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  • Ludwig Van Beethoven is better than Mozart. Who is Mozart? A tempered man, that had a hint of talent. This man right here is what the world should envy, not Ke$ha or Dragonette. Thumbs up if you agree that this is the truth, and what you want.

  • I love this scene and am delighted to find a decent clip posted here. My father used to play this on the piano late at night.

  • Ludwig Van Beethoven was more than abused, but suffered from Asthma, a severe Ear Condition which lead to deafening, and was too talented to have them all. This movie didn't show that, it showed his love life, which was not his greatest suffer. I loved this movie, (it was my favourite) but it didn't show how he was a true hero.

  • @Naomi7Rachelle Encouraging to know we have a same interest.

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  • i love gary oldman!!! MMMMMM!!! ;)

  • I can play it..

  • As a pianist I can not stand when period movies use a modern pianos. This piano is most likely a Steinway built after 1970.

  • what movie is this?

  • @DeepDeity Immortal beloved, just like the title of the video says.

  • @bummer6 what's it about?

  • music is pathetique in the begin

  • nothing to tell ... 

  • The first piece is the first movement of Sonata no.8 (pathetique) by Beethoven...

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  • This is very powerful scene. The whole movie is powerful.

  • Gut-wrenching scene.

  • 3:03 i get chills EVERY TIME. such a beautiful movie, how powerful he was!

  • IS THE MOST AMAZING SCENE, EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE...........

  • Eh, its the pathetique 1st mvt in the start

  • Yes it is Gary Oldman who is playing the piano for real!

  • Type PRIZE before youtube and hit enter

  • Type PRIZE before youtube and hit enter

  • Played a little too fast, but nice.

  • @Bbarfo best online version = wilhelm kempff... such passion and honesty, you can see it on his face

  • @Bbarfo Actually many musicologists believe beethoven wanted it played a little faster.

  • swimming would help you grow taller ?

  • i adore this movie, gary oldman is a great actor, and the movie does follow the myth.

  • being deaf is what makes him a legend

  • @infidel94 No! Ludwig Von Beethoven deaf or not was a genius

  • @infidel94 That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. He showed true genius even before going deaf. Do some research, or better yet, have your own hearing checked.

  • @MsAppassionata i meant even more legend

  • @infidel94 Well, I still maintain that he would still be remembered as a genius regardless of whether or not he went deaf. Yes, his talent is even more appreciated because he was able to persevere against almost insurmountable odds, but he was recognized as a genius by all of Vienna even before that.

  • This is the only great part in the movie, apart from Oldman, the actors are really weak!

  • @fazekaslaszlo I disagree. I thought that the acting was quite good by all concerned, but to each their own. As Gary Oldman is one of my favorite actors of all time, I certainly won't disagree with you there. I happened to like the film, though there are a number of factual inaccuracies. The same can be said, however, about Amadeus.

  • lol i was like "dont u touch him! leave him be!"

  • I luv this seen, great film!!

  • @secretlovechild87 *scene :P

  • a great emmotional scene. Beethoven felt decieved and felt more betrayed than anger. He wore his heart on his sleeve. God bless the man and his music.

  • Love this scene....

    Ludwig in english is Louis, AND MY NAME IS LOUIS!!!!

    Though my ears work fine and my piano skills are....awful :)

  • A little detail I picked up from the craft of the movie:

    How he shut the lid of the piano and lied his head on it.

    It adds so much more character, passion and emotion to the role, emphasising Beethoven's genius spirit and add the calm atmosphere to the sonata.

    But at the same time, hiding the Actor's hand!

    Clever one.

  • @falling0331 gary oldman is a competent pianist actually

  • this is my favourite scene of the film.

    I understand why he reacted like that though; that piece is so deeply personal and it was dedicated to giulietta gucciardi.

  • i do understand the way Ludwig must of felt, being tricked into revealing you're secrets or a piece work you're not ready to share, I would of acted and fled the same way...

  • The tempo seems too fast. Still, my favorite scene of the film.

  • Oh could ssome one please upload the whole movie, i would be forever greatful, this movie looks so good...

  • Beautiful. One of the most touching scenes...

  • Beethoven was not only going deaf from age 27 - he suffered from loud tinnitus - ringing and whistling - night and day that drove him nuts at times. He said the only thing that kept him from suicide was his devotion to making music (for us) and he was morally against suicide. His weakness became his strength. I suffer from tinnitus after a tooth extraction - and I draw inspiration from Beethoven's perseverence, life and work.

  • @blumenthol His father used to box his ears what do you expect?

  • Crushing

  • At the beginning was the pathetique.

  • It is Gary Oldman...and beethoven. I would expect nothing less than perfection

  • Gary Oldman: genius. This scene: unforgettable.

    "It is terrible! Terrible to rob me in this way of my most treasured feelings."

  • Gary Oldman: genius. This scene: unforgettable.

  • Beethoven's music transcends mere words, even the ordinary emotions. It is the work of a genius and this interpretation (film) enables us to understand in some small degree, this tortured man, who gave this world so much beauty and depth and substance.

  • Immortal beloved....

  • If anyone saw Trans-Siberian Orchestra earlier this year performing their "Beethoven's Last Night" album on tour, it included clips from this movie.

  • @mus1cat That must have been wonderful to see and hear. This is one of my favorite films. There are no words for the beauty of what is revealed here.

  • Relaischat, that is no lisp in her voice. Her name is Valeria Golino, and she was born and raised in Naples, Italy. That is her Italian accent you are hearing.

  • please give me the notes of the second chord he did, before he started playing 14th(probably for someone with perfect pitch), i dont know why, but it sounds fantastic, and i want to play with it :D

  • Gary Oldman is a genius, and here he is playing one of the greatest geniuses the world will ever see.

  • Why the fuck does she have to have a lisp. I bet she is an american actress. They always go for this realia crap. Why don't thye just go to rada and LEARN how to act.

  • typical woman xD (bad timing)

  • They say that when he was deaf and still wrote music people asked him how dose he do that , to wich he replied 'God is screaming in my mind while whispering in others' .

  • I can play this song! i love the pathetique sonata its my favourite

  • Absolute perfection

  • A  convincing Beethoven.

    Gary Oldman is a chamaleon actor,

    One of my favourites :)

  • @Ruchfun

    He's my absolute favorite :)

  • beethoven was going to study with mozart but beethoven mother got sick so he never did

  • Best part in the whole movie!

  • i am so mad she interrupted him! :(

  • @flyyala08 She's a BEE OTCH, that ruined the scene

  • Yesteryda in m college music class my teacher uses Beethoven symphony in A major opening and plugs it on the piano to make fun of the melody to show how Mozart was a better composer than Beethoven, but that is taking it out of context, if you listne to symphony 7 in A major the way Beethoven wrote it meaning the whole symphony and not just the piano you will hear genius, a genius who was ahead of his time, he wasn't only concerned about melody, it was the entire piece that mattered!!!

  • Your teacher is terrible.

  • Why do people attempt to prove one was better than the other when they both are exceptional geniuses and there's no point in comparing them this way?

    Still, Mozart's influence on Beethoven is enormous. For details, consult the wikipage, "Mozart and Beethoven".

  • @michellewonderwoman: You can't be serious... there is no way that anyone of today can fucking make fun of Beethoven! Our tiny musical brains are nothing to his! That faggot should not be a music teacher!!!

  • hm....i remembered it a bit slower...this sure went fast.

  • @Sayurie88, This is the correct tempo.

  • I can't begin to comprehend what it must have been like for him. God truly knew what he was doing when he created Beethoven. Hundreds of years later we are still Marveled by his Genius. I'm sure back then he was Under appreciated and taken for granted. It is only after his Death that his Legacy is Lives on.

  • @perpetual61 He was considered absoteuly underapreciated. .He was from a lower middle class family and was as genius a businessman as an artists.He raised hinself beyond his societal position, and with such artistry. A total genius.

  • gary oldman <3 thanks a lot

  • oh my goodness, Libby56, that's so beautiful and sad at the same time. I still want to cry

  • and this song is my fav one of beethoven's..

    my father took me to vienna to both he and mozart's concert when i was 5 and that was the best most important time of my life. for one i feel in love with music, and my father passed away a few weeks after.. so hearing this piece for me, hard to describle by words.. even i've been listening it over and over again for almost 20 years now.. it keeps my father alive in me.

  • @Libby56 Thats very sad :( But its good that you have that great memory of your father :) ...He will always be alive in you :)

  • SO SAD!!!!!!!!

    WANT 2 CRY.

  • Who is the music interpreter of this sonata, I mean, the actual recording? Is a very good version. I would like to know the name of the pianist, in case you know.

  • Murray Perahia is the one who played it....you can find info by googling immortal beloved soundtrack:)

  • @kingnosferatu1 Was Oldman actually playing when they filmed this, and then they dubbed Periah's playing over it? You can see Oldman's hands moving on the keys in the right sequence of movements, however, you can't actually see his fingers pressing on them. 

  • @sdsures acording to the trivia section of imdb, oldman practice piano for months so that his hand would be in sinch but the actual playing was from Murray Perahia

  • @kingnosferatu1 You mean there is a place on the Interwebs where people can ask questions and look things up and find answers instead of posting those questions on YouTube? Why...that's incredible! :)

  • @dharmaista Artur Rubenstein's interpretation is amazing. I fell in love with Beethoven through R.'s playing. Sample it on Amazon.

  • @dharmaista

    I was told that Gary Oldman did quite a bit of the performing in the movie, as he is a classically trained pianist, but I could be wrong (and they did probably have another professional do the soundtrack).

  • @dharmaista I'm glad someone else thinks so. I learned this when I was 12 and hated the way it's traditionally played. Whoever plays this version is amazing.

  • is this love story true?

  • just part of the movie.Ed Harris' Beethoven is much more realistic.

  • Beethoven! Ich Liebe Dich.....Das Beste....

  • He was losing his hearing. A nightmare for any musician, one would imagine. Especially one as gifted as he.

  • KINGNOSFERATU1,thanks for sharing,i'm sorry about your cheating girlfriend,perhap you divide your time unevenly between the two,she and your piano,perhap you might be a great musician like luigi,but as a lover,you might be quite the opposite,don't let the next in line slipped away,balance mate balance ;)))

  • What is the cause of his hearing lost,he was abused by his father as a child,maybe his father beat him in the head so often that it fractured his ear drums,perhaps high fever or some other ailment.A musical genius with a hearing lost,if i was in his place i don't know if i could bare it,music is my oxygen.

  • I believe it was genetic . . . amazing how he managed to write his most amazing music stone deaf.  The pain of a girlfriend cheating I'm not sure is comparable to a composer losing hearing.

  • this scene makes me cry too. one of my favorite pieces. i'm learning it on the piano.

  • That's sheer poetry!

  • my favorite, scene..

  • keep playing bugsmom.....God bless you

  • thanks

  • a magnificent movie, that used his music.

  • i always cry at this scene, it reminds me that i have to do the same when i play. i am nearing beethoven's deafness.

  • ohhh sniff

  • but you should still play...and enjoy what you do...

  • i do. ive found that even though i cant hear it out loud, i can still hear it through the look on other peoples faces.

  • i'd rather be blind then deaf. i couldn't stand not having my hearing. my dad and i talk about that all the time. i'm so sorry. just keep playing. i bet you are a great musician and all that you will continue to play will come from your heart.

  • thank you. (my sights not all that great i wear contacts lol). piano wasnt my instrument to begin with and im certainly no beethoven but i guess im getting better.

  • i love beethoven's work..but sadly i've never seen this movie b4..i've got 2 see this movie..but i love this seen tho..

  • So SAD. :'(

  • very good

  • This is my favorite scene amongst all ever movie scenes.

  • Una escena magistral....

  • this is the best part of all movie..It's simply beautiful

  • Seconded.

  • Thirded.

  • The scene where he slowly rests his head on the piano top while playing I find very touching... it's as if he has come to terms with his hearing loss and just wants to at least feel his music, if not hear it.

  • Beautiful, isn't it?

  • love the way he introduces the piece...

  • I think his violent reaction startled her as well,the first time i saw the movie i practically jumped out of my seat,because my ears was tune to the music being played by ludgwig,i was expecting him to just turn his head slowly to the side of his shoulder and look at her hand on his shoulder,but that didn't happened,when ludwig sprung up from his seat,i was like Whao dude !! scared the fck out of me ;))

  • Some people can have a heart attack if you sneak up from behind and touch their shoulder,when they are completely unaware of your present,their state of mind are somewhere else..

  • The man went deaf,he couldn't hear her sneaking up from behind,it's like the hand of a ghost or a grim reaper reaching out to grab your shoulder,when you couldn't hear it's even more frightful,i think he can still hear the music in his mind,eventhough his hearing had failed him,history greatest musical genius ever lived had a hearing problem,that god in heaven got a sick sick sense of humor mate ;)

  • If theres is a god, its cruel.

    But theres is no god.

  • he is the god of music; with mozart

  • here's my thing, why did she come out of the fn wall in the first place? i mean, yes she was overpowered by emotion, but at least her dad should have stayed behind the wall if not both of them. a little control please?

  • i totally agree with you...

  • @bugsmomwithjktaylor it does make the film interesting. gives it a twist

  • @bugsmomwithjktaylor What sort of emotionless robot would not come out of the wall after listening to pure creation? Had I had her money and wealth, and had been in love with the person, and had witnessed such creation; I would have touched him at that moment. Who wouldn't want to touch GOD.

  • Absolutely Beautiful.

  • he is god of music after bach

  • When I watched this video clip, I was expecting to be compelled by the drama, moved by the romance, astounded by Gary Oldman's powerhouse performance. Yet, all I kept thinking was...

    "Wasn't she in Hot Shots?"

  • yes, Valeria Golino was in "hot shot"

  • his name was Ludwig and not Luigi ffs

  • Yes but it´s like say: Daniel or Dany

  • i know what his name is, ludwig van beethoven, and i put luigi cause thats what the madame called him usually it is a "nickname"

  • @kingnosferatu1

    Luigi or Ludovico is the Italian form of Ludwig... and Countess Guicciardi was Italian though her family's estates were in Austria. Louis, Luis, Luigi, Ludwig are all the same name in different languages.

  • "It is terrible, terrible for you to rob me in this way of my most treasured feelings"

    I have 2338 movies, and this is my favourte moviequote..

  • I have always respected Beethoven...but never been a huge fan of his music. That is...until I saw this movie and this scene in particular. It is the most moving scene in the film and Gary Oldman is superb in the role of Beethoven. People who bicker about the tempo - come on - can't you just forget about the technicalities and enjoy the scene for what it is?.....a brilliant scene - which will haunt me forever.

  • ageed on the tempo but come on, amazing way to place that piece in the film. powerful. this scene has always made this movie for me.

  • I PREFER this version BECAUSE ITS slightly faster...

  • love it, just love it.

    love it all, the whole movie, the great actor and ofcourse the music.

  • Love the scene.

    This scene made the film I think. Everyone was expecting "Moonlight" sonata in the film and what a way to make it's entrance.

  • A phenominal actor, a musical genious and an exquisit song. What an amazing combination.

  • "musician are as close to God as men can ever be.we heard His voice,we read His lips...."

  • one of the best sceens.

  • OMG, how beautiful!! Gary is SO amazing (I don't think there are any words to describe how brilliant he is, so I guess that'll have to do!!!) My favourite composer and actor merged....now that's art!

  • so beautiful! beethoven was famous for being an asshole and yet he composed ode to joy when he was deaf! his humanity burst forth with his music! He was a genius completely in touch with the human condition. im jealous, harumph!!

  • One of the best scenes of all movies ever!!!

  • one of the best sceens.

  • Gary Oldman is always great... in any role he is playing...

    GARY WE LOVE YOU!

  • This scene leaves me breathless everytime I see it.

  • This is one of my favorite movies. I love Immortal Beloved! What a romance and Gary Oldman is Great in this movie. I have the movie and soundtrack. Big fan of Beethoven.

  • one of my favourite scenes, but ode to joy at the end was good too

  • Watch or listen to some1 playing it is awesome but theres nothing like play it urself! try to feel what he felt is hard thats why every1 argue about it....but u end playing it how u feel

  • i agree AlchemistRequiem, you are right about playing a piece for yourself, i play moonlight sonata all the time, but i play it differently regarding wot mood im in

  • "must it be?" "yes, it must be"

  • brilliant movie, fantastic scene

  • Thank You All For The Comments.....

  • Sin duda una de las escenas con mas sentimiento de toda la pelicula.

  • The incredible longing and passion of this piece is as strong now as when it was first written ..... Utterly beautiful.

  • that's my favorite of all beethoven's works, It's brilliant. Gary oldman did a wonderful job in this film as well.

  • i love beethoven,and gary oldman is a great actor, in dracula of bram stoker too. tanks for the clip, it was wonderful. i`m from spain, sorry my inglis it`s not very good looking.

  • no hay problema, yo tambien hablo español=)

  • that was heart wrenching. that was the first time i ever actually cried during that piece.

  • its a very sentimental part of the movie, it gets me nostalgic

  • can you post the movie please. i really really want to see it. i tried copying beethoven but i didn't like it gary oldman is much better.

  • Did she not he was deaf? She loved him but didn't know he was deaf??

    Gotta love this song. It has so much emotion and pain within it.

  • It feels like deep long breaths that made this mood!!!