Re: Hitler Youth At Climategate get schooled by Lord Monckton

[michalslahor]

Spoken truth. These climate bangers are nothing but tools and sheep for the the global elite (so elite even billionaires are loosing money for them). "Climate Change" is nothing more than a hoax and fairy tale designed to control industry and tax the common man for breathing. I was speaking out against this since 2000, back then I was branded a "denier", a horrible person. Fast forward to today 2011. We have the guilty parties and players of the grand larceny of biblical proportion. JAIL THEM!

[atkdawg]

i cant stand this guys additude not what he says so much as how he says it completely off topic felt it needed to be said, anyways....WHAT THE FUCK DOES HITLER HAVE TO DO WITH GLOBAL CLIMATE DESTABILIZATION!!!!!!! i dont know where you were but nobody in there right mind thinks the government is trying to help us it just so happens what benifits them helps us. the rising of global temp throws a monkey wrench into the entire system do some fucking research into the info that FUCKING MATTERS!!!!

[johnnyb34434]

@itallxit2 yes.

[johnnyb34434]

@itallxit2 any time.

[Serge1965]

You are right, unfortunately, people never learn from history, they will mock the older generations and pay a dire price and it could even be too late before this young generation realize that the gestapo is knocking at their doors at 3h00 am to take them out of bed and drag them to a death camp, 1945 can seem far away even for my generation and i am 45 years old but on the fabric of time, that was just yesterday my friend, veterans still have that fresh in their memories, not the youth, sadly

[TheDancingRomeo]

why don't you do something useful with your time..

like get your fat fucking ass off the computer and stop yapping about something you don't know about and go out for a run. you could loose and calorie or two!

or maybe just get a job and keep busy.

[johnnyb34434]

@TheDancingRomeo I really do something useful. I try to educate dumb asses like you.

[Kumosabe]

@johnnyb34434 I don't really consider this useful. But mostly because nobody listens when somebody says 'it's not true'.

[johnnyb34434]

@Kumosabe  are you sure????!

[jacobbengali1]

Johnny, you're completely correct! Cult of personality is exactly what we witness here!

Lord Monckton told it as it is

[johnlalor]

Excellent video, johnnyb34434. Movement get nowhere wasting time with adults. They prey on the young - impressionable, naive, ungrounded. You see it with all the elements of eco-lunacy: children "teaching" parents how to be better people. They genuinely fear home-scholers, cos they cannot reach their minds. These people only FEEL, there's no REASON in them. They are fanatics of secular religions - they hop from one meaning to another, one far left cause to another, always looking for a home. Sad

[MrElectricdude]

retard

[xfossterx]

Fuck him. he is ugly and stupid.

[jacobbengali1]

@xfossterx

and you are a piece of shit

[boboshennando]

Moncton is telling the truth, and those greenpeace sheeps dont get it !

Moncton is a true hero of the people !

[AllesOnderControle]

It is a shame that whenever people tell the truth, there are always people that dont want to believe it. They dont want to find out that what they believed in was a lie. So when they cant fight the arguments that comes with the truth, they attack the messenger and try to discredit him.

Here is the perfect example.

Dont listen to the people that try to do this johnnyb34434!

[ghawk615]

DUMBASS! HISTORY DID NOT REWRITE HIM!

[aussiemick83]

i think you need education in pronunciation :)

[Angerofthenorth]

"History re-wrote Hitler in a very bad way"

Look closely kids. This is what a climate changer denier looks and sounds like.

[93msinclair]

I see you have the very persuasive argument of shooting the messenger

[jada189]

it's very sad to see that you human-induced Climate Change skeptics people are so narrow-minded and cannot realise there's more to the problem than GHG emissions. Hope these points help for making skeptics second guess their opinions.

And i pose one last question to you- How old will you be in 2050?

[jordansupafly]

1st of all! i have given an explanation of how this will destroy more jobs than it creates and secondly, the other stuff about pollution, biodiversity etc that you have talked about, we probably all agree with you (i do on a lot anyway) that it is a problem but you fail 2 distinguish that between global warming that is being shoved down our throats.

2 bunch us all as climate skeptics and people who want 2 destroy nature is a really inhumane thing 2 do.

We just want normal scientific procedure

[jordansupafly]

@jada189 By the way! i will be just as old as you!!

[jada189]

Furthermore, the population is rapidly increasing in Earthquake prone areas, in particular, China, Japan, south-east Asia. We need backup resources in the event of a overwhelming natural catastrophe (I.e Boxing Day Tsunami).

With more harsh natural disasters expected, then, it's obvious to conserve resources to prepare for a disaster.

SPREAD of DISEASE: Diseases such as Malaria and Dengue are spreading to parts of the beyond their ordinary geographical distribution,. Source: G Magazine.

[jada189]

POLLUTION: There has been a rise in the number of cases of respiratory illness in society LOSS OF BIODIVERSITY: Everything in nature is linked in a complex web. Therefore, one system will affect another, to some extent. Human sit towards the top (i.e. higher-order consumer) of the food chain. Therefore, we are very dependent on many organisms (humans can adapt so some extent). Will post another comment...

[jada189]

So, let's disregard CO2 emissions and focus on other environmental issues at the moment PEAK OIL is putting more pressure on our consumption of fossil fuels. We'll eventually have to resort to using renewable energy. POTABLE (DRINKABLE) WATER SHORTAGES: The world's population is still rapidly increasing, thus, placing significant stress on our water supplies.

(Will place the rest of my info in another comment as i have run out of space.)

[jada189]

I am callling for is a transition to renewable energy and a reduction of greenhouse gas emissions. Regardless of wheather global warming is stue this would benifit the economey, there is more jobs in renewables than coal in fact for every person yhat coal would employ to generate the same ammount of energy, there is 2 times as many people in wind SOURCE: Dr Mark Dissendorft UNSW senior researcher said this at a community fourm. Theirfor this would create jobs and improve the economy.

[AxeMan0170]

The climategate emails mentioned Dubbo airport temp readings dated back to the early 60's, the funny thing is that the airport was not open till the 90's ... would you call that curious at the very least?

[jada189]

What dubbo airport as it could have been Dubbo airport, New South Wales, Australia. It was first used for planes in the 1920's.

[AxeMan0170]

@jada189 - that is correct, however meteorological instruments were not installe untill the nineties, as documented in Australian newspapers. Check it.

[jada189]

Their could have been some form of unofficial temperature recording devices of a place nearby where meteorological instruments are used and he location was rounded off to the airport.

[AxeMan0170]

By the way, I am in Australia too, and we have had very hot summers, but do not forget we had our coldest winter as well.

In regards to the fires... how many of them are being lit on purpose? more than you probably care to know, why has the goverment cut down on seasonal backburning?? In canberra we knew of the fires coming in 2003 days before they reached the capital, and the goverment refused to do anything about them before it was too late. Its all fabricated.

[jada189]

Wel all the victiorian bushfired deliberitly lit? No. I don't believe that government has cut down on seasonal backburning at all and i ask for your source of that informnation because in my area i have notices much, much more backburning in precautions to stop a repeat of the victiorian bushfires last year.

[AxeMan0170]

Have a look into who is pushing this lie, and what their incentives are. And why so many good expert scientist in their own climate related fields are being quieted, to put it nicely. Do you realise the real damage it would cause if all these new laws and taxes are put forward? and the real effect on the climate (nil). Lets not be naive and realise the true evil behind this all.

[AxeMan0170]

@jada189, Mate, don't buy into this lie, there are, in the U.S. alone over 30,000 scientists who have signed a document stating human activitie has VERY little influence towards climate change, Its funny how the mainstream media, which is owned by people who can only profit from this lie, does not talk about these scientists. Climategate individuals are being invetigated and (hopefully) these so called scientists will be prosecuted, so its not just a distraction.

[jada189]

And  how many of thoes scientists have published peer review scientific papers?

[AxeMan0170]

@jada189- Quite a few, actually. Have you look into the IPCC... only 2500 scientists, not all of them experts, were used to ratify this report, some of them were not even in favour of it, it is reported that only 12 of them, who actually lead this farce, push for thi, many are afraid that if they come forth and denounce they were never agreeing with the IPCC report their funding would be cut, as it has happened to some. Again, look at both sides of the coin.

[AxeMan0170]

@jada189... and what facts are you thinking of using to debate what has already been proved to be a lie???

[jada189]

That is not true- global warming has not beeen proven to be a lie, what is your source? and how can u prove what i am going to say as a lieas you don't even know what i am going to say?

Firstly do you believe that carbo dioxide and meathane are greenhouse gases and if are in the atmosphere will cause he earth to be warmer. (you can not dispute this as the greenhouse effect is proven and without Co2 earth would be 15c cooler.

[jordansupafly]

15c cooler? Id like to see the sourse of that information!

On the list of greenhouse gases in our atmosphere. At the top is water vapour which accounts for up to 85% of the greenhouse effect and CO2 is accountable for 9-25%(i doubt the credibilty of these figures) of which the part of CO2 which we are accountable for has been estimated by pro global worming sources at less then 1/20th of all CO2 emission and by the opposing side at even a smaller fraction, so this leaves a question

[jordansupafly]

The black body temperature (no greenhouse effect) is 33c cooler. So how does Co2 account for 15C of greenhouse effect (50%) when estimates show a much smaller effect AT BEST, of which i might add that the part we are accountable for is such a small fraction and we are so sure of our influence on climate change when historically this has been an ever occuring phenominon and is a perfectly natural process!

May i also add that over the last 9 years we have had a net global cooling of 0.05C

[jada189]

Firstly, may I please see your source for the net cooling over the past nine years of 0.05c, and what yould the gross temperature be - hotter or colder and by how much?

[AxeMan0170]

@jada189 You keep asking for sources for this or for that, Do your own reasearch with an open mind. The Facts are there, climate change is not caused by human activity, it has always happened, CO2 is not a polutant, it is needefor life and it works as a heat filter, a blanket if you like. Volcanoes, when they erupt produce more CO2 that an entire city in one year... how do you propose we control that??

I agree we have to be resposible and look after our planet, but not by false science.

[jada189]

I do do my own research and when i show people facts i llike to provide the source. You however did not provide the source so ow do i know that that is fact?

[AxeMan0170]

@jada189 You would know what's a fact by RESEARCHING.

[jada189]

i do research, scientific papers, ipcc reports, government policy anything on climate change i read, however as a full time high school student with a demanding tudy timetable i can't possibly read everything.

[jordansupafly]

@jada189 Hi jada! My soure is from the 3 official nasa satellites that record the data (GISS, UAH, RSS). I will send you a few private links if you want to check it out because i cant post it through a comment.

I dont know what the gross temperature should be because 1 i am not an expert and 2 even if i was, climate is near impossible to determine because we dont understand enough abough about it

[jada189]

This (comparing the global youth climate movement to hitlor)is absolute bull we youth are worried about our future and we should be as we are the ones who are going to suffer.

You old liberal men should get out of the way of the youth and let us save our future!!! after all you will be dead by the time we start suffering.

And if any of you wan't to have a debate on hear about climate science then bring it on!

[jordansupafly]

@jada189 The only thing we are suffering from right now is the freezing cold and snow which is closing schools and workplaces!

Im starting to wish global warming was really true!!!!!!

I think it is a fairly accurate comparison (between global youth climate tyrants and the hitler youth). The reason i see it as accurate is because the tactics used to fight the opposition are the same, that instead of democratically engaging in debate and reason they use force of numbers and bullying.

[jada189]

Global Warming causes climate change which will redistribute rainfall causing some places to go into extreme floods and some places to go into extreme droughts. The same is for extreme weather events, some places will suffer extreme snowstorms and some extreme heatwaves. If we do not stop polluting then there will be more snowstorms like the ones you are suffering now.

[jordansupafly]

How do u know that it will cause these things 2 happen?

What is the scientific basis 2 explain why this would happen?

People cant even predict what the weather will be like a week in advance so 2 pretend that this is the result of global warming seems to be a matter of faith!

On the other hand, the argument is not about global warming because that is a natural process which has ocurred 4 billions of years!

The debate is whether it is caused anthropogenically and the evidence 4 that is flimsy

[jada189]

I wish where i am (Australia) we had snowstorms-we are suffering a very, very bad drought and 2009 was our 2nd hottest year ever (2005 the hottest) Our farms are dying and our forests burning! lives are being lost

[jordansupafly]

Im sure there have been many doughts in australia before even before we started driving cars! Your farms are also dying because of policies enacted in the kyoto treaty! Many farmers have been banned from farming which has destroyed their livelyhood without a penny of compensation leaving them without a possibility of generating an income.

All in the name of something which is being proven wrong

[jada189]

Well since european colonisation the drought we have been suffering for around 10 years has been the worst, some Aborigional people say it is the worst the continent of Australia has ever sufferd. Farmers hav not been banned from farming but banned from land clearing, a conservation act to stop deserterfaction, salinification nd habitat loss. However all still have some land to farm on. I don't support not giving them compensation and that was a mistake of the past Howard government.

[AxeMan0170]

@jada189- You mean to say these aboriginal people have been alive since the arrival of the europeans? Even if Australia was turning into a complete desert, which is not, it would not be due to humans, remember that the sahara desert was once a very fertile land...who caused it to change, we were not there.

[jada189]

No i don't mean that because aboriginal people have been in Australia for millions of years, long before europeans have been here, do some basic history research on Australia! you would know whats a fact on Australia by RESEARCHING!

[AxeMan0170]

@jada189- It seems like you are letting your emotions get the better of you. by what you are saying you are not researching, you are only reading that which you have been fed by the system, only what you want to hear. Dig deeper, reasearch what the other side is saying also, be neutral and non-emotional about it. Indeed the future belongs to the youth of today, however if you are not well prepared for what's coming it will be your demise.

[jada189]

I am not letting my emotions getting the better of me and if i were then that could be very understandable baeacue i am a youth whoes future is at stake.

[jada189]

I did research the other side when i found ut about global warming to form my position. If i do have the time to read something on climate change then i usally read peer review scientific papers as i believe these to be the most trusted, and as it goes sceptics don't seem to publish these. Maybee because there is no one who wants to review it as they know it to be wrong.

[jordansupafly]

@jada189 Hi i see you have a nice argument going on about research but can i refresh your memory?

"without Co2 earth would be 15c cooler."-by you

And i asked that i would like to see the source of that information to which you responded with a question on 1 of my posts which i duly gave you!

I have been waiting for you to send the link but im beginning 2 wonder.

It is usually uncourteous not to extend courtesy that i have already given to you.

Could you send me the source please?

[jada189]

May i also add this data:

Temperature Anomaly (degC)

In 1880 it was at -0.3 and in 1940 it was at 0.15 then in 2004 it was at 0.54

SOURCE: NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, Dr James Hansen

[jordansupafly]

@jada189 This does nothing to prove the anthropogenic global warming theory!

Yo make a big jump from 1940 to 2004!

What about 1940 to 1975 when temperature were declining? We were all scared of global cooling!

Or how about the fact that the majority of warming in 20th century ocurred before 1940 when carbon emissions were much lower?

You have failed to provide me a link for my question from before can i remind you!

I never asked for the data above

[jada189]

I made a big jump from 1940 to 2004 as there as a big jump then! sure it goes up and down inbetween (as it went overall down from 1940 to 1975) but the overall trend is that it is going up!

I said i don't have a link for the quetion as i was young then and was not worried about sources. you n

ever aksed for the data however it is relevent.

[jordansupafly]

You did make a big jump and you have no explanation for the changes in these periods, as to why it cools, why it warms, why does it warm then cool and vice versa.

So if you do not have a scientific model to correctly explain these phenomenon then you cannot pretend that it confirms CO2 controls climate or even mildly influence it.

I politely asked to see the data in 1 of your posts which you should check but without verification of data we cannot believe what you say

[Huntingthespy]

Amen Brother!

[websnozzle]

Brilliant exposition.

[hfb17]

totally agree johhny B :)

[matowgc]

What rubbish! Comparing the fact of global warming and the rise of Nazism in Germany before WWII, it's actually quite offensive.

[Shriner66]

No it's not, this climate fraud will end up killing millions in the developing world, it's the same genocide polices that Hitler had.

[Zil2112]

It is funny how you can take offense and think that that somehow gives you some moral superiority. Your heroes in the global change warming climate movement cannot be honest about their goals anymore than Hitler could have risen by saying he wanted to annihilate the Jews. But Wait!! He DID say it!! Just like the Copenhagen draft treaty mentioned the words Global Government.

You are a cockroach akin to those inside the Nazi party; you'll be doing the killing so the killing won't affect you.

[durizap]

The truth served on a silver plate !

[digitalfilmvillage]

It has been mentioned a billion times that Global Warming is hoax to push the cap and trade scam. The globe has been cooling the last ten years. Medieval Warming Period was hotter than today. Global Warming has been debunked by honest scientists such as Dr. Spencer, Dr. Christy, Lindzen, Soon, and many more.

[willma88]

Thankyou! I agree completely! Thankyou for making your views heard! It is encouraging that there are people that are sane out there!

The truth is emerging! Thankyou

[johnnyb34434]

thank you.

[TheGreatAtilla]

Well said sir.

[johnnyb34434]

thanks.

[allieron]

Johnny, get out of your basement, turn off FOX and Alex Jones, and try to STFU until you've got a brain that actually functions and you're capable of not only READING those history books you're so ignorant about, but actually understanding them as well.

If you had a clue, you'd understand just who lord Monckton shills for, and why people like you are clueless tools of a sly dumbing-down that has propagated itself like a virus.

C'mon, Johnny, some fresh air and some exercise will do you good.

[Crazyliberals]

The sad thing for you is that what he is saying about history is exactly correct. Educate yourself for yourself.

[allieron]

It is totally wrong. Just do some simple research before you bother wasting pixels on the Internut next time.

Do any of you kids go to school, or did you even listen when you were there ?

Where is this crushing ignorance coming from ??

A good place for you to start is William Shirer's seminal work "The rise and fall of the third reich".

Don't forget to take regular breaks to eat and sleep while reading it.

Alternatively, a quick Wiki search will remove some of your ignorance.

[Crazyliberals]

I have kids in School and the last thing I want them to learn are lies and propaganda from a bunch of wantabees looking for a cause. History always repeats itself and our youth are being brainwashed by a bunch of money grubbing politicians and "global Scientists" who have found new found wealth in their new industry.

[allieron]

If your kids are in school, then all I can hope is they turn out cleverer than you.

I'd go with the "money-grubbing politicians", although the "other-side" from the "Greenies" are far, far more sinister and "money-grubbing", but the scientists, hah, are you kidding ? When was the last time you saw a rich scientist ?

These people could ALL be rich if they just succumbed to the oil company money and pretended that warming ISN'T happening.

But they don't.

Don't you wonder why that is ?

Think.

[Crazyliberals]

They have jobs because of this industry and as long as it is looked at as a "Global problem" they will benefit financially. What do you think these Scientists will do if and when this theory is debunked?

[allieron]

Please ask your kids to help you with this.

These scientists will always have "jobs" as long as we need to know what is happening to our planet. If AGW is "wrong", which it isn't, it doesn't matter at all to them, they'll still be doing the SAME thing.

Please, don't post again until you have spent some time reading up on Reality at Realclimate, or Grist, or Desmog, or on any of the blogs and sites written BY scientists FOR people like you who don't yet understand what's happening.

Think.

[Crazyliberals]

You hold your opinion and I will hold mine. Once the audit is done on "climategate" we can revisit the "facts" and see how far off you are...or maybe I'm wrong but in the end (if you believe, which I doubt you do) has the utlimate control anyway.

[jada189]

so called climategate was just a distraction to a cricis that is fast hurtling twords us

[KoenigderRatten]

If you want to know how hitler gained control over germany, just look what Obama does.

Obama youth... Homeland security...

As I am a German, my inner alarm just can`t stop ringing.

Resist against NWO Nazi scumbags!

For freedom, democracy and PEACE!

Greetings from germany, your humble RatKing

[aramanx]

Good points on Hitler, but I think the vid is like in half or something

[DCG1018]

I'm not trolling, but I just want to make a quick point about Hitler's rise to power. Hitler first came into German national prominence in 1921, when he was voted leader of the Nazi party 543-1. He didn't start by infiltrating the schools, he was the legitimate leader of a political party. The number of people who voted for the Nazi party went from 800,000 to 6.5 million after Germany's financial collapse in 1930. That number increased to 17 million by 1933. It had nothing to do with schools.

[bobjon38]

I kinda agree with you, but after he came to power in a deal to avoid civil war, his first actions were to take control of the schools, church, press and courts.

[Jgo1704]

DCG1018 Probatly noone can say exatly, how it was this time, and what things are involed, but Facts are, that the Banks helped them all, to set up the War. The Youth just was going to be more and more brainwashed, till they been ready for it. Like today, look around, the Mainstream Media dont tell one f*cking Word about the Scam, around the World.

They are all buyed and controlled, to sproad only misinformations.

[Philhelm]

What's funny is that the videos that the SustainUS Hitler Youth are so proud of, only serve to make them look like fools. Lord Monckton is a hero.

[aramanx]

@Philhelm Amen

[crypter27]

100% truth

[bfpccbm]

Fools and their freedoms are soon parted..........

[johnnyb34434]

aman.

[sirus10]

soon seeing how these kids are under the influence of the illuminati funding the whole thing sad sad sad they have no idea its called one world order sheep its called culling the heard you kids say how come i dont know this do you think the Shepard sharpens his knives in front of the heard lol

[rahimi5]

You uncle fester motherfucker.

[northpal2]

Johnny you know what I find really scary about this whole climate crap ?

The ones like that dumb cow who swallow this bull shit, are the so called educated class.

Thank god the elite are gonna kill off 90% of these sheep or they would be the leaders of tomorrow.

$100,000 Harvard education doesn't include a history book.

[johnnyb34434]

Harvard is a training ground for tomorrow's leaders and sense the government took over student loans they will dicid what they can have concerning education.

[bobjon38]

It does include history books. But the "history" in them has very little to do with what actualy happened.

[fotoshawt]

Another one bites the dust.

These are huge steps for a "international socialistic" type of governance. We all know that the National Socialist party of Germany in the 1930s was better pronounced as for short by calling it the Nazi party of Germany.

[lonchecaliente]

great points... so significant..

thanks for posting..

cheers!