@xjordan14 his look is nothing like kenta's nor do they dress the same, have the same hairstyle, the only thing that he stole was the gts and he didn't really steal it because hes using the move as a homage to KENTA
I think he's a pretty damn good wrestler. he's no KENTA, but his indy work was incredible, and his heel promos were great. Even though his move set is extremely toned down in wwe he is still making the most of it and his matches aren't bad.
It's no wonder KENTAs Go 2 Sleep looks better, I mean Punk is in WWE, you hosetly think that a KENTA like Go 2 Sleep is even allowed there?
As far as talent goes, I thin that Punk and KENTA are about matched and if KENTA has no problem with Punk using the GTS, what's the big deal? (Even though Pepsi Plunge as a big match finisher would be nice^^)
You have a good poit there. Punk & KENTA are my 2 favorite wrestlers (KENTA: fave japanese; Punk: all-time) & i think that they would be evenly matched, seeing as Punk has the G2S & the Kenta Rush plus he has a huge moveset of his own.
I think the GTS has looked good and bad from both guys. It's really up to the person taking it t seel it good, so KENTA's usually comes out better because of the quality of talent he faces. To the guy about the 450, 2 Cold Scorpio is how should be credited with that bcause he innovated it. Hayabusa only innovated the Phoenix Splash.
I was just telling the person who said Hayabusa invented the 450 and the Phoenix Splash that he was only half right. I know Hayabusa invented more moves than just the Phoenix Splash. I believe the Falcon's Arrow is one of them.
too cold scorpio invented the 450.hayabusa started using when he saw scorpio hit him with it.since he did want use the 450 to often he invented the phoenix splash.
Punk's looks better? You're honestly sitting there believeing that CM Punk's little WWE powderpuff "GTS" 'looks better' then KENTA's stiff, brutal Go 2 Sleep?
Forgive me for speaking heresy against Fire Pro, but I finally figured out what bothers me about this game.
The selling feels weird. Guys pop up and grapple at the same speed 30 minutes in as they do 3 minutes in. Guys need to slow down and show more damage as they get beat-up.
F**K HIM UP KENTA !!F**K HIM UP !! F**K HIM UP KENTA F**K HIM UP !! Punk is such a WWE bum bandit now for trying to steal Kenta's moveset. Punk sold out, simple factsing.
Yeah ur right I'm not jumping on them why cause CM Punk has/had great potential he was a great indy wrestler that brought something fresh and new to wrestling with his gimmick and image. He was all about the "straight edge" lifestyle and I bought into the gimmick. He claimed that he wouldn't chnge when he went to WWE, but he did and I want my money back CM P***Y. He just another WWE yes man tht got over quickly bcse of wht he has done in the pass. But stealing a "live" wrstlrs moves is wrng!!
I am not saying that wrstlrs don't influence wrstlrs moves but at lease add something to it or a variation or claim its homage, like how HHH did the crossface @ Mania It was in honor of C.Benoit. Punk totally raiding the Japan wrestlers moves set, yeah it suxs but its just that Punk does it so crap yet he's a talented guy that I wld of thght he could of cme up with smethng new/fresh as a finish. If he added G2S to he's moveset but not as a finish I wldn't mind.
Benoit never mentioned that he was homaging the inventor of the Crossface (the innovation of which is credited to Dean Malenko), Bret Hart never credited Riki Choshu for blatantly stealing his scorpion deathlock, nor did Steve Austin, at the start, mention he was stealing the stunner from Johnny Ace.
Wrestlers copy each other's moves all the time, without innovation.
Oh, and you missed that CM Punk stole the anaconda vise from Hiroshi Tenzan, too.
C. Benoit's flying headbutt, his style is a homage to the Dynamite Kid. Evry1 knws tht no ? But was the D.Kid wrestling at the time ? Don't get me ? wrng I use 2 like Punk, but wht urks me is mainly 1. He does it so bad, with a lil twist or variation on the theme. Like in a dream if KENTA came to WWE would they let KENTA still do the G2S ?
I knw wrstlrs can be influenced/steal/copy other wrstlrs moves it use 2 happen 2 Nova all the time. I jst "FEEL" tht Punk is so talented he could cme up with his own sh1t11
As for Punk, let's not forget that his original finisher was a pedigree from the top rope.
He's NEVER been a source of original finishing moves. There are innovators in the Western Indies, but most of the moves you think are innovative were probably invented in Japan or Mexico.
Japan's Dragon Gate -- their own ROH in terms of placing, style and level of popularity -- is probably the big home of innovation these days.
I'd say HHH & Michaels used/use the crossface for two reasons, neither are a tribute to Benoit.
1) Because they're trying to put it over as a 'special' near-tap submission spot for bigger matches.
2) The hope that by using the move amongst multple guys, it loses its association with 'that murderer' and becomes either a) a transitional watered down move (ie. what happened to the DDT), or it can be built up to be a future wrestlers finisher/signature.
I know that everyone wants to forget that he existed, but the man had friends who still think well of him.
Chris Jericho, for example, has basically written off the last few days of Benoit's life as a period he can never understand and 'not the Benoit I know'.
Randy Orton, even after he knew what had happened, clearly still felt strongly for him (he used the sharpshooter and looked up at the sky, saying 'why' going against instructions).
because it's cartoonish it doesnt need much work. do you understand? lol get wwe to create a barbed wire match. they have to actually take sample from wrestlers who wear those green balls on their body.
although this game has one of the best gameplay for a wrestling game, but it looks like its from 1991.why cant they just make it look more realistic well at least like smackdown just bring it then it would be an awesome game with good g'play and graphics
i have it, it is fun but is odd to learn if your used to other wrestling alot of timeing involved instead of being counter city like most wrestling games it is all most built so you have to take hits and you have to be careful also it isn't really freindly to highfliers it takes a lot of skill to do RVD stuff even
Nice match, but I think it'd be a lot closer a match then some people think. Also, I respect the utter heck outta KENTA, but I gotta go with Punk to beat or at least come REALLY close to beating KENTA.
this game rox and i think KENTA can beat Punk in real life in the WWE ring and really show Punk how to "Go to Sleep" is really done its my opinion but i want to know what you guys think?
No he isnt, Cm Punk's moves in the indies are mostly finisher moves that are in the WWE like the shining wizard, Pepsi plunge and ect. Cm Punk's favorite wrestler is KENTA and KENTA had a really good moveset that can be used in WWE so Cm Punk asked KENTA could he use his moveset and KENTA said yes. Now WWE wrestling has completely different wrestling then NOAH or ROH because they're worrying about injuries but if Cm Punk used KENTA's moveset in ROH then he would have done the moves better.
i remember when i had this for computer i created every wwe and ecw superstar i no off i creat cm punk the rock triple h stone cold sabu hey are you playing this on your pc or on ps2
Woah, you replied within the minute, heh...Bored enough to chat on a messenger? My handles/names are on my user page (click my name, top left corner).
I do take requests, but I prefer not to use the same wrestlers too often. I've used AJ twice, and Petey once already. For the videos that wouldn't fit on YouTube, check out my dailymotion account. It has all this and more (dailymotion[DOT]com[SLASH]WrestlingSwami)
Since it was made for Japan, its almost all japanese wrestlers. Very few Americans are in. Sabu, AJ Styles, Petey Williams, and a few U.S. legends are in, and the others you have to make.
Thanks for uploading the match. It was pretty good, but I was hoping for at least one G2S. I might have to sim this one after I tweak KENTA's and Punk's logic.
The greatest wrestling video game EVER!!!!!
revsyz 8 months ago
which one is which lol
fartspiggy66 9 months ago
CM punk stole KENTAS whole gimick except for the strait edge part he stole his look bassicaly
xjordan14 1 year ago
@xjordan14 CM Punk just started using the GTS and the Kenta Rush, that's it.
Great0ne1 1 year ago
@xjordan14 his look is nothing like kenta's nor do they dress the same, have the same hairstyle, the only thing that he stole was the gts and he didn't really steal it because hes using the move as a homage to KENTA
TheWrestlerNation 1 year ago
how come these two keep holding hands and leaning in???
m4dm3th0d 2 years ago
What's complete name of this videogame?
DJTOTOBIT 2 years ago
fire pro wrestling
unab12 2 years ago
fire pro wrestling returns
lastofmygeneration 2 years ago
CM Punk copied the go 2 sleep and the KENTA Rush from KENTA. not to say that cm punk is a bad wrestler but i thought i would point it out
freakystyleymofo 2 years ago
I think he's a pretty damn good wrestler. he's no KENTA, but his indy work was incredible, and his heel promos were great. Even though his move set is extremely toned down in wwe he is still making the most of it and his matches aren't bad.
Scorekid100 2 years ago
Heh KENTA didn't even need his finisher to put Punk away.
Phoenix7786 2 years ago
It's no wonder KENTAs Go 2 Sleep looks better, I mean Punk is in WWE, you hosetly think that a KENTA like Go 2 Sleep is even allowed there?
As far as talent goes, I thin that Punk and KENTA are about matched and if KENTA has no problem with Punk using the GTS, what's the big deal? (Even though Pepsi Plunge as a big match finisher would be nice^^)
Ashbringer72 3 years ago 6
yeah i agree with what you're saying
Tical0100 3 years ago
You have a good poit there. Punk & KENTA are my 2 favorite wrestlers (KENTA: fave japanese; Punk: all-time) & i think that they would be evenly matched, seeing as Punk has the G2S & the Kenta Rush plus he has a huge moveset of his own.
TheLegendKiller888 2 years ago
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punk is better, sucker !
hexenmeister3 3 years ago
what game is this
Djworld99 3 years ago
It's called Fire Pro Wrestling Returns
Warlord313 3 years ago
I think the GTS has looked good and bad from both guys. It's really up to the person taking it t seel it good, so KENTA's usually comes out better because of the quality of talent he faces. To the guy about the 450, 2 Cold Scorpio is how should be credited with that bcause he innovated it. Hayabusa only innovated the Phoenix Splash.
zrich5 3 years ago
didn't Hayabusa also invent the Falcon's Arrow?
AMF4 3 years ago
I was just telling the person who said Hayabusa invented the 450 and the Phoenix Splash that he was only half right. I know Hayabusa invented more moves than just the Phoenix Splash. I believe the Falcon's Arrow is one of them.
zrich5 3 years ago
thanks but no no I wasn't trying to start an arguement or anything just curious is all ya know
AMF4 3 years ago
Yeah, I know. I was just clarifying my original post for you. Reading it back, I can barely understand what I was saying, haha.
zrich5 3 years ago
oh ok s'all good
AMF4 3 years ago
too cold scorpio invented the 450.hayabusa started using when he saw scorpio hit him with it.since he did want use the 450 to often he invented the phoenix splash.
charonspass 2 years ago
what game
DaVeYrOkS 3 years ago
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even though kenta envented the gts, i believe punks is better, but there both fake, just punks looks better
sporkdude37 3 years ago
Punk's looks better? You're honestly sitting there believeing that CM Punk's little WWE powderpuff "GTS" 'looks better' then KENTA's stiff, brutal Go 2 Sleep?
DaReelDeal 3 years ago 2
fuck...
i thought i will see 2 kind of GTS
momokagemo 3 years ago
Swami, will you hook me up with these edits?
DXDGENERATE 3 years ago
cm punk should have just stook with the anoconda vice sorry if i spelled it wrong but kenta is better than cm punk
SmackdownVsRaw10 3 years ago 2
Forgive me for speaking heresy against Fire Pro, but I finally figured out what bothers me about this game.
The selling feels weird. Guys pop up and grapple at the same speed 30 minutes in as they do 3 minutes in. Guys need to slow down and show more damage as they get beat-up.
EGarrett01 3 years ago 3
I have these two ever wrestled each other in real life?
hotcarl315 3 years ago
No but they are good friends.
tjmack010 3 years ago
F**K HIM UP KENTA !!F**K HIM UP !! F**K HIM UP KENTA F**K HIM UP !! Punk is such a WWE bum bandit now for trying to steal Kenta's moveset. Punk sold out, simple factsing.
KUNGLO 3 years ago
You know, its really stupid that you can just call CM a "bum bandit" simply because he uses some of the same moves as KENTA.
There are a lot of other wrestlers in the world who uses moves that other people are already using and you not jumping all over them?
TheAman2008 3 years ago
Yeah ur right I'm not jumping on them why cause CM Punk has/had great potential he was a great indy wrestler that brought something fresh and new to wrestling with his gimmick and image. He was all about the "straight edge" lifestyle and I bought into the gimmick. He claimed that he wouldn't chnge when he went to WWE, but he did and I want my money back CM P***Y. He just another WWE yes man tht got over quickly bcse of wht he has done in the pass. But stealing a "live" wrstlrs moves is wrng!!
KUNGLO 3 years ago
I am not saying that wrstlrs don't influence wrstlrs moves but at lease add something to it or a variation or claim its homage, like how HHH did the crossface @ Mania It was in honor of C.Benoit. Punk totally raiding the Japan wrestlers moves set, yeah it suxs but its just that Punk does it so crap yet he's a talented guy that I wld of thght he could of cme up with smethng new/fresh as a finish. If he added G2S to he's moveset but not as a finish I wldn't mind.
KUNGLO 3 years ago
Benoit never mentioned that he was homaging the inventor of the Crossface (the innovation of which is credited to Dean Malenko), Bret Hart never credited Riki Choshu for blatantly stealing his scorpion deathlock, nor did Steve Austin, at the start, mention he was stealing the stunner from Johnny Ace.
Wrestlers copy each other's moves all the time, without innovation.
Oh, and you missed that CM Punk stole the anaconda vise from Hiroshi Tenzan, too.
iamthedave3 3 years ago
C. Benoit's flying headbutt, his style is a homage to the Dynamite Kid. Evry1 knws tht no ? But was the D.Kid wrestling at the time ? Don't get me ? wrng I use 2 like Punk, but wht urks me is mainly 1. He does it so bad, with a lil twist or variation on the theme. Like in a dream if KENTA came to WWE would they let KENTA still do the G2S ?
KUNGLO 3 years ago
PART 2 SORRY
I knw wrstlrs can be influenced/steal/copy other wrstlrs moves it use 2 happen 2 Nova all the time. I jst "FEEL" tht Punk is so talented he could cme up with his own sh1t11
OH YEAH MAIN POINT THIS GAME IS GREAT !!!!
Now go kick my CM Punk CAW with LOWKI HEHE !!!
KUNGLO 3 years ago
you know for the longest time i assumed he borrowed the move from mikey whipwreck, i know he took the beer angle from sandman.
Ill add that no one to my knowledge ever acredited hayabusa for the 450/phenoix 450.
MonTag666 3 years ago
Not to my knowledge, either.
As for Punk, let's not forget that his original finisher was a pedigree from the top rope.
He's NEVER been a source of original finishing moves. There are innovators in the Western Indies, but most of the moves you think are innovative were probably invented in Japan or Mexico.
Japan's Dragon Gate -- their own ROH in terms of placing, style and level of popularity -- is probably the big home of innovation these days.
iamthedave3 3 years ago
Bret mentions on his dvd that he was aware of the move from his time in japan. Konan, of all people, was the guy who taught him how to apply it,.
aeonlinear 2 years ago
I'd say HHH & Michaels used/use the crossface for two reasons, neither are a tribute to Benoit.
1) Because they're trying to put it over as a 'special' near-tap submission spot for bigger matches.
2) The hope that by using the move amongst multple guys, it loses its association with 'that murderer' and becomes either a) a transitional watered down move (ie. what happened to the DDT), or it can be built up to be a future wrestlers finisher/signature.
Pity HHH etc apply it like Cena does an STF
aeonlinear 2 years ago
It could well be a tribute to Benoit.
I know that everyone wants to forget that he existed, but the man had friends who still think well of him.
Chris Jericho, for example, has basically written off the last few days of Benoit's life as a period he can never understand and 'not the Benoit I know'.
Randy Orton, even after he knew what had happened, clearly still felt strongly for him (he used the sharpshooter and looked up at the sky, saying 'why' going against instructions).
iamthedave3 2 years ago
real nice sound.
whitekimbo 3 years ago
Sick match
SkizZZyXX 4 years ago
What number head did u use for punk?
wrestlinggrimreaper 4 years ago
why is this game shortened as fpr when its supposed to be fpW as in fire pro WRESTLING
rmadfan 4 years ago
Because rmadfan It Stands For Fire Pro Returns
mrcrackerboy 4 years ago
whay does all the games with awesome gameplay come in shitty graphics i mean looka at this gam , look at pro evo soccer the graphics suck
rmadfan 4 years ago
because it's cartoonish it doesnt need much work. do you understand? lol get wwe to create a barbed wire match. they have to actually take sample from wrestlers who wear those green balls on their body.
spanishskin 4 years ago
although this game has one of the best gameplay for a wrestling game, but it looks like its from 1991.why cant they just make it look more realistic well at least like smackdown just bring it then it would be an awesome game with good g'play and graphics
rmadfan 4 years ago
Because with the graphics like that it don't take as much room so you can have more wrestlers.
lasectadelmesias08 4 years ago 2
wtf is this game?
magerules231 4 years ago
Fire Pro Wrestling: Returns. One of the BEST wrestling games PERIOD. Buy it. It's only $20.
Thewwekiller 3 years ago
everyone lets all compare this game to svr 2008
noobzezima 4 years ago
yeah this is overrated.
ju326 3 years ago
you got the Punk formula?
Dannypuck 4 years ago
Can you climb the turnbuckle in this game?
superbeast91 4 years ago
yea press towards it n sqaure
treylin 4 years ago
this game is fun,and lol I noticed today sting and the other WcW stars are already made but with diff names.
JeffNeroHardyV2 4 years ago
what # head are you using for Punk ?
volcanicstar 4 years ago
the match should of finished with a go 2 sleep
blackcrunchy1212 4 years ago
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with out kenta punk would be nothing
can149 4 years ago
bite me
jamesthera 4 years ago
the finish woulda been cooler with a Tiger suplex pin instead of a german
jl0 4 years ago
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wut system is this shit
quionq 4 years ago
It's PS2, and this happens to be a damn good game. Just because it's not in 3-D, doesn't mean it's not good.
DeadZoneHALO 4 years ago
i have it, it is fun but is odd to learn if your used to other wrestling alot of timeing involved instead of being counter city like most wrestling games it is all most built so you have to take hits and you have to be careful also it isn't really freindly to highfliers it takes a lot of skill to do RVD stuff even
2plus2eguals4 4 years ago
how did you not do a gts for the finish of the match? c'mon!
natazrahn 4 years ago
They were both computer players.
DeadZoneHALO 4 years ago
Nice match, but I think it'd be a lot closer a match then some people think. Also, I respect the utter heck outta KENTA, but I gotta go with Punk to beat or at least come REALLY close to beating KENTA.
Jyger85 4 years ago
this game rox and i think KENTA can beat Punk in real life in the WWE ring and really show Punk how to "Go to Sleep" is really done its my opinion but i want to know what you guys think?
Mutoh3ll 4 years ago
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you know wrestling is scripted right?
ItsVicta 4 years ago
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punk in the wwe is a kenta rip off.I think the wwe wanted him to be that way.
reallylazzy 4 years ago
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He was a KENTA rip off before his WWE days.
PresidentRich 4 years ago
No he isnt, Cm Punk's moves in the indies are mostly finisher moves that are in the WWE like the shining wizard, Pepsi plunge and ect. Cm Punk's favorite wrestler is KENTA and KENTA had a really good moveset that can be used in WWE so Cm Punk asked KENTA could he use his moveset and KENTA said yes. Now WWE wrestling has completely different wrestling then NOAH or ROH because they're worrying about injuries but if Cm Punk used KENTA's moveset in ROH then he would have done the moves better.
tjmack010 4 years ago
is ti coming to the us
555ghost 4 years ago
November 13
Hunter9113 4 years ago
sweet KENTA Combo and Busaiku Knee
KozoNakahara 4 years ago 2
what game is it?
XCasaClubX 4 years ago
Fire Pro Returns. Released in Japan back in 2005, but it's coming to the U.S. in December.
kurroptgohan 4 years ago
I'm playing this on the PS2, not illegally.
WrestlingSwami1 4 years ago
I ordered this game today. can u message me with exactly what i need to play it on my us ps2.
imjustthatdude 4 years ago
i remember when i had this for computer i created every wwe and ecw superstar i no off i creat cm punk the rock triple h stone cold sabu hey are you playing this on your pc or on ps2
rokymaivia07 4 years ago
Woah, you replied within the minute, heh...Bored enough to chat on a messenger? My handles/names are on my user page (click my name, top left corner).
WrestlingSwami1 4 years ago
cool
dhjfghdsgkafygsydfyh 4 years ago
punk looks like the older cm punk but it is still really good
dhjfghdsgkafygsydfyh 4 years ago
Like, Punk from 3 months ago? :P
That's when I recorded this, heh. It was his latest attire, the one he wore in his (then) latest appearance with the new ECW.
WrestlingSwami1 4 years ago
I do take requests, but I prefer not to use the same wrestlers too often. I've used AJ twice, and Petey once already. For the videos that wouldn't fit on YouTube, check out my dailymotion account. It has all this and more (dailymotion[DOT]com[SLASH]WrestlingSwami)
WrestlingSwami1 4 years ago
Since it was made for Japan, its almost all japanese wrestlers. Very few Americans are in. Sabu, AJ Styles, Petey Williams, and a few U.S. legends are in, and the others you have to make.
WrestlingSwami1 4 years ago
Nice. What wrestlers are on this game? Is it japan only or does it have any indy wrestlers in it?
neonspec 4 years ago
Fi-Pro Returns, AKA Fire Pro Wrestling R. Released only in Japan. You need a modified or Japanese PS2 to play it.
WrestlingSwami1 4 years ago
what game is this
ricane89 4 years ago
Thanks for uploading the match. It was pretty good, but I was hoping for at least one G2S. I might have to sim this one after I tweak KENTA's and Punk's logic.
74GD 4 years ago