The problem of course being that it can't do that at high speeds because it would snap in half. At high speeds, even a Eurofighter is more manoeuvrable.
@franknbeans4761 Loss of speed - yes. Loss of agility? No. With 3D TVC and thrust/ weight ratio higher than 1 aircraft's nose can be pointed anywhere virtually anytime. (within logical 6-10 seconds to perform change of direction).
SU-30MKI can't raise its nose after performance of cobra maneuver for example. That's because it has not true 3D TVC and its engines thrust is lower than SU-35. SU-35 can pick up its nose vertically after cobra or after flat spin.
@BitnikGr SU-35 and SU-37 can basicly turn almost around their own axis like a helicopter, its very cool looking manouver and do supercobras when they flip over many times the cobra in a row doing 360 degree cobras 2-3 in a row.
@normison69 This is what I was explaining to the other guy. People mistake a flat spin with a turn. 360degrees turn must have sustained bunk, speed and radius. Rotation around its own vertical axis is not a turn, but a flat spin.
@BitnikGr Yes and durign the vertical axis turn your air speed drops to very very low, but still in dogfight i think its can be a good manouver instead of turning normally given the right situation.
@normison69 "given the right situation" - Exactly.
However, when Cobra maneuver was invented it was effective not only in close dogfight, but also in BVR. This was effective manouver in order to disappear from enemy's pulse-dopler radars. F.e. using this maneuver in 80s, SU-27 could launch 2 medium range AAMs against F-15 and then run away without leaving F-15 any chance to react.
But this trick doesn't work against PESA and AESA radars.
But there are plenty of fighters still equipped with pulse-dopler radar around the World. So, I bet Indian SU-30MKI can effectively use Cobra against pulse-dopler radars of all Pakistani fighters in BVR. Pakistan has F-16, JF-17, F-7, Mirage III, Mirage 5 - they all have pulse-dopler radars.
@BitnikGr Yes and durign the vertical axis turn your air speed drops to very very low, but still in dogfight i think its can be a good manouver instead of turning normally given the right situation and F-22 cannot do the vertical axis spin while SU-35 and SU-37 can, also MiG-35 can do it if im correct.
@normison69 I can't get what do you call as "vertical axis spin" exactly...
If you have a video with example to show me...
F-22 can do a flat spin, it can stand on its tail and then fall to one of its sides and it can do a kulbit (falling on back after standing on tail f.e.). But some of maneuvers can't be done so fast as on SUkhoi planes.
@BitnikGr Yes and durign the vertical axis spin your air speed drops to very very low, but still in dogfight i think its can be a good manouver instead of turning normally given the right situation and F-22 cannot do the vertical axis spin while SU-35 and SU-37 can, also MiG-35 can do it if im correct.
Too bad the jet turned out to be unworkable. With production canceled, the future is not going to see us using F22s for more then show purposes unless the #$%^ its the fan.
Yeah, F-35 multirole is very much weaker. F-22 is a freak plane, almost too good for the real world. It's overpriced due to the rampant corruption at Pentagon/contractors, a never-ending corruption since large procurements in 1980es. F-22 would be indispensable only against Russia, and it's hardly the case. Russia/India PAK/FA is good, but not as good. It comes at something like 30% the price (including their own corruption). China is testing something, I am a bit skeptical about them.
@49fiori yet on paper it looks great but in real life once the f22 is there close combat its going down just look how the russians an chinese made fun of their use_less f22 one thing i love about the russians is that they replace their equipment instead of making new airplanes,for example the US Airforce their like we need new airplanes instead of equipment like the RUSSIANS
@KrayzieBone222 to invade several countries at the same time is the final purpose for F-22A??? I thought it for selfdefence against small but quite agressive countries...:(( crazy yankee
@49fiori until air defence missiles are upgraded (most likely this decade). Remember this plane is not "invisable to radar its just harder to detect (without me going all geeky here) but no doubt if they wanted to invade today it would be enough"
@alskinso nah not really, the EU alone would be enough to completely destroy them if they even considered an invasion in any country without a damn good reason to do so....
@TheBlackIdentety no J-20 is set to come in service in 2018 by then only a handful of f-35 will be operational, so called 6th generation is atleast 20 years away.
@obsidianstatue O.K. I know I exaggerated a bit,6th gen is do between 2020-25.Also by that time the entire 2400 plane fleet should be operational of the f-35's.Some are already in service so in this respect you're greatly underestamating amerika.
Don't get me wrong,I'm no fan of amerika playing the cherif of the world but they are always a gen.ahead of anyone and that's just the publicly known tech.Black projects are up to 50 years ahead of anything we know of.
@Nikki92ful it is the air that cannot get away fast enough, so it gets compressed over the wings and therefore visible - very short explanation but that is basically what happens
@hassanoish -"it is the air that cannot get away fast enough, so it gets compressed over the wings and therefore visible - very short explanation"
And a very wrong one.
Compressed air heats up, dilating air cools down. Air above wings dilates and cools down below the air's dew point causing condensation to appear (i.e. making the air's moisture visible), hence the "clouds."
@hassanoish -"exactly what i wrote.. mine was just shorter and more precise than yours mr. air professor"
Typical asinine retort from a YouTube twit who can't admit when he's wrong.
You CLEARLY said that it was "compression" that made the air "visible," which is bullshit. You made no mention AT ALL of air moisture, low pressure and dew point (all KEY points as to what actually causes the "cloud" to appear).
Take a course in basic gas physics. You might learn a thing or two.
@kozmon0t bear in mind how fast this F-22 is traveling. If it were going slower and with use of thrust vectoring, could turn sharper, however this would result in altitude loss.
@lrusak It's well below corner speed, or the turn would have been complete in the claimed 13 seconds. I doubt it can turn any sharper with full control.
And it did lose altitude. Unless the cameraman somehow zoomed in imperceptibly.
@kozmon0t Even though they say they're showing maximum performance, demos often modify maneuvers to look "right" for the audience. As the jets go into the turn, they reduce bank in order to generate a slight climb, this way on the ground at show center, the turn looks level. As they come out of the turn, you'll notice the bank varying and hence the altitude loss.
These are beautiful planes and I love to see them fly but no human can withstand the g forces of a drone. Drones can be super fast, long loiter times, cheaper and far more deadly. Future warfare will use much more robotics. They follow orders. Are fearless. Cheaper. Need no VA. Feel no pain.
Hellenic F-16 took out the F-22 in Red Flag 2008 - oh the ignorance of some people. Only Greek pilots have achieved this feat! Don't believe me, just ask and confirm with the US Air-force.
@F17F22 Hellenic F-16 took out the F-22 in Red Flag 2008 - oh the ignorance of some people. Only Greek pilots have achieved this feat! Don't believe me, just ask and confirm with the US Air-force.
supposedly the F-22 had a 144 to zero kill/death ratio at a red flag in 2006, there is a video here somewhere. who cares how much it cost when 2 of them can take down an entire countries air defense.
Nice Body Kit, but for such a money It's better to have a TELEPORT ability. All RUSsian SU's are steps ahead better and twice cheaper, so here we have a perfect tax washing machine. Congrats! :-)))
you guys commenting on f-22 and how its game over havent seen the competiton or why the f-22 and f-35 are useless videos, when u do u will hav a different opinion i sure as hell did
@IauthenticI hav you even watched the video? im betting no or you have but ur so far up the american militaries ass that u fail to believe a bad word about them. im hoping it's its the former but i know its the latter
I've done extensive research on both aircraft. Yes, they are overpriced and chosen out of political corruption and yes both have, will have and had plenty of problems. Problems as any other aircraft programs would run into, nothing out of the ordinary. The world is not perfect, but as long as the US mantains air supremacy I'm alright with it. On a side note, I wouldn't mind paying some extra taxes out of every paycheck just for national security/armed forces purposes. Okay, cyas.
@IauthenticI i'm not talking bout the price of the aircraft, as you said they are overly expensive, i am talking about their capabilities, i have done extensive research myself and when it comes to dogfighting the f-22 and f-35 are outmatched by the russian opposition, and air suppiriority will not be won by jets, long range radar systems and surface to air missiles will win air supiriority as enemy jets will be detected long before they are within striking range so it is a bit pointless
It is a beautiful plane, that is obsolete. Drones are the true dominating force of the air now. The concept of Manned fighters is dead. Hate to break it to everyone.
@EricsTechTalk The United States Airforce level of tech is so beyond everyone elses that NO, you do not need manned flight in the role of a fighter. Period.
@ElectronHexagon In an air-to-air conflict, no remote system (in the foreseen future) can replace a pilot's instinct and level of situational awareness. Also, when fighting a more advanced enemy with enough electronic warfare infrastructure to jam signals, remote piloted aircraft simply cannot be counted on. In a surgical ground strike role, UAVs are king, but in an air superiority, interceptor role or escort role, nothing in existence can quite replace manned fighters. Period.
@EricsTechTalk your wrong,remotely piloted aircraft and AI are the future...G forces have ,have much less effect on machines...9 G is at human limit,and that's for seconds...
The laws of physics will bottleneck Moore's law soon enough (if they haven't already).
Regardless, IPS rates does not translate to intelligence, abstract reasoning, on-the-fly creativity or 3D visual field "processing" (all of which are needed for AtA/SEAD/OCA missions).
@ClarksonsinUSA -"Capitalism always finds away...And Moore's law will continue for at least 20 years using silicon, quantum computing will replace it..."
Well then, it's like I said, you're just another geek living the Skynet fantasy.
I'm pretty sure we'll have light sabers, matter-energy transporters and cloaking devices too within the next 20 years. I mean, since the laws of physics apparently aren't worth a damn anymore.
@em745aa I'm pretty sure we'll have light sabers, matter-energy transporters and cloaking devices too within the next 20 years. I mean, since the laws of physics apparently aren't worth a damn anymore.
Reply...Transporters will take a level of computing that far exceeds our computing levels,even with Moore's law uninterrupted for the next 100 years..Light sabers has no practicably app...
@ClarksonsinUSA I never said anything about G forces. This has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make. Also, I'm reading some of your other comments here. You're either a kid or an idiot.
All fifth-generation fighter F-22 Raptors from the 1st Fighter Wing, Langley Air Force Base, Va., are back with the flight operations suspended a pilot after going through loss of oxygen during the flight.
Air Force Base Elmendorf-Richardson also suspended flights of its F-22 Raptors
Over 20 years of design and how can it still stopping
7.28 seconds to make 180 deg turn = 24.72 deg/s instantenious turn rate. What so special about that? So much vapor condensation at this turn rate is not a good sign for aerodynamic efficiency. It looks cool though.
@907AlphaKilo -"Its actually water vapor being compressed into a denser form by the wing."
No. It's actually water vapor condensing in LOW PRESSURE AREAS above the wing. When you dilate air (i.e. lower its pressure), it cools down, lowering its ability to "hold" water vapor in a gas state. That's when the condensation appears.
When you compress air you heat it up and therefore make it LESS likely for visible vapor to form.
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The problem of course being that it can't do that at high speeds because it would snap in half. At high speeds, even a Eurofighter is more manoeuvrable.
01000001011100100111 15 hours ago
China declares war on USA, 32 J20s fly towards the USA, 132 F-22s intercept them.
J20 pilots: AWW SHIT!!!!!! WTF?!?!
JK I'm just joking with yal.
Pr3dProductionsHD 1 day ago
20 seconds for 360dgr turn? That's 2 seconds better than I-16 in 1933.
Would be nice to know the minimum turn radius of F-22 in meters. Does anyone know or is it possible to judge by this video? 100-200m?
BitnikGr 3 days ago
@BitnikGr LOL it's interesting to note that the Su-35, 37 and 30 (the ones with thrust vectoring) can do a 360 in about......uhm......1-2 seconds :P
RiccardoTheBeAst 3 days ago
@RiccardoTheBeAst With a severe loss of speed and further agility.
franknbeans4761 3 days ago
@franknbeans4761 Of course ;)
RiccardoTheBeAst 3 days ago
@franknbeans4761 Loss of speed - yes. Loss of agility? No. With 3D TVC and thrust/ weight ratio higher than 1 aircraft's nose can be pointed anywhere virtually anytime. (within logical 6-10 seconds to perform change of direction).
SU-30MKI can't raise its nose after performance of cobra maneuver for example. That's because it has not true 3D TVC and its engines thrust is lower than SU-35. SU-35 can pick up its nose vertically after cobra or after flat spin.
BitnikGr 3 days ago
@BitnikGr Doesnt F-22 have only 2d thrust vectoring? and not 3D TVC?
normison69 3 days ago
@normison69 Yes it does. We were talking about SU-30/33/35.
BitnikGr 3 days ago
@BitnikGr SU-35 and SU-37 can basicly turn almost around their own axis like a helicopter, its very cool looking manouver and do supercobras when they flip over many times the cobra in a row doing 360 degree cobras 2-3 in a row.
normison69 3 days ago
@normison69 This is what I was explaining to the other guy. People mistake a flat spin with a turn. 360degrees turn must have sustained bunk, speed and radius. Rotation around its own vertical axis is not a turn, but a flat spin.
BitnikGr 3 days ago
@BitnikGr Yes and durign the vertical axis turn your air speed drops to very very low, but still in dogfight i think its can be a good manouver instead of turning normally given the right situation.
normison69 1 day ago
@normison69 "given the right situation" - Exactly.
However, when Cobra maneuver was invented it was effective not only in close dogfight, but also in BVR. This was effective manouver in order to disappear from enemy's pulse-dopler radars. F.e. using this maneuver in 80s, SU-27 could launch 2 medium range AAMs against F-15 and then run away without leaving F-15 any chance to react.
But this trick doesn't work against PESA and AESA radars.
BitnikGr 1 day ago
@normison69 ...
But there are plenty of fighters still equipped with pulse-dopler radar around the World. So, I bet Indian SU-30MKI can effectively use Cobra against pulse-dopler radars of all Pakistani fighters in BVR. Pakistan has F-16, JF-17, F-7, Mirage III, Mirage 5 - they all have pulse-dopler radars.
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@BitnikGr Yes and durign the vertical axis turn your air speed drops to very very low, but still in dogfight i think its can be a good manouver instead of turning normally given the right situation and F-22 cannot do the vertical axis spin while SU-35 and SU-37 can, also MiG-35 can do it if im correct.
normison69 1 day ago
@normison69 I can't get what do you call as "vertical axis spin" exactly...
If you have a video with example to show me...
F-22 can do a flat spin, it can stand on its tail and then fall to one of its sides and it can do a kulbit (falling on back after standing on tail f.e.). But some of maneuvers can't be done so fast as on SUkhoi planes.
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@BitnikGr Yes and durign the vertical axis spin your air speed drops to very very low, but still in dogfight i think its can be a good manouver instead of turning normally given the right situation and F-22 cannot do the vertical axis spin while SU-35 and SU-37 can, also MiG-35 can do it if im correct.
normison69 1 day ago
@RiccardoTheBeAst Maneuver you referring to is not a turn with sustained speed, but a flat spin and F-22 can do it too. /watch?v=VJM2NyN6pYw
But indeed SU-35 does 360dgr flat spin in 6 seconds, (/watch?v=Iuqaig4-Fkc), while F-22 in 6 seconds does only 180dgrs.
Generally speaking flat spin can be performed by many planes, even ones from WW II era.
BitnikGr 3 days ago
@BitnikGr Uhm no i mean that fast changes of direction (dunno the name) /watch?v=4jVbb1sU49o
and without 3D thrust vectoring the F-22 cannot turn so fast horizontally ;)
RiccardoTheBeAst 3 days ago
F-22 don't give a fuck
EmperorBun 4 days ago
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Too bad the jet turned out to be unworkable. With production canceled, the future is not going to see us using F22s for more then show purposes unless the #$%^ its the fan.
ScottMana 5 days ago
Vote for ron paul if you still want this jet
bobbyraejohnson 1 week ago
its just so pretty !!
quinxxer 1 week ago
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See Su 27, 37, 37, 50.
tomek11aa 1 week ago
Take that radar!
johnnyrckt 2 weeks ago
sonic boom!
rocketman5011 3 weeks ago
@rocketman5011 Where?
SuperSlant 2 weeks ago
I want to see more of these made. the f-35 is probably gonna fail.
nayte1 3 weeks ago
@nayte1
Yeah, F-35 multirole is very much weaker. F-22 is a freak plane, almost too good for the real world. It's overpriced due to the rampant corruption at Pentagon/contractors, a never-ending corruption since large procurements in 1980es. F-22 would be indispensable only against Russia, and it's hardly the case. Russia/India PAK/FA is good, but not as good. It comes at something like 30% the price (including their own corruption). China is testing something, I am a bit skeptical about them.
anaplastic 1 week ago
WOW! Just...WOW! lol I felt a sinking feeling into my chair just now.
Big30MasterShake 3 weeks ago
After playing Battlefield 3 I realize the importance of a minimum radius turn. LOL
yost28 4 weeks ago 3
@yost28 I always forget to turn off my afterburners.
JediGTI 4 weeks ago
@yost28 BF3 can only teach you so much about dog- fighting.
82ndairborne100 3 weeks ago
@yost28
Battlefied 3 is complete nonsense.
Aircaft these days engage eachother at about 50km with BVR missiles, not at 500m with cannons.
Heaney5551 3 weeks ago
@Heaney5551
Not saying its like real-life, just saying that having a tighter turning radius than the other guy is a definite plus.
yost28 3 weeks ago
@Heaney5551 Well I agree with the first statement, there is a reason why they continue to put guns on fighters, and why they still teach ACM.
SpencerAK74M 2 weeks ago
Holy. Fucking. Shit....
funsize0291 1 month ago
..a tight run followed by a vertical climb.....i feel bad for the pilot lolol...those Gs
ChibiSmasher 1 month ago
over G's
TheCaspoe 1 month ago
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@49fiori yet on paper it looks great but in real life once the f22 is there close combat its going down just look how the russians an chinese made fun of their use_less f22 one thing i love about the russians is that they replace their equipment instead of making new airplanes,for example the US Airforce their like we need new airplanes instead of equipment like the RUSSIANS
Falken36Osku 1 month ago
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while the su37 does 3x tighter turns and can do on point 180s...... I hope we have a secret plane that can destroy it.
danchiefs1 1 month ago
maybe the f15 eagle active?
danchiefs1 1 month ago
US Air Force has 187 F-22s. If you want to invade any country in the world, including China, this is enough.
49fiori 1 month ago 12
@49fiori
actually with 187 we can invade 3 or 4 countries at the same time and easily achieve air superiority.
Nothing can touch the F-22 right now!!
KrayzieBone222 1 month ago
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@KrayzieBone222 to invade several countries at the same time is the final purpose for F-22A??? I thought it for selfdefence against small but quite agressive countries...:(( crazy yankee
dobrovolets777 3 weeks ago
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@49fiori Sorry buddy, but just few words: Tor-2M, Tunguska-M, S-400. And new Sukhois can take Raptor.
realIBeliX 2 weeks ago
@49fiori until air defence missiles are upgraded (most likely this decade). Remember this plane is not "invisable to radar its just harder to detect (without me going all geeky here) but no doubt if they wanted to invade today it would be enough"
alskinso 1 week ago
@alskinso nah not really, the EU alone would be enough to completely destroy them if they even considered an invasion in any country without a damn good reason to do so....
snake172 5 days ago
@49fiori when China builds 300 J-20 then you have no chance.
obsidianstatue 6 days ago
@obsidianstatue By the time those are pushed into service amerika will have 6th gen ready.
TheBlackIdentety 4 days ago
@TheBlackIdentety no J-20 is set to come in service in 2018 by then only a handful of f-35 will be operational, so called 6th generation is atleast 20 years away.
obsidianstatue 4 days ago
@obsidianstatue O.K. I know I exaggerated a bit,6th gen is do between 2020-25.Also by that time the entire 2400 plane fleet should be operational of the f-35's.Some are already in service so in this respect you're greatly underestamating amerika.
Don't get me wrong,I'm no fan of amerika playing the cherif of the world but they are always a gen.ahead of anyone and that's just the publicly known tech.Black projects are up to 50 years ahead of anything we know of.
TheBlackIdentety 3 days ago
Its not the minimum radius turn duh, its turns even faster!!!
F22raptor46 1 month ago
is it under pressure thats make the "cloud" or what to call it, when he turns?
Nikki92ful 1 month ago
@Nikki92ful it is the air that cannot get away fast enough, so it gets compressed over the wings and therefore visible - very short explanation but that is basically what happens
hassanoish 1 month ago
@hassanoish -"it is the air that cannot get away fast enough, so it gets compressed over the wings and therefore visible - very short explanation"
And a very wrong one.
Compressed air heats up, dilating air cools down. Air above wings dilates and cools down below the air's dew point causing condensation to appear (i.e. making the air's moisture visible), hence the "clouds."
em745aa 1 month ago 8
@em745aa exactly what i wrote.. mine was just shorter and more precise than yours mr. air professor ;D
hassanoish 1 month ago
@hassanoish -"exactly what i wrote.. mine was just shorter and more precise than yours mr. air professor"
Typical asinine retort from a YouTube twit who can't admit when he's wrong.
You CLEARLY said that it was "compression" that made the air "visible," which is bullshit. You made no mention AT ALL of air moisture, low pressure and dew point (all KEY points as to what actually causes the "cloud" to appear).
Take a course in basic gas physics. You might learn a thing or two.
em745aa 1 month ago
@em745aa now your just repeating what i just explained to perfection, short and simple. I was way more precise than you
hassanoish 1 month ago
@em745aa Plus, I would think that if the air above the wings had higher pressure, the plane would fall out of the sky.
Ramn8tr 1 day ago
Holy G-zus!
miksta115 2 months ago
Turn on a dime? That thing turned on a freaking atom!
BlueRaptorTiger 2 months ago
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Nothing is crazy. Su-35 can do better !
ANLQ84 2 months ago
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100 million dollar waist of money- should of just upgraded the f15
edzick917 2 months ago
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Here's an F-14 doing it in about the same time. watch?v=CJV_bo6oJrM&feature=related
ledzeppelinfan1968 2 months ago
F-22: Ignoring Newtons first law of motion since 1997.
thekkl 2 months ago 64
I can't wait until more f-22 cockpit videos surface
flight1510 2 months ago
govno!!!
avdeevdeni 2 months ago
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Varaxis 2 months ago
An su-35bm in a flat spin turns in a radius of 1/2 a su-35bm. It may lose a little altitude in the process, but so did that f-22.
kozmon0t 2 months ago
@kozmon0t bear in mind how fast this F-22 is traveling. If it were going slower and with use of thrust vectoring, could turn sharper, however this would result in altitude loss.
lrusak 2 months ago
@lrusak It's well below corner speed, or the turn would have been complete in the claimed 13 seconds. I doubt it can turn any sharper with full control.
And it did lose altitude. Unless the cameraman somehow zoomed in imperceptibly.
kozmon0t 2 months ago
@kozmon0t Even though they say they're showing maximum performance, demos often modify maneuvers to look "right" for the audience. As the jets go into the turn, they reduce bank in order to generate a slight climb, this way on the ground at show center, the turn looks level. As they come out of the turn, you'll notice the bank varying and hence the altitude loss.
SemperApollo 2 months ago
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Раптор пиздат.
saamohod 2 months ago
Yes. Very nice... how much?
BigmanKennedy 2 months ago
Wow that's pretty rapid.
kertaspaper94 3 months ago
Is that white cloudy looking stuff just it being too awesome and shedding the extra awesomeness off?
asdfin89 3 months ago
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Su 47, no Su 35, no Su 25 Fuck him !
MrDimka911 3 months ago
i want one
RotundRiceRockets 3 months ago
15g I bet
giovmari 3 months ago
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Ironically, most Russian planes still turn better than that.
Bobisawesome100 3 months ago
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These are beautiful planes and I love to see them fly but no human can withstand the g forces of a drone. Drones can be super fast, long loiter times, cheaper and far more deadly. Future warfare will use much more robotics. They follow orders. Are fearless. Cheaper. Need no VA. Feel no pain.
holajim 3 months ago
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Это все что он может?
MsTechnolog 3 months ago
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@MsTechnolog Ее лучше, чем полет медленно и тянуть на палочке, так, что самолет может отступить с тяжести xD
TH7596 3 months ago
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@MsTechnolog а что еще надо чтобы бомбить безоружных?
bylvinkle 3 months ago
its starscream!
LP640Murcielago 3 months ago 27
@LP640Murcielago TERRORIZE!
m0nkey1eader 3 months ago
@LP640Murcielago Its more like Sarcasm,calling such a big turn a minimum radius lol.
MrJoyride619 3 months ago
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Hellenic F-16 took out the F-22 in Red Flag 2008 - oh the ignorance of some people. Only Greek pilots have achieved this feat! Don't believe me, just ask and confirm with the US Air-force.
aek1928 3 months ago
TAKE THAT MOTHER NAUTURE IT'LL TAKE YOU 50 YEARS TO BEAT THAT!
F17F22 3 months ago
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@F17F22 Hellenic F-16 took out the F-22 in Red Flag 2008 - oh the ignorance of some people. Only Greek pilots have achieved this feat! Don't believe me, just ask and confirm with the US Air-force.
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@F17F22 how much for su-37? even dicovery admited it is beter plane :D
eyeschoper 2 months ago
That must have felt nice for the pilot
Folgrin 3 months ago
@Folgrin That's what she said.
StapledFish 3 months ago
Gravity my ASS!
L3ADV3N0M 3 months ago
supposedly the F-22 had a 144 to zero kill/death ratio at a red flag in 2006, there is a video here somewhere. who cares how much it cost when 2 of them can take down an entire countries air defense.
Rudywtf 3 months ago
xOOOO = Pilots face
Mattc23q 3 months ago
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Nice Body Kit, but for such a money It's better to have a TELEPORT ability. All RUSsian SU's are steps ahead better and twice cheaper, so here we have a perfect tax washing machine. Congrats! :-)))
CORELATIS 3 months ago
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you guys commenting on f-22 and how its game over havent seen the competiton or why the f-22 and f-35 are useless videos, when u do u will hav a different opinion i sure as hell did
torque2802 3 months ago
did you see him turn on the chemtrails sprayjets?!
kowalityjesus 3 months ago
some thing called you waear a g force suit to be able to take up to 9 g
TheNalu7 3 months ago
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azzy314159 3 months ago
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@azzy314159 The laws of physics are a damned nuisance. They should be abolished.
azzy314159 3 months ago
how many G's you think that was?
HomerJEDL 3 months ago
that's why f-22 very very expensive
destro03 3 months ago
F-22 Raptor. Game over man! Game over!
IauthenticI 3 months ago
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@IauthenticI check out the video "why the f-22 and f-35 are useless"
torque2802 3 months ago
@torque2802
Sure, sure buddy. Bug off!
IauthenticI 3 months ago
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@IauthenticI hav you even watched the video? im betting no or you have but ur so far up the american militaries ass that u fail to believe a bad word about them. im hoping it's its the former but i know its the latter
torque2802 3 months ago
@torque2802
I've done extensive research on both aircraft. Yes, they are overpriced and chosen out of political corruption and yes both have, will have and had plenty of problems. Problems as any other aircraft programs would run into, nothing out of the ordinary. The world is not perfect, but as long as the US mantains air supremacy I'm alright with it. On a side note, I wouldn't mind paying some extra taxes out of every paycheck just for national security/armed forces purposes. Okay, cyas.
IauthenticI 3 months ago
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@IauthenticI i'm not talking bout the price of the aircraft, as you said they are overly expensive, i am talking about their capabilities, i have done extensive research myself and when it comes to dogfighting the f-22 and f-35 are outmatched by the russian opposition, and air suppiriority will not be won by jets, long range radar systems and surface to air missiles will win air supiriority as enemy jets will be detected long before they are within striking range so it is a bit pointless
torque2802 3 months ago
That man
Has cajones
The size of TEXAS.
ZekeSturm 3 months ago
too slow ;)
LeBronForTheWin 3 months ago
Lol. The pilot musta been screaming. It a wonder he didn't blackout.
USAPatriot1 3 months ago 2
That is just ridiculous!
davek71 3 months ago
Can the Pak-FA or the aJ-20 do that? Nooo :3
peepeevagi 3 months ago
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@peepeevagi пак фа ещё недоделан
Spartak828282 3 months ago
ouch. that guy must have been really trying to hold his blood in position.
JeansForLife 3 months ago
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It is a beautiful plane, that is obsolete. Drones are the true dominating force of the air now. The concept of Manned fighters is dead. Hate to break it to everyone.
ElectronHexagon 3 months ago
@ElectronHexagon In THIS war. There are still some things you simply need a pilot for.
EricsTechTalk 3 months ago
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@EricsTechTalk The United States Airforce level of tech is so beyond everyone elses that NO, you do not need manned flight in the role of a fighter. Period.
ElectronHexagon 3 months ago
@ElectronHexagon In an air-to-air conflict, no remote system (in the foreseen future) can replace a pilot's instinct and level of situational awareness. Also, when fighting a more advanced enemy with enough electronic warfare infrastructure to jam signals, remote piloted aircraft simply cannot be counted on. In a surgical ground strike role, UAVs are king, but in an air superiority, interceptor role or escort role, nothing in existence can quite replace manned fighters. Period.
EricsTechTalk 3 months ago 16
@EricsTechTalk Well said.
twiggslax 2 months ago
@EricsTechTalk your wrong,remotely piloted aircraft and AI are the future...G forces have ,have much less effect on machines...9 G is at human limit,and that's for seconds...
ClarksonsinUSA 2 months ago
@ClarksonsinUSA -"your wrong"
watch?v=KRxod7diTkU
-"remotely piloted aircraft and AI are the future...G forces have ,have much less effect on machines...9 G is at human limit,and that's for seconds.."
What do we have here? Another geek with "Skynet" fantasies?
em745aa 2 months ago
@em745aa the pattern is clear,whats skynet???
ClarksonsinUSA 2 months ago
@ClarksonsinUSA -"whats skynet???"
Ever hear of Google?
EricsTechTalk's comments are spot on, and YOU live in a dream world.
Flesh-and-blood pilots will be performing air superiority missions from MANNED fighters for a long, LOOOOONG time to come.
em745aa 2 months ago
@em745aa your 12,lol..
ClarksonsinUSA 2 months ago
@ClarksonsinUSA -"your 12,lol.."
Again...
watch?v=KRxod7diTkU
-"You know Moore's law...FACT..."
The laws of physics will bottleneck Moore's law soon enough (if they haven't already).
Regardless, IPS rates does not translate to intelligence, abstract reasoning, on-the-fly creativity or 3D visual field "processing" (all of which are needed for AtA/SEAD/OCA missions).
em745aa 2 months ago
@em745aa The laws of physics will bottleneck Moore's law soon enough (if they haven't already).
Reply...... Capitalism always finds away...And Moore's law will continue for at least 20 years using silicon, quantum computing will replace it...
ClarksonsinUSA 2 months ago
@ClarksonsinUSA -"Capitalism always finds away...And Moore's law will continue for at least 20 years using silicon, quantum computing will replace it..."
Well then, it's like I said, you're just another geek living the Skynet fantasy.
I'm pretty sure we'll have light sabers, matter-energy transporters and cloaking devices too within the next 20 years. I mean, since the laws of physics apparently aren't worth a damn anymore.
em745aa 2 months ago
@em745aa I'm pretty sure we'll have light sabers, matter-energy transporters and cloaking devices too within the next 20 years. I mean, since the laws of physics apparently aren't worth a damn anymore.
Reply...Transporters will take a level of computing that far exceeds our computing levels,even with Moore's law uninterrupted for the next 100 years..Light sabers has no practicably app...
ClarksonsinUSA 2 months ago
@em745aa Why is your YouTube page not open to the public,nothing to show???
ClarksonsinUSA 2 months ago
@em745aa letsupdate genius,cpu's double the amount of calculations they can do every 18 months....You know Moore's law...FACT...
ClarksonsinUSA 2 months ago
@ClarksonsinUSA I never said anything about G forces. This has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make. Also, I'm reading some of your other comments here. You're either a kid or an idiot.
EricsTechTalk 1 month ago
@EricsTechTalk why so bitter????? :)
ClarksonsinUSA 1 month ago
@ClarksonsinUSA Oh, it's just fun to troll a bit sometimes.
EricsTechTalk 1 month ago
fuck schools...this is why I pay taxes!
lifevest1 3 months ago
This damn plane has no respect for the laws of Physics!
mrthebillman 4 months ago
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nice plane.. but manoeuvring ability is not Its strongest side.
DivineOwl 4 months ago
R-EAL
A-SS KICKING
P-LANE
T-HAT
O-FFERS
R-ESISTANCE
nvana21 4 months ago 2
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F-22 flights are suspended again - Part 4
All fifth-generation fighter F-22 Raptors from the 1st Fighter Wing, Langley Air Force Base, Va., are back with the flight operations suspended a pilot after going through loss of oxygen during the flight.
Air Force Base Elmendorf-Richardson also suspended flights of its F-22 Raptors
Over 20 years of design and how can it still stopping
ricjan33 4 months ago
middle finger to gravity!
technospear 4 months ago
FUCK GRAVITY!
StapledFish 4 months ago 83
@StapledFish LOL, i saw your comment on the other video
JasonXS12 3 months ago
@JasonXS12 :P
StapledFish 3 months ago
@StapledFish
Yeah. It truly sucks you down, doesn't it?
luciduspostremo 3 months ago
@luciduspostremo How so? I thought the comment I had made was quite comical...
StapledFish 3 months ago
@StapledFish
Yeah. Me too
luciduspostremo 3 months ago
@luciduspostremo :P
StapledFish 3 months ago
love the shockwave cloud
gtx2000hawk 4 months ago
Wow man! this plane doesnt respect gravity! FUCK GRAVITY!
ricard512 4 months ago
holy shit, look at that washout, that pilots off his rocker
snowyphil65 4 months ago
This is only 70% of the Raptor's capability; they tone it down for airshows.
AwesomeJokes 4 months ago 2
The F22 does not deserve so many trolling comments.
MNanme1z4xs 4 months ago
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7.28 seconds to make 180 deg turn = 24.72 deg/s instantenious turn rate. What so special about that? So much vapor condensation at this turn rate is not a good sign for aerodynamic efficiency. It looks cool though.
AndraxxusNephilem 4 months ago
And how many G's is that?
yellowsupra7 4 months ago
9g or more ?
evolventful 4 months ago
Ahhhhh.... such a beautiful plane.
Snagabott 4 months ago 41
@Snagabott jet*
airsoftrules987 2 months ago
I'll take 5!
lastadolkgGM 4 months ago
condensation on the wings
fsxflyer253 4 months ago
@fsxflyer253 Its actually water vapor being compressed into a denser form by the wing.
907AlphaKilo 4 months ago
@907AlphaKilo -"Its actually water vapor being compressed into a denser form by the wing."
No. It's actually water vapor condensing in LOW PRESSURE AREAS above the wing. When you dilate air (i.e. lower its pressure), it cools down, lowering its ability to "hold" water vapor in a gas state. That's when the condensation appears.
When you compress air you heat it up and therefore make it LESS likely for visible vapor to form.
em745aa 4 months ago
@em745aa Well my bad. I mixed up compressed and condensed. SUE ME!
907AlphaKilo 4 months ago
@907AlphaKilo You're welcome...
And I will be filing suit this coming week.
em745aa 4 months ago
What's the smoky stuff that comes out while decelerating ?
Triplewave4 4 months ago
@Triplewave4 Bad catalytic converter.
smithraymond09029 4 months ago
@smithraymond09029 ok, thnx! I'm still a noobie in aeronautics so I'm trying to learn
Triplewave4 4 months ago