The effect of overturning roe v. wade and the GOP candidates

[JohananRaatz]

Why not just make it harder for them period? I mean we can cap off some of their abortions by making big swaths of states in which there are no legalized abortions. In this case a lot of people simply won't travel the distance.

[d3p3ch3mod3]

This is one of my few hang ups with Ron Paul that I just can't get over no matter how much I want to vote for the guy. Roe V Wade got it wrong when they said that you get rights when you are capable of living outside of the mother, but it was an interpretation of the constitution that supercedes the rights of states, same as the bill of rights. Abortion is not murder beyond a reasonable doubt, so you can't prosecute it.

[bratzwinx2]

It's a moral issue and last I checked this country still runs on morals because if they didn't then everyone would be allowed to kill one another whenever they wanted and never get punished for it. I just want to know why prochoicers want it to be ok for mothers to kill their own innocent children and make them think that it's ok. It's not. It's still murder. These babies bleed just as we would if we underwent such mutilation. Get a conscience!

[d3p3ch3mod3]

Embryo does not equal baby. Chickens and cows feel more pain and suffering from the meat industry than a fetus does from abortion, and in greater numbers. Humans are members of the Kingdom Animilia. I can understand pro-life vegetarians and their philosophy of sanctity of life, but an embryo doesn't even have a brain, a chicken nugget once did.

[TeGadzsodillouTe]

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[MrBennetzen]

On abortion, I have to stand by my friends that are Roman Catholic and say: Repeal Roe Vs. Wade NOW!!!!

[d3p3ch3mod3]

1: If Ron Paul believes abortion is murder then why isn't he in favor of a national ban?

2: If he believes the Federal government can't be trusted to decide why does he think a state government can?

A TRUE Libertarian would be for individual freedom, not state freedom. Ron Paul is a constitutionalist, not a Libertarian.

[mguardus]

A TRUE libertarian knows that the only role goverment has is to ensure life and liberty for every individual. Ron Paul simply extends that protection to the unborn. The argument is not constitutionalist vs. libertarian, but rather when does one become an individual - before or after birth.

[d3p3ch3mod3]

If you say that "the argument" is about conception, clump of cells vs human being, etc, then why doesn't he favor a national ban? If he believes it's murder why is it okay for some states to allow it? It's just so dumb how he acts like the issue is SO black and white but then he doesn't back it up with a black and white stance

[d3p3ch3mod3]

He's the one making it about libertarianism when he cops out and says he wants the states to decide. I'm saying that his plan is PRO CHOICE, not PRO LIFE. Who chooses? With him, THE STATES. With Roe V Wade? THE INDIVIDUAL .. Which is more Libertarian?

[surprise1982]

No, with him, the state, with roe v. wade the supreme court. He doesnt think 9 robed citizens should make moral decisions for this country.

[d3p3ch3mod3]

OK so how is it any better to let the same system decide these things on a state level? How is it any different other than scale? Libertarianism is supposed to be about personal freedom, and he wants to move the choice from the individual up to the state level, then he's acting like he's giving us MORE freedom. Bullshit.

[surprise1982]

It is not with the individual now. It is with the court. He wants to move it from the court to the state legislatures because that is the place to debate moral issues. The question rests on the time when the fetus is considered alive. People have different ideas on this issue, and the best way to decide it is to let each state do what is most representative of people living in it.

[d3p3ch3mod3]

It IS up to the individual now, that's the whole point of Roe V Wade, letting the PERSON decide if it's right, not a government.

How is letting the states govts decide any better than letting the fed govt decide? Well if you're pro-life and you probably are its good because it will be banned in some places, taking away individual choice. You just don't want the Federal Govt to decide because you disagree with their decision.

[GalacticOverlord]

I've always been a Depeche Mode fan, now I'm a d3p3ch3mod3 fan, too!

Kudos on your arguments!

[d3p3ch3mod3]

im trying but im still naive. im glad to see there are other people who see it the way i do though because i really believe that abortion isn't an issue that the government can fix just by banning it whether one believes it's moral or not

[coffeeintheface]

I'm libertarian, and I am 100% pro-choice. This is a hell of a dilemma since I do not like the Supreme Court making decisions that the Constitution relegates to the states.

BUT from a 100% personal point of view I see Roe v. Wade as the less of two evils. It's curious that many of my fellow libertarians who dislike the system of democracy would leave a woman's abortion decision to a democratic majority of the state.

But again, in terms of the Constitution it basically IS a states' rights issue

[d3p3ch3mod3]

All persons born or naturalized in the US, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the US and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

[andrew197553]

abortion is wrong and roe vs wade will be overturned

[tatrev]

he can't sing... at all, f..k i wish he'd shut up...

-not related to video-

[jett48]

Better question than most. Ans partially-there is no right to privacy in the constitution not withstanding the "penumbra' idiotic argument. Should be left to the states

[btoups1]

If you take the 4th, 9th, and 14th amendments to their logical conclusions there is no way a logical thinker can't interpret there is a right to privacy.

[ralphschofield]

btoups1, I hate when people says stuff like "there is no way a logical thinker..." could think something when Supreme Court justices indeed thought that way and wrote opinions that were at least compelling to some.