@smithyboi6 Seemed practically airworthy. If it's a paperwork issue it wouldn't make a lot of sense to potentially run the thing into trees over that.
@archer49d Not just a paperwork thing it's more of a safty thing... Abit like an MOT for your car, you can drive it without it but it could be dangerous :)
True. I would safely say that, if this aeroplane, and crew, were the only 'facility' capable of doing a special, one-off mission, then this machine would have it's 'MOT' in a heartbeat!.
Bloody paper shufflers!.
As it is, from that day, the many children who were there and actually saw a Victor fly, albeit briefly, can tell their Grandchildren's Children, "When I was as young as you, I saw a Victor fly".
How can you mistakenly open the throttles instead of closing them when spooked? Thats like me accelerating towards a deer that's just run in front of my car rather than braking!!???
@kneeslider47 Apparently sometimes that happens, people mistake the gas for the brake pedal in panic :P. Not sure why, but there you go LOL. I'm sure doing the same in a plane takes longer though, so I agree with you on this vid...
The co-pilot was an unnamed engineer (no legal action was taken against him). He simply froze according to the CAA report into the incident. Bob Prothero was the pilot on this day, he issued the order to the co-pilot, who was only an engineer to pull back on the throttle but he hesitated resulting in this. Luckily these things don't happen everyday and the Bob saved many lives that day because of his actions.
Thanks for taking the time viewing this video and leaving a comment.
But your closed statement of 'You were unwise to put this on You-Tube' bemuses me as there is not much subsentence in your comment. Please take the time to explain why this was unwise.
@Dagger3856 I think he might mean because it's an illegal manoeuvre due to the plane and pilots not being licensed. Although it is unfounded as the CAA are aware of it and have said they won't be taking legal action. It's an impressive recovery considering the pilot was 70 years old who and hadn't flown this plane for over 20 years since.
@ShoeLube impressive?? I don't think impressive covers any of the actions taken by this idiot. How any pilot or engineer can manage to accidentally takeoff is beyond me. He should have had the book thrown at him, 70 or not.
@unapro3 Well if you looked into it, you would know that it was the Co-Pilot who mistakenly put the throttle on not the pilot. Maybe someone not experienced shouldn't have been given that responsibility but it's not illegal to taxi on private ground. I thought it was impressive because planes are hard to pilot and with a split second notice he put it down. Maybe he was lucky but the main thing is no one got hurt.
@ShoeLube I don't need to look into it. If the Pilot or person in charge of the aircraft at the time did not have the smarts to realize what was going on, then he does not have the smarts to be in that position. It actually is illegal to taxy an aircraft that you are not endorsed in or for that matter ground run the engines regardless of where you are. But I'm not sure why you mention that as I didn't. Why do people mention the bleeding obvious - "main thing is no one got hurt"???
@unapro3 The newspaper report I read said (rightly or wrongly) they were allowed to do the intended manoeuvre, you implied they weren't with your "Throw the Book" comment. That's Why I mentioned it. Didn't realise I was talking to an aviation expert such as yourself though. I don't know what your problem is, I only offered my thoughts to the uploader's question as the original poster hadn't replied. Also, if you don't like obvious statements, then I suggest you steer clear of YouTube comments.
@Dagger3856 It'll be something like, "The pilot will be prosecuted and this video used in evidence"... Obviously the bloke's a troll. Besides, the CAA interviewed everyone concerned and found no case to pursue. Had the victor left the airfield and flown a circuit I'm very sure they would have taken action.
@Dagger3856 i think he probably thought the crew had got away with it, no reprimand or anything, and that this may flag up to authorities, such as CAA, that it happened. Though ofc it's a non-issue as there was a CAA investigation anyway, and it was found to be an accident
@Dagger3856 Sure, have a look at some of the comments below. That's why. Everytime someone puts something on YT about naughty little incidents, esp in UK, it ends up with the authorities investigating. I know what happened that day, I worked at Bruntingthorpe. We decided to keep schtum about the incident. But unfortunately, the owner of this, the longest private runway in Europe, was forced to implement strict rules governing runway operations. Merry Christmas & prosperous 2012.
@daviator78 Ya know? I really don't care for things that sound like threats! I really don't care if I wasnt the target. Knock it off or leave the Tube. -The West Side of the "Pond"
love how conversation burst into life as it got back on the runway, everyone there saying "hold on that shouldnt of just happend". I agree with other comments that the victor should still fly, we all have our favourite planes, mines the Vulcan, but as a country we should preserve for flight some key british jets just like we do with the BBMF. Namely this, the lightning, mosquito, buccanear, canberra & Harrier. I understand the importance of the BBMF, but these aircraft where key for a time too!
(1) flaps were lowered. If this was supposed to be a faked take-off, the flaps would not be necessary, it'd only help with lift. (2) power should've been cut completely before the pilot rotated. But regardless of this, aircraft are designed and made to fly. So to that extent: regardless of intent, "Always be mentally prepared to fly".
contiued..... as the government wants us to forget our history of technology, since the mass de industrialisation of both labour and mainly the tories after the war. starting with tsr-2 and then the coal mines which lead to the rest of industry failing, the railways, the steel works, the aviation industry the lot. all gone forever, and not many give a toss. I DO, lets create out own party pide in britain, and make te country we all want, not the consumer platform we have become for fat cats.
contiued,,,, people go on about the cost, yes they do cost alot, compared to individuals pockets, but the cost compared to the governments pockets it tiny, pennies. think of how much money is wasted on stupid statues on round abouts, or on overcomplicated traffic signals like one at stourbridge i know, this stuf is important, not to just the uk but the world, after all we had so many technological firsts of which the v force was one of many. by grounding them we can forget our history, ......
god all these comments, its obvious ow it come to take off, the victor would not be full of fuel meaning its very light, there were heavy cross winds and the victor is amazingly aerodynamic and has great lift characteristics, no suprise to me that a plane so light with such aerodynamics in a cross wind suddenly lifted, they were designed to get up quickley after all. and as for these planes and others yes they should be paid for by the government and kept flying. people go on about the cost,
You can read the full story of this incident on wikipedia.
A lot of critisism could be made, but for my money, the grandad at the controls did a fine job. Clearly once you;ve got it, you never lose it. Our servicemen..past and present... really are extraordinary people. RESPECT.
@harleydog7 no....this aircaft on a fast taxi is not allowed to leave the ground.......it was not considered airworthy at the time and was not liscenced to fly. it took off by accident......the guy at the controls got it wrong. he was not a qualified pilot....he was ground crew. the guy who brought it back down was an ex-victor pilot who was along for the ride.
That is correct. That Victor Tanker would not have had a Permit to Fly from the Civil Aviation Authority when this incident happened which is why such publicity was made about it. Without a permit from the CAA keeps the aircraft grounded. The purpose of the taxi run was to demonstrate its fast taxi speed only, however the co-pilot was perhaps unaware of the high taxi speed when it subsquently rotated at V1.
@flygweilo Not without a CAA Aerodrome Licence they dont! Thint the co-pilot got a bit carried away with the Throttle. Makes for good entertainment though.
@mypspisdead Undersstood - although I knew that from the wind noise on the tape already.
Unfortunately, it does not account for what happened. If an aircraft is properly trimmed, then even letting go of the controls will not result in a rotation. A gust would have been in the order of 80 kts+ in order to get the Victor to lift off, and even then it would NOT have 'rotated' - it would simply have lifted off, essentially nose level.
@flygweilo Jamming the thrust levers forward will cause the aircraft to accelerate faster, but - again - will not cause the aircraft to rotate, unless the aircraft is improperly trimmed, or the Pilot Flying (PF) pulls back on the yoke.
It's the rotation which is bothering me - if the PF simply let go of the yoke, why did the aircraft rotate?
@flygweilo Not without a CAA Aerodrome Licence they dont! Think the co-pilot got a bit carried away with the Throttles. Makes for good entertainment though.
That is an amazing clip and quite scarey as It looks like he landed back on the grass, as for stopping ....looked like he was going to end up in the woods....quite amazing is all I can say!!!!
impressive... thought for one moment it was going to dive into the soil , well caught pilot . nice video. i have just uploaded the elvington airfields victor doing the same high speed taxi down the strip near York Oct 2010 have a look
If you're going to spend hundreds of dollars or pounds in this case, just for a high speed taxiing, then you might as well let the old girl take to the air and get your money's worth. Screw the political correctness or should that be nearsightedness of Govenment Departments who can't see beyond so called "regulations". Stuff em all!!
This is just me, but I'd've left the flaps up and deployed spoilers (if so equipped). Any pilot wil tell you, during high-speed taxis, ALWAYS be mentally prepared to fly. It can happen...and did. This was a heart-stopper, considering only 5 remain. Good recovery, they saved it.
Amazing..The Victor is one of my favourite British military Aircraft..Obviously this bird wants too fly again..Perhaps one day. Problem is if they can't get that Vulcan in the air for very long because of the recession, I feel the Victor may take some time yet..Fingers cross though,i would love too see one in the environment she was built for.
@kook2222 Trust me- you represent NO threat to me. Looking at your anti British comments elsewhere you just seemto have "a problem" - full stop. Your other comments seem to all about Vietnam as well? I think you just have a problem and I'll leave it at that - your comments can be viewed by the whole internet - they can make their mind up. SUCKER.
No, they are long retired. After the first gulf war I think. That was the tanker variant. That one is in taxi-able condition but not certified as airworthy.
It's WRONG that we ground beautiful icons like this which represent the 'Great' in the Great Britian..!! Personally, my heart LEPT for joy at seeing this beauty take to the air - a big UP YOURS to the Criminals Against Aviation (CAA) and their namby pamby frikin rules..!! Stuff em - were i at the controls of this bomber i know which two targets i'd have lined up in my sights, offices in London and Gatwick..!! European Health & Safety & political frikin correctness - Huh..!
@Deac505 totally agree, we are fast becoming strangles by h&s etc. our local airfield in Shropshire is no longer allowed to put on an air show. Ludicrous, well done for your comment. TMFW
@Deac505 When you Brits get tired of the asinine domestic tyranny, put NIGEL FARAGE into office and make sure the Parliament is crammed full of UKIP candidates. A Parliament led by Farage would clean out the U.K.'s own Augean Stables!
If *I* were at the controls of that bomber, I'd have bombed the Rothschilds into extinction and the Bank of England. The rest of the bloody busybodies would collapse in short order.
Reading all these comments.... fast taxi with those flaps ?? anyway good for them, it still flies and hats off to the crew that maintains it. Brilliant plane
it's an interesting story. it was to be just a slow taxi. the Pilot Mr Bob Prothero had last flew the Victor in the 1980s, but at 70 years old he had not had a pilots lic. for years. the case was the co-pilot hitting full throttle by accident. The pilot said it was 'the most terrifying nine seconds of my life'. The name of the plane was "Teasin' Tina", and the plane would normally use drag chutes to slow down. The co-pilot was an engineer who worked on the jet, and not a pilot.
A big 'Up Yours' to the CAA and their STUPID NANNY-STATE rules. Glad you're all enjoying your JOBS that writing the IDIOTIC and national pride killing rules keeps you in. Shame on YOU. These aircraft are maintained and operated by people with more LOVE AND DEDICATION than any of you buraucrats would even know how to measure. These wonderful machines present what WAS the 'Great' in our Britian title. I think John Beachy Head should SLAM PAST THE caa offices in a Lightning and WAKE YOU PEOPLE UP!
'Fast Taxi'?? 'Fast' taxing is for flight test programs and do not include ROTATING THE AIRCRAFT. (They also do not include take off flaps to my knowledge) Something very fishy about that story.
'Fast Taxi'?? 'Fast' taxing is for flight test programs and do not include ROTATING THE AIRCRAFT. (They also do not include take off flaps to my knowledge) Something very fishy about that story.
Pilot's ERROR! Slightly the Victor went up and stear to the left landed on the glass then stalled, after landing again the pilot tries to stop the aircraft from going into the trees.
it's called a fast-taxi. you may notice that alot of aircraft not permitted to fly in the UK are displayed in fast-taxi mode - or as you put it - charging down the runway - to display them live and running....without actually taking to the sky. A little more research would have had you realising this.
defenetly a good pilot now this plane looks like it had enough airspeed [from the angle of other videos i have watched of this mishap] to have continued flight with the engines at full power untill at a safe minimun airspeed and then done a circuit or selected a proper runway to land but maybe this aircraft did not have enough fuel onboard to complete these short flights so then this immediate landing was then the only alternative
what are you talking about there are no remaining victors unfortuanately which are airworthy,because of the lack of mandatory spare parts engines undercarriage etc, the pilot was being totaly irrisponsable , mishap the bloody nose was pulled up ,no flaps no parachute was deployed. Lusty linda at elvington has done many taxi runs the last one reached i believe 130 knots take off speed ,did it take off no because the pilot was and is a professional
@5515terminator what are YOU talking about!! there were no flaps deployed because it wasnt MEANT to take-off, flaps induce lift you monkey, the nose is lifted off the ground on many taxi-only aircraft as part of the show. there was an inquiry into this incident, it was just the copilot freezing at the throttles and a gust. so you may wish to check your facts and not slag off the pilot who was a former RAF pilot who flew the type operationally, you cant get more professional than that!!
They should have just took it off and flown a normal approach back at the airport. That could have been very dangerous. It looked like a very hard touchdown on the left side, both wingtips almost too. Who cares if they would of been fined and charged. I guess It does not matter though as they made back to the ground ok. They should just license the Victor to fly.
What actually happened, Well, The FO never decreased throttle and they approached takeoff speed with flaps and wind. Both of those will cause the aircraft to takeoff. So yes, Fuck you. Do you have any Idea how dangerous is to land on the grass like that. That is not normal at all and is considered very dangerous. If the airplane can do high speed taxis, I'm sure all of its systems work in the event of an emergency like that. They are lucky those gear didn't give out and that wing didn't snap.
I also forgot, your the one acting like a SMARTASS. Why don't you inform everyone leaving comments on this video if you know so much. From what I've read, That is pretty much what happened. There are also people on here who agree with and disagree and I'm ok with that as long they don't leave me BS comments that have no info in them or you can't back up.
If they had done that then it would have been ever more dangerous, the last time this aircraft flew was the mid 80's I think, that means there is probly alot of corrosion on this aircraft so for all they know, if they had flown it on a normal approach, there would have been a very high chance of the wing breaking off or something like that so its a good job they didnt.
I don't know about the wings falling off. That was a pretty hard landing and there was no damage. It looks like it could have made a go-around and been fine.
Well, maybe I am being a bit dramatic with the wings falling off but this victor hasnt flown for 30 od years I think, and wasnt meant to fly here so anything could have happend. Expect anything from an un airworthy aircraft in the air. I understand you saying that they should have done a normal approach because it would have been really nice to see a victor fly again.
I take it you are both a pilot and an aeronautical engineer? The sad fact is that both the Vulcan and Victor are items of the past, both should be in museums.
The Vulcan and Victor may well be items of the past, but displaying them in working order is the only way to show the children of the future how these machines functioned and what they looked like in their natural environment.
I would rather see 1 flying Vulcan than 100 mounted and stuffed in a museum
@EEWW2006 Your argument would mean we have a Dreadnought and HMS Belfast under full steam! Watching the Vulcan stagger around is a tragedy, it is not stressed nor allowed to perform as it once did. Stop thropwing good money after bad, shut down the engines, or let a very rich person offshore take them away and fly them(Thunder City perhaps).
Ill tell you what then, lets just say Sod the lot of them & cut all the historic items up and turn them into cat food tins.
Should we do the same to a steam locomotive from the 1900's. It happily spends it's retirement chuffing up & down what could be described as a small branch line tugging a few old coaches behind it. It is there as a demonstration on how things used to be. The Vulcan is the same. Let it fly while it can & let people watch in wonder :)
@EEWW2006 Big, big difference between a steam engine and a very,very complex type old chum! The cost and manhours involved between the two are disproportionate. Your diatribe shows a childish spite which I am sure you do not intend, let everyone see these machines, even let the engines burn but stop messing about in the air. You need to have funding without worry to operate these, where do you stop, a C130K in the BoB flight? Get real old boy!
Having served in the Royal Air Force & worked on more modern aircraft (Tornado ,Harrier GR5&7 & of course the mighty cat (Jag) I totally understand exactly how much work goes into maintaining an operational aircraft never mind a preserved one however going by your argument you would ground the Sally-B & of course the BBMF as it costs too much. They say "Lest we forget" & should these machines be grounded, it wont be long before people do.
@EEWW2006 I too have been associated with aircraft for most of my adult life and it is not only a case of 2nd and 3rd line, but to fly a complex type, needs the manufacturer, (OEM) to endorse and underwrite the platform. A large jet falls into this category, but it menas manhours, in this case BAE,,,,who pays for those? And Sally is not a good example, it is self sustaining financially and not a complex type. BBMF should also not be part of the defence budget!
@MrGrumpybugger Unfortunatly, that is why Concorde will never fly again as Airbus no longer support it. It would appear that the Vulcan is now getting to the point where it is self sustaining. When an 8 minute display at an airshow costs around £30k (£8k of that is fuel) & they have boxes of spares to play with, this machine will be airworthy for many years to come with or without BAE's help. BBMF MUST remain part of the MoD. I would not like our aviation heritage to go to private owners
@EEWW2006 My eldest two boys are and have both been on two Telic and coming up 3 Herrick ops, and even though I was part of the military machine myself, I have severe doubts about the BBMF and Red Arrows cavorting when our chaps are fighting for their lives! All mil involvement in airshows should be stopped until the fighting has ceased, if not out of respect, at least to save money! Private owners, by the way, have more time and resource than you give them credit for!
@MrGrumpybugger From a personal point of view (if you want to get into a pissing contest) I was on Op Granby, attached to the US on Op Provide Comfort 1, Op Deny Flight & Deliberate Force in Former Yugo. Thats beside the point though, I am in agreement on the Arrows, they ponce off to Cyprus while others are sweating blood in the skies of Afghanistan, however they are a good recruiting tool. In no way am I disrespecting private owners however some items should & must be protected by the state.
@EEWW2006 Indeed, I wish no game of mine is bigger than yours! The Red Arrows should be mothballed with immediate effect, as good as they are, it is just so disrespectful for them to continue. As for national treasures, well the state looks after our aircraft heritage quite well in the guise of the FAA Museum, RAF Museum and IWM...the Vulcan, alas is too expensive and quite a waste of money, as good as it is to see in the sky, it is time for bed said zeberdee!
@MrGrumpybugger We are going to have to agree to disagree then I'm afraid. All museums do marvellous work, even down to the Tower museums on the old USAAF fields in Norfolk & Suffolk. Shame we can't manage to get a Lightning or two on the display circuit :) now that would be a sight to show the younger ones!
@EEWW2006 I have no qqualms about private owners using money to fly old types, indeed I owned and flew a SNJ for many years, it was an expensive joy (60 gallons of 100LL per hour fully lean) but I didnt use taxpayers money. The Lightning will never get a AOC and CofA purely because it is a compex Mach2 platform, mind you plenty of Hunters are sonic in a dive. Point is, where would you stop?
@MrGrumpybugger i disagree sorry, the Vulcan played a Very important role through the cold war, acting as a deterrant and also a nuclear weapons platform to deliver should that even have unfolded, its part of the British Aviation heritage and should be proud to fly the British Flag at airshows, it has a story to tell to the younger generations ! :))
@MrGrumpybugger Who are the Red Arrows disrespectful to? And I'm going to disagree that the Vulcan is a waste of money. It might not be 'economical' in a completely objective sense, but the pleasure and joy it brings to people who go to see it are easily worth the expense. The Red Arrows are the same. They are a fantastic advertisement for the RAF, they are a pleasure to watch, and make people proud of their country. There's precious little that does at the moment!
@MrGrumpybugger I disagree with your statement about BBMF and the Red Arrows, because they are not just an inspiration and recruitment tool. They are mostly to honour are veterans from the past and to support our troops that are still out there. With no airshows, our aviation heritage would destroy itself, just like Canada are doing. I'm from England but I now live in Canada and have watched how they are slowly destroying their history.
lol all the plane nerds going omgholymoledcrudwow!
TheJaaysog 3 days ago
Casual :)
ScrewballB 1 week ago
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Great video, prime spot to view it, thanks for sharing.
lucas1860 2 weeks ago
Great video, prime spot to view it, thanks for sharing.
lucas1860 2 weeks ago
shit happens;)
lucasjibhi 1 month ago
Should have just done a circuit
gravityxgrace 1 month ago
Would be fantastic to see a Victor in the air again. I mean really flying not hopping haha.
Joeaviation1712 1 month ago
what REALLY happened. Accidental take-off of Victor Bob Prothero explains what happened/ second clip from top this page,,
t0mt 1 month ago
Would have been tempted to take it up and beyond. Nice vid of the old girl
Backpacker1uk 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
WTF is it with being scared of the throttle levers...???
dergrossen 2 months ago
Seemed fully controllable... why the short hop instead of once around the patch?
archer49d 2 months ago
@archer49d Probs because it isnt air worthy :)
smithyboi6 2 months ago
@smithyboi6 Seemed practically airworthy. If it's a paperwork issue it wouldn't make a lot of sense to potentially run the thing into trees over that.
archer49d 2 months ago
@archer49d Not just a paperwork thing it's more of a safty thing... Abit like an MOT for your car, you can drive it without it but it could be dangerous :)
smithyboi6 2 months ago
@smithyboi6
True. I would safely say that, if this aeroplane, and crew, were the only 'facility' capable of doing a special, one-off mission, then this machine would have it's 'MOT' in a heartbeat!.
Bloody paper shufflers!.
As it is, from that day, the many children who were there and actually saw a Victor fly, albeit briefly, can tell their Grandchildren's Children, "When I was as young as you, I saw a Victor fly".
"GrandPa, what's a Victor"?.
"Press -'Play', and watch".
twinstu50 1 month ago
How can you mistakenly open the throttles instead of closing them when spooked? Thats like me accelerating towards a deer that's just run in front of my car rather than braking!!???
kneeslider47 2 months ago
@kneeslider47 Apparently sometimes that happens, people mistake the gas for the brake pedal in panic :P. Not sure why, but there you go LOL. I'm sure doing the same in a plane takes longer though, so I agree with you on this vid...
04smallmj 2 months ago
@kneeslider47
If my truck was as big as a victor i don't think i would really care....but thats just one deer....not crap wads of trees....
People say planes and cars have no souls, but this girl really seemed like she wanted to fly.
xeronicus 2 months ago
That's amazing to behold. Kudos to the skill and experience of the pilot.
pennsyr1 2 months ago
The co-pilot was an unnamed engineer (no legal action was taken against him). He simply froze according to the CAA report into the incident. Bob Prothero was the pilot on this day, he issued the order to the co-pilot, who was only an engineer to pull back on the throttle but he hesitated resulting in this. Luckily these things don't happen everyday and the Bob saved many lives that day because of his actions.
nicomoore16 3 months ago
I wonder if he logged this flight..? hehehehe....
HeavensGremlin 3 months ago
when in doubt, cut it out
bmxwright 3 months ago
this was at elvington not brungtinthorpe
Judjefferys 4 months ago
@Judjefferys Nope, tis Bruntingthorpe :-)
Damnblastify 4 months ago
@Damnblastify o yeah sorry didnt realise there were 2 taxiable victors
Judjefferys 4 months ago
@Judjefferys No worries, I'm glad there are still 2 :-)
Damnblastify 4 months ago
You just can't keep Great British aircraft on the ground....They just want to FLY !!!
P8290970 4 months ago
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You were unwise to put this on You-Tube.
daviator78 5 months ago
@daviator78
Thanks for taking the time viewing this video and leaving a comment.
But your closed statement of 'You were unwise to put this on You-Tube' bemuses me as there is not much subsentence in your comment. Please take the time to explain why this was unwise.
Dagger3856 5 months ago 34
@Dagger3856 I think he might mean because it's an illegal manoeuvre due to the plane and pilots not being licensed. Although it is unfounded as the CAA are aware of it and have said they won't be taking legal action. It's an impressive recovery considering the pilot was 70 years old who and hadn't flown this plane for over 20 years since.
ShoeLube 4 months ago
@ShoeLube impressive?? I don't think impressive covers any of the actions taken by this idiot. How any pilot or engineer can manage to accidentally takeoff is beyond me. He should have had the book thrown at him, 70 or not.
unapro3 3 months ago
@unapro3 Well if you looked into it, you would know that it was the Co-Pilot who mistakenly put the throttle on not the pilot. Maybe someone not experienced shouldn't have been given that responsibility but it's not illegal to taxi on private ground. I thought it was impressive because planes are hard to pilot and with a split second notice he put it down. Maybe he was lucky but the main thing is no one got hurt.
ShoeLube 3 months ago 2
@ShoeLube I don't need to look into it. If the Pilot or person in charge of the aircraft at the time did not have the smarts to realize what was going on, then he does not have the smarts to be in that position. It actually is illegal to taxy an aircraft that you are not endorsed in or for that matter ground run the engines regardless of where you are. But I'm not sure why you mention that as I didn't. Why do people mention the bleeding obvious - "main thing is no one got hurt"???
unapro3 3 months ago
@unapro3 The newspaper report I read said (rightly or wrongly) they were allowed to do the intended manoeuvre, you implied they weren't with your "Throw the Book" comment. That's Why I mentioned it. Didn't realise I was talking to an aviation expert such as yourself though. I don't know what your problem is, I only offered my thoughts to the uploader's question as the original poster hadn't replied. Also, if you don't like obvious statements, then I suggest you steer clear of YouTube comments.
ShoeLube 3 months ago
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@Dagger3856 It'll be something like, "The pilot will be prosecuted and this video used in evidence"... Obviously the bloke's a troll. Besides, the CAA interviewed everyone concerned and found no case to pursue. Had the victor left the airfield and flown a circuit I'm very sure they would have taken action.
Damnblastify 4 months ago
@Dagger3856 i think he probably thought the crew had got away with it, no reprimand or anything, and that this may flag up to authorities, such as CAA, that it happened. Though ofc it's a non-issue as there was a CAA investigation anyway, and it was found to be an accident
willwoodhouse 1 month ago
@Dagger3856 Sure, have a look at some of the comments below. That's why. Everytime someone puts something on YT about naughty little incidents, esp in UK, it ends up with the authorities investigating. I know what happened that day, I worked at Bruntingthorpe. We decided to keep schtum about the incident. But unfortunately, the owner of this, the longest private runway in Europe, was forced to implement strict rules governing runway operations. Merry Christmas & prosperous 2012.
daviator78 1 month ago
@daviator78 Don't tell me, you were the pilot?
zefkosta 4 months ago
@daviator78 Why was he?
lordfoxy23 2 months ago
@daviator78 Ya know? I really don't care for things that sound like threats! I really don't care if I wasnt the target. Knock it off or leave the Tube. -The West Side of the "Pond"
jbird0168 1 month ago
@jbird0168 ??
daviator78 1 month ago
Bravo! lol
bithot2nite 5 months ago
The poor old girl wants to fly again.
franklinrwful 5 months ago
love how conversation burst into life as it got back on the runway, everyone there saying "hold on that shouldnt of just happend". I agree with other comments that the victor should still fly, we all have our favourite planes, mines the Vulcan, but as a country we should preserve for flight some key british jets just like we do with the BBMF. Namely this, the lightning, mosquito, buccanear, canberra & Harrier. I understand the importance of the BBMF, but these aircraft where key for a time too!
zoso11 5 months ago
TAKE OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MRWALKER500000 5 months ago
Everyone approved.
AndrewMcCheyne 5 months ago
I hope that the aeroplane was not damaged in this incident?
Squarerig 5 months ago
This Victor still has what is takes to fly, she wants to be in the air!
Ezza190 5 months ago
Did it take off or not?
2011gmh 5 months ago
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@2011gmh If you watch the video you will be able to answer that one for yourself.
chanctonbury63 5 months ago
What a fuck up!
chanctonbury63 5 months ago
(1) flaps were lowered. If this was supposed to be a faked take-off, the flaps would not be necessary, it'd only help with lift. (2) power should've been cut completely before the pilot rotated. But regardless of this, aircraft are designed and made to fly. So to that extent: regardless of intent, "Always be mentally prepared to fly".
SenorSpode 6 months ago
Well, if anything, it shows the Victor can still easily take off,
bmused55 6 months ago
Its a plane, not a bmw.
jauchiu 7 months ago
wow
izrosszi 8 months ago
Very nearly the last Victor to crash!!!
milesfinch 8 months ago
contiued..... as the government wants us to forget our history of technology, since the mass de industrialisation of both labour and mainly the tories after the war. starting with tsr-2 and then the coal mines which lead to the rest of industry failing, the railways, the steel works, the aviation industry the lot. all gone forever, and not many give a toss. I DO, lets create out own party pide in britain, and make te country we all want, not the consumer platform we have become for fat cats.
robpeter1 8 months ago 2
contiued,,,, people go on about the cost, yes they do cost alot, compared to individuals pockets, but the cost compared to the governments pockets it tiny, pennies. think of how much money is wasted on stupid statues on round abouts, or on overcomplicated traffic signals like one at stourbridge i know, this stuf is important, not to just the uk but the world, after all we had so many technological firsts of which the v force was one of many. by grounding them we can forget our history, ......
robpeter1 8 months ago
god all these comments, its obvious ow it come to take off, the victor would not be full of fuel meaning its very light, there were heavy cross winds and the victor is amazingly aerodynamic and has great lift characteristics, no suprise to me that a plane so light with such aerodynamics in a cross wind suddenly lifted, they were designed to get up quickley after all. and as for these planes and others yes they should be paid for by the government and kept flying. people go on about the cost,
robpeter1 8 months ago
You should crop this - there's a full forty five seconds of nothing before the aircraft starts to roll on the tarmac.
hairyhaw 9 months ago 2
@hairyhaw Right. Good comment. But interesting video, and scary.
ranhat2 7 months ago
"Shouldn't be doing that" lol
goldie5999 9 months ago
wow ive heard of the victor setting car alarms off before but this is the first time ive seen it.
jwalsh8 10 months ago
You can read the full story of this incident on wikipedia.
A lot of critisism could be made, but for my money, the grandad at the controls did a fine job. Clearly once you;ve got it, you never lose it. Our servicemen..past and present... really are extraordinary people. RESPECT.
stu1002 10 months ago
fast taxi would normally include rotate & land within runway limits - they caught a gust & weren't able to correct because of pulled power
harleydog7 10 months ago
@harleydog7 yeah, we all know
mypspisdead 10 months ago
@harleydog7 no....this aircaft on a fast taxi is not allowed to leave the ground.......it was not considered airworthy at the time and was not liscenced to fly. it took off by accident......the guy at the controls got it wrong. he was not a qualified pilot....he was ground crew. the guy who brought it back down was an ex-victor pilot who was along for the ride.
WhitakerSJA 6 months ago
Couldn't they have just flown it around and landed, instead of taking a risk like that.
MrJennings85 10 months ago
@MrJennings85 you cant just take off and fly around as u like, lost of license and prison.
nolifemerc 10 months ago
Maybe it was a middle finger gesture to the cabbages that ended this classic aeroplane's career! :-)
Factnotfictionpeople 10 months ago 9
That is correct. That Victor Tanker would not have had a Permit to Fly from the Civil Aviation Authority when this incident happened which is why such publicity was made about it. Without a permit from the CAA keeps the aircraft grounded. The purpose of the taxi run was to demonstrate its fast taxi speed only, however the co-pilot was perhaps unaware of the high taxi speed when it subsquently rotated at V1.
floydman1 10 months ago
Can anyone please tell me if, during thee high-speed taxi runs at Bruntingthorpe, the aircraft are normally rotated as part of the displays?
flygweilo 11 months ago
@flygweilo Not without a CAA Aerodrome Licence they dont! Thint the co-pilot got a bit carried away with the Throttle. Makes for good entertainment though.
floydman1 11 months ago
@floydman1 So, you can confirm that rotation was NOT a normal part of these high speed taxi runs at Bruntingthorpe?
I'm just trying to understand what went on here ... :)
flygweilo 11 months ago
@flygweilo it got windy :P
mypspisdead 10 months ago
@mypspisdead Undersstood - although I knew that from the wind noise on the tape already.
Unfortunately, it does not account for what happened. If an aircraft is properly trimmed, then even letting go of the controls will not result in a rotation. A gust would have been in the order of 80 kts+ in order to get the Victor to lift off, and even then it would NOT have 'rotated' - it would simply have lifted off, essentially nose level.
flygweilo 10 months ago
@flygweilo Jamming the thrust levers forward will cause the aircraft to accelerate faster, but - again - will not cause the aircraft to rotate, unless the aircraft is improperly trimmed, or the Pilot Flying (PF) pulls back on the yoke.
It's the rotation which is bothering me - if the PF simply let go of the yoke, why did the aircraft rotate?
flygweilo 10 months ago
@flygweilo In my opinion his C.G was off, an improper weight distribution could do that.
incheon 10 months ago
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@flygweilo In my opinion his C.G was off, an improper weight distribution could do that.
incheon 10 months ago
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@flygweilo Not without a CAA Aerodrome Licence they dont! Think the co-pilot got a bit carried away with the Throttles. Makes for good entertainment though.
floydman1 11 months ago
You can hear car alarms.
CaptainWatson234 11 months ago
With all the now fighters out i think this was ahead of it time it could be flying now
Barr300 11 months ago
With all the now fighters out i think this was ahead of it time it could be flying now
Barr300 11 months ago
Just did a bit of reading about this incident. The pilot was 70 years old, having last flown a victor in the early 80s.
This was planned as a slow taxi run and the co-pilot somehow accidentally set the throttles to the stoppers. Neither had a pilots licence at the time.
Just goes to show, you get old and think youre losing it, but its there if you really need it.
gnark1ll1us 11 months ago 19
That is an amazing clip and quite scarey as It looks like he landed back on the grass, as for stopping ....looked like he was going to end up in the woods....quite amazing is all I can say!!!!
PATWENTY8R 1 year ago
Just listen to all those car alarms going off!
bullseatpizza 1 year ago
Well, that will be remembered, and talked about for a long time! Those pilots are probably the stuff of legend, by now!
jonesy97 1 year ago
impressive... thought for one moment it was going to dive into the soil , well caught pilot . nice video. i have just uploaded the elvington airfields victor doing the same high speed taxi down the strip near York Oct 2010 have a look
anth69y 1 year ago
Now that is pretty incredible. Loved the sound of it setting all the car alarms off. Thanks for upload.
Hanglands 1 year ago
If you're going to spend hundreds of dollars or pounds in this case, just for a high speed taxiing, then you might as well let the old girl take to the air and get your money's worth. Screw the political correctness or should that be nearsightedness of Govenment Departments who can't see beyond so called "regulations". Stuff em all!!
bushranger51 1 year ago 3
She wanted to fly again, just one single time and she did (=
bmwman87 1 year ago
This is just me, but I'd've left the flaps up and deployed spoilers (if so equipped). Any pilot wil tell you, during high-speed taxis, ALWAYS be mentally prepared to fly. It can happen...and did. This was a heart-stopper, considering only 5 remain. Good recovery, they saved it.
SenorSpode 1 year ago
Amazing..The Victor is one of my favourite British military Aircraft..Obviously this bird wants too fly again..Perhaps one day. Problem is if they can't get that Vulcan in the air for very long because of the recession, I feel the Victor may take some time yet..Fingers cross though,i would love too see one in the environment she was built for.
canadiantimberwolf1 1 year ago
@kook2222 Trust me- you represent NO threat to me. Looking at your anti British comments elsewhere you just seemto have "a problem" - full stop. Your other comments seem to all about Vietnam as well? I think you just have a problem and I'll leave it at that - your comments can be viewed by the whole internet - they can make their mind up. SUCKER.
george385 1 year ago
@kook2222 You come across as a proper wanker - been looking up your comments all over youtube and you clearly dont know jack-shit about anything.
george385 1 year ago
Good flying skills, just goes to show habits die hard.
trespire 1 year ago
fly old girl, however and whenever you can.
howden123456 1 year ago
wtf just happened!
rjdas97 1 year ago
are they still in service ???
skateguy9758 1 year ago
@skateguy9758
No, they are long retired. After the first gulf war I think. That was the tanker variant. That one is in taxi-able condition but not certified as airworthy.
imissbritishleyland 1 year ago
lol should commit to take off after V1!
zoomer325 1 year ago
It's WRONG that we ground beautiful icons like this which represent the 'Great' in the Great Britian..!! Personally, my heart LEPT for joy at seeing this beauty take to the air - a big UP YOURS to the Criminals Against Aviation (CAA) and their namby pamby frikin rules..!! Stuff em - were i at the controls of this bomber i know which two targets i'd have lined up in my sights, offices in London and Gatwick..!! European Health & Safety & political frikin correctness - Huh..!
Deac505 1 year ago 44
@Deac505 totally agree, we are fast becoming strangles by h&s etc. our local airfield in Shropshire is no longer allowed to put on an air show. Ludicrous, well done for your comment. TMFW
themanfromwem 11 months ago
@Deac505 When you Brits get tired of the asinine domestic tyranny, put NIGEL FARAGE into office and make sure the Parliament is crammed full of UKIP candidates. A Parliament led by Farage would clean out the U.K.'s own Augean Stables!
If *I* were at the controls of that bomber, I'd have bombed the Rothschilds into extinction and the Bank of England. The rest of the bloody busybodies would collapse in short order.
InfiniteMushroom 11 months ago
what was the damage? but nice movie, spectacular
delijn57th 1 year ago
so it wasn't supposed to take off?
Pilotsofer 1 year ago
Ive heard that they are restoring a victor to flying condition from duxford!!! :)
CaptainTattyBoJangle 1 year ago
@CaptainTattyBoJangle I've seen it there and it's not being restored... Maybe when I wasn't there but definitely nobody working on it..
Taz1451 1 year ago
@CaptainTattyBoJangle It is being restored, but not to be flown or indeed taxied.
She was outside for many many years and needs some considerable restoration. Along with their Shackleton.
Hihonyr8811 1 year ago
If nothing else, that's a gently extended finger in the direction of the CAA who said she'd never fly again. Well caught, sir!
bebajoro77 1 year ago 4
when will they restore this beauty like they did the vulcan????
M374EVL 1 year ago 2
Reading all these comments.... fast taxi with those flaps ?? anyway good for them, it still flies and hats off to the crew that maintains it. Brilliant plane
Youngwessex 1 year ago
if he didn't intend to take off why the flaps set?
minenu11 1 year ago
it's an interesting story. it was to be just a slow taxi. the Pilot Mr Bob Prothero had last flew the Victor in the 1980s, but at 70 years old he had not had a pilots lic. for years. the case was the co-pilot hitting full throttle by accident. The pilot said it was 'the most terrifying nine seconds of my life'. The name of the plane was "Teasin' Tina", and the plane would normally use drag chutes to slow down. The co-pilot was an engineer who worked on the jet, and not a pilot.
weaponeer 1 year ago
Unknown circumstance, weather diversity, local conditions, I would speculate, would all contribute to the 'exclusion of plan' as evidenced this day.
twinstu50 1 year ago
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A big 'Up Yours' to the CAA and their STUPID NANNY-STATE rules. Glad you're all enjoying your JOBS that writing the IDIOTIC and national pride killing rules keeps you in. Shame on YOU. These aircraft are maintained and operated by people with more LOVE AND DEDICATION than any of you buraucrats would even know how to measure. These wonderful machines present what WAS the 'Great' in our Britian title. I think John Beachy Head should SLAM PAST THE caa offices in a Lightning and WAKE YOU PEOPLE UP!
Deac505 1 year ago
damn hope he managed too stop in time even tho tha runway is very long
charlieiscool1000 1 year ago
'Fast Taxi'?? 'Fast' taxing is for flight test programs and do not include ROTATING THE AIRCRAFT. (They also do not include take off flaps to my knowledge) Something very fishy about that story.
greatbigdane 1 year ago
'Fast Taxi'?? 'Fast' taxing is for flight test programs and do not include ROTATING THE AIRCRAFT. (They also do not include take off flaps to my knowledge) Something very fishy about that story.
greatbigdane 1 year ago
Pilot's ERROR! Slightly the Victor went up and stear to the left landed on the glass then stalled, after landing again the pilot tries to stop the aircraft from going into the trees.
SR71ABCD 1 year ago
what happened? it seems that the plane lost power
esdraspqd35 1 year ago
fuck! very very lucky
TheMrDobbins 1 year ago
I don't get it? If it wasn't supposed to be flying then why was it charging down the runway??
BROOKS39 1 year ago
@BROOKS39
it's called a fast-taxi. you may notice that alot of aircraft not permitted to fly in the UK are displayed in fast-taxi mode - or as you put it - charging down the runway - to display them live and running....without actually taking to the sky. A little more research would have had you realising this.
juzzi07 1 year ago
The plane was just doing a "Fast Taxi" and the wind pulled the aircraft up, the aircraft has no permit to fly
Dangerousbuzz934 1 year ago
cross wind was da problem, if they had a run way which would launch the plane into the wind
barbecuedcat 1 year ago
NICE KEEP IT UP.....
AIRANORAK 2 years ago
defenetly a good pilot now this plane looks like it had enough airspeed [from the angle of other videos i have watched of this mishap] to have continued flight with the engines at full power untill at a safe minimun airspeed and then done a circuit or selected a proper runway to land but maybe this aircraft did not have enough fuel onboard to complete these short flights so then this immediate landing was then the only alternative
bernard240vdc 2 years ago
what are you talking about there are no remaining victors unfortuanately which are airworthy,because of the lack of mandatory spare parts engines undercarriage etc, the pilot was being totaly irrisponsable , mishap the bloody nose was pulled up ,no flaps no parachute was deployed. Lusty linda at elvington has done many taxi runs the last one reached i believe 130 knots take off speed ,did it take off no because the pilot was and is a professional
5515terminator 2 years ago
@5515terminator what are YOU talking about!! there were no flaps deployed because it wasnt MEANT to take-off, flaps induce lift you monkey, the nose is lifted off the ground on many taxi-only aircraft as part of the show. there was an inquiry into this incident, it was just the copilot freezing at the throttles and a gust. so you may wish to check your facts and not slag off the pilot who was a former RAF pilot who flew the type operationally, you cant get more professional than that!!
Splendid3255 2 years ago
'Should he be doing that?'(1:07)____Mega comment...
mogwai1983 2 years ago 32
@mogwai1983 the co-pilot forgot to adjust the throttle so the pilot took his hands off the controls to do it and lost control.
domjudge03 2 years ago
They should have just took it off and flown a normal approach back at the airport. That could have been very dangerous. It looked like a very hard touchdown on the left side, both wingtips almost too. Who cares if they would of been fined and charged. I guess It does not matter though as they made back to the ground ok. They should just license the Victor to fly.
BusterBunker 2 years ago
go read what actually happened before you comment and try to act a smart ass when you just made yourself look like a total idiot
TomsMultiMedia 2 years ago
What actually happened, Well, The FO never decreased throttle and they approached takeoff speed with flaps and wind. Both of those will cause the aircraft to takeoff. So yes, Fuck you. Do you have any Idea how dangerous is to land on the grass like that. That is not normal at all and is considered very dangerous. If the airplane can do high speed taxis, I'm sure all of its systems work in the event of an emergency like that. They are lucky those gear didn't give out and that wing didn't snap.
BusterBunker 2 years ago
I also forgot, your the one acting like a SMARTASS. Why don't you inform everyone leaving comments on this video if you know so much. From what I've read, That is pretty much what happened. There are also people on here who agree with and disagree and I'm ok with that as long they don't leave me BS comments that have no info in them or you can't back up.
BusterBunker 2 years ago
Noob
Grillzor 2 years ago
If they had done that then it would have been ever more dangerous, the last time this aircraft flew was the mid 80's I think, that means there is probly alot of corrosion on this aircraft so for all they know, if they had flown it on a normal approach, there would have been a very high chance of the wing breaking off or something like that so its a good job they didnt.
Jord121995 2 years ago
I don't know about the wings falling off. That was a pretty hard landing and there was no damage. It looks like it could have made a go-around and been fine.
miked860 2 years ago
Well, maybe I am being a bit dramatic with the wings falling off but this victor hasnt flown for 30 od years I think, and wasnt meant to fly here so anything could have happend. Expect anything from an un airworthy aircraft in the air. I understand you saying that they should have done a normal approach because it would have been really nice to see a victor fly again.
Jord121995 2 years ago
I take it you are both a pilot and an aeronautical engineer? The sad fact is that both the Vulcan and Victor are items of the past, both should be in museums.
MrGrumpybugger 1 year ago
@MrGrumpybugger
The Vulcan and Victor may well be items of the past, but displaying them in working order is the only way to show the children of the future how these machines functioned and what they looked like in their natural environment.
I would rather see 1 flying Vulcan than 100 mounted and stuffed in a museum
EEWW2006 1 year ago
@EEWW2006 Your argument would mean we have a Dreadnought and HMS Belfast under full steam! Watching the Vulcan stagger around is a tragedy, it is not stressed nor allowed to perform as it once did. Stop thropwing good money after bad, shut down the engines, or let a very rich person offshore take them away and fly them(Thunder City perhaps).
MrGrumpybugger 1 year ago
@MrGrumpybugger
Ill tell you what then, lets just say Sod the lot of them & cut all the historic items up and turn them into cat food tins.
Should we do the same to a steam locomotive from the 1900's. It happily spends it's retirement chuffing up & down what could be described as a small branch line tugging a few old coaches behind it. It is there as a demonstration on how things used to be. The Vulcan is the same. Let it fly while it can & let people watch in wonder :)
EEWW2006 1 year ago
@EEWW2006 Big, big difference between a steam engine and a very,very complex type old chum! The cost and manhours involved between the two are disproportionate. Your diatribe shows a childish spite which I am sure you do not intend, let everyone see these machines, even let the engines burn but stop messing about in the air. You need to have funding without worry to operate these, where do you stop, a C130K in the BoB flight? Get real old boy!
MrGrumpybugger 1 year ago
@MrGrumpybugger
Having served in the Royal Air Force & worked on more modern aircraft (Tornado ,Harrier GR5&7 & of course the mighty cat (Jag) I totally understand exactly how much work goes into maintaining an operational aircraft never mind a preserved one however going by your argument you would ground the Sally-B & of course the BBMF as it costs too much. They say "Lest we forget" & should these machines be grounded, it wont be long before people do.
EEWW2006 1 year ago
@EEWW2006 I too have been associated with aircraft for most of my adult life and it is not only a case of 2nd and 3rd line, but to fly a complex type, needs the manufacturer, (OEM) to endorse and underwrite the platform. A large jet falls into this category, but it menas manhours, in this case BAE,,,,who pays for those? And Sally is not a good example, it is self sustaining financially and not a complex type. BBMF should also not be part of the defence budget!
MrGrumpybugger 1 year ago
@MrGrumpybugger Unfortunatly, that is why Concorde will never fly again as Airbus no longer support it. It would appear that the Vulcan is now getting to the point where it is self sustaining. When an 8 minute display at an airshow costs around £30k (£8k of that is fuel) & they have boxes of spares to play with, this machine will be airworthy for many years to come with or without BAE's help. BBMF MUST remain part of the MoD. I would not like our aviation heritage to go to private owners
EEWW2006 1 year ago
@EEWW2006 My eldest two boys are and have both been on two Telic and coming up 3 Herrick ops, and even though I was part of the military machine myself, I have severe doubts about the BBMF and Red Arrows cavorting when our chaps are fighting for their lives! All mil involvement in airshows should be stopped until the fighting has ceased, if not out of respect, at least to save money! Private owners, by the way, have more time and resource than you give them credit for!
MrGrumpybugger 1 year ago
@MrGrumpybugger From a personal point of view (if you want to get into a pissing contest) I was on Op Granby, attached to the US on Op Provide Comfort 1, Op Deny Flight & Deliberate Force in Former Yugo. Thats beside the point though, I am in agreement on the Arrows, they ponce off to Cyprus while others are sweating blood in the skies of Afghanistan, however they are a good recruiting tool. In no way am I disrespecting private owners however some items should & must be protected by the state.
EEWW2006 1 year ago
@EEWW2006 Indeed, I wish no game of mine is bigger than yours! The Red Arrows should be mothballed with immediate effect, as good as they are, it is just so disrespectful for them to continue. As for national treasures, well the state looks after our aircraft heritage quite well in the guise of the FAA Museum, RAF Museum and IWM...the Vulcan, alas is too expensive and quite a waste of money, as good as it is to see in the sky, it is time for bed said zeberdee!
MrGrumpybugger 1 year ago
@MrGrumpybugger We are going to have to agree to disagree then I'm afraid. All museums do marvellous work, even down to the Tower museums on the old USAAF fields in Norfolk & Suffolk. Shame we can't manage to get a Lightning or two on the display circuit :) now that would be a sight to show the younger ones!
EEWW2006 1 year ago 2
@EEWW2006 I have no qqualms about private owners using money to fly old types, indeed I owned and flew a SNJ for many years, it was an expensive joy (60 gallons of 100LL per hour fully lean) but I didnt use taxpayers money. The Lightning will never get a AOC and CofA purely because it is a compex Mach2 platform, mind you plenty of Hunters are sonic in a dive. Point is, where would you stop?
MrGrumpybugger 1 year ago
@EEWW2006 You could ask whatsisface from South Africa to bring one his up to the UK for a summer's season!
edj66 1 year ago
@MrGrumpybugger i disagree sorry, the Vulcan played a Very important role through the cold war, acting as a deterrant and also a nuclear weapons platform to deliver should that even have unfolded, its part of the British Aviation heritage and should be proud to fly the British Flag at airshows, it has a story to tell to the younger generations ! :))
smileymike100 1 year ago
@MrGrumpybugger Who are the Red Arrows disrespectful to? And I'm going to disagree that the Vulcan is a waste of money. It might not be 'economical' in a completely objective sense, but the pleasure and joy it brings to people who go to see it are easily worth the expense. The Red Arrows are the same. They are a fantastic advertisement for the RAF, they are a pleasure to watch, and make people proud of their country. There's precious little that does at the moment!
edj66 1 year ago
@MrGrumpybugger I disagree with your statement about BBMF and the Red Arrows, because they are not just an inspiration and recruitment tool. They are mostly to honour are veterans from the past and to support our troops that are still out there. With no airshows, our aviation heritage would destroy itself, just like Canada are doing. I'm from England but I now live in Canada and have watched how they are slowly destroying their history.
oxlade1 1 year ago
they still work ok then lol, nice.
bazman85 2 years ago
What a heart stopping video,I cannot beleive it was a fast taxi run come take off!!!,phew I bet he needed a change of underwear?.
kellyandpealee 2 years ago
what actually happened how did he manage tht
freakycfc09 2 years ago
wht happened
freakycfc09 2 years ago
Never drink and fly!
shitmypants119 2 years ago
That... was scary! I can't believe he got that back - fantastic job.
slammerf16 2 years ago
Nice to see her in the air again. Even just for a few seconds. :)
Mthtmty 2 years ago 4
ha ha
clmjj 2 years ago
My hearty congratulations to the fellow who brought her down again!
pcjoel999 2 years ago
um...so what?
dahmered 2 years ago
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wtf, I went to voypics and saw this video.
dedrickpatsmart 2 years ago
i wonder if she had enough fuel to make a circuit and land again if it was not possible for it to get down safely.
sonnysingh03 2 years ago
good point if she has got fuel to get into trouble she should have enough to get out of it
avpinstarter 2 years ago
ah ahaha nicely said!
sonnysingh03 2 years ago
Way a go!! Fly girl fly....
ay76 2 years ago
i think the repair bill to get it back airworthy again will have increased few quid after that landing
rossy2525 2 years ago
I don't get it, a group of volunteers can build a 4-6-2 steam engine from scratch but we can't find someone to get the Victor & Valiant flying again.
Surely it can't be THAT difficult?
Ok, so maybe not the only Valiant left but surely this Victor?
theredraven 2 years ago
The naivety of people makes me smile. It is VERY hard. With the money, it's fine - it's finding the money.
It Vulcan has struggled - it is a more popular aircraft than the Victor and came with 600 tonnes of spares. This doesn't.
qwertdr 2 years ago