Could the crossing guard not walk out to the street, flag the train to continue and flag traffic to stop?
Drivers and pedestrians would see the red light, the gate partially closed, the guard signaling them to stop, and therefore would know they must stop.
Unfortunate to bring the train to a stop. Then, the train takes much longer to accelerate and cross, so it is making traffic and pedestrians wait much longer.
Warum ist eigentlich der vordere Pantograph oben? Der erste Wagen ist weder ein Gefahrgutwagen, noch handelt es sich um einen Autotransporter. An sich müßte der hintere oben sein, meine ich. Irgendein Fachmann hier?
@chris40539 A wild guess would be the fact that the crossing is malfunctioning :P
It's standard when the crossing is broken or even completely fails to activate. If it couldn't activate at all then the train would have used the horn way more (at least according to rules. The horn might not be used continuously if the driver can see everybody has stopped on the road)
Tolles Video, das Beste ist der Depp mit der Aktentasche, solche Pfeifen erlebe ich auch oft genug. Wenn die es schneller können, sollen die doch mal versuchen das Dingen zu fahren.
oh ja den auchtungspfiff dann bis zur bahnübergangsmitte mit schrittgeschwindigkeit fahren und ab da den gefahrenbereich so schnell wie möglich verlassen>>d.h. vollgas ;D ..oh man die regeln stehn mir bis hier -
The rule is similar in the US for broken crossing signals or gates, where the train engineer or dispatcher is aware of the malfunction in time.
I recently saw a heavy freight make an emergency stop in about 1.5km because the signals at a crossing were continuously signalling.
Another time, a barrier gate was broken when a large truck ('lorry') drove right through it. Five min later a train arrived, stopped, tossed out flares on the road and crawled through the crossing at walking speed.
Yeah and than some stupid tart will cross, because he can't wait, get hit, and the prosecution gets down on the engine drivers ass.
No, the rule is even when just the safetylight fails (crossing is shut, but signal tells otherwise) to use the fallbackprocedure (enabling the crossing with a key, or, if not available stop in front, give horn, drive to the middle with walking speed, give horn again and accelerate).
There is usually a yellow blinking signal 800 to 1000 metres in front of the crossing (for the train), if it's not blinking, the LC is to handle like open(eg complete failure or so), even if you see it is not. I think it begins to blink when the crossing is completely shut, but I don't know that technique exactly.
The rules in Germany are very strict, after every accident they become a bit stricter.
In USA there is nothing indicating the grade crossing signals are working or not.
The engineer MAY see the signal lamp light bulb filaments blinking through ports in the sides of the signal lamp housings.
But the signals are well made and engineered and have battery back-up.
In China they have a blue light midway beneath the two (o)=(o). It goes out when a train comes. If otherwise out, the signal may be dead. A sign below instructs: "No signal, don't use.".
There is no Problem. In Germany there are 3 Types of Level Crossings (LC).
HP, UES (ÜS) and FUE (FÜ).
The LC in the Video seams to be "HP". That means that the Signal for the Train only becomes "Green" when the LC is correctly closed and nobody is inside the Barrier. The "Fahrdienstleiter" (tha Man into the Signal Box) have to get an "Befehl" to the Engeneer of the Train that the LC is Broken and he have to stop in front of the LC, get a Sign an go then slow to the Middle of the LC.
An LC in Version FUE (FÜ) have two redundant Systems in the LC (incl. Battery Backup etc) an if the are detecting an malefunktion they will get Alarm to the "Fahrdienstleiter". He only then can give an "Nothaltauftrag" wenn a Train is aproaching to the LC because there is no Signal to protect the LC but because the two of two System of this LC there is the posibility that the LC will not going an Red Sign not verry high. All further Trains will get a "Befehl" like Version "HP".
This particular corssing will be operated by a crossing keeper. Stopping is necessary in the German railways (DB) rule book.This is the safe way of doing it as people do tend to jump the lights if there aren't any barriers.
It would seem like a waste of fuel (in this case electricity), of course. But in cases like this one the crossing keepers are also signal men at the same time and thus not able to leave their signal boxes. If crossings failures persits, the crossings will be manned with extra staff to keep both rail and road traffic flowing. Repairs are usually delt with swiftly. The rules and regulations in Germany are designed to provide the greatest possible safety, not to protect revenue.
@robertgift Well, I could comment on all those level crossing films from the US we get to view here. Can't remember any from Germany. That's probably because we've got a better safety record. That also goes for staff fatalities on the railways, a thing I am very concerned with being a train driver myself.
ick arbeite bei der bahn und sehe sowas och des öfteren. aba solche leute halten sich imma für schlauer. is eigentlich ein wunder das er nich einfach rüber gerannt is.
In Belgium, level crossings are integrated in the general signalling system. When the LC fails, the signal won't open. The driver has to contact the signalmaster, who will tell him to pass the signal at 40 kmph from the signal to the LC, whistle at the crossing and cross it at 5 kmph.
On lines that don't have general signalling, 2-phase lights (red and amber) are placed at the LC. An amber light means the LC is working properly, a red light means failure. Stop, proceed at 5 kmph and whistle.
Now this is what one can call German reasonability and common sense!
Probably, there is a special signalling letting train drivers know something has gone wrong with the level crossing barrier.
The procedure then? Stop before a crossing, check whether passing would be safe, go.
In my country possibly less than few percent of all the crossings has this type of additional signaling and if it is there, loco drivers only have to slow to 15 or 25 kph and to horn a lot.
I don't know how it happens in Germany but in the UK a white flashing light shows down both directions of railway line to show the crossing is working completely normally...I imagine it's the same there...so yes, there probably is a special signal letting driers know something has gone wrong with the barrier.
Das is doch normal. Achtungspfiff und dann fahren auf Sicht. Danach normal weiter. Ja,ja das einzige was an den Loks richtig gut ist ist der Ton vom Horn.
lol Go Ok?
tixonok1 3 weeks ago
Germany.
NVergilio 1 month ago
actualización de las barreras se
dellcameron 2 months ago
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dellcameron 3 months ago
nice sound of the train
Busje1993 3 months ago
that bel is this the bel from the level crossing of the train?
daantjep10 4 months ago
That's dangerous......
Gigdoat 7 months ago
@Gigdoat The train drivers are obviously informed about it
1madaboutguitar 5 months ago
The fact is at least these people don't see it as an opportunity to run across
GlitteryGuineaPig13 7 months ago
In Britain Health and Safety would say no to that crossing being open
tom201090 8 months ago
@tom201090 Not completely true.
tgm9991 5 months ago
I wish people in New Zealand were that disciplined. They just would not wait.
Daikenboy 9 months ago
EPIC FAIL
nirtrainman 10 months ago
I think is the barrier gates neeed to change and wire
94Princesi 10 months ago
Dat is die BR 152.
E57andrelb1 11 months ago
very good ..austrian people are very disciplined ...
francksol 1 year ago
@francksol GERMAN people. This is not in Austria.
hurlbrink 9 months ago
Could the crossing guard not walk out to the street, flag the train to continue and flag traffic to stop?
Drivers and pedestrians would see the red light, the gate partially closed, the guard signaling them to stop, and therefore would know they must stop.
Unfortunate to bring the train to a stop. Then, the train takes much longer to accelerate and cross, so it is making traffic and pedestrians wait much longer.
robertgift 1 year ago
Der Übergang hat keine Het
MrMetaller10 1 year ago
oops
MrHornbyman66153love 1 year ago
Warum ist eigentlich der vordere Pantograph oben? Der erste Wagen ist weder ein Gefahrgutwagen, noch handelt es sich um einen Autotransporter. An sich müßte der hintere oben sein, meine ich. Irgendein Fachmann hier?
eltfell 1 year ago
@eltfell
hasd schonr echt aber viell is der 2te kaputt oder jemand hatte keine lust drauf zu wechseln :O
Weichsi92 1 year ago
@eltfell ja normalerweise müsste der hintere oben sein...
RailionLogistics 1 year ago
Ähm ist die Bahnschranke etwa defekt? o.O
PPGCSuicide 1 year ago
@PPGCSuicide Was denn sonst? Ist doch schließlich DB AB, das Unternehmen Zukunft.
eltfell 1 year ago
that happened on my train simulator too
chris40539 1 year ago
why did the train have to go over at walking speed?
chris40539 1 year ago
@chris40539 A wild guess would be the fact that the crossing is malfunctioning :P
It's standard when the crossing is broken or even completely fails to activate. If it couldn't activate at all then the train would have used the horn way more (at least according to rules. The horn might not be used continuously if the driver can see everybody has stopped on the road)
tymmur 1 year ago
Wurde der Lokführer vom Stellwerkwärter zum Halten aufgefordert? Oder gibt es für diesen Übergang ein Kontroll-Licht?
aaretraenki100 1 year ago
which barrier was broken
Cazkumali 1 year ago
die richtige tröte fürs auto um leutchen anner ampel zu erschrecken :-D
gh0ststalker 1 year ago
Nettes Video. Schade, ich hätte den Zug gern noch zu Ende gesehen.
romeoyankee28284 1 year ago
ne schöne 152'er =)
BlauerSittich 1 year ago
At least those people were smart enough to wait even though the crossing was broken...
squishy3000 2 years ago
what is the weird noise at the start?
Mollingt0n 2 years ago
This is a compressed air horn what the German Eletro railroad engines that have
Vetterjack85 2 years ago 6
This is OK, the same is going in Hungary too if there is a crossing failure.
IngaPapagaj 2 years ago
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NordReportage 2 years ago
hi, the movies is excellent, thanks ★★★★★
vladimir2366fa 2 years ago
Ich liebe solche ausgefallenen Videos
Dultaffe 2 years ago
tolles makrofon, ich liebe den krach sowas gehört ins auto
gh0ststalker 2 years ago 20
@gh0ststalker what language is that
dellcameron 2 months ago
@dellcameron German, according to google translate.
04smallmj 2 months ago
Hat echt nen tollen Anfahrsound die 152
Class861989 2 years ago 7
was´n honk ey
oldeagle99 2 years ago 3
Haha... Soll er doch heulen der Aktentaschendepp... ^^ 5*
UndergroundBerlin 2 years ago 4
Voll der "Super-Depp" mit der Aktentasche! So ein Idiot . Riesen Schnauze aber nichts dahinter. Warum regt der sich so auf?
Skyrider112 2 years ago 5
Tolles Video, das Beste ist der Depp mit der Aktentasche, solche Pfeifen erlebe ich auch oft genug. Wenn die es schneller können, sollen die doch mal versuchen das Dingen zu fahren.
5/5
Hasenbraeter 2 years ago 6
don't they use the containers of Linea Mexicana anymore?
CamiloSanchez1979 2 years ago
Für alle die es nicht wissen, das ist eine BR 152. Und zwar eine die mal das gaaaannz alte Railion Logo trug.
KBS670 3 years ago 2
Richtig. Der echte Kenner siehts auch am Dachaufbau.
tobynms8 2 years ago 15
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Ne das ist ne 185´er
DB103Freak 3 years ago
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how in god's name did this video even get an average of 4 stars?
gooterscooby 3 years ago
I gave it FIVE
epiCnIGraRiNSeOUt 3 years ago 3
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Indeed how did it get 4 stars? Oooo level crossing gate broken how exciting!!
amylily 3 years ago
oh ja den auchtungspfiff dann bis zur bahnübergangsmitte mit schrittgeschwindigkeit fahren und ab da den gefahrenbereich so schnell wie möglich verlassen>>d.h. vollgas ;D ..oh man die regeln stehn mir bis hier -
^^
LokfuehrerAndre 3 years ago 6
is das ne 145er?
veedub198909 3 years ago
haha wie lange die warten müssen
freemeen12 3 years ago
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Typisch DB :-) Lässt nichts Reparieren xD
Stadtbahn200 3 years ago
The rule is similar in the US for broken crossing signals or gates, where the train engineer or dispatcher is aware of the malfunction in time.
I recently saw a heavy freight make an emergency stop in about 1.5km because the signals at a crossing were continuously signalling.
Another time, a barrier gate was broken when a large truck ('lorry') drove right through it. Five min later a train arrived, stopped, tossed out flares on the road and crawled through the crossing at walking speed.
Pellaz2112 3 years ago 2
Did you get to see the truck's license plate or other identifying markings?
I would have called the police and had the guy cited.
For truckers, should they allow 10 or 12 seconds before the gates begin to descend?
The usual is 6 seconds.
What a shame having to stop a train because one gate is not down.
They still have ALL the flashing lights and bells and train's lights and horns.
That is still plenty of warning.
robertgift 3 years ago
No, sadly, I didn't get enough of a look at the truck to report it.
CSX had a repair crew at the crossing within 25 minutes...actually closer to 20 as I recall. This was fairly late at night.
Pellaz2112 3 years ago
manche güterzüge sind lang ;-)
Ralph0805 3 years ago
der kofferheini is ja wieder typisch. Da wünscht man sich, dass der Zug 700m lang war. Blödmann.
Lustiges Video :)
enessa 3 years ago 3
Ich glaub die Schranken sind im Arsch.
DB103Freak 3 years ago 5
so siehts aus :P
Youthiede 3 years ago
Befehl 8!
beerdeddi 3 years ago
bell barriers lights action.ohh it stops in mid air
hstclass43 3 years ago
Oops looks like a broken barier
hstclass43 3 years ago
Da fehlte aber der Achtungspfiff Zp1 ! (Ein Lokführer....)
ChristianGarbsen 3 years ago
Hat er doch gemacht, ganz am Anfang des Videos. Er konnte wohl den Zug nicht gleich anfahren (auch ein Lokführer...)
Siggi155 3 years ago 3
der hat am anfahren gehupt
Ralph0805 3 years ago
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Psst, das heißt Ef (Eisenbahnfahrzeugführer), vor der Ril480-Aktualisierung am Montag noch Tf (Triebfahrzeugführer).
QuorkQTar 3 years ago
schönwetterloks
sebastian1074 3 years ago
geil,in brühl ist auch schon mal passiert xD
pepsa145 3 years ago
I smell a lawsuit!
KiloByte69 3 years ago
This is Germany! Nobody sues for rubbish like that.
Rakunk76 2 years ago
@Rakunk76 WTF I can't even see my old comment that you're replyin too. The fuck is that shit!?
KiloByte69 2 years ago
I can see your comment.
Rakunk76 2 years ago
Germany?
garfieldlover94 3 years ago 2
yes it is germany
ErAdGr 3 years ago
not all train signals operate perfectly. most of them go through problems, and thats normal. problems are just a way of life.
Jimmy146 3 years ago
Ridiculous.
The signal is RED, even if the gate is not down, so everyone should know to stop for the train.
Just slow and blow the horn to warn everyone.
Don't bring the train to a stop.
robertgift 4 years ago
Well said!
89001avocet 3 years ago
Yeah and than some stupid tart will cross, because he can't wait, get hit, and the prosecution gets down on the engine drivers ass.
No, the rule is even when just the safetylight fails (crossing is shut, but signal tells otherwise) to use the fallbackprocedure (enabling the crossing with a key, or, if not available stop in front, give horn, drive to the middle with walking speed, give horn again and accelerate).
Lordnikon42 3 years ago 2
Thanks Lord.
Can the engineer know or see that the red traffic signal has failed?
If the gates were down and closing the crossing, why not just blow the horn and continue? Hate to see a train slow and stop if there is no real need.
How does that crossing work?
Green light flashes to warn of red light?
Or signal just changes from green to red and 10 seconds later gates begin to lower?
robertgift 3 years ago
There is usually a yellow blinking signal 800 to 1000 metres in front of the crossing (for the train), if it's not blinking, the LC is to handle like open(eg complete failure or so), even if you see it is not. I think it begins to blink when the crossing is completely shut, but I don't know that technique exactly.
The rules in Germany are very strict, after every accident they become a bit stricter.
Lordnikon42 3 years ago
Thanks Lord.
In USA there is nothing indicating the grade crossing signals are working or not.
The engineer MAY see the signal lamp light bulb filaments blinking through ports in the sides of the signal lamp housings.
But the signals are well made and engineered and have battery back-up.
In China they have a blue light midway beneath the two (o)=(o). It goes out when a train comes. If otherwise out, the signal may be dead. A sign below instructs: "No signal, don't use.".
robertgift 3 years ago
There is no Problem. In Germany there are 3 Types of Level Crossings (LC).
HP, UES (ÜS) and FUE (FÜ).
The LC in the Video seams to be "HP". That means that the Signal for the Train only becomes "Green" when the LC is correctly closed and nobody is inside the Barrier. The "Fahrdienstleiter" (tha Man into the Signal Box) have to get an "Befehl" to the Engeneer of the Train that the LC is Broken and he have to stop in front of the LC, get a Sign an go then slow to the Middle of the LC.
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465001 3 years ago
An LC in Version FUE (FÜ) have two redundant Systems in the LC (incl. Battery Backup etc) an if the are detecting an malefunktion they will get Alarm to the "Fahrdienstleiter". He only then can give an "Nothaltauftrag" wenn a Train is aproaching to the LC because there is no Signal to protect the LC but because the two of two System of this LC there is the posibility that the LC will not going an Red Sign not verry high. All further Trains will get a "Befehl" like Version "HP".
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465001 3 years ago
This particular corssing will be operated by a crossing keeper. Stopping is necessary in the German railways (DB) rule book.This is the safe way of doing it as people do tend to jump the lights if there aren't any barriers.
Rakunk76 2 years ago
If operated by a crossing keeper, why is he not out stopping traffic and signalling for the train to NOT stop?
What a waste of train fuel to stop all of that mass and then accelerate, plus wasting fuel of vehicles stopped longer and idling.
robertgift 2 years ago
It would seem like a waste of fuel (in this case electricity), of course. But in cases like this one the crossing keepers are also signal men at the same time and thus not able to leave their signal boxes. If crossings failures persits, the crossings will be manned with extra staff to keep both rail and road traffic flowing. Repairs are usually delt with swiftly. The rules and regulations in Germany are designed to provide the greatest possible safety, not to protect revenue.
Rakunk76 2 years ago 3
The RED signal and ringing bell and half descended gate is not enough warning?
I didn't know Deutchland was populated by morons. Too bad they could not get a police officer to man the crossing until it was fixed.
robertgift 2 years ago
@robertgift Well, I could comment on all those level crossing films from the US we get to view here. Can't remember any from Germany. That's probably because we've got a better safety record. That also goes for staff fatalities on the railways, a thing I am very concerned with being a train driver myself.
Rakunk76 1 year ago
its electric
Trustisaliability 2 years ago
sick horn
docbrown11 4 years ago
Was bitte hat der mit dem Koffer für ein Problem? Besser 2 Minuten warten als das der Zug über ihn hinwegrast.
blubberfisch80 4 years ago
Ist halt nicht mehr der Jüngste...
lampkin333 4 years ago
ick arbeite bei der bahn und sehe sowas och des öfteren. aba solche leute halten sich imma für schlauer. is eigentlich ein wunder das er nich einfach rüber gerannt is.
Schirdewan 3 years ago 4
mein gott...
luege1887 4 years ago
ach ja unsere Schranken...
sowas kostet Zeit - aber genau so wie im Vid sind die Vorschriften bei gestörten Bü´s
gutes Vorbild !
FBZugBus 4 years ago 4
In Belgium, level crossings are integrated in the general signalling system. When the LC fails, the signal won't open. The driver has to contact the signalmaster, who will tell him to pass the signal at 40 kmph from the signal to the LC, whistle at the crossing and cross it at 5 kmph.
On lines that don't have general signalling, 2-phase lights (red and amber) are placed at the LC. An amber light means the LC is working properly, a red light means failure. Stop, proceed at 5 kmph and whistle.
bartjedj 4 years ago
Das ist in Sarstedt am Bahnhof.
danny962 4 years ago 4
Is the bell on the engine or the crossing?
Audinos 4 years ago
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The bell is at the level crossing integrated ;-)
German locos have no bell, only one or more horns..
Sscls 4 years ago
in Netherfield, Notts UK, there's a crossing and Network Fail are always there to 'fix' it lol 8)
networksoutheast 4 years ago 2
Now this is what one can call German reasonability and common sense!
Probably, there is a special signalling letting train drivers know something has gone wrong with the level crossing barrier.
The procedure then? Stop before a crossing, check whether passing would be safe, go.
In my country possibly less than few percent of all the crossings has this type of additional signaling and if it is there, loco drivers only have to slow to 15 or 25 kph and to horn a lot.
sniperslaststand 4 years ago 4
ya would ask yourself: "then why are we actually making those signals?"
Sscls 4 years ago
I don't know how it happens in Germany but in the UK a white flashing light shows down both directions of railway line to show the crossing is working completely normally...I imagine it's the same there...so yes, there probably is a special signal letting driers know something has gone wrong with the barrier.
edwardianeccentric 4 years ago
Only on certain types of crossing
tomnelson510 4 years ago
that is possibly the most exciting video on youtube. fantastic stuff.
thecockneycockend 4 years ago 2
Das is doch normal. Achtungspfiff und dann fahren auf Sicht. Danach normal weiter. Ja,ja das einzige was an den Loks richtig gut ist ist der Ton vom Horn.
Kornilli 4 years ago
This happened in my hometown, Sarstedt in Lower Saxony (Germany). A truck crashed into the barrel, I think.
Buffte 4 years ago
I does when people drive through them.
klaptrap 4 years ago
funny, never seen this happen before.
ProSneakyD 5 years ago
theres a level crossing near me as well and at least one barrier brecks a month!
bobgoldfishrulz 5 years ago
I thought only U.S. locos featured bells. Cool video :o).
theup3985 5 years ago
The bell is at the level crossing integrated ;-)
German locos have no bell, only one or more horns..
MrDrive 5 years ago
the horn probably malfuntioned the barrier
VanceDuke 5 years ago
dang they need to fix the horn!
VanceDuke 5 years ago
nice video
dutchtrainmanserie22 5 years ago
ok who broke it lol
crapper1 5 years ago
right
Catdogfisher 5 years ago
WTF?!
Junkie133343 5 years ago