for some reason i doubt that shelby was much faster then the roushe since it was a convertable... also it would lose some ridgedy due to the lack of roof.
The Shelby needs springs, struts/shocks, swaybars. The brakes are pretty big on them already maybe just switch to carbon metallic pads. All that and it becomes a pretty lethal road car. One problem though is I believe the Shelby has a iron block which adds weight to the front.
@rompn4x actually it has an iron 5.4 like I said above in the top comments (old account) So its even heavyer. But my dad owns a roush stage 3 like in this video but ours has a diffrent tune and the supercharger puts out more boost. So ours beats the shelby in the streights and the corners. Ours still has less power but the roush suspension and wide tires give it loads of grip and by the time the shelby is done spinning its wheels on the line the roush in long gone.
when it comes to engines all clarkson knows is displacement numbers and even then hes usually wrong. i remember him saying the f150 lightening has the same 5.4 as the ford gt but in reality they are quite different
Apples to oranges comparison with the Stang and Lotus... I think a Solstice or Sky Redline against the Lotus would be fun. Lotus would probably still beat them in corners.
i sold my 03 SVT Cobra Mustang with 500 rwhp to buy an 08 Exige 240S. Both are amazing cars, but completely different animals. My Mustang came factory equipped with independant rear suspension (the only Mustangs so equipped). It would eat the Lotus up at speed, but cannot compare in cornering, braking or off the line performance. Don't hate lovers of either of these cars, because they both excel in what they were designed to do.
people and their tracks. really. you buy a car, how many times in your lifetime will it ever be on a track? a car is about the driving experience, not a bunch of statistics. they sacrifice the heart and soul of the machine, making it look and sound like a piece of shit all in a desperate effort to pick up a couple tenths of a second here, or a mph or two there. screw it. this isn't a sports car. ppl just don't get muscle.
@creamyfilling102 No i don't there are corners in real life too id rather get 30 mpg and get to 60 faster and have more fun in the corners than have a stupid annoying mustang. Mustangs are the harley's of cars annoying fat slow and useless.
@mitch133666 30 mpg? i'd hate to break it to ya, but if you slap a turbo on a 4 banger, you're not gonna get 30 mpg while running to 60. boosting kills your fuel economy just as bad as having a big V8, while at the same time, putting excessive wear and tear on your engine components.
@creamyfilling102 Yes but when i am not boosting to 60 i am getting 30mpg unlike a stupid mustang. Id rather have a car thats just as fast when it needs to be that can take corners and economical and not a fat turd. Explain why the suspension sucks a fat cock on a mustang.
@mitch133666 so explain to me why the lancer EVO is rated at 23 mpg highway, and impreza WRX at 25, whereas the new mustang V8 is rated at 25. even the old 4.6 "turd" engine got 23. and again with the suspension. mustangs aren't supposed to corner. in every day street driving, you can't whip around corners 90 miles an hour without killing someone or getting a ticket anyway.
@mitch133666 who said anything about 90? i have a blast on freeway on ramps and windy roads. When can you use a v8's full displacement in a straight line on the street without getting a ticket? muscle cars are RETARDED the ones from the early 70's and older are cool. the new ones are stupid all of them but most of all mustangs.
yes,I'm American,and I even have a 58 chevy pickup,but I don't see how people are so stupid in thinking their mustangs are better than anything else.yes you may like them,but nothing with a live rear axle can handle.and I'm sorry but it's true;most American cars over all can't go around a corner.there is a replacement for displacement.it's called lightness.
The all convertable mustang even any convertable cars weigh's alot more then the original hard top version so why the hell would u get a even heaver shelby and race it with a lighter roush at lest make it even with a convertble roush. dont get a track mustang and mix it with a daly driver convertable shelby and say the roush is better even a five year old can see the F,ing difrence just by looking at it
Also to finsh this even Clarkson has sead in top gear he always like the normal hard top better the the convertable version pluse dont hate on ford cuz they didnt put the same suspention like a ferrari they trying to keep there cars afortibe they know if the shelby and mustang gt's cost more then the corvit or the camaro the seals of the cars will go down theres not enof money going around for people to spend 100,grand for a real fast track car the money is just not there.
@sergio4sho1 c'mon affordable? it has a big v8 a v8 is not affordable it gets 8 miles to the gallon try again the point of a v8 is to be fast and make it a performance car it needs to corner
The Mustang vs Lotus comparison always cracks me up. It's painfully obvious the little light lotus is a cornering powerhouse. If anyone claims the Mustang should actually be able to do that, they're delusional. The Mustang simply isn't designed to perform in the same manner.
If I had to drive a thousand miles, I would certainly pick the Ford over the Lotus though.
And no one can say I'm a biased Ford fan... I own a Honda S2000 for fuck sake. ;)
@michaelmike05 i love ford lol and the lotis is better on track the race was on the track we know who would win in a straight line. 190hp and 450... hmm yeah
Even Carroll Shelby has recently said that he probably made a mistake all those years ago by going with high HP in a heavy car. He specifically mentioned that he should have taken the Lotus approach to car design. (Lighter, easier to control cars)
@Designedbythewind Keep in mind dipshit that the Lotus is a helluva lot smaller and lighter than either of the Mustang's. So all in all, this is a piss poor comparison.
Obviously the lotus exige s is not the best UK track car. Take something like the TVR Cerbera or TVR Speed12 to kill a Vette around the track. Anyway, soon enough we'll talk about GM at the past tense. Good riddance.
Haha, GM is still around but I dont' see a lap time for the TVR on the nuernburg ring? Viper acr was 7:22.1, ZR-1 was 7:26.4 Bugatti Veyron was 7:40 and the lotus exige was 8:25
the best track car from the UK should be pitted against the best track car in the US which is infact the vette zo6/zr1... not a roush mustang muscle car... its power pitted against cornering abilities on a cornering track... its a silly race if u ask me and it didnt show me anything i didnt already know...
ohya and might i add that that exige is so awsome... im not a big fan of the color but its still an awsome car
@mmamdouh75 How can you claim to be into cars when you dont know much about Shelby? Its about much more than just numbers son. Educate yourself before making another ignorant comment.
@bigbad1000do7a Muscle car or no Muscle car my friend the video shows that shear brute power is meaningless. It got beat by a 1.8L 30k car. To put a gt500 on the road in England is around 43k and ull definitely need t be upgrading the suspension and safety features otherwise its likely to end up in a field. Tbh its a bad piece of engineering, if a cars not meant to handle the what is its purpose???
@shobin05 How would a Mustang end up in a field on your small tiny ass English roads?
Maybe if you drove around like a twat
Plus you'd be ignorant if you thought this wasn't just another one of Clarkson's shots at America. He usually has nothing good to say about any American car for one reason or another.
It's not like Ford took the live axle from the 60s Mustangs and fitted it onto the new ones. They revamp and improve on the technology. Same thing with the Corvette leaf springs.
@WretchedDrake im from america and the drag strip has been anything since the 60s the 0 to 60 time isn't impressive either an eve or sti can kill one on the dragstrip with minimal modifications mustangs are for making noise just like harleys pointless in every single way just loud and annoying
I find alot that TOPGEAR is heavily biased against maerican cars in general and mustangs in particular. They have a bad habit of misquoting information on the mustangs such as the engine displacement mentioned earlier. And the Shelby has larger brakes as well as reworked suspension as compared to the GT. However the heavier engine throughs off the wieght distrobution even more. Hence why the Roush is so much beter.
i love my roush
95machinehead 3 weeks ago
for some reason i doubt that shelby was much faster then the roushe since it was a convertable... also it would lose some ridgedy due to the lack of roof.
highflyer4 1 month ago
The Shelby needs springs, struts/shocks, swaybars. The brakes are pretty big on them already maybe just switch to carbon metallic pads. All that and it becomes a pretty lethal road car. One problem though is I believe the Shelby has a iron block which adds weight to the front.
rompn4x 2 months ago
@rompn4x actually it has an iron 5.4 like I said above in the top comments (old account) So its even heavyer. But my dad owns a roush stage 3 like in this video but ours has a diffrent tune and the supercharger puts out more boost. So ours beats the shelby in the streights and the corners. Ours still has less power but the roush suspension and wide tires give it loads of grip and by the time the shelby is done spinning its wheels on the line the roush in long gone.
FearLaneProductions 1 week ago
The extra power the gt500 is useless anyways since it can't hook up...
FearLaneProductions 2 months ago
when it comes to engines all clarkson knows is displacement numbers and even then hes usually wrong. i remember him saying the f150 lightening has the same 5.4 as the ford gt but in reality they are quite different
roywhiteo5 3 months ago
stupid fuck 475hp on the shelby wrong.....no wonder I don't watch his show
MrBajapanti305 4 months ago
If I had the Stig behind me I'd be nervous too =(...
SpikeRazzor 5 months ago
This guy is way wrong. The GT 500 has the 5.4 in it. Need a new video anyway to comparemthe 2012 Shelby vs the 2012 Roush Stage3
magicman6583 6 months ago
I'll take the roush over that lotus piece of rubbish...
bullviii 7 months ago
lotus win mustang lose just get over it lol...
MagicH0ly 7 months ago 2
Apples to oranges comparison with the Stang and Lotus... I think a Solstice or Sky Redline against the Lotus would be fun. Lotus would probably still beat them in corners.
rompn4x 8 months ago
i sold my 03 SVT Cobra Mustang with 500 rwhp to buy an 08 Exige 240S. Both are amazing cars, but completely different animals. My Mustang came factory equipped with independant rear suspension (the only Mustangs so equipped). It would eat the Lotus up at speed, but cannot compare in cornering, braking or off the line performance. Don't hate lovers of either of these cars, because they both excel in what they were designed to do.
caprahesk 10 months ago
people and their tracks. really. you buy a car, how many times in your lifetime will it ever be on a track? a car is about the driving experience, not a bunch of statistics. they sacrifice the heart and soul of the machine, making it look and sound like a piece of shit all in a desperate effort to pick up a couple tenths of a second here, or a mph or two there. screw it. this isn't a sports car. ppl just don't get muscle.
creamyfilling102 10 months ago
@creamyfilling102 No i don't there are corners in real life too id rather get 30 mpg and get to 60 faster and have more fun in the corners than have a stupid annoying mustang. Mustangs are the harley's of cars annoying fat slow and useless.
mitch133666 7 months ago
@mitch133666 30 mpg? i'd hate to break it to ya, but if you slap a turbo on a 4 banger, you're not gonna get 30 mpg while running to 60. boosting kills your fuel economy just as bad as having a big V8, while at the same time, putting excessive wear and tear on your engine components.
creamyfilling102 7 months ago
@creamyfilling102 Yes but when i am not boosting to 60 i am getting 30mpg unlike a stupid mustang. Id rather have a car thats just as fast when it needs to be that can take corners and economical and not a fat turd. Explain why the suspension sucks a fat cock on a mustang.
mitch133666 7 months ago
@mitch133666 so explain to me why the lancer EVO is rated at 23 mpg highway, and impreza WRX at 25, whereas the new mustang V8 is rated at 25. even the old 4.6 "turd" engine got 23. and again with the suspension. mustangs aren't supposed to corner. in every day street driving, you can't whip around corners 90 miles an hour without killing someone or getting a ticket anyway.
creamyfilling102 7 months ago
@creamyfilling102 Probably because the Evo and Impreza are 4-wheel-drive, so they have more drive-train losses.
PastafariansWON 6 months ago
@mitch133666 who said anything about 90? i have a blast on freeway on ramps and windy roads. When can you use a v8's full displacement in a straight line on the street without getting a ticket? muscle cars are RETARDED the ones from the early 70's and older are cool. the new ones are stupid all of them but most of all mustangs.
mitch133666 7 months ago
mustangs have been and always will be the most worthless performance automobile money can buy
mitch133666 11 months ago
@mitch133666 lol..
shobin05 11 months ago
@24 seconds
JOYGASIM!!!!!
H00L3y 1 year ago
Roush OWNS ALL
StyleEngineers 1 year ago
what top gear film is this from?
crusaderpat 1 year ago
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Exige versus Mustang? What's next, HUMVEE versus Range Rover?
seriy87 1 year ago
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seriy87 1 year ago
yes,I'm American,and I even have a 58 chevy pickup,but I don't see how people are so stupid in thinking their mustangs are better than anything else.yes you may like them,but nothing with a live rear axle can handle.and I'm sorry but it's true;most American cars over all can't go around a corner.there is a replacement for displacement.it's called lightness.
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The all convertable mustang even any convertable cars weigh's alot more then the original hard top version so why the hell would u get a even heaver shelby and race it with a lighter roush at lest make it even with a convertble roush. dont get a track mustang and mix it with a daly driver convertable shelby and say the roush is better even a five year old can see the F,ing difrence just by looking at it
sergio4sho1 1 year ago
Also to finsh this even Clarkson has sead in top gear he always like the normal hard top better the the convertable version pluse dont hate on ford cuz they didnt put the same suspention like a ferrari they trying to keep there cars afortibe they know if the shelby and mustang gt's cost more then the corvit or the camaro the seals of the cars will go down theres not enof money going around for people to spend 100,grand for a real fast track car the money is just not there.
sergio4sho1 1 year ago
@sergio4sho1 agreed.
JameZCody 1 year ago
@JameZCody i second that.
xnickbox 1 year ago
@sergio4sho1 c'mon affordable? it has a big v8 a v8 is not affordable it gets 8 miles to the gallon try again the point of a v8 is to be fast and make it a performance car it needs to corner
mitch133666 11 months ago
lol any Chevy fans out there
cowboys5592 1 year ago
@cowboys5592 I am a fan of both chevy and ford..... but mostly i am a koenigsegg fan lol
YummyTacoz909 1 year ago
How long is Obama allowing Government Motors to make the Camaro?
Mustangs have outlived the Camaro, were there before the Camaro and will be there longer.
zzremington 1 year ago
The Mustang vs Lotus comparison always cracks me up. It's painfully obvious the little light lotus is a cornering powerhouse. If anyone claims the Mustang should actually be able to do that, they're delusional. The Mustang simply isn't designed to perform in the same manner.
If I had to drive a thousand miles, I would certainly pick the Ford over the Lotus though.
And no one can say I'm a biased Ford fan... I own a Honda S2000 for fuck sake. ;)
otakujhp 2 years ago 4
Right they should do a test on a drag race lest see if the Lotus comes in first place..
michaelmike05 2 years ago
@michaelmike05 i love ford lol and the lotis is better on track the race was on the track we know who would win in a straight line. 190hp and 450... hmm yeah
xtreme3484 1 year ago
@otakujhp ill thumbs up you because ur an s2000 owner lol
eapMedia 1 year ago
Even Carroll Shelby has recently said that he probably made a mistake all those years ago by going with high HP in a heavy car. He specifically mentioned that he should have taken the Lotus approach to car design. (Lighter, easier to control cars)
TheBodhissatva 2 years ago
I love the mustang, but really, I would have been upset if The Stig had lost haha.
mynameisjadin 2 years ago
the Shelby GT500 has a 5.4L .. not a 4.6L, fail
MrEasternRider 2 years ago
@MrEasternRider even more fail
coteya 2 years ago
Mustang shit,Lotus wins!
Designedbythewind 2 years ago
@Designedbythewind Keep in mind dipshit that the Lotus is a helluva lot smaller and lighter than either of the Mustang's. So all in all, this is a piss poor comparison.
CBRuRedE 2 years ago
the 2010 shelby gt500 is better it has 540 hp and they say it has just as good handling as a zr1
freggie505 2 years ago
it shows that muscle isnt everything.
skyline777 2 years ago 4
When it first came out, I thought the Exige was ugly, but it's grown on me. Same with the Bugatti Veyron
NobleM15fan 2 years ago
Obviously the lotus exige s is not the best UK track car. Take something like the TVR Cerbera or TVR Speed12 to kill a Vette around the track. Anyway, soon enough we'll talk about GM at the past tense. Good riddance.
yanicklarin 2 years ago
Haha, GM is still around but I dont' see a lap time for the TVR on the nuernburg ring? Viper acr was 7:22.1, ZR-1 was 7:26.4 Bugatti Veyron was 7:40 and the lotus exige was 8:25
Chopin742 2 years ago
but your comparing it to really good cars
what you did was take a mustang v6 and raced a geo metro lmao but put a mustang gt it would look about the same
rickg156 2 years ago
Who did that? American top gear? That would be really weird if they did that.
Chopin742 2 years ago
no i was just giving a funny example that would be funny as hell to see that though
rickg156 2 years ago
the best track car from the UK should be pitted against the best track car in the US which is infact the vette zo6/zr1... not a roush mustang muscle car... its power pitted against cornering abilities on a cornering track... its a silly race if u ask me and it didnt show me anything i didnt already know...
ohya and might i add that that exige is so awsome... im not a big fan of the color but its still an awsome car
RobbyRaiAshtray1122 2 years ago 5
gt500 is a muscle car, not a track machine. he needs to learn the difference.
bigbad1000do7a 2 years ago 16
@bigbad1000do7a cars are suppose to turn also. modern age means modern muscle.
shabadababa 1 year ago
@bigbad1000do7a if it is not good on a track then whats the point of it?
mmamdouh75 1 year ago
@mmamdouh75 You dont know much about shelby do you?
bigbad1000do7a 1 year ago
@bigbad1000do7a
not much really but basically shouldn't a performance car perform well on a track?
mmamdouh75 1 year ago
@mmamdouh75 How can you claim to be into cars when you dont know much about Shelby? Its about much more than just numbers son. Educate yourself before making another ignorant comment.
bigbad1000do7a 1 year ago
@bigbad1000do7a well... i was seeking such education from you but with such attitude you seem to resemble your favorite car... 100% USELESS
mmamdouh75 1 year ago 2
@bigbad1000do7a Muscle car or no Muscle car my friend the video shows that shear brute power is meaningless. It got beat by a 1.8L 30k car. To put a gt500 on the road in England is around 43k and ull definitely need t be upgrading the suspension and safety features otherwise its likely to end up in a field. Tbh its a bad piece of engineering, if a cars not meant to handle the what is its purpose???
StMuRpHy88 11 months ago
@StMuRpHy88 Its purpose is American roads and dragstrip, my friend.
Our cars are made for us, not you.
WretchedDrake 11 months ago
@WretchedDrake Funny, then why is it sold in other countries?
"dont matter if u win by an inch or by a mile, winnings winning" coming from a man from the same country...
shobin05 11 months ago
@shobin05 How would a Mustang end up in a field on your small tiny ass English roads?
Maybe if you drove around like a twat
Plus you'd be ignorant if you thought this wasn't just another one of Clarkson's shots at America. He usually has nothing good to say about any American car for one reason or another.
It's not like Ford took the live axle from the 60s Mustangs and fitted it onto the new ones. They revamp and improve on the technology. Same thing with the Corvette leaf springs.
WretchedDrake 11 months ago
@WretchedDrake im from america and the drag strip has been anything since the 60s the 0 to 60 time isn't impressive either an eve or sti can kill one on the dragstrip with minimal modifications mustangs are for making noise just like harleys pointless in every single way just loud and annoying
mitch133666 11 months ago
@bigbad1000do7a then what is it good for making a lot of noise? its a big heavy gas hogging slow turd
mitch133666 11 months ago
@bigbad1000do7a Mustangs are pony cars bro, learn the difference...
SpikeRazzor 5 months ago
I find alot that TOPGEAR is heavily biased against maerican cars in general and mustangs in particular. They have a bad habit of misquoting information on the mustangs such as the engine displacement mentioned earlier. And the Shelby has larger brakes as well as reworked suspension as compared to the GT. However the heavier engine throughs off the wieght distrobution even more. Hence why the Roush is so much beter.
UnhealthyStateofMind 3 years ago 3
this guys wrong the shelby has a 5.4 lieter supercharged engine
camgoalie 3 years ago 14
@camgoalie Jeremy Clarkson does not know facts.
Some say he thinks that facts are a form of excrement. :P
beepandbop 1 year ago
@camgoalie who cares its worthless its 0 to 60 time isn't even that impressive and thats the only thing its good for
mitch133666 11 months ago