs are played in standard tuning. Some were recorded in Open D, others Open G. He didnt use different guitars for all songs in 1973 not more so than other years but they may have had more songs played with open G tuning in 1972 and 1973 than in 1969.
sakalan 2 years ago
With all respect-the beatles never R&R. The glimmer twins,CANT be beat---- Never
MetalheadRob77 3 years ago 3
The Glimmer Twins AND MICK TAYLOR!
He's was just as important back in the
70's as he was what made them not just good but GREAT LIVE!! - MLC
mcddtlc 2 years ago 3
ooohwah, the ol'beeyatles could rock !!! Whenever they wanted to.
To twist the old line...... When does an 800 pound gorilla rock?
Whenever HE wants to, whenever HE wants!
hdfatboy2k 2 years ago
while Mick Jaggar was the greatest front man in the greatest Rock and roll band to ever take the stage
there are NO lifes thast are insignificant
slompappy 3 years ago 2
Love Mick's harmonica playing...hey Francis, much as the Beatles are great, the Stones win, hands down, they'll always be my favorite... this is absolutely unbelievable!
Izzielotzafunnies 3 years ago 2
the downfall of my life is.. i wanted to be mick jagger...but there will be only one "mick jagger" and thats 'mick jagger'.. me..a lost soul who lived a rather insignificant life. invisible to the world.
skitzyLION 3 years ago
I'm not into Mick Jagger but you hit it on the head with "a lost soul who lived a rather insignificant life. invisible to the world." It sucks, doesn't it? Makes you wanna write a song about it.
engelbe 3 years ago
I wouldn't worry about it, skitzy. I don't think it would be all that fun to be Jagger.
Exilemainstreet 3 years ago
Really?
kingofthedeep 2 years ago
Ik moet zeggen dat er betere films van Midnight Rambler op you tube staan. Ik mis hier iets. Ik mis hier veel. Ze hebben hun avond niet of hun juiste hoeveelheid...
Kijk eens naar Stones in the park, het spat daar van af.
FransPannekeet 3 years ago
In Hyde Park klonken ze vals en ze waren niet compleet ingespeeld op elkaar. Heeeeeeeeeeeeeel wat anders dan hier. Maar goed... ;-)
DiamondDogZ 2 years ago
that jam in the last 5 minuts is fking mood altering and mind blowin
elieattie 3 years ago 3
Dear God!
Did he REALLY say "go down on me, baby. Go down on me, baby" at 6:12?!?!?!?
It's getting awfully hot in here....
redwoodrebelgirl 3 years ago 2
Hahahahaha I used to intentionally play this part for my girlfriend years back.
keef186 3 years ago
@keef186
You could play this to old women all day long. They wouldn´t take their cue.
stercoraniste333 1 year ago
@redwoodrebelgirl Girl yes...
Squarepeg 1 year ago
SWEEEEEET!
I love those videos that show Jagger-flesh! What a yummy tummy!
I just wish that Keith would have shown some skin, too!
This is a great video! Love it!
redwoodrebelgirl 3 years ago
did you hear ?
jaggerhasabigsti 3 years ago
I wish I had my u-matic VCR still. Seeing the timecode makes me miss it.
rrogerover 3 years ago
JAGGER IS THE BEST FRONT MAN..EVER !
deletethepussyofhism 3 years ago 11
pitty about his singing (joking ofcourse)
bastardtubeuser 3 years ago
Does it get any better then this????
JUNSKI517 3 years ago 4
great performance of jagger..good times.
frommybody 3 years ago 2
I've been searching for the last 35 years,and I can't find a better version of this song then the one on "Get Yer Ya Yas out"...They NEVER play the last 1:30 of this song like they do on that Live album..I've had bootleg albums back in the 1970's from all over the world,and they just don't play it like that..It's a great solo
rangerdgd1 3 years ago 6
I agree with Rangerdgd1.
I have posted before that the midnight rambler version of get yer ya ya's out is one of the best live recordings ever. Alle other versions I heard (about 15) are inferior.
gerardusch 3 years ago
There's some pretty amazing bootleg version of MR...July 11, 1975 from LA is incredible!
keef186 3 years ago
'cos GYYYO has some studio overdubs :o
stickysfingers 3 years ago
the only overdubs r vocals
aripahs 3 years ago
I agree. I also think that the JJF version and Satisfaction version from the film Gimme Shelter are also the best they've ever done of those songs.
jamal49 2 years ago
yeah man, the satisfaction in that movie is so killer. i wish it was on ya ya's. and the jumpin jack has an awesome solo, that the one on ya ya's does not.
rolledgold77 2 years ago
wow..one of greatest..
soundshunter 3 years ago
nice version
would have liked to see the camera more on the guitars though
elderfan 3 years ago
excellent merci
reineroro 3 years ago 4
Great Song but i think the 1972 stp tour version is the best. Mick is on fucking fire during the song. just as he start's he take's a big sip of JD and the Rock's it for 9min's.The band also rock's as well it's the Stones man.
73gac 3 years ago 5
Charlie Watts on drums.
keef186 3 years ago
Mike à l'harmonica ... Vaouuuuuuuu!! C'est bon
reineroro 3 years ago 4
awesome...there´s a time I search this video here..you get before me...thanks !
naovoulembrarmeuuser 3 years ago 3