Supermarket chains were made responsible for selling drinks in thin, non-reusable plastic bottles or cans. So a pawn was imposed on them and the markets had to buy machines that can read the codes on the containers, crush them after it and giving the customers a receipt that he can exchange for money at the cashiers. All this is done so that we may not drown in plastic garbage one day.
It was the fact that the dumps in our country were growing quickly and the fear was that one day we would be sitting on a huge heap of plastic garbage that made the lawmaker come with a system in cooperation with the manufacturers and supermarkets that made it possible to collect valuable material such as plastics and metal seperate from the rest of your waste.
Some - like milk cartons- is burned in high temperature furnaces, metal goes back to industry and plastic and glass get molten down.
Especially breweries and soft drinks manufacturers are the owners of their high quality bottles so the pawn is an incitements for giving them back. That means they do not go into the containers!!
Coca-Cola company has their own bottles in Germany too for their products and you get the money back when you take the empty bottles back into the supermarket.
The bottles and jars that go into the containers are of course crushed and molten down.
Oh no you dropped the wrong bottles into the recycling container, the beer bottles have 8 €-cent refund on them. The Tea, and water? bottle have 15 cent refund on them
We dispose our wine bottles and other glasses there.
most glass and plastic bottles (25 cent refund), also cans (25 cent refund) are brought back to the store ^_^
The 15ct pawn annoys a lot of people but the good thing about it is, that even the poorest try to make a living by searching the waste for bottles. Its no beautiful sight because it makes you realize, how many poor people are around but its a win win situation. Those get a few euros to at least buy them food or so and the rate of recycled plastic is quite high.
Guy, I tell YOU a secret, recycling is one of the things that help our industry and society. What's wrong with saving money and resources or creating an industry that provides so many jobs? Btw. social and socialistic are two different things.
You forgot the bottle deposit on plastic bottles and cans. Being in Germany I always wonder why other countries don't see this solution to massive amounts of rubbish along roads, in woods, or in their own backyards...
Also we love to seperate waste. Every german has a small wastehill in his backyard, and in our free time we seperate tin foil from plastic there for example. This is considered to be fun in germany.
If you don't do this you will get pilloried and people are allowed to throw recycled apples at you...
i think the girl didn't get the German system. The bottles that are thrown into the bin are not directly reused. We melt them to produce new bottles. The beer bottles, the girl holds are given back by the consumers in a store and get refilled afterwards.... :D
The beerbottles in the supermarket are deposit bottles you give back to he place you bought them at. This is the old system.Older than any recycling idea. The bottles (or jars) you throw into a recycling container are being melted up for sure. I have never seen a recycling container that was cushioned to not break the bottle. The industry wants that glas broken.
Actually you have to pay a pawn for the beer bottles you`ve shown. You have to take them to the supermarket to get your money back, then they will be cleaned, refilled etc. The containers are for pawn free bottles wich will be melted. The Rubber in those containers is for noise reduction and wont protect the bottles from breakage.
@andrij66 Your comments show that you are just too lazy for recycling. In Germany we recycle also with a lot of fun paper, plastic and organic waste. So be aware of us!
The things you showed at the beginning are that ones to melt the glass and to produce new bottles (german english: to recycle)
The reused bottles are from the machines in the shops where you get money back. The machines in the shops sort between re-use (glass and plastic) and recycle (the bottles are crashed directly in the machine). There are reusable plasticbottles too, they are stronger than the other plastic bottles.
You find many videos about recycle or revenging machine...
Question if silicon & aluminum are among the most abundant resources... why are we recycling it? last time I checked, there are various ways of melting things, & which ever way you melt something you still have to create heat. This recycling stuff is all nonesense, aluminum is everywhere!!!!!
@andrij66 Disregarding any arguments about the abundance of elements... The reason we recycle is to save the energy and dirtiness that accompany any serious mining activities. You already have purely concentrated aluminum in the recyclable cans, so why would you spend so much effort to dig it out of the ground? Face it man, recycling is smart =]
@miln40 Face what? I've melted Aluminum (1220*F), I haven't done glass because it is much higher (2192*F) There are alot of people that was out there cans & stuff before recycling, when melting something to 1220*F food & labels are burned of or become slag. The people that wash are wasting water on a process that doesn't need to be done, time is wasted collecting & money. It's irrefutable, if it's so concentrated, there would be a factory at the dumpsite. Recycling is stupid.
@andrij66 What you fail to mention is the fact of how much water and heat is wasted when you process basic rock to extract the Al in it. Then you need MUCH more resources to obtain it than by just recycling. Besides, aluminum is mined in open pit mining, which is pretty dirty. Factories do not need to be next to dumpsites, since recyclable material does not go to dump sites, but directly to the factories!
@miln40 Dirty? If you had any construction experience you’d know how excavation & construction machines work. It’s obvious you are small minded & talk about things you really know nothing about. Let’s try one more time, if recycling was really worth it, companies would be competing to pick up your trash, for the recyclables in it.
@andrij66 Umm... 'Scuse me, but they actually do. In many cities in Germany several garbage collection companies are competing for our trash. And according to the latest numbers 48% of German trash gets recycled. That wouldn't happen if it was as uneconomical as you think. Depositing all trash on dumps would be seen as almost criminally wasteful over here.
@andrij66 That’s a bunch of baloney, modern techniques hammer it into a powder, & direct inject it. Then when the metal separates it becomes more than just aluminum, you get alloys of zinc, copper & many others metals. Heat wasted? Dude, did you even read the temperature settings? This isn’t finding efficiency in baking a single cake. 1200+*F is really, really hot. Insulation & efficency is in a companies interest.
Well i for one am glad there is no deposit fee for buying glass. i buy glass everything because i don't like the chems plastic leaches . I reuse them or throw them into the blue bin WM then recycles . Now when I was in a apartment I threw away a ton because recycling was not offered . Apartments are the biggest offenders .
Germans do a great job in recycling glass but I think this video is a little misleading. Glass that goes into the recycle bins is used in glass making and is not washed and refilled. However, when you buy many bottled products in Germany you pay a hefty deposit fee that is refunded when you bring the bottles back to the store or may be traded for filled bottles for the cost of the product alone. The returned bottles are washed and refilled.
@ChristopherJManess I agree with you 100%. We USED to do this here, in the U.S.
I'm 62, and as a child, I used to pick up glass soda and beer bottles on the side of the road and return them for the deposit that was paid on their purchase. I also worked @ a Coca Cola bottling plant, and sorted and washed bottles for refill.
Too bad our society is too lazy, disinterested, and short-sighted to reflect on the past.
@turkthagorqas It's ridiculous how advanced many countries are in comparison to the United States, that has geared up to profit the few and squander the many like cattle, with a flagrant disregard for humanity, respect and decency.
Doing a little research on waste management in Germany. Did you know they landfilled less than 1% of their waste in 2008.
They pay a deposit of Euro .25c for each bottle (between .1 and 3 litre) and get that back when it is returned. Not what they are showing in this vid though (?)
Doing a little research on waste management in Germany. Did you know they landfilled less than 1% of their waste in 2008.
They pay a deposit of Euro .25c for each bottle (between .1 and 3 litre) and get that back when it is returned. Not what they are showing in this vid though (?)
@savetheearthorg I like your video, but what you say is not quit right. First of all the bottles you throw in these containers aren't used again, like attk177 says. Second the bottles you showed at the store are so called deposit bottles, you didn't throw them in these containers, you can give them back in every store and get a deposit for them (8 cent). The 3 bottles you throw in the containers, @0:43 where deposit bottles.
@attk177 don't call bullshit,today you pay deposit for every bottle and if you return the bottle the any supermarket they return the deposit you've payed!
@JumpingCookie95 that doesnt count for all bottles though. whine bottles, vegetables jars and stuff gets recycled. what you mean are plastic bottles, cans, waterbottles, beerbottles....
This is a retarded comment. Obviously they do not melt the bottles. If they did, there would be no wear marks. Broken bottles are melted and re-blown into new bottles, however glasses of different color are not mixed.
look at the comment below attk177's comment. you will only find wear marks on bottles you payed a pawn for. the containers are for pawn free bottles so thats why you would never find wear marks on these type of bottles, cause they get melted-
@momrey obviously you have no fucking clue, because not one bottle that gets thrown away will ever pass the quality check to just use it again. little parts break away and make it dangerous.
every new bottle consists out of 60% recycled glas! the wear marks are because they run through 3 big industries - productioning - filling at brewery - export to stores
@attk177 u are right that a bottle that was dumped in these containers shown in the videos doesnt get reused (they recycle the glass, not the bottle), but the bottles in the store ARE reused. if you buy beer in germany (>95% is sold in glassbottles i would guess) you pay 8ct pawn for the bottle and you can return them to any store that sells the same kind of bottles.
these brown bottles are somehow standardized and even the smallest brewery uses them. while big companys have own designs
So... the Germans are burning gas to save glass? This is environmentally destructive. Think about it. You're spending valuable non-renewable resources to save something (silicon) that is close to useless - and spewing carbon in the atmosphere in the process. A little research on the economics might change your views on this practice.
Didn't you realise how much more energy it needs to produce new glass all the time? Besides this we reuse glass without burning it. Your comment is illogical.
We even separate plasic, metal, domestic appliances and other rubbish to recycle it and to save resources.
Germany is world champion in recycling and and energy saving.
USA still got caught in the stone age when it comes to this.
@Lintflas Nein. Sie haben leider falsch gelesen. I wrote: "Germans are burning gas [gasoline/petroleum] to save glass." My comment isn't illogical. The illogic in recycling comes in attempting to remove it from economic reality. Prices and scarcity determine the viability of recycling. Government recycling is an insane system because it attempts to suspend economic laws through subsidy and forced labor. (Es tut mir aber Leid.)
@Lintflas Nein. Sie haben leider falsch gelesen. I wrote: "Germans are burning gas [gasoline/petroleum] to save glass." My comment isn't illogical. The illogic in recycling comes in attempting to remove it from economic reality. Prices and scarcity determine the viability of recycling. Government recycling is an insane system because it attempts to suspend economic laws through subsidy and forced labor. You're living in an illusion (Es tut mir aber Leid.)
It isn't removed from economic realitiy and the recycling is done by private corporations, and of course it costs more gas to produce new glass instead of using old glass, and that' why your comment is wrong.
@Lintflas Then it's just forced labor by the government for the sake of a corporation. That's arguably worse. If it's true that recyclables have value, then companies would pay us to collect them (or at least not charge). If the things have no value - and landfill space became too scarce - recycling might be cost effective. But it's not likely Prices and property determine the value ecosystem, not the government. The energy requirements of recycling glass v. production isn't the whole picture.
It's forced by the government because we have the strongest act for the protection of nature and to save energy. Because of this we are the cleanest and greenest industrial nation on the planet. This is not about economy, it's about nature.
And yet this philosphy has made us world champion in solar and wind energy, in recycling and energy saving houses, and our economy even benefits from this, because the green industry has created millions of new jobs.
@Lintflas You're living in a dreamworld. It doesn't make you cleaner. And diverting resources from more productive uses to less productive uses is not sustainable. It's wasteful. You're living in a Malthusian dreamworld.
In fact we are cleaner and greener, and if you compare the areas of high population density between Germany and the USA, the USA looks like an energy and resources wasting cormorant.
Even your president Obama confirms this, and that's why he's right to push the green energy industry forward in the USA.
Just ask those 40.000.000 Americans who need daily food stamps to get something to eat, and talk back to me later. In fact the overall living standard of the USA is far below the german standard. I travelled the USA several times, so I know what I'm talking about.
There are even vast areas in the USA looking like a third world country, and some of the larger cities look like a rubbish dump compared to Germany.
@Lintflas Germans on average make 3/4 what an average American makes -- Consider Berlin (where this film was made) -- more than 30% unemployed. There are far more people in Germany that are able to work that do not -- look up the stats.
When I lived in Berlin, in Wedding and Shoeneburg, you could not convince me that Berliners are richer than Americans. Clearly you are from Bonn, or some other city if you forget the eastern part of your country. Go to Jena and talk!
Berlin doesn't represent the whole nation, and 30% is wrong. It is 13,5%.
In fact unemployment (latest data 9/31) in Germany has sunken to the lowest rate since the german reunification, and the trend goes on. The crisis did not really harm our economy and the order situation looks very good.
@Lintflas It is hard to harm an economy with such high unemployment. You clearly don't understand your own statistics.
You claim that you have seen places in the US that prove third world status AND you claim that places I have seen in Germany are not representative. I think you have contradicted yourself.
How many people in Germany do you think are receiving support from the state, BTW? As a percentage, 40,000 of 300,000,000 is less than Germany, a country the size of Montana.
Didn't you read my last comment? Google the facts if you don't believe me. Of course I understand the statistics. Your arguments are wrong, and I didn't say those places represent the whole USA.
@Lintflas Thank you. I accept your apology for implying that the US is like a third world country. I agree, that was absurd. It equals the absurdity of your statistics. I have lived in Berlin, you can fudge the numbers and try to get the number lower, but please include the people that are on permanent social insurance before you come back with that weak sauce "google it" crap.
@Lintflas It would be really easy to drop the unemployment to 0% in the US if we had the type of social insurance in Germany, the problem is that GDP would fall by 30%
Or take a look at your horrible health care system. Search for "Lou Dobbs on Healthcare in Germany" to see the facts. He compares the retarded US system witth the german system.
@Lintflas I should apologize, I am having fun with you. Meine Frau ist Deutcher aus Koeln. I love Germans, I just know enough economics to know that if you have to subsidize something for it to exist then it wastes resources. This is a lesson that is learned in the first semester of economics. You can believe your religion as long as you want, that is what happens in a free society. However, sooner or later your will realize that it is nothing more than a fantasy.
Yep, and I love America and I have some wonderful friends there. Of course your philosophy isn't wrong at all. It's just different, but that's not the german or european way.
Did you know that Germany is almost able to supply itself completely with renewable energy? It just takes another 6-10 years and we can turn off all atomic plants and coal power stations. This is not a fantasy, it's a forward-thinking solution.
It's completely irrelevant if Dobbs is an authority or not. He just compared the proven facts, and they make your system look a mess.
Of course Ted Kennedy didn't go to Germany, because he had enough money to afford the medical treatment in the USA. Ordinary american families have to sell their house to afford it.
@Lintflas Nein. Sie haben leider falsch gelesen. I wrote: "Germans are burning gas [gasoline/petroleum] to save glass." My comment isn't illogical. The illogic in recycling comes in attempting to remove it from economic reality. Prices and scarcity determine the viability of recycling. Government recycling is an insane system because it attempts to suspend economic laws through subsidy and forced labor. You're living in an illusion (Es tut mir aber Leid.)
@Lintflas Let me see if I understand this -- 1) bottles are washed and reused. If that is the case then the energy used in collecting, washing, and transporting can be compared to the energy used to take sand and make new bottles. We also have to account for the rental price for the hole in the ground broken bottles are put in. 2) bottles are crushed into sand -- this option means that rather than buy sand you manufacture sand, clearly a more costly process which uses more resources.
Do you really believe that we do recycling just for fun? Of course it save a hundred times more energy to wash bottles and reuse them, instead of producing new ones. There's a bottle deposit of 25 cent on every bottle and every can. This keeps our country tidy, and you get back your money when you bring the bottle to your next supermarket. This system works great for decades and no one complains about it.
@Lintflas I don't think recycling is fun. It is a sick twisted post-modern religion which admits no evidence that it is wrong. Germans were crazy in the dark ages and have not learned much since then. Adam Smith helped transform the Enlightenment thought of the Italians and French into something that Launched Commercial and Industrial society while the Germans were still blaming everything on foreigners living amongst themselves. Get with the 18th century!
You just screwed yourself. Dream on the US dream of endless debts. Let's meet again in 10 years and you'll see who survived. You Americans are completely retarded when it comes to forward-thinking in environment protection.
Germany is world leader in solar/ wind energy and recycling and even your proven wrong comments won't change our "craziness"
@Lintflas I think your English is a bit bad. I don't follow the first sentence. Being the world leader in solar energy is just like being 3rd place in Soccer, cute, nice, and totally useless.
Did it ever strike you that you are winning a game that no one else is playing?
@Lintflas I think your English is a bit bad. I don't follow the first sentence. Being the world leader in solar energy is just like being 3rd place in Soccer, cute, nice, and totally useless.
Did it ever strike you that you are winning a game that no one else is playing?
Cool! Every place is a little different. I would use recycled bottles as long as they're disinfected. I just don't want someone putting a gun to my head and forcing me (or you) to recycle. There is nothing wrong with volentary conservation.
Recycling glass doesn't save the environment at all. One has to build separate bins, transport separately (more CO2), and separate further at the recycling plant, then one has to reheat the glass to melt it just as you have to do to make glass in the first place. Basically it replaces collecting new sand with collecting old bottles, no difference.
In Sweden we have recycled bottles since mid 50s. Its at 330ml bottle in flint/green and brown and you can buy it in all stores. Its very popular in resturants... The year wich the bottle was made can you see on the bottle, its not rare that you still find bottles wha are made in the 60s/70s
I used to work for Miller Brewing: They used to gather their returned bottles and reuse, but people would put cigarette butts, limes, other objects that couldn't be removed by machine, so they started using new bottles even though it increased costs.
That´s one of the few things I´m proud of thinking about my country: The germans do really care about the environment, especially when it comes to waste. We supply african warlords with weapons but at least we dont fuck up our our planet.
yes so that's why coca cola bottles used to have those marks, in Mexico we used to reuse all glass bottles, and then PET bottles took over... at least we've got glass bottles back again on supermarkets... so we can choose...
I have never seen anything like this before. I even wrote a thesis on recycling in college and I never knew that any program existed where they actually RE-USE the same bottles and put them back on the shelf.
Effective program. In the USA I think people would have a hard time getting over the fact that the same bottles had been used before.
@sebamed79 Our glass is sent to British Glass at Alloa, Scotland for melting down and re forming, after colour seperation, so the hygiene issue would not apply nor would the smell idea. The process involves temperatures of 2000 degrees.
yes, there are two kinds of bottles "einweg"(means one-way) and "mehrweg"(multi-way).
the "einweg"-bottles you have put in the container and it will melted down to produce new bottles. the "mehrweg"-bottles you have to bring back to the supermarktet, you get some money back and these bottles will send back to the breweries, coca cola or whatever. the bottles get cleaned ect and filled with new beer, cola ect.
Die juten Pfandflaschen...
onkelflori 8 hours ago
i want to rape her
ezekeil6ft2 1 day ago
she did throw returnable bottles in that container. poor people are glad they found some and she throws them in the trash. I'm not okay with this.
UnterschichtenBernd 1 day ago
Supermarket chains were made responsible for selling drinks in thin, non-reusable plastic bottles or cans. So a pawn was imposed on them and the markets had to buy machines that can read the codes on the containers, crush them after it and giving the customers a receipt that he can exchange for money at the cashiers. All this is done so that we may not drown in plastic garbage one day.
Jeansschwimmer 6 days ago
It was the fact that the dumps in our country were growing quickly and the fear was that one day we would be sitting on a huge heap of plastic garbage that made the lawmaker come with a system in cooperation with the manufacturers and supermarkets that made it possible to collect valuable material such as plastics and metal seperate from the rest of your waste.
Some - like milk cartons- is burned in high temperature furnaces, metal goes back to industry and plastic and glass get molten down.
Jeansschwimmer 6 days ago
Especially breweries and soft drinks manufacturers are the owners of their high quality bottles so the pawn is an incitements for giving them back. That means they do not go into the containers!!
Coca-Cola company has their own bottles in Germany too for their products and you get the money back when you take the empty bottles back into the supermarket.
The bottles and jars that go into the containers are of course crushed and molten down.
Jeansschwimmer 6 days ago
beer in plastic????
AMERICA IS ILL
peterhabenichts 1 week ago
warum schmeißte denn 8 cent pfand bei 0.49 in den container?
roofer1312 2 weeks ago 3
Germany thank you for caring abot the earth.you are blessed.
1Littleagger 3 weeks ago
@ dutbrothers nicht für die meisten ^^ wiederverwendung, von sowas haben die glaub noch nie gehört ^^
blacktricky1 3 weeks ago
Is doch normal
Dutbrothers 3 weeks ago
Alter wie leben die eig auf der Welt, ist doch das normalste müll und glass zu trennen, sachen solchen ja auch wiederverwendbar sein :o
blacktricky1 1 month ago
Oh no you dropped the wrong bottles into the recycling container, the beer bottles have 8 €-cent refund on them. The Tea, and water? bottle have 15 cent refund on them
We dispose our wine bottles and other glasses there.
most glass and plastic bottles (25 cent refund), also cans (25 cent refund) are brought back to the store ^_^
for me this is normal ^_^
recycling created here lots of jobs...
CAESARbonds 1 month ago 3
The 15ct pawn annoys a lot of people but the good thing about it is, that even the poorest try to make a living by searching the waste for bottles. Its no beautiful sight because it makes you realize, how many poor people are around but its a win win situation. Those get a few euros to at least buy them food or so and the rate of recycled plastic is quite high.
CoIdHeat 1 month ago
girl, i tell you a secret: socialism sucks and so does recycling!
BenTibone 1 month ago
@BenTibone
Guy, I tell YOU a secret, recycling is one of the things that help our industry and society. What's wrong with saving money and resources or creating an industry that provides so many jobs? Btw. social and socialistic are two different things.
McUallas 1 month ago
GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT !
RushFred 1 month ago 2
You forgot the bottle deposit on plastic bottles and cans. Being in Germany I always wonder why other countries don't see this solution to massive amounts of rubbish along roads, in woods, or in their own backyards...
InconvenientTruth4U 1 month ago
Also we love to seperate waste. Every german has a small wastehill in his backyard, and in our free time we seperate tin foil from plastic there for example. This is considered to be fun in germany.
If you don't do this you will get pilloried and people are allowed to throw recycled apples at you...
Schievel 2 months ago 18
yeah. thats it. ehm wait... no.
schlaumensch 2 months ago
i think the girl didn't get the German system. The bottles that are thrown into the bin are not directly reused. We melt them to produce new bottles. The beer bottles, the girl holds are given back by the consumers in a store and get refilled afterwards.... :D
Frydl 2 months ago
germany is the number one in saving our environment! see and learn
alladinsane68 2 months ago 4
We Germans save the world on every single day! Hey, cool, we are heroes!
Eyyoh77 2 months ago 5
Germany has two seperate systems of glas bottles.
The beerbottles in the supermarket are deposit bottles you give back to he place you bought them at. This is the old system.Older than any recycling idea. The bottles (or jars) you throw into a recycling container are being melted up for sure. I have never seen a recycling container that was cushioned to not break the bottle. The industry wants that glas broken.
PoliceViolence 2 months ago
Don't drink Weizenbier out of a bottle.
dkhannjuck 2 months ago 3
Actually you have to pay a pawn for the beer bottles you`ve shown. You have to take them to the supermarket to get your money back, then they will be cleaned, refilled etc. The containers are for pawn free bottles wich will be melted. The Rubber in those containers is for noise reduction and wont protect the bottles from breakage.
zweck4629 2 months ago 36
@andrij66 Your comments show that you are just too lazy for recycling. In Germany we recycle also with a lot of fun paper, plastic and organic waste. So be aware of us!
martinsill1 2 months ago
1:15 wtf? you srsly think that those bottles you just throw in the garbage bin will be reused?? Those are going to get crashed and melted!
SeltsamerAttraktor 3 months ago
@SeltsamerAttraktor
We doesn't use this bottles. we uses mashines like this
CD16eagamer 2 months ago
washing costs to much energy. its being melted.
mymom1234 3 months ago
The things you showed at the beginning are that ones to melt the glass and to produce new bottles (german english: to recycle)
The reused bottles are from the machines in the shops where you get money back. The machines in the shops sort between re-use (glass and plastic) and recycle (the bottles are crashed directly in the machine). There are reusable plasticbottles too, they are stronger than the other plastic bottles.
You find many videos about recycle or revenging machine...
thomerl123 4 months ago
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andrij66 4 months ago
Question if silicon & aluminum are among the most abundant resources... why are we recycling it? last time I checked, there are various ways of melting things, & which ever way you melt something you still have to create heat. This recycling stuff is all nonesense, aluminum is everywhere!!!!!
andrij66 6 months ago
@andrij66 Disregarding any arguments about the abundance of elements... The reason we recycle is to save the energy and dirtiness that accompany any serious mining activities. You already have purely concentrated aluminum in the recyclable cans, so why would you spend so much effort to dig it out of the ground? Face it man, recycling is smart =]
miln40 4 months ago
@miln40 Face what? I've melted Aluminum (1220*F), I haven't done glass because it is much higher (2192*F) There are alot of people that was out there cans & stuff before recycling, when melting something to 1220*F food & labels are burned of or become slag. The people that wash are wasting water on a process that doesn't need to be done, time is wasted collecting & money. It's irrefutable, if it's so concentrated, there would be a factory at the dumpsite. Recycling is stupid.
andrij66 4 months ago
@andrij66 What you fail to mention is the fact of how much water and heat is wasted when you process basic rock to extract the Al in it. Then you need MUCH more resources to obtain it than by just recycling. Besides, aluminum is mined in open pit mining, which is pretty dirty. Factories do not need to be next to dumpsites, since recyclable material does not go to dump sites, but directly to the factories!
miln40 4 months ago
@miln40 Dirty? If you had any construction experience you’d know how excavation & construction machines work. It’s obvious you are small minded & talk about things you really know nothing about. Let’s try one more time, if recycling was really worth it, companies would be competing to pick up your trash, for the recyclables in it.
andrij66 4 months ago
@andrij66 Umm... 'Scuse me, but they actually do. In many cities in Germany several garbage collection companies are competing for our trash. And according to the latest numbers 48% of German trash gets recycled. That wouldn't happen if it was as uneconomical as you think. Depositing all trash on dumps would be seen as almost criminally wasteful over here.
JacobSprenger 3 months ago
@andrij66 That’s a bunch of baloney, modern techniques hammer it into a powder, & direct inject it. Then when the metal separates it becomes more than just aluminum, you get alloys of zinc, copper & many others metals. Heat wasted? Dude, did you even read the temperature settings? This isn’t finding efficiency in baking a single cake. 1200+*F is really, really hot. Insulation & efficency is in a companies interest.
andrij66 4 months ago
In Penn & Teller: Bullshit! they said that it costs more energy to recycle a bottle than to make a new one.
RottenRroses 7 months ago
Well i for one am glad there is no deposit fee for buying glass. i buy glass everything because i don't like the chems plastic leaches . I reuse them or throw them into the blue bin WM then recycles . Now when I was in a apartment I threw away a ton because recycling was not offered . Apartments are the biggest offenders .
bluediamond2077 9 months ago
Germans do a great job in recycling glass but I think this video is a little misleading. Glass that goes into the recycle bins is used in glass making and is not washed and refilled. However, when you buy many bottled products in Germany you pay a hefty deposit fee that is refunded when you bring the bottles back to the store or may be traded for filled bottles for the cost of the product alone. The returned bottles are washed and refilled.
epg43 10 months ago 3
We need a system like this in the U.S.
ChristopherJManess 1 year ago
@ChristopherJManess I agree with you 100%. We USED to do this here, in the U.S.
I'm 62, and as a child, I used to pick up glass soda and beer bottles on the side of the road and return them for the deposit that was paid on their purchase. I also worked @ a Coca Cola bottling plant, and sorted and washed bottles for refill.
Too bad our society is too lazy, disinterested, and short-sighted to reflect on the past.
turkthagorqas 1 month ago
@turkthagorqas It's ridiculous how advanced many countries are in comparison to the United States, that has geared up to profit the few and squander the many like cattle, with a flagrant disregard for humanity, respect and decency.
ChristopherJManess 1 month ago
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Doing a little research on waste management in Germany. Did you know they landfilled less than 1% of their waste in 2008.
They pay a deposit of Euro .25c for each bottle (between .1 and 3 litre) and get
that back when it is returned. Not what they are showing in this vid though (?)
JoeWhiteManchester 1 year ago
Doing a little research on waste management in Germany. Did you know they landfilled less than 1% of their waste in 2008.
They pay a deposit of Euro .25c for each bottle (between .1 and 3 litre) and get
that back when it is returned. Not what they are showing in this vid though (?)
JoeWhiteManchester 1 year ago
Doing a little research on waste management in Germany. Did you know they landfilled less than 1% of their waste in 2008.
They pay a deposit of Euro .25c for each bottle (between .1 and 3 litre) and get that back when it is returned. Not what they are showing in this vid though (?)
JoeWhiteManchester 1 year ago
Doing a little research on waste management in Germany. Did you know they landfilled less than 1% of their waste in 2008.
They pay a deposit of Euro .25c for each bottle (between .1 and 3 litre) and get that back when it is returned. Not what they are showing in this vid though (?)
For further eco info check out my blog
JoeWhiteManchester 1 year ago
Te amo Alemania= I love you Germany= Ich liebe dich Deutschland
Greetings from the US
maryuriwood07 1 year ago
@maryuriwood07 I feel the same way!! :) Ich liebe dich Deutschland!
hannavas11 1 year ago
@savetheearthorg I like your video, but what you say is not quit right. First of all the bottles you throw in these containers aren't used again, like attk177 says. Second the bottles you showed at the store are so called deposit bottles, you didn't throw them in these containers, you can give them back in every store and get a deposit for them (8 cent). The 3 bottles you throw in the containers, @0:43 where deposit bottles.
SD6552 1 year ago
that doesn't answer why -- at all, just that they do!
mthomas1776 1 year ago
Is she drinking wheat beer out of the BOTTLE??? as a german i'm outraged! ;)
Besserwisser89 1 year ago
America and recycling?
IN PA,NY and in the whole Area they dont recycle.
eisregen4 1 year ago
hahaha they dont wash it and reuse it... the reason why there are brown, green and clearglass containers is, because they melt it.
one single bottle of green glass would turn half a ton of clearglass greenish..
and its nothing new, we use this kind of recycling for decades
attk177 1 year ago 32
@attk177 don't call bullshit,today you pay deposit for every bottle and if you return the bottle the any supermarket they return the deposit you've payed!
JumpingCookie95 2 months ago
@JumpingCookie95 that doesnt count for all bottles though. whine bottles, vegetables jars and stuff gets recycled. what you mean are plastic bottles, cans, waterbottles, beerbottles....
attk177 1 month ago
@attk177 I am from Germany,I know the System,yes It doesn't count for all Bottles,but remember,they will clean the bottle or "reuse" them
JumpingCookie95 1 month ago
@attk177 Beerbottles, and some others, are really cleared and reused! Others are often melt. greetings from germany
I2thavo 1 month ago
@attk177
This is a retarded comment. Obviously they do not melt the bottles. If they did, there would be no wear marks. Broken bottles are melted and re-blown into new bottles, however glasses of different color are not mixed.
momrey 1 month ago
@momrey
look at the comment below attk177's comment. you will only find wear marks on bottles you payed a pawn for. the containers are for pawn free bottles so thats why you would never find wear marks on these type of bottles, cause they get melted-
elektrokuma 1 month ago
@momrey obviously you have no fucking clue, because not one bottle that gets thrown away will ever pass the quality check to just use it again. little parts break away and make it dangerous.
every new bottle consists out of 60% recycled glas! the wear marks are because they run through 3 big industries - productioning - filling at brewery - export to stores
youre not just wrong, but also a moron
attk177 1 month ago
@attk177 u are right that a bottle that was dumped in these containers shown in the videos doesnt get reused (they recycle the glass, not the bottle), but the bottles in the store ARE reused. if you buy beer in germany (>95% is sold in glassbottles i would guess) you pay 8ct pawn for the bottle and you can return them to any store that sells the same kind of bottles.
these brown bottles are somehow standardized and even the smallest brewery uses them. while big companys have own designs
heldgop 1 month ago
@heldgop the 8ct pawn is actually a kind of caution, so you dont through it away on the street.
attk177 1 month ago
So... the Germans are burning gas to save glass? This is environmentally destructive. Think about it. You're spending valuable non-renewable resources to save something (silicon) that is close to useless - and spewing carbon in the atmosphere in the process. A little research on the economics might change your views on this practice.
sidspop 1 year ago
@sidspop
Wrong.
Didn't you realise how much more energy it needs to produce new glass all the time? Besides this we reuse glass without burning it. Your comment is illogical.
We even separate plasic, metal, domestic appliances and other rubbish to recycle it and to save resources.
Germany is world champion in recycling and and energy saving.
USA still got caught in the stone age when it comes to this.
Lintflas 1 year ago
@Lintflas Nein. Sie haben leider falsch gelesen. I wrote: "Germans are burning gas [gasoline/petroleum] to save glass." My comment isn't illogical. The illogic in recycling comes in attempting to remove it from economic reality. Prices and scarcity determine the viability of recycling. Government recycling is an insane system because it attempts to suspend economic laws through subsidy and forced labor. (Es tut mir aber Leid.)
sidspop 1 year ago
@Lintflas Nein. Sie haben leider falsch gelesen. I wrote: "Germans are burning gas [gasoline/petroleum] to save glass." My comment isn't illogical. The illogic in recycling comes in attempting to remove it from economic reality. Prices and scarcity determine the viability of recycling. Government recycling is an insane system because it attempts to suspend economic laws through subsidy and forced labor. You're living in an illusion (Es tut mir aber Leid.)
sidspop 1 year ago
@sidspop
It isn't removed from economic realitiy and the recycling is done by private corporations, and of course it costs more gas to produce new glass instead of using old glass, and that' why your comment is wrong.
Lintflas 1 year ago
@Lintflas Then it's just forced labor by the government for the sake of a corporation. That's arguably worse. If it's true that recyclables have value, then companies would pay us to collect them (or at least not charge). If the things have no value - and landfill space became too scarce - recycling might be cost effective. But it's not likely Prices and property determine the value ecosystem, not the government. The energy requirements of recycling glass v. production isn't the whole picture.
sidspop 1 year ago
@sidspop
It's forced by the government because we have the strongest act for the protection of nature and to save energy. Because of this we are the cleanest and greenest industrial nation on the planet. This is not about economy, it's about nature.
And yet this philosphy has made us world champion in solar and wind energy, in recycling and energy saving houses, and our economy even benefits from this, because the green industry has created millions of new jobs.
Lintflas 1 year ago
@Lintflas You're living in a dreamworld. It doesn't make you cleaner. And diverting resources from more productive uses to less productive uses is not sustainable. It's wasteful. You're living in a Malthusian dreamworld.
sidspop 1 year ago
@sidspop
Oviously I'm living in a real world.
In fact we are cleaner and greener, and if you compare the areas of high population density between Germany and the USA, the USA looks like an energy and resources wasting cormorant.
Even your president Obama confirms this, and that's why he's right to push the green energy industry forward in the USA.
Lintflas 1 year ago
@Lintflas It is also one reason Germans are poorer than their American Cousins
mthomas1776 1 year ago
@mthomas1776
Germans are poorer? lol
Just ask those 40.000.000 Americans who need daily food stamps to get something to eat, and talk back to me later. In fact the overall living standard of the USA is far below the german standard. I travelled the USA several times, so I know what I'm talking about.
There are even vast areas in the USA looking like a third world country, and some of the larger cities look like a rubbish dump compared to Germany.
Lintflas 1 year ago
@Lintflas Germans on average make 3/4 what an average American makes -- Consider Berlin (where this film was made) -- more than 30% unemployed. There are far more people in Germany that are able to work that do not -- look up the stats.
When I lived in Berlin, in Wedding and Shoeneburg, you could not convince me that Berliners are richer than Americans. Clearly you are from Bonn, or some other city if you forget the eastern part of your country. Go to Jena and talk!
mthomas1776 1 year ago
@mthomas1776
Berlin doesn't represent the whole nation, and 30% is wrong. It is 13,5%.
In fact unemployment (latest data 9/31) in Germany has sunken to the lowest rate since the german reunification, and the trend goes on. The crisis did not really harm our economy and the order situation looks very good.
Lintflas 1 year ago
@Lintflas It is hard to harm an economy with such high unemployment. You clearly don't understand your own statistics.
You claim that you have seen places in the US that prove third world status AND you claim that places I have seen in Germany are not representative. I think you have contradicted yourself.
How many people in Germany do you think are receiving support from the state, BTW? As a percentage, 40,000 of 300,000,000 is less than Germany, a country the size of Montana.
mthomas1776 1 year ago
@mthomas1776
Didn't you read my last comment? Google the facts if you don't believe me. Of course I understand the statistics. Your arguments are wrong, and I didn't say those places represent the whole USA.
Lintflas 1 year ago
@Lintflas Thank you. I accept your apology for implying that the US is like a third world country. I agree, that was absurd. It equals the absurdity of your statistics. I have lived in Berlin, you can fudge the numbers and try to get the number lower, but please include the people that are on permanent social insurance before you come back with that weak sauce "google it" crap.
mthomas1776 1 year ago
@Lintflas It would be really easy to drop the unemployment to 0% in the US if we had the type of social insurance in Germany, the problem is that GDP would fall by 30%
mthomas1776 1 year ago
@mthomas1776
Or take a look at your horrible health care system. Search for "Lou Dobbs on Healthcare in Germany" to see the facts. He compares the retarded US system witth the german system.
Lintflas 1 year ago
@Lintflas You clearly don't understand English if you think Lou Dobbs is an authority.
Ted Kennedy did not go to Germany for Health Care, he went to the best doctors in the world.
mthomas1776 1 year ago
@Lintflas I should apologize, I am having fun with you. Meine Frau ist Deutcher aus Koeln. I love Germans, I just know enough economics to know that if you have to subsidize something for it to exist then it wastes resources. This is a lesson that is learned in the first semester of economics. You can believe your religion as long as you want, that is what happens in a free society. However, sooner or later your will realize that it is nothing more than a fantasy.
mthomas1776 1 year ago
@mthomas1776
Yep, and I love America and I have some wonderful friends there. Of course your philosophy isn't wrong at all. It's just different, but that's not the german or european way.
Did you know that Germany is almost able to supply itself completely with renewable energy? It just takes another 6-10 years and we can turn off all atomic plants and coal power stations. This is not a fantasy, it's a forward-thinking solution.
Lintflas 1 year ago
@Lintflas I would love to be wrong. Skeptics are funny in that they always are happy to be wrong.
mthomas1776 1 year ago
@Lintflas
It's completely irrelevant if Dobbs is an authority or not. He just compared the proven facts, and they make your system look a mess.
Of course Ted Kennedy didn't go to Germany, because he had enough money to afford the medical treatment in the USA. Ordinary american families have to sell their house to afford it.
Lintflas 1 year ago
@Lintflas Nein. Sie haben leider falsch gelesen. I wrote: "Germans are burning gas [gasoline/petroleum] to save glass." My comment isn't illogical. The illogic in recycling comes in attempting to remove it from economic reality. Prices and scarcity determine the viability of recycling. Government recycling is an insane system because it attempts to suspend economic laws through subsidy and forced labor. You're living in an illusion (Es tut mir aber Leid.)
sidspop 1 year ago
@Lintflas Let me see if I understand this -- 1) bottles are washed and reused. If that is the case then the energy used in collecting, washing, and transporting can be compared to the energy used to take sand and make new bottles. We also have to account for the rental price for the hole in the ground broken bottles are put in. 2) bottles are crushed into sand -- this option means that rather than buy sand you manufacture sand, clearly a more costly process which uses more resources.
mthomas1776 1 year ago
@mthomas1776
Do you really believe that we do recycling just for fun? Of course it save a hundred times more energy to wash bottles and reuse them, instead of producing new ones. There's a bottle deposit of 25 cent on every bottle and every can. This keeps our country tidy, and you get back your money when you bring the bottle to your next supermarket. This system works great for decades and no one complains about it.
Lintflas 1 year ago
@Lintflas I don't think recycling is fun. It is a sick twisted post-modern religion which admits no evidence that it is wrong. Germans were crazy in the dark ages and have not learned much since then. Adam Smith helped transform the Enlightenment thought of the Italians and French into something that Launched Commercial and Industrial society while the Germans were still blaming everything on foreigners living amongst themselves. Get with the 18th century!
mthomas1776 1 year ago
@mthomas1776
You just screwed yourself. Dream on the US dream of endless debts. Let's meet again in 10 years and you'll see who survived. You Americans are completely retarded when it comes to forward-thinking in environment protection.
Germany is world leader in solar/ wind energy and recycling and even your proven wrong comments won't change our "craziness"
Lintflas 1 year ago
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@Lintflas I think your English is a bit bad. I don't follow the first sentence. Being the world leader in solar energy is just like being 3rd place in Soccer, cute, nice, and totally useless.
Did it ever strike you that you are winning a game that no one else is playing?
mthomas1776 1 year ago
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@Lintflas I think your English is a bit bad. I don't follow the first sentence. Being the world leader in solar energy is just like being 3rd place in Soccer, cute, nice, and totally useless.
Did it ever strike you that you are winning a game that no one else is playing?
mthomas1776 1 year ago
why does Germany LOVE to Recycle glass?answer to make beer glasses out of it:-)
MrKabanosi 1 year ago
very nice. it would be cool to have the date on the bottom to see how long they can be kept going.
wakadudel 2 years ago
isch liebe deutschland.........my favorite country......wooo I miss Mein Deutschland
kunvar25 2 years ago
Cool! Every place is a little different. I would use recycled bottles as long as they're disinfected. I just don't want someone putting a gun to my head and forcing me (or you) to recycle. There is nothing wrong with volentary conservation.
daveassanowicz 2 years ago
Recycling glass doesn't save the environment at all. One has to build separate bins, transport separately (more CO2), and separate further at the recycling plant, then one has to reheat the glass to melt it just as you have to do to make glass in the first place. Basically it replaces collecting new sand with collecting old bottles, no difference.
darkmiles22 2 years ago
In Sweden we have recycled bottles since mid 50s. Its at 330ml bottle in flint/green and brown and you can buy it in all stores. Its very popular in resturants... The year wich the bottle was made can you see on the bottle, its not rare that you still find bottles wha are made in the 60s/70s
scandic1977 2 years ago
I used to work for Miller Brewing: They used to gather their returned bottles and reuse, but people would put cigarette butts, limes, other objects that couldn't be removed by machine, so they started using new bottles even though it increased costs.
doorcty 2 years ago
An interesting system. Germany is clearly at the forefront of European environmental friendliness! Toll XD
Uk2rok 3 years ago 14
Sooner or later the glass bottle will vanish.
It is about to get replaced by the PET-bottle because the glass bottle needs too much energy for recycling and transportation.
The PET can take more refillings, is lightweight and takes more impact load.
nachtrauch 3 years ago
That´s one of the few things I´m proud of thinking about my country: The germans do really care about the environment, especially when it comes to waste. We supply african warlords with weapons but at least we dont fuck up our our planet.
Schinsky 3 years ago
yes so that's why coca cola bottles used to have those marks, in Mexico we used to reuse all glass bottles, and then PET bottles took over... at least we've got glass bottles back again on supermarkets... so we can choose...
bletanian 3 years ago
I have never seen anything like this before. I even wrote a thesis on recycling in college and I never knew that any program existed where they actually RE-USE the same bottles and put them back on the shelf.
Effective program. In the USA I think people would have a hard time getting over the fact that the same bottles had been used before.
walterlv01 3 years ago
It seems unhygenic. I don't know if i support this type of recycling.
JustinFromSydney 3 years ago
"unhygenic"?
the bottles are cleaned more than once and get desinfekted, checked for germs ect.
they even use detectors for "smelling" if somebody used this bottle for gasoline, chemicals ect and these bottles get kicked out automatically...
dont worry, it´s absolutly hygenic. germany has strictly hygiene standards;)
sorry, my english isn´t very good...
sebamed79 3 years ago 3
@sebamed79 Our glass is sent to British Glass at Alloa, Scotland for melting down and re forming, after colour seperation, so the hygiene issue would not apply nor would the smell idea. The process involves temperatures of 2000 degrees.
bluebus270 1 year ago
because Europe is superior to the United States. Americans are always so arrogant but in reality, they don't know much.
please don't take it personal, though.
zensorship 3 years ago
So the bottles in this case are themselves reused as opposed to being melted down and made into new bottles?
rd1027 3 years ago
yes, there are two kinds of bottles "einweg"(means one-way) and "mehrweg"(multi-way).
the "einweg"-bottles you have put in the container and it will melted down to produce new bottles. the "mehrweg"-bottles you have to bring back to the supermarktet, you get some money back and these bottles will send back to the breweries, coca cola or whatever. the bottles get cleaned ect and filled with new beer, cola ect.
sebamed79 3 years ago
watch this video: Postcard from Germany no1 for BSONTV
/watch?v=wXrXz6l_elI
this guy in the video explain how it works.. ;)
sebamed79 3 years ago
Fantastic! I would like to try every single beer in the video! Berlin clearly knows what's up!!
americanbulldogmom 4 years ago