cymatics .. theres some great films about it online. Basically what you are doing but they use much better mediums for it and it would be interesting to see results using the same materials used in cymatics
@bearpatch626 use bismuth flakes or powder and try it i guess. but im not sure if bismuth would retain its same characteristics. but its always worth a test or two.
what abought if u wanted to make a ufo flying disc forget the power source use a giant rodin coil and get alot of neo magnets melt them keep them hot and create a cylinder rap the coil around the cylinder basicly use melted magnets inside a rrodin coil get the coil hot enough to keep the magnet melted inside then the magnet liquid will rotate around the coil and it will levitate this is my theory but i got no time to test it let me know what u think
THE FERROFLUID GOES INSIDE THE DONUT. NOT IN THE MIDDLE, NOT ON THE OUTSIDE. IT GOES (inside) the tube that is the donut. Does no one understand this? The WHOLE point of this rodins coil is to create a gravity engine. One you get the fluid moving fast enough it will start making it's own gravity.. then the real science begins.
try place the ferrofluid in a toroid like doghnut made from aluminium or somth and reinforce the outer shell as it will be huge centripetal forces on the outer edges that can break it off and it should levitate according to alien scientist info on how UFO's fly
Think the capacitance and inductance is creating a time delays. The current will be uneven around the coil. Placing capacitors to neutral, tapped at various intervals may verify. 1uf metal film may work.
As I remember the TR-3B put the Ferrofluid INSIDE the Rodin Coil - which then accelerated much more? Also, to make their thermobottle I think they counterwound a 2nd Rodin in the opposite direction in phase sequence? This speed compressed the fluid so it no longer touched the bottle walls - thus eliminating friction. Result was about 70% less mass grav-pull with a 3' diameter Coil size.
Fill the in side of the plastic doughnut with the ferrofluid make sure there are it is all fill no free space inside the doughnut the ferrofluid will spin faster and faster and the disk should start to float in mid air you've just created i like to call it antigravity because of the magnetic field you outer shell will disintegrate once it starts going to fast this is the limits of my research. hope that helps with yours =)
YOUR FIRST MISTAKE was not putting the ferro fluid inside that white tube the coil is wrapped around...yeah that sounds like a fucking video i wanna see....DO IT!!!!!!!
have u ever tried combining a rodin coil and a star. having the star be in the middle. just an idea but ive seen people playing music with the coils and magnets. if u use enough ferro fluid i bet u could see the magnetic sound waves. instead of using magnets use extremely magnetic ferro fluid. i think this would be a real cool experiment and hey u might discover a new way to make hd speakers. tell me what u think.
@lightdanmo I have only been focusing on transformer tech for the last year trying to advance that so to speak, I haven't tried combining the 2 but may be a worthy try. Vivenano.com has 100 grams of 6nm iron powder for 500 dollars with surfactant in place all you have to do is add water, I plan on trying to get some so that we can make ferrofluid with more iron particles that what is commercially available. but not till end of spring on that one.
@mavendex Sounds like you are spending alot for Plasma Fluid? Know that FLAT SCREEN TV's contain very advanced MAGNETIC PLASMA FLUID - with millions of neo-mag nano-flakes to convey pixel light stimulation. Since many are now THROWING OUT their TV's as part of World Revolution (& some break down from circuit defects); you should be able to get some (or 1 at least) FREE! May increase rotation alot?
@NwoDispatcher: The reason ferro fluid is so unique is because the oil is BONDED to the iron oxide through a surfactant. This means that when u place a strong magnetic field near the ferro fluid the iron oxide wont separate at all from the oil because their are bonded together.
@NwoDispatcher: The oil isn't directly bonded to the iron oxide. A surfactant bonds the 2 together. and each iron oxide is bonded to multiple surfactants/oils
have u tried with a starship coil. from what ive seen they seem to be stronger then the rodin, but u would not be able to fill the core with ferro fluid seing as there is no core. tell me what u think?
@lightdanmo star ship coils seem to be more powerful, it all depends on what you mean by that, I'm taking all the questions in and having my previous coils shipped back for a series on what would be the best route, I have a star ship I have built, now with the same amount of wire as a standard Rodin coil you will get more of the spikes but.. the rotational energy doesn't exist. If that makes any sense. the reason for that is parallel pairs.
Cool experiments man! What kind of frequency do you input into the Rodin coil? I had a success with 180 degree phase shift for A/B coils input. Magnets started to spin @ ~10 Hz. Yeah, vertex based math coils are interesting!
This is a great video; I was wondering if the ferrofluid brings down the amp draw at all. I noticed that when I put a bolt in the center of my coil,my rotor spins faster and the amp draw decreases. thanks for the info!
I would imagine the frequency chosen influences the shape and size of the spikes in the ferro fluid. My theory is that once the frequency is high enough, the speed of light will determine a resonance point that will appear as a spike that is orders of magnitude higher than what is shown.
It could be in the Ghz rnage, or even higher... but it would depend on the size of the coil.
I've been wanting someone to do this experiment for a long time now with a Rodin style coil, very nice demo man, thank you for posting this. The ribbon part on the perimeter of the ferrofluid pool reminds me of standing waves in a cymatics demonstration. What type of current are you using for this demo? You mentioned it being 12v, but if this is DC, that would be really interesting. I'd also be interested in seeing of AC, or vice versa from what you're using here. Anyway, keep it up ; )
@mavendex So that's house current @60hz? Sorry I'm a novice at this stuff but my studies of Tesla prompt me to consider frequency as an important factor. Excellent work man, really. The ferro-fluid shows the exquisite symmetry of the design. Nice!
@chungsan1 I would look up Teslas Fueless Generator and that would be the closest representation that would be the baby bear coil, Baby bear is strong but very weak compared to Goliath and other coils I have built, just by useing the rodin geometry twist up 2 wires and fill up your torus, thats it.
If you were to put this ferrofluid inside a smaller diameter tube - would the electos push it upward/create pressure?
mahnarch 1 week ago
@mahnarch no it just gets real hot, and melts the donut.. get your butt to nebraska I have much to show you!
mavendex 1 week ago
Could you tell me what you used for the core, I've been trying to find a a larger core, but I'm not sure where to go to get one?
DeepRootsFilms 3 weeks ago
what happens if u touch it with ur finger!
lmonto 3 weeks ago
@lmonto I was going to ask this very question! But, I would probably use a latex glove.
mahnarch 1 week ago
@lmonto I would like to know this, as well.
mahnarch 6 days ago
@myself Apparently, I already said this... :p
mahnarch 6 days ago
what is it used for!
lmonto 3 weeks ago
okay im not a nerd but what is the point of making this liquid and how is it useful to you!
lmonto 3 weeks ago
has someone stopped allowing comments or something?
jdogsful 1 month ago
@jdogsful Being that you're commenting should answer that. :)
mahnarch 1 week ago
technology is amazing. and so are physics
jdogsful 1 month ago
technology is amazing
jdogsful 1 month ago
what did you use for a dounut and have you tryed putting the ferro+fluid inside the dounut instead of in the center?
crafter2u 2 months ago
Nice experiment! Connect the power source to a varying frequency, maybe 100-10Khz.
macmen007 2 months ago
Did you try stiring it?
2ndSTARMAN 3 months ago
Good video get a tripod......
Itcus1 3 months ago
what happens when you put them both together with an water cooled,
and jump the power to the top end of the coil wire, or use denser wire, ?
Hope4uall 4 months ago
was wondering about the rodin coil bear ( winding design, how many feet of wire, number of windings )
rodincoilresearch 6 months ago
Thanks for this, very interesting. I also like srdickens idea of changing the frequency just to make it look better! Who needs lava lamps?
thompsonbruv 7 months ago
Are you the camera operator from the jason bourne monies?
Trollfacer 7 months ago
wont the twisted pair cancel the magnetism??
stdavross666 7 months ago
What's the orange colour in the center of the fluid at @1:49 ??
houtm035 7 months ago
So
No difference between a "rodin coil" and a normal coil ?
Yep
chibraxial 7 months ago
cymatics .. theres some great films about it online. Basically what you are doing but they use much better mediums for it and it would be interesting to see results using the same materials used in cymatics
CarlTremura 8 months ago
@bearpatch626 use bismuth flakes or powder and try it i guess. but im not sure if bismuth would retain its same characteristics. but its always worth a test or two.
lightdanmo 9 months ago
If you put the ferromagnetic fluid inside the actual torus would it accelerate around it due to the rotational magnetic field being created?
AlecWangable 10 months ago
have you tried pulsing the coil with a function generator and seeing the effect on the ferro fluid? maybe there is a special sweet spot frequency
K4DesignStudio 10 months ago
what abought if u wanted to make a ufo flying disc forget the power source use a giant rodin coil and get alot of neo magnets melt them keep them hot and create a cylinder rap the coil around the cylinder basicly use melted magnets inside a rrodin coil get the coil hot enough to keep the magnet melted inside then the magnet liquid will rotate around the coil and it will levitate this is my theory but i got no time to test it let me know what u think
TheSaltysack 10 months ago
THE FERROFLUID GOES INSIDE THE DONUT. NOT IN THE MIDDLE, NOT ON THE OUTSIDE. IT GOES (inside) the tube that is the donut. Does no one understand this? The WHOLE point of this rodins coil is to create a gravity engine. One you get the fluid moving fast enough it will start making it's own gravity.. then the real science begins.
Spxder 10 months ago
try place the ferrofluid in a toroid like doghnut made from aluminium or somth and reinforce the outer shell as it will be huge centripetal forces on the outer edges that can break it off and it should levitate according to alien scientist info on how UFO's fly
sorinfreerun 11 months ago
You seriously need a tripod
Clayjrjr2 11 months ago
Nice video.
Think the capacitance and inductance is creating a time delays. The current will be uneven around the coil. Placing capacitors to neutral, tapped at various intervals may verify. 1uf metal film may work.
massriver 11 months ago
As I remember the TR-3B put the Ferrofluid INSIDE the Rodin Coil - which then accelerated much more? Also, to make their thermobottle I think they counterwound a 2nd Rodin in the opposite direction in phase sequence? This speed compressed the fluid so it no longer touched the bottle walls - thus eliminating friction. Result was about 70% less mass grav-pull with a 3' diameter Coil size.
PhotonDrive 1 year ago
I've never heard of this "Rodin Coil" can some one please educate me?
Thanks
HOODYWOODRECORDS 1 year ago
@HOODYWOODRECORDS youtube. com/watch?v=K93dL65Q72 4 try watching it :)
testinis 1 year ago
Fill the in side of the plastic doughnut with the ferrofluid make sure there are it is all fill no free space inside the doughnut the ferrofluid will spin faster and faster and the disk should start to float in mid air you've just created i like to call it antigravity because of the magnetic field you outer shell will disintegrate once it starts going to fast this is the limits of my research. hope that helps with yours =)
monkeyfarman 1 year ago
maybe aliens used us to mine are own planet of its gold and used it for their conductive wire on the space crafts they have
TheMaleman666 1 year ago
have you made a driver circuit that pulses the coil in the proper sequence and tested with the fluid yet?
blaargenheimer 1 year ago
YOUR FIRST MISTAKE was not putting the ferro fluid inside that white tube the coil is wrapped around...yeah that sounds like a fucking video i wanna see....DO IT!!!!!!!
G0neguy 1 year ago
Do you see it? There.. there is a G-spot right there.
1pcLufi 1 year ago
could you try putting a neodom magent under neath the ferro fluid?
bluepacman13 1 year ago
have u ever tried combining a rodin coil and a star. having the star be in the middle. just an idea but ive seen people playing music with the coils and magnets. if u use enough ferro fluid i bet u could see the magnetic sound waves. instead of using magnets use extremely magnetic ferro fluid. i think this would be a real cool experiment and hey u might discover a new way to make hd speakers. tell me what u think.
lightdanmo 1 year ago
@lightdanmo I have only been focusing on transformer tech for the last year trying to advance that so to speak, I haven't tried combining the 2 but may be a worthy try. Vivenano.com has 100 grams of 6nm iron powder for 500 dollars with surfactant in place all you have to do is add water, I plan on trying to get some so that we can make ferrofluid with more iron particles that what is commercially available. but not till end of spring on that one.
mavendex 1 year ago
@mavendex Sounds like you are spending alot for Plasma Fluid? Know that FLAT SCREEN TV's contain very advanced MAGNETIC PLASMA FLUID - with millions of neo-mag nano-flakes to convey pixel light stimulation. Since many are now THROWING OUT their TV's as part of World Revolution (& some break down from circuit defects); you should be able to get some (or 1 at least) FREE! May increase rotation alot?
PhotonDrive 1 year ago 2
@mavendex could ferrofluid be made with rust?
NwoDispatcher 5 months ago
@NwoDispatcher: Yeah but it won't be as good because there really isn't a surfactant that bonds the oil to the iron oxide.
JasonW7467 2 months ago
@JasonW7467 maybe you could suspend the oxide in an emulsion.... hmmm... Just sayin, its easier to come by rust than powdered iron.
NwoDispatcher 2 months ago
@NwoDispatcher: The reason ferro fluid is so unique is because the oil is BONDED to the iron oxide through a surfactant. This means that when u place a strong magnetic field near the ferro fluid the iron oxide wont separate at all from the oil because their are bonded together.
JasonW7467 2 months ago
@JasonW7467 Iron Oxide and oil, would that be a covalent bond? or weak interactions? emulsions allow polar solutions to mix with non-polar.
NwoDispatcher 2 months ago
@NwoDispatcher: The oil isn't directly bonded to the iron oxide. A surfactant bonds the 2 together. and each iron oxide is bonded to multiple surfactants/oils
JasonW7467 2 months ago
@JasonW7467 Dont these guys use powdered iron(not oxidized) and thus nonpolar?
just sayin, surfactants create emulsions. secure wikimedia org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Emulsion
much love
NwoDispatcher 2 months ago
@NwoDispatcher: just go on youtube and watch "Ferrofluid: How it works (by michael Flynn)
JasonW7467 2 months ago
@mavendex For 500 clams I can fly out to your local muni.
If you pick me up I won't have to rent the farmers' tractor into town! :)
mahnarch 1 week ago
@mahnarch ill pick you up, got a nice room for you to stay in as well
mavendex 1 week ago
@mavendex Does this room contain ladies of the... oriental persuasion.. that will satisfy my every need? :P
mahnarch 6 days ago
@lightdanmo could you mix ferro with bismuth ?
bearpatch626 9 months ago
have u tried with a starship coil. from what ive seen they seem to be stronger then the rodin, but u would not be able to fill the core with ferro fluid seing as there is no core. tell me what u think?
lightdanmo 1 year ago
@lightdanmo star ship coils seem to be more powerful, it all depends on what you mean by that, I'm taking all the questions in and having my previous coils shipped back for a series on what would be the best route, I have a star ship I have built, now with the same amount of wire as a standard Rodin coil you will get more of the spikes but.. the rotational energy doesn't exist. If that makes any sense. the reason for that is parallel pairs.
mavendex 1 year ago
What if you put it UNDER the coil???
Have you put a bowl that cover the whole coil with some ferrofluid?
And what happens if you turn it upside down to shiftpoles? Which one is this, north or south?
Did you counted the number of outer and inner spikes? I couldn't by the video.
Where can I find the specification to build one too?
Sorry for so many questions, but I really want to know more about it!!!
Thanks for sharing!
guifercon 1 year ago
@guifercon
I just saw a video that shows (on iphone compass) that the orientation NS of the coil/Earth does matter.
Sorry, one more question, what if you spin the bowl???
xD
tks
guifercon 1 year ago
good job keep up the experiments bro
JacobH420 1 year ago
Cool experiments man! What kind of frequency do you input into the Rodin coil? I had a success with 180 degree phase shift for A/B coils input. Magnets started to spin @ ~10 Hz. Yeah, vertex based math coils are interesting!
oxiigen 1 year ago
It doesn't make sense that a Neosphere in the center spins rapidly but this doesnt. both items are ferrous.
TheUFOeffect 1 year ago
You should use mercury and see what happens
hooptejoe 1 year ago
This is a great video; I was wondering if the ferrofluid brings down the amp draw at all. I noticed that when I put a bolt in the center of my coil,my rotor spins faster and the amp draw decreases. thanks for the info!
RomeoDLN1 1 year ago
I would imagine the frequency chosen influences the shape and size of the spikes in the ferro fluid. My theory is that once the frequency is high enough, the speed of light will determine a resonance point that will appear as a spike that is orders of magnitude higher than what is shown.
It could be in the Ghz rnage, or even higher... but it would depend on the size of the coil.
larryseyer 1 year ago
thank you for doing this.
cuplex 1 year ago
I've been wanting someone to do this experiment for a long time now with a Rodin style coil, very nice demo man, thank you for posting this. The ribbon part on the perimeter of the ferrofluid pool reminds me of standing waves in a cymatics demonstration. What type of current are you using for this demo? You mentioned it being 12v, but if this is DC, that would be really interesting. I'd also be interested in seeing of AC, or vice versa from what you're using here. Anyway, keep it up ; )
Khepramancer 1 year ago
@Khepramancer Im just useing wall power AC so 120 volts at around 14 amps to get that effect.
Working on setting up another Demo Showing a more powerfull coil dressed in Tinned copper wire vs. Normal Magwire
mavendex 1 year ago
@mavendex So that's house current @60hz? Sorry I'm a novice at this stuff but my studies of Tesla prompt me to consider frequency as an important factor. Excellent work man, really. The ferro-fluid shows the exquisite symmetry of the design. Nice!
BenZeneProject 1 year ago
Good work David! Love to get some of that fluid! Keep it up! Thanks for sharing ~ Russ
rwg42985 1 year ago
Would you show us how to make the coil ? Thanks.
chungsan1 1 year ago
@chungsan1 I would look up Teslas Fueless Generator and that would be the closest representation that would be the baby bear coil, Baby bear is strong but very weak compared to Goliath and other coils I have built, just by useing the rodin geometry twist up 2 wires and fill up your torus, thats it.
mavendex 1 year ago