YOU MUST BE SICK MINDED AND CRAZY TO WANT TO LISTEN TO THIS NEW WORLD ORDER SCUM. GO BACK TO YOUR CHRISTIAN RELIGION AND VALUES, BEFORE YOU LOOSE YOUR PATH.
What god do you warship?? The god of sun,war,love,...!? As you can see man creates god on his image and viceversa....so open you're Mind a start think out of the box!!
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1.A) Galera, o que vcs não entendem é que zeitgeist expressa através do projeto vênus a teoria marxista-comunista.... Zeitgeist utiliza em grande parte fontes teosóficas. A teosofia foi fundada por Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, uma luciferiana que é a mãe da nova ordem mundial e da sociedade teosófica, cujos membros são os elitistas que vcs aqui tem "nojo", mas não conseguem desmembrar do sistema capitalista e deste modo não percebem que só há poucas laranjas podres no saco e não o saco inteiro.
he is awakened, it seems that his method of teaching is not for everyone..
someone prefer more objective experience while other subjective....
if you cant feel something in you is wrong when this man talks then this method is not right for you. Find another external teacher to guide you through this journey to find your own inner guru. Peace
This is dangerous deception. "men as gods" ...he says we must move away from ancient ways, yet this lie was perpetrated since humanity began. Wake up people! Jesus is the only God who came in the flesh to testify of the truth. There is only one creator God and our salvation comes through him only. You want life eternal?; then listen to Jesus, believe in Him alone and turn away from your sins. It's that simple!
you've never found the real meaning in life, to blame Jesus it's equal to admit that heis responsible for every single action that YOU take by saying: he's the one who has inspired me................. You need a mirror there..........brother
@thisprophecy Literally what you said promoted no logical process of determining action or belief. But out of fear you are relying on something outside of you to trust and rely on so you do not have to worry. Until I left christianity I never felt true happiness. It is simply a crutch when one is incapable of taking care of their life themselves.
Because in this there is no teacher, no pupil; there is no leader; there is no guru; there is no Master, no Saviour."
Yes there is. He is Jesus Christ. Maybe Krishnamurti didn't know Him but you can know Him. He is Lord, Master, Savior, and Son of God. He died for our sins and He is the ONLY way out of this mess that is this world.
"I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father but by Me." -Jesus
That touched something inside me, I do not know what to call it, it could be the heart, it could be the soul, or it could be an illusion of the mind, however, this is neither here, nor there. Change needs to begin. Change is now. If the world lets it be so. We are the world, so let us change what we are, and in due course, make us and therefore the world, a better place.
The crisis is,derived from the fact that we have let people who worship at the alter of materialism fund the sciences,technologies,government and the religious factions.We have let these people fill our heads with useless garbage.They have used the earth and our minds as landfills, so to speak.Fill it up with garbage and the scene becomes a hot mess.You can no longer make sense or even come to righteous conclusions about how humans should behave on this planet.You go right along w/ the killing.
@Kostly Without the application of true wisdom, humanities advances will end in misery, suffering and destruction. If wisdom was king, like it once was, we would not find ourselves where we find ourselves today; in crisis. Many crises faces us and we believe the "authority" will take care of things. i.e. government, scientists and the like. If you haven't noticed, natural forces are aligning to destroy this systemic failure of capitalism/consumerism going global. Endless cycles of trash?
@Kostly Constantly taking from the earth only to dump the toxic mix back into her? This isn't very sane looking is it? Taking the earth's natural resources and turning them into HIGHLY toxic materials only to be dumped back on top of her. Not only that, but, into each one of us. Does this seem sane?So, since we are at a point where the machine has become to large to be stopped by humanity, we must rely on natural forces to stop it.It will be destroyed.We can't ever let this status quo go on.
Actually Understanding J.K. is Understanding Yourself. A Humble Request to Everyone : Let Us Put As Many Talks/Videos of J.K. As Possible on Youtube. Endless Thanks to Everyone!
@swedstar84 not even close. you dont; punish, you only live differently and teach others to do the same.
you are a lost soul and far from love. weak. I only say this so others see YOU. zeitgeist wants to use what works....nature. a commonality of ALL life. its not only about human beings...its about life.
@dubkult This speech is actually very related to the message of the Zeitgeist films. Before social change can occur, there must first be a revolution of social consciousness. That is the central aim of the zeitgeist movement.
@ArcadianGenesis I guess it's related on a surface level as Krishnamurti is referring to a metaphorical revolution. but it is a metaphor and what he's referring to is an internal "revolution" of individual consciousness - one in which the very concept of identity (who you think you are) is transcended.
@dubkult Yes, and that is indeed what the Zeitgeist Movement calls for. The revolution of the mind is the true location of any revolution. Before action can occur, the mind must change accordingly. In TZM, we intend to create a social revolution in the long run. But in the short run, our goal is simply to create this "revolution of the mind" which Krishnamurti spoke of.
@swedstar84 the thing that he wanted to achive, is as same as zeitgeists ! love! man, just share your love that you got in yoursalf! do not judge others, just help them! we are all one! and life IS JUST a ride. . .
Krishnamurti was well aware of the crisys which has (at least in some degree) probably been around ever since the human being formed consiousness and with that came the realisation of one's ultime demise - death.
This fact alone makes us humans very liable to any form of seduction that takes our minds away from the thought of dieing and today with all the TV, games and other entertainment, out brain is so used to work from response instead of creation, thus leading us further into the crisys.
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and instruct mankind from time to time, but where they ever understood?That is why Krishnamurti said : "to understand is to change, and since we haven`t changed means that we never have understood.....
this gravelpit of hate is unknowkn to holy men, that is the reason why they forgive their enemies for the harm that is done to them.This world`s miserable state today implements that mankind hasn`t changed a bit, evolution takes place on a physical level, not on a consciousness level, which implies that consciousness is not bonded to nature.There is no saviour today, there no Jezus, no Buddha, no Krishna, only their message.Prophets are born to change mankind and consciousness....
this gravelpit of hate is unknowkn to holy men, that is the reason why they forgive their enemies for the harm that is done to them.This world`s miserable state today implements that mankind hasn`t changed a bit, evolution takes place on a physical level, not on a consciousness level, which implies that consciousness is not bonded to nature.There is no saviour today, there no Jezus, no Buddha, no Krishna, only their message.Prophets are born to change mankind and consciousness....
I think this is what Krishnamurti is saying :He talks about the source of sorrow of mankind,It is the barbaric nature of men which creates the problems of the world.Along this nature society is build, which only infuses these errors.By building a society around this nature , one captures himself as an endless wheel of sorrow, a prisoner of his own device,running after worldly pleasures, our greed,our jealousy.This is where hate
@Thizzilin true man...think about it...if people would compete in helping the weak and fighting so called authorities, basically compete in being a decent, honest, thinking human being, rather than getting ahead in society at any cost...you know...
@mongolenpup no because then your reasons for helping and fighting become tainted with intent of competition not intent for the actual act of helping or fighting for freedom.. BUT i would like to say I'm for competition as sport. then it becomes creative, but only if done as a commune.
"Because in this there is no teacher, no pupil; there is no leader; there is no guru; there is no Master, no Saviour. You yourself are the teacher and the pupil; you are the Master; you are the guru; you are the leader; you are everything." -- J. Krishnamurti
"Diziamos, o quão importante é trazer à luz da mente humana, a revolucão radical. A crise é uma crise que não pode continuar a aceitar as velhas normas, os antigos padrões, as tradições antigas e considerando o que o mundo é neste momento, com toda a miséria, conflito, brutalidade destrutiva e por aí fora. O homem é ainda, como já o era, brutal, violento, agressivo, acumulador, competitivo. E... construiu uma sociedade nestes termos." Jiddu Krishnamurti
you know what is sad? to have to listen somebody else and learn you so simple things things that we had to understand alone without reading or listening ...just listening our consiousnces if we have right? :)
Vipassana meditation is exactlly that. teaches u not to identify with your thoughts and search deep insinde:insight meditation.thats why buddhism is not a religion is a techniq to end human suffering. "Believe nothing,no matter where you red it,who has said it,no matter if i have said it unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sence" Siddhārtha Gautama the Buddha. watch a great movie "doing time doing vipassana" to understand the meditation or go to dhamma.org . peace&love all
it's funny how right the zeitgeist movie is about the sheeple ,trying to break down that movie as brainwashing ,while theyre the brainwashed ones in the monetairy world.
if you cant take that in your mind. and decide to change. and educate. then your ignorance has overcome you. and you are a product. and you push yourself away from a harmonious lifestyle that usnt just some 'hippie' idea. its something that we all want. tranquility. think. please
@aristicolombia do not need to feel guilty. Live in the NOW do not worry about the past (guilty thoughts) or the future which has not happened. Do not need to judge, compare yourself to anyone, no need to label - just look at "what is". Then if you see something you do not like, just ask "why?" and answer it honestly. You have to be extremely honest and brave... Have a good life :-)
We are beings of pure energy who's will it is to experience what it is to be human. We never die; only transformed to the next dimention. We are all part of being and life is constant. If it wen't we would not be; nor would its life force be. Please do not think too much into it; rather just look deeply into nature and see for your self its abilities.
Life as we know it is changing rapidly for such insulting talks and postings as these here. Everything evolves; -yet, remains unchanged within its life force. Look deeply within nature and you will understand that nothing really changes ...it only evolves. Everything are parts of itself and dimentionally stable.
Krishnamurti speaks to humanity as a whole, why wouldn't he want to be affiliated with the ZM? Maybe their ideas are too ambitious for most people, shows how much we've been subjugated n stupified, to the point where we chastise one another for daring to imagine a better world, it's f#*^in' pathetic
I think he made a point at several times he was not affiliated with anything whatsoever and did not want to be.
"'Truth is a pathless land. Man cannot come to it through any organisation, through any creed, through any dogma, priest or ritual, not through any philosophical knowledge or psychological technique" - from 'The Core of the teachings'
Regardless of lots of truth and facts being said I find it Too extereme, too futuristic and too similar to church of scientology phylosophy. All problem can be solved by individuals trying to have balanced diet, balanced thoughts and balanced conduct. More importantly POPULATION reduction/control which has not been addressed by any of this vedios preachers.something many Europeans have. Americans have always been too extereme.
Dont think he would be happy to be associated with this zeitgeist business... not that it isnt a great documentary, but it is coming from an angle and the orwelian venus project is a contradiction in itself.
No, it's not new age, it's mindfulness, that is the essence of Krishnamurti's message. Mindfulness is scientifically proven to have huge benefits for health, there's even brain scans showing it to be so.
Where have you done your 'homework and digging?' prison planet? lol where's your evidence that NWO people are behind this? I've asked this of an awful lot of people and not a single person has produced a shred of evidence of NWO funding for this.
Prison planet ? I dont like Alex Jones....How can u understand what is NWO if u havent read the critics of New Age ?? Any system needs an ideology to sustain the structure...and often this ideology is hidden or dressed up just behind a liberating paradigm...Read "stripping the Gurus" or about the pseudo orientaliszation of the west through payed selected charismatic gurus...creationism and aliens are also part of the scam...
Critics of the New Age? Everyone pretty much covers that. David Icke, Michael Tsarion, etc. all expose the New Age stuff, yet people ignorantly call them New Age. Krishnamurti is another person that would completely reject all New Age stuff, yet people call him New Age.
U make me laugh...David Icke reptilinean funny theory is part of this creationism new age kind of nonsense...Tsarion even worst..;and i have heard the history of Khrisnamurti from the mouth of indian people within India and many of this gurus have not a good preputation amog educated indians...
I have Icke's books. He openly and blatantly rejects New Age and even exposes it's hidden roots and fake gurus. Tsarion also critiques the New Age. Where's your facts? You're just relying on hurt feelings. I wouldn't even matter if Krishnamurti worked for the Illuminati, his words are absolutely true. It's the philosophy that is important. Bash his character all you want. Please, before you spout nonsense about Icke being New Age, please do your research. This is just plain ignorance.
Oh dear you're really delirious. Creationism and aliens are part of a NWO scam? not a particularly effective one is it? You keep on harping on about this book as if it's irrefutable evidence. I don't think you'd know truth if it bit you on your ass, neither would I. The difference is I admit it, you just make claims without any evidence to back them up.
You don't even make sense, "U comment is very telling of U level" What?
I think you're a bullshitter. All this Socioethnology crap, I don't believe a word of it. Link me to your work please. Also, please provide evidence of orientalisation of the west. if anything it's the reverse, everything's being westernised, you're aware of globalisation aren't you?
That's fine you don't agree with zeitgeist but please critique it properly, don't just make statements with no evidence to back them up.
Creationism satisfies those who believe that we were made by ET ( many new agers believe so )..evolutionism is another lie too...and "aliens" are been made in labs genetically modified for dummies to believe in the end of the world in 2012..the monstruosities we may be see in the future are just lab made like many viruses or Zombies ect ect ..
This indian guru is part of the new age..there is not reincarnation or anything like...accept u mortality and enjoy this life coz there is not any other.
OK now you've really outed yourself as a total moron. Creationism is about christian god, not ET (unless you put them in the same bracket). Christianity's been around for thousands of years and people have always believed in god, creationism is just their pathetic attempt to scientifically justify it.
The bit where you out yourself as a moron is your denial of evolutionism, despite the masses of evidence proving it, masses and masses and masses.
Do you honestly believe that the west has been pseudo orientalized? Rightly or wrongly most people don't listen to people like Krishnamurti. What really strikes me is you seam to think zeitgeist is all about Krishnmaurti when he only takes up 3 minutes of the film and none of that is analyses, just a snippet of his speech.
The fact is we do have a crisis of consciousness, thought has caused all these problems, even David Bohm said this is the case.
Sorry but i have watched Zeitgeist and all the videos related many times and in slow motion...alone and with friends; to discuss them and this are my conclusions...sorry if i dont agree with u...Yes, the west have been pseudo orientalized and even more, it have been drowned into New Age nonsense by many new sects and ideologies of all kind ( from ecofacism to cults of diferent colours, spiritual dictatorship and hierarchies ) Now they are gurus for any need and for all tastes..sad and funny.
You've watched zeitgeist in slow motion? LOL! did you play it backwards to see if there's any hidden messages in it too? :-) So because you've discussed it with friends your conclusions are facts are they?
I see no evidence of the west being drowned in gurus, I've never come across a single person who follows a guru, nor do I see it mainstream media or anywhere else really.
Please, stop talking and reading. You say how educated you are and yet you just come across as a massive tool.
Mesmerizing hypnotism...a very known media tech used mostly in pubs to recruit soldiers...Do u knows what is mesmerizing ??? Have u ever made video or any audiovisual ? u can play with the speed of the images and also with the angles, colours ect to trick perception.
U comments are very telling of u level..dont insult me and get informed please..i work with 3D programs for audivisuals.Zeitgeist is just hypnotism using impacting images in a new age text.. Half truth can sell lies well packed.
Ooo you work with 3D audiovisuals too? What other talents does ye have? Wow what a revelation, people can slow down film? fuck! I never knew! Thanks for informing me!
I insult you because you're a fucking idiot, frankly. Aliens made in labs? lol on what evidence do you base this on? You seem to think something will happen in 2012 but it'll be government made. Nothing at all will happen in 2012, it'll just be another stupid year filled with idiots like you spouting their shit.
If zeitgeist is hypnotism, whats the shits around us? Zeitgeist is maybe 1/2 made up, but I make you ask more about whats going on.... In the end of Zeitgeist, there are some voices... Richard Alpert,Bill hicks... REad something aboout them, it will get you to more guys like Terence McKenna, Timothy Leary, Aldous Huxley, Hinduism and all those guys are connected With LSD and psychedelics and etc... Just Sh** up with NWO and educate yourself about those guys and what they were looking for...
You haven't responded to any of my requests to back up your bizarre claims about orientalisation, chemtrails, NWO etc. You completely ignored my point about mindfulness meditation, you ignored my point about David Bohm (do you even know he was?) and you even think i'm a paid agent! (if only!)
All you've done is make a load of noise, you've just made assertions with nothing to back them up. All you've said is "I've heard this from people" what people? what are their credentials?
Any of us can say anything (you've clearly demonstrated this) but it's just noise and speculation if you don't have anything to back up your assertions with.
Zeitgeist won't change anything anyway so I dunno why you're so worried about it. All i'm asking you is to back up what you're saying, that's all.
U love everything chewed for u without any effort in reasoning...Zeitgeist is having an impact in speeding the passing from this system to the NWO system...read the critics of new age and the critics of Zeitgeist or u can stay with only one point of view...sorry but i am a busy person and cant answer to u what it have took me a long time to learn..do u own research and stop insulting...
Zeitgeist is having no such impact at all. I have read the critics of zeitgeist, frankly they spout all the same bullshit that you do and, not surprisingly, produce no evidence for it, why? because there is none.
You seem to think I support zeitgeist fully, I don't, but there are truths in it. If you deny that then I really feel sorry for your children because with a mother like you they're just gonna be 3 more morons I have to put up with.
Do u own home work..it took me years to find out the hidden truth and u wont believe me anyway..u believe in gurus and i am just a simple person who have no intentions to convince anyone..read and find four yourself
I dont believe in any one trying to convince the others...Do u own research..
Suggestions of books -
" The hidden danger of the rainbow" "Stripping the gurus", "Karma Cola", " Fous dans l"inde" ( Crazy in India ) ect
So with all this 'homework' you've done you've concluded that there's a NWO plot to enslave humanity and everything, even scientifically verified things like evolutionism, is bullshit. WOW Bravo, what a productive use of your time lol.
You're a bullshitter, and not a very good one. I'll ask you again, show me your socioethnology work, show me your films you've made and i'll view them with open mind. Until such time you are a bullshitter, and everyone on here can see that.
@ChunderChunk did you see the talks krishnamurti had with david bohm?? that poor man (Bohm) after a few hours was so little and it shows on his face that he was shuttered by Jiddu's explorations! never suggestions or something like this! jiddu was the only human beeing that never throw somebodey something in they heads! he was just questioning!! QUESTION EVERYTHING! see for yourselfs, but you gotta loose your ego build in the western civilisation.. thats why just a few people even know about him
"...a crisis IN consciousness", to emphasize our inherent oneness in consciousness, our interconnectedness, this is a profound realization for me. When we all come to this realization maybe the conflict we suffer within and without will cease to be or is reduced drastically, at the very least.
The depth n supreme importance of the words of this conscious man, is lost in the immature, insignificant noise that passes for intellectual conversation by our societies standards. As he so eloquently put it, "the crisis is a crisis 'in' consciousness"!!!
well said. a crisis "IN" consciousness... and not "OF" wich make it totally wrong translation. The dharma is about living our lifes in an act of full counsciousness. :)
the guru is made by the people not by the person who speaks, unless the person calls to himself "guru",which would be arrogant and false, that person does not have the fault(sin) of it being, the culprits are the persons who call he "guru"
yeah we dont need gurus.we should think for ourselves.before the stereotypes were born.before god was invented.you should read the "ending of time" book.
human beings are a disease on this planet( thats from the matrix) and ive heard no better truth, jiddu elevated his thought and perception of life so high most of monkeys cant understand it, and also most choose to live in the dark consuming in your cave
Obataladance, the zeitgiest movement's Peter Joseph puts all of his movies that he make online for FREE, so if it spirituality has indeed become a commodity or a business as you say, then Peter is not a very good business man.
"....man is still as he was - he's still brutal, violent, aggressive, inquisitive, competitive,..........AND he has buitl a society along these lines."
that part touched me so deep it almost made me cry because its so true people are still in bondage of thier reptillian brains
Brings me great warmth to know that others are waking up in vast numbers. 50 years from now we'll all look back on this and laugh. 100 years from now we'll have reconciled the past and have moved forward; onward shall Man move to spaces and planes beyond.
I realy do hope that people would realy wake up and see that we are all living here/that we are the same and should work together.I read somewhere that in 2012 the magnetic points of the world will start to move and cause all sort of trouble in the nature. If this does happen we are fucked whitout total teamwork. (But who knows what the future holds) ^^
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U should read the book " Stripping the Gurus "...Krishnamurti suppostly had a hidden love affair for more than 20 years with the wife of a close friend...he was from the upper cast of India...when he died he made sure that any "untouchable" could "polluted" the place where he will be cremated...
I love India...my soul is in the Himalaya where i expend long time but there i also painfully learned how spirituality have become a commodity, tecnified, quantified, sold..Zeitgeist is the new market.
He was himself a guru thats why maybe he didnt believe gurus.. Read about how the western elites payed an army of chosen oriental gurus to confuse...i was in India for a long time...i felt so sad of realizing that the rainbow kids are the most mind manipulated of all but people take them as "open mind ' hippies...
"He was himself a guru thats why maybe he didnt believe gurus.."
Don't you mean: he 'could have' been mistaken for a guru?
Can you please explain about the rainbow kids? I have started reading 'Freedom from the Known' but I don't know all about K... I have read his wiki - I'm interested.
Looking at your profile has brought me to the realisation that you're a grade A nutcase. You've actually posted a video of an airplane flying leaving vapor trails and have suggested it's some sort of NWO mind control spray.
Seriously, please stop saying you read and travel alot because it will prevent others from doing it in fear of ending up like you.
I am not going to insult u coz i dont want to fall in your level but it even on TV in europe u can see public discussions about chemtrails...it have been accepted like in China with the recent creation of artificial snow... How much are u getting to ridiculise and insult people like me just for given their point of u ?? There many payed agents like u here in youtube..dont worry..i learned to deal with it...sorry but many Indian people are of the opinion that Khrisnmurti was a fake guru.
I didn't insult you, i think people like you are dangerous. I live in europe, I see no public discussions about chemtrails and I watch alot of current affairs programs. Chemtrails is bullshit, just like 9/11 being an inside job is bullshit, just like the existence of shape shifting reptiles and a shadowy NWO elite is bullshit. All this crap takes a person's attention away from the real villains.
The fact you think i'm a paid agent speaks volumes about your state of mind.
about the money system too i was confused in the video cus i live in canada and didnt know if our taxes were paid to the central bank also so i researhed it and found out that yes in fact it does go to the government then in turn they pay the central bank. so since it goes to the government first we are obliged to pay, im still researching ways to get around this cus our hard earned money SHOULD NOT be paid out to people eventually working or connected with the bliderberg group.
There are great ignorings about economics, in the documentary. Only money theories of classical economists are told and bank money is showed as if it was an illusion. It makes people feel they are ripped off but that's not true at all.
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This is what they want us to believe, that we are unable to think and unable to care for ourselves of our planet...so here they are with their problem solution scheme..This is wrong !!!! Most people are good hearted...most people are capable to think and care..there is just a small group of bad humans who spoils our existence..We..the vast majority, the ocean of flesh and bones will get them when the time will arrive..
i look around at the world right now andsumthing is seriously fucked up,war,diease,femine,pestilence,murder, torture. people especially americans are blind, they cant open there eyes to see whats happening here, enlightenment is a step in the right direction and the zeitgeist movement is reaching out towards tht goal, we are growing and ever expanding, knowledge is the key to survival. knowledge and a better understanding of the human condition
Have a look here in youtube of the " illuminati card game " of Steve Jackson, made since 1995...u will be surprise of seen a card of a couple of "hippies peace and love" beating up a man in the name of "peace"...They are the one who will force all of us to live in "communities" ( rather i will call it concentration camps )... The New agers are the mind manipulated victims who will go against the rest to "save" Gaia..The Gaia dying scam again. Pathetic.
Same effort Zeitgeist is using to convice us...I criticize it everywhere coz i am a Socioethnologist especialized in Multiculturality and when i was in India i met many westerners New Agers that thought that people with leprosy ( millions there) had it coz their "bad Karma".Then i went to see a hospital near Varanassi runned by expatriats and learned that to get healed from leprosy before a no turning point, it cost 30 dollars ONLY per person but they dont have it. New Age is fake propaganda
I agree with you about new age, I can't stand it. Krishnamurti isn't, however, new age. In essence all Krishnamurti taught was midnfulness, exactly what the Budda taught. Unfortunately all these teachings have been distorted by the very things you mention, like drugs, fake gurus etc.
Yeah I read the chapter on him, can read it online. Was interesting, however it doesn't really prove anything. Yeah he wasn't perfect (name me a human who is?) but does this mean everything he said is to be disregarded? Watching him myself I find him to be a bit pompous but this doesn't really degrade his message.
He wasn't talking about being spiritual, he even said he has no idea what spiritual means. His message can be summed up in one word "look" that's it.
By the way I am a woman, mother of 3 children who read alot and travel alot too.I dont belong to any cult or religion but while many were buying expenses cars and clothing i was backpacking this world several times.I got nothing personally against the producers of this film, just i dont agree with the content neither with the hidden intentions. Sorry but to me Zeitgeist is the new religion of the ignorants, of those who never read anything about history or religion.
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YOU MUST BE SICK MINDED AND CRAZY TO WANT TO LISTEN TO THIS NEW WORLD ORDER SCUM. GO BACK TO YOUR CHRISTIAN RELIGION AND VALUES, BEFORE YOU LOOSE YOUR PATH.
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I keep coming back to listen to this wonderful insightful man. He keeps the brain ticking and the blood flowing. Brilliant stuff.
Cardywhite111 1 week ago
What god do you warship?? The god of sun,war,love,...!? As you can see man creates god on his image and viceversa....so open you're Mind a start think out of the box!!
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Paulo79br 2 months ago
1.A) Galera, o que vcs não entendem é que zeitgeist expressa através do projeto vênus a teoria marxista-comunista.... Zeitgeist utiliza em grande parte fontes teosóficas. A teosofia foi fundada por Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, uma luciferiana que é a mãe da nova ordem mundial e da sociedade teosófica, cujos membros são os elitistas que vcs aqui tem "nojo", mas não conseguem desmembrar do sistema capitalista e deste modo não percebem que só há poucas laranjas podres no saco e não o saco inteiro.
Paulo79br 2 months ago
@Paulo79br Tecnocracia...
gabrieloshiro 1 month ago
i will always be grateful that i came across PJ's film for he introduced me to much , like Jiddu Krishnamurti.
wer1planet 3 months ago
he is awakened, it seems that his method of teaching is not for everyone..
someone prefer more objective experience while other subjective....
if you cant feel something in you is wrong when this man talks then this method is not right for you. Find another external teacher to guide you through this journey to find your own inner guru. Peace
bonoxmau 3 months ago
this guy is Mythic
diogotomediogo 3 months ago in playlist Favoritos de diogotomediogo
See I once was a Christian n then I started doing this idiotic thing called...THINKING.
MrAshaka1 5 months ago 2
This is dangerous deception. "men as gods" ...he says we must move away from ancient ways, yet this lie was perpetrated since humanity began. Wake up people! Jesus is the only God who came in the flesh to testify of the truth. There is only one creator God and our salvation comes through him only. You want life eternal?; then listen to Jesus, believe in Him alone and turn away from your sins. It's that simple!
thisprophecy 5 months ago
you've never found the real meaning in life, to blame Jesus it's equal to admit that heis responsible for every single action that YOU take by saying: he's the one who has inspired me................. You need a mirror there..........brother
janetkoele65 5 months ago
@janetkoele65 Jesus is God, are you missing something here?
thisprophecy 4 months ago
@thisprophecy Fail.... you fail to understand... You fail to understand even what jesus told...
Vladir69 4 months ago
@thisprophecy Literally what you said promoted no logical process of determining action or belief. But out of fear you are relying on something outside of you to trust and rely on so you do not have to worry. Until I left christianity I never felt true happiness. It is simply a crutch when one is incapable of taking care of their life themselves.
karatecloutier77 4 months ago
what is that beautiful music
kyeran1234 5 months ago
What does zeigeist know about krishnamurti? :)
DeadJesus100 6 months ago
i am the walrus i am the eggman
Jangaboo 6 months ago
we r really need a changes
JOHAUK86 6 months ago
i am curious to the story of those 7 people who dont like this video
kenpachi480 6 months ago
If only everyone could hear this and, just maybe, do it - there would be no more sheep and the evil corporatocracy would be toppled...
2010VinnieR 7 months ago
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Because in this there is no teacher, no pupil; there is no leader; there is no guru; there is no Master, no Saviour."
Yes there is. He is Jesus Christ. Maybe Krishnamurti didn't know Him but you can know Him. He is Lord, Master, Savior, and Son of God. He died for our sins and He is the ONLY way out of this mess that is this world.
"I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father but by Me." -Jesus
nodoubt257 7 months ago
i saw this vid on the blog page of The Mental Revolution 2012 (tmr2012.com) and was blown away as to how relevant his words still ring 2day!
ppitsaras 7 months ago
i never cry normaly but this... we are supposed to be loving beings, but there is so much pain and hatred
Andorage 7 months ago
Is there a transcript for this?
stinknus 8 months ago
That touched something inside me, I do not know what to call it, it could be the heart, it could be the soul, or it could be an illusion of the mind, however, this is neither here, nor there. Change needs to begin. Change is now. If the world lets it be so. We are the world, so let us change what we are, and in due course, make us and therefore the world, a better place.
keaney123321 8 months ago
RIP sweet, wise man.
scarto70 8 months ago
my brain just broke...
waro77 8 months ago 2
this is just beautiful... and Peter Joseph's music on the background makes it just perfect! Thumbs up!
vjanicek 9 months ago
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human2011able 9 months ago
The crisis is,derived from the fact that we have let people who worship at the alter of materialism fund the sciences,technologies,government and the religious factions.We have let these people fill our heads with useless garbage.They have used the earth and our minds as landfills, so to speak.Fill it up with garbage and the scene becomes a hot mess.You can no longer make sense or even come to righteous conclusions about how humans should behave on this planet.You go right along w/ the killing.
Kostly 10 months ago
@Kostly Without the application of true wisdom, humanities advances will end in misery, suffering and destruction. If wisdom was king, like it once was, we would not find ourselves where we find ourselves today; in crisis. Many crises faces us and we believe the "authority" will take care of things. i.e. government, scientists and the like. If you haven't noticed, natural forces are aligning to destroy this systemic failure of capitalism/consumerism going global. Endless cycles of trash?
Kostly 10 months ago
@Kostly Constantly taking from the earth only to dump the toxic mix back into her? This isn't very sane looking is it? Taking the earth's natural resources and turning them into HIGHLY toxic materials only to be dumped back on top of her. Not only that, but, into each one of us. Does this seem sane?So, since we are at a point where the machine has become to large to be stopped by humanity, we must rely on natural forces to stop it.It will be destroyed.We can't ever let this status quo go on.
Kostly 10 months ago
You are the guru, the master and the teacher. You are all a part of me. I love you all
TheDavebowman123 10 months ago 29
@TheDavebowman123 I love you too random stranger
arthursaey 2 months ago
Conscientiology is the most important field to be studied.
hcrpyc 11 months ago
Actually Understanding J.K. is Understanding Yourself. A Humble Request to Everyone : Let Us Put As Many Talks/Videos of J.K. As Possible on Youtube. Endless Thanks to Everyone!
human2011able 11 months ago
@swedstar84 definition of zeitgeist- 1.
ideas and spirit of time: the ideas prevalent in a period and place, particularly as expressed in literature, philosophy, and religion
adhu8510 11 months ago
@swedstar84 not even close. you dont; punish, you only live differently and teach others to do the same.
you are a lost soul and far from love. weak. I only say this so others see YOU. zeitgeist wants to use what works....nature. a commonality of ALL life. its not only about human beings...its about life.
TheBerserker50 11 months ago
this talk is nothing to do with zeitgeist - it's much deeper than this made up zeitgeist nonsense.
dubkult 1 year ago
@dubkult This speech is actually very related to the message of the Zeitgeist films. Before social change can occur, there must first be a revolution of social consciousness. That is the central aim of the zeitgeist movement.
ArcadianGenesis 1 year ago
@ArcadianGenesis I guess it's related on a surface level as Krishnamurti is referring to a metaphorical revolution. but it is a metaphor and what he's referring to is an internal "revolution" of individual consciousness - one in which the very concept of identity (who you think you are) is transcended.
dubkult 1 year ago
@dubkult Yes, and that is indeed what the Zeitgeist Movement calls for. The revolution of the mind is the true location of any revolution. Before action can occur, the mind must change accordingly. In TZM, we intend to create a social revolution in the long run. But in the short run, our goal is simply to create this "revolution of the mind" which Krishnamurti spoke of.
ArcadianGenesis 1 year ago
Puta madre! y que me quedo callado...
BorisKid 1 year ago
7 ppl didnt got the meaning of this speech
i feel sorry for you
awesome thanks for the upload _o_
kenpachi480 1 year ago
@swedstar84 JI think the director choosed Jiddu Krishnamurti just because he describes our present time applicable.
23slider23 1 year ago
Listening to this gives me goosebumps.
Slicc7 1 year ago 4
@swedstar84 the thing that he wanted to achive, is as same as zeitgeists ! love! man, just share your love that you got in yoursalf! do not judge others, just help them! we are all one! and life IS JUST a ride. . .
Rocky7ss7 1 year ago 16
@Rocky7ss7 i agree with u completely!
TheBillibabu 1 year ago
@TheBillibabu :) <3
Rocky7ss7 1 year ago
what's the track?
itrancesoul 1 year ago
Krishnamurti was well aware of the crisys which has (at least in some degree) probably been around ever since the human being formed consiousness and with that came the realisation of one's ultime demise - death.
This fact alone makes us humans very liable to any form of seduction that takes our minds away from the thought of dieing and today with all the TV, games and other entertainment, out brain is so used to work from response instead of creation, thus leading us further into the crisys.
pingvinch96 1 year ago
... and to undertand is to transform what is.
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graywackeknifebdr 1 year ago
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and instruct mankind from time to time, but where they ever understood?That is why Krishnamurti said : "to understand is to change, and since we haven`t changed means that we never have understood.....
arier0135813 1 year ago
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this gravelpit of hate is unknowkn to holy men, that is the reason why they forgive their enemies for the harm that is done to them.This world`s miserable state today implements that mankind hasn`t changed a bit, evolution takes place on a physical level, not on a consciousness level, which implies that consciousness is not bonded to nature.There is no saviour today, there no Jezus, no Buddha, no Krishna, only their message.Prophets are born to change mankind and consciousness....
arier0135813 1 year ago
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this gravelpit of hate is unknowkn to holy men, that is the reason why they forgive their enemies for the harm that is done to them.This world`s miserable state today implements that mankind hasn`t changed a bit, evolution takes place on a physical level, not on a consciousness level, which implies that consciousness is not bonded to nature.There is no saviour today, there no Jezus, no Buddha, no Krishna, only their message.Prophets are born to change mankind and consciousness....
arier0135813 1 year ago
I think this is what Krishnamurti is saying :He talks about the source of sorrow of mankind,It is the barbaric nature of men which creates the problems of the world.Along this nature society is build, which only infuses these errors.By building a society around this nature , one captures himself as an endless wheel of sorrow, a prisoner of his own device,running after worldly pleasures, our greed,our jealousy.This is where hate
towards others comes from.......
arier0135813 1 year ago
The most inspiring thing I have ever listened to.
Kaschperl 1 year ago 2
@swedstar84 and what zeitgeist really wanted to say was "think for yourself" :)
UnknownRex 1 year ago
This brought tears to my eyes
Djamel91 1 year ago
Competitiveness is not a bad thing...but people compete in the wrong things.
mongolenpup 1 year ago
@mongolenpup not true
Thizzilin 1 year ago
@Thizzilin true man...think about it...if people would compete in helping the weak and fighting so called authorities, basically compete in being a decent, honest, thinking human being, rather than getting ahead in society at any cost...you know...
mongolenpup 1 year ago
@mongolenpup no because then your reasons for helping and fighting become tainted with intent of competition not intent for the actual act of helping or fighting for freedom.. BUT i would like to say I'm for competition as sport. then it becomes creative, but only if done as a commune.
Thizzilin 1 year ago
Amazing, simply amazing.
rhinelandcr 1 year ago
people commenting on zeitgeist are not listening to the man, and thats a shame.
colloredbrothers 1 year ago 2
"Because in this there is no teacher, no pupil; there is no leader; there is no guru; there is no Master, no Saviour. You yourself are the teacher and the pupil; you are the Master; you are the guru; you are the leader; you are everything." -- J. Krishnamurti
BTNH24 1 year ago 2
@BTNH24
that's hardcore buddhist thought..atleast the first buddha! :)
TenTonTommy777 1 year ago
mulefa shoot ur self body and rest in peace)) it's a joke,better open ur mind and except the radical changes
JOHAUK86 1 year ago
"Diziamos, o quão importante é trazer à luz da mente humana, a revolucão radical. A crise é uma crise que não pode continuar a aceitar as velhas normas, os antigos padrões, as tradições antigas e considerando o que o mundo é neste momento, com toda a miséria, conflito, brutalidade destrutiva e por aí fora. O homem é ainda, como já o era, brutal, violento, agressivo, acumulador, competitivo. E... construiu uma sociedade nestes termos." Jiddu Krishnamurti
Anniyor 1 year ago 3
Lintening this man speaking, give me a deep peace and happy.
Raonif1 1 year ago
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Zeitgeist or Shitgeist Communist manifesto part 2. Not only that Dave D Rothachild likes it.
mulefa 1 year ago
First time i saw this speech i feelt soooo happy that i apparently wasn't -that- lonely of thinkin' like this!! THAT GUY IS AWESOME!!!!! ^^
VJ89VJ 1 year ago
Zeitgeist is the real thing. What is needed is a transformation of the mind - and I believe it to be possible.
selvmordspilot 1 year ago
Krishnamurti is a New World Order pawn (or was), probably with out knowing it.
ZEITGEIST is hardcore New World Order propaganda mixed in with the truth.
WeAreChangeWA 1 year ago
you know what is sad? to have to listen somebody else and learn you so simple things things that we had to understand alone without reading or listening ...just listening our consiousnces if we have right? :)
PhaedraPurs 1 year ago
@PhaedraPurs
joshuancts 1 year ago
Vipassana meditation is exactlly that. teaches u not to identify with your thoughts and search deep insinde:insight meditation.thats why buddhism is not a religion is a techniq to end human suffering. "Believe nothing,no matter where you red it,who has said it,no matter if i have said it unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sence" Siddhārtha Gautama the Buddha. watch a great movie "doing time doing vipassana" to understand the meditation or go to dhamma.org . peace&love all
noriega28 1 year ago
it's funny how right the zeitgeist movie is about the sheeple ,trying to break down that movie as brainwashing ,while theyre the brainwashed ones in the monetairy world.
Tetrahedron604 1 year ago
if you cant take that in your mind. and decide to change. and educate. then your ignorance has overcome you. and you are a product. and you push yourself away from a harmonious lifestyle that usnt just some 'hippie' idea. its something that we all want. tranquility. think. please
theforgetable 2 years ago 9
Very beautifully said !
Ckordobah 1 year ago
This is so powerful...this man is brilliant.
lorusky 2 years ago 84
@lorusky Not the man, but the message.
Kaschperl 10 months ago
Genius
smokethepancakes 2 years ago 4
After listening to this i feel guilty and he is absolutely righ
aristicolombia 2 years ago 46
@aristicolombia do not need to feel guilty. Live in the NOW do not worry about the past (guilty thoughts) or the future which has not happened. Do not need to judge, compare yourself to anyone, no need to label - just look at "what is". Then if you see something you do not like, just ask "why?" and answer it honestly. You have to be extremely honest and brave... Have a good life :-)
VikLightbringer 6 months ago
We are beings of pure energy who's will it is to experience what it is to be human. We never die; only transformed to the next dimention. We are all part of being and life is constant. If it wen't we would not be; nor would its life force be. Please do not think too much into it; rather just look deeply into nature and see for your self its abilities.
Aonexia 2 years ago
Life as we know it is changing rapidly for such insulting talks and postings as these here. Everything evolves; -yet, remains unchanged within its life force. Look deeply within nature and you will understand that nothing really changes ...it only evolves. Everything are parts of itself and dimentionally stable.
Aonexia 2 years ago
Krishnamurti speaks to humanity as a whole, why wouldn't he want to be affiliated with the ZM? Maybe their ideas are too ambitious for most people, shows how much we've been subjugated n stupified, to the point where we chastise one another for daring to imagine a better world, it's f#*^in' pathetic
IllPhl01 2 years ago
I think he made a point at several times he was not affiliated with anything whatsoever and did not want to be.
"'Truth is a pathless land. Man cannot come to it through any organisation, through any creed, through any dogma, priest or ritual, not through any philosophical knowledge or psychological technique" - from 'The Core of the teachings'
jockejocke80 1 year ago
Regardless of lots of truth and facts being said I find it Too extereme, too futuristic and too similar to church of scientology phylosophy. All problem can be solved by individuals trying to have balanced diet, balanced thoughts and balanced conduct. More importantly POPULATION reduction/control which has not been addressed by any of this vedios preachers.something many Europeans have. Americans have always been too extereme.
legendry001 2 years ago
Dont think he would be happy to be associated with this zeitgeist business... not that it isnt a great documentary, but it is coming from an angle and the orwelian venus project is a contradiction in itself.
gyspyspirit1 2 years ago
how come
zeitgeist shows the problem in our society
and offer the best solution
where is contradiction ?
WishingBones 2 years ago 2
It is New Age dressed up as a liberating speech...do u home work and more digging if u want to find the real people behind it..
Obataladance 2 years ago
No, it's not new age, it's mindfulness, that is the essence of Krishnamurti's message. Mindfulness is scientifically proven to have huge benefits for health, there's even brain scans showing it to be so.
Where have you done your 'homework and digging?' prison planet? lol where's your evidence that NWO people are behind this? I've asked this of an awful lot of people and not a single person has produced a shred of evidence of NWO funding for this.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
Prison planet ? I dont like Alex Jones....How can u understand what is NWO if u havent read the critics of New Age ?? Any system needs an ideology to sustain the structure...and often this ideology is hidden or dressed up just behind a liberating paradigm...Read "stripping the Gurus" or about the pseudo orientaliszation of the west through payed selected charismatic gurus...creationism and aliens are also part of the scam...
Obataladance 2 years ago
Critics of the New Age? Everyone pretty much covers that. David Icke, Michael Tsarion, etc. all expose the New Age stuff, yet people ignorantly call them New Age. Krishnamurti is another person that would completely reject all New Age stuff, yet people call him New Age.
BTNH24 2 years ago
U make me laugh...David Icke reptilinean funny theory is part of this creationism new age kind of nonsense...Tsarion even worst..;and i have heard the history of Khrisnamurti from the mouth of indian people within India and many of this gurus have not a good preputation amog educated indians...
Obataladance 2 years ago
I have Icke's books. He openly and blatantly rejects New Age and even exposes it's hidden roots and fake gurus. Tsarion also critiques the New Age. Where's your facts? You're just relying on hurt feelings. I wouldn't even matter if Krishnamurti worked for the Illuminati, his words are absolutely true. It's the philosophy that is important. Bash his character all you want. Please, before you spout nonsense about Icke being New Age, please do your research. This is just plain ignorance.
BTNH24 2 years ago
Oh dear you're really delirious. Creationism and aliens are part of a NWO scam? not a particularly effective one is it? You keep on harping on about this book as if it's irrefutable evidence. I don't think you'd know truth if it bit you on your ass, neither would I. The difference is I admit it, you just make claims without any evidence to back them up.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
U comment is very telling of u level...No time to waste...sorry
Obataladance 2 years ago
You don't even make sense, "U comment is very telling of U level" What?
I think you're a bullshitter. All this Socioethnology crap, I don't believe a word of it. Link me to your work please. Also, please provide evidence of orientalisation of the west. if anything it's the reverse, everything's being westernised, you're aware of globalisation aren't you?
That's fine you don't agree with zeitgeist but please critique it properly, don't just make statements with no evidence to back them up.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
Creationism satisfies those who believe that we were made by ET ( many new agers believe so )..evolutionism is another lie too...and "aliens" are been made in labs genetically modified for dummies to believe in the end of the world in 2012..the monstruosities we may be see in the future are just lab made like many viruses or Zombies ect ect ..
This indian guru is part of the new age..there is not reincarnation or anything like...accept u mortality and enjoy this life coz there is not any other.
Obataladance 2 years ago
OK now you've really outed yourself as a total moron. Creationism is about christian god, not ET (unless you put them in the same bracket). Christianity's been around for thousands of years and people have always believed in god, creationism is just their pathetic attempt to scientifically justify it.
The bit where you out yourself as a moron is your denial of evolutionism, despite the masses of evidence proving it, masses and masses and masses.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
get real :D
IHIICOD 1 year ago
Do you honestly believe that the west has been pseudo orientalized? Rightly or wrongly most people don't listen to people like Krishnamurti. What really strikes me is you seam to think zeitgeist is all about Krishnmaurti when he only takes up 3 minutes of the film and none of that is analyses, just a snippet of his speech.
The fact is we do have a crisis of consciousness, thought has caused all these problems, even David Bohm said this is the case.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
Sorry but i have watched Zeitgeist and all the videos related many times and in slow motion...alone and with friends; to discuss them and this are my conclusions...sorry if i dont agree with u...Yes, the west have been pseudo orientalized and even more, it have been drowned into New Age nonsense by many new sects and ideologies of all kind ( from ecofacism to cults of diferent colours, spiritual dictatorship and hierarchies ) Now they are gurus for any need and for all tastes..sad and funny.
Obataladance 2 years ago
You've watched zeitgeist in slow motion? LOL! did you play it backwards to see if there's any hidden messages in it too? :-) So because you've discussed it with friends your conclusions are facts are they?
I see no evidence of the west being drowned in gurus, I've never come across a single person who follows a guru, nor do I see it mainstream media or anywhere else really.
Please, stop talking and reading. You say how educated you are and yet you just come across as a massive tool.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
Mesmerizing hypnotism...a very known media tech used mostly in pubs to recruit soldiers...Do u knows what is mesmerizing ??? Have u ever made video or any audiovisual ? u can play with the speed of the images and also with the angles, colours ect to trick perception.
U comments are very telling of u level..dont insult me and get informed please..i work with 3D programs for audivisuals.Zeitgeist is just hypnotism using impacting images in a new age text.. Half truth can sell lies well packed.
Obataladance 2 years ago
Ooo you work with 3D audiovisuals too? What other talents does ye have? Wow what a revelation, people can slow down film? fuck! I never knew! Thanks for informing me!
I insult you because you're a fucking idiot, frankly. Aliens made in labs? lol on what evidence do you base this on? You seem to think something will happen in 2012 but it'll be government made. Nothing at all will happen in 2012, it'll just be another stupid year filled with idiots like you spouting their shit.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
If zeitgeist is hypnotism, whats the shits around us? Zeitgeist is maybe 1/2 made up, but I make you ask more about whats going on.... In the end of Zeitgeist, there are some voices... Richard Alpert,Bill hicks... REad something aboout them, it will get you to more guys like Terence McKenna, Timothy Leary, Aldous Huxley, Hinduism and all those guys are connected With LSD and psychedelics and etc... Just Sh** up with NWO and educate yourself about those guys and what they were looking for...
IHIICOD 1 year ago
You haven't responded to any of my requests to back up your bizarre claims about orientalisation, chemtrails, NWO etc. You completely ignored my point about mindfulness meditation, you ignored my point about David Bohm (do you even know he was?) and you even think i'm a paid agent! (if only!)
All you've done is make a load of noise, you've just made assertions with nothing to back them up. All you've said is "I've heard this from people" what people? what are their credentials?
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
Any of us can say anything (you've clearly demonstrated this) but it's just noise and speculation if you don't have anything to back up your assertions with.
Zeitgeist won't change anything anyway so I dunno why you're so worried about it. All i'm asking you is to back up what you're saying, that's all.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
U love everything chewed for u without any effort in reasoning...Zeitgeist is having an impact in speeding the passing from this system to the NWO system...read the critics of new age and the critics of Zeitgeist or u can stay with only one point of view...sorry but i am a busy person and cant answer to u what it have took me a long time to learn..do u own research and stop insulting...
Obataladance 2 years ago
Zeitgeist is having no such impact at all. I have read the critics of zeitgeist, frankly they spout all the same bullshit that you do and, not surprisingly, produce no evidence for it, why? because there is none.
You seem to think I support zeitgeist fully, I don't, but there are truths in it. If you deny that then I really feel sorry for your children because with a mother like you they're just gonna be 3 more morons I have to put up with.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
Do u own home work..it took me years to find out the hidden truth and u wont believe me anyway..u believe in gurus and i am just a simple person who have no intentions to convince anyone..read and find four yourself
I dont believe in any one trying to convince the others...Do u own research..
Suggestions of books -
" The hidden danger of the rainbow" "Stripping the gurus", "Karma Cola", " Fous dans l"inde" ( Crazy in India ) ect
Obataladance 2 years ago
So with all this 'homework' you've done you've concluded that there's a NWO plot to enslave humanity and everything, even scientifically verified things like evolutionism, is bullshit. WOW Bravo, what a productive use of your time lol.
You're a bullshitter, and not a very good one. I'll ask you again, show me your socioethnology work, show me your films you've made and i'll view them with open mind. Until such time you are a bullshitter, and everyone on here can see that.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
@ChunderChunk did you see the talks krishnamurti had with david bohm?? that poor man (Bohm) after a few hours was so little and it shows on his face that he was shuttered by Jiddu's explorations! never suggestions or something like this! jiddu was the only human beeing that never throw somebodey something in they heads! he was just questioning!! QUESTION EVERYTHING! see for yourselfs, but you gotta loose your ego build in the western civilisation.. thats why just a few people even know about him
bojanalex007 1 year ago
Krishnamurti is an Atheist. How is that New Age? Do your homework. He broke away with and rejected the Theosophical Society.
BTNH24 2 years ago
He was an indian upper class who reject the poor "untouchables"
Obataladance 2 years ago
He was a very high class indian who disliked the poorest...who used the cast system as any indian based in nonsense...
When i was in India, the cast system made me vomit as much as this guru....
Obataladance 2 years ago
What a sad misinterpretation of what he stood for.
Pinch0fSalt 2 years ago
"...a crisis IN consciousness", to emphasize our inherent oneness in consciousness, our interconnectedness, this is a profound realization for me. When we all come to this realization maybe the conflict we suffer within and without will cease to be or is reduced drastically, at the very least.
IllPhl01 2 years ago 4
excellent video !! great man!! great mind!!
MrEddievader 2 years ago
The depth n supreme importance of the words of this conscious man, is lost in the immature, insignificant noise that passes for intellectual conversation by our societies standards. As he so eloquently put it, "the crisis is a crisis 'in' consciousness"!!!
IllPhl01 2 years ago
well said. a crisis "IN" consciousness... and not "OF" wich make it totally wrong translation. The dharma is about living our lifes in an act of full counsciousness. :)
hidingson 2 years ago
the power of his voice, amazing person, too bad hes gone, still a legend.
pete6851 2 years ago
This is something i would tell my children, if i had any. Great movie !
gogutten79 2 years ago
Maybe he only seems crazy by society's standards, but then again society has been founded on religion so...
savagebaboon 2 years ago
Empowering, inspiring...
IllPhl01 2 years ago
A brilliant man if not a lil bit crazy, all the great men were however.
gsdkain 2 years ago
Great Video
savagebaboon 2 years ago
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Aonexia 2 years ago
the guru is made by the people not by the person who speaks, unless the person calls to himself "guru",which would be arrogant and false, that person does not have the fault(sin) of it being, the culprits are the persons who call he "guru"
jamonyqueso42 2 years ago
yeah we dont need gurus.we should think for ourselves.before the stereotypes were born.before god was invented.you should read the "ending of time" book.
moxito1 2 years ago
human beings are a disease on this planet( thats from the matrix) and ive heard no better truth, jiddu elevated his thought and perception of life so high most of monkeys cant understand it, and also most choose to live in the dark consuming in your cave
frontside5 2 years ago 3
Obataladance, the zeitgiest movement's Peter Joseph puts all of his movies that he make online for FREE, so if it spirituality has indeed become a commodity or a business as you say, then Peter is not a very good business man.
ILLUM1NATUS 2 years ago
"....man is still as he was - he's still brutal, violent, aggressive, inquisitive, competitive,..........AND he has buitl a society along these lines."
that part touched me so deep it almost made me cry because its so true people are still in bondage of thier reptillian brains
teched246 2 years ago 9
dude, you don't know me but i see you commenting on the most subjects that i found interesting.
Fight club, waking life, existentialism clips, philosophy, krishnamurti, natural born killers, george carlin vids and many more. Lost soul ? :)
keep educating yourself man. You're doing just fine. Keep it up, cheers.
texasB666 2 years ago
Brings me great warmth to know that others are waking up in vast numbers. 50 years from now we'll all look back on this and laugh. 100 years from now we'll have reconciled the past and have moved forward; onward shall Man move to spaces and planes beyond.
teched246 2 years ago
it depends on us man. But i already smile. remember that you are everything. i know you are..
texasB666 2 years ago
My brother
teched246 2 years ago
I realy do hope that people would realy wake up and see that we are all living here/that we are the same and should work together.I read somewhere that in 2012 the magnetic points of the world will start to move and cause all sort of trouble in the nature. If this does happen we are fucked whitout total teamwork. (But who knows what the future holds) ^^
Axnarax 2 years ago
ALL MAN MADE
Obataladance 2 years ago
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U should read the book " Stripping the Gurus "...Krishnamurti suppostly had a hidden love affair for more than 20 years with the wife of a close friend...he was from the upper cast of India...when he died he made sure that any "untouchable" could "polluted" the place where he will be cremated...
I love India...my soul is in the Himalaya where i expend long time but there i also painfully learned how spirituality have become a commodity, tecnified, quantified, sold..Zeitgeist is the new market.
Obataladance 2 years ago
u should stop read any books :P greetings
swedstar84 2 years ago
J. Krishnamurti did not believe in gurus...
Edel99 2 years ago
He was himself a guru thats why maybe he didnt believe gurus.. Read about how the western elites payed an army of chosen oriental gurus to confuse...i was in India for a long time...i felt so sad of realizing that the rainbow kids are the most mind manipulated of all but people take them as "open mind ' hippies...
Obataladance 2 years ago
"He was himself a guru thats why maybe he didnt believe gurus.."
Don't you mean: he 'could have' been mistaken for a guru?
Can you please explain about the rainbow kids? I have started reading 'Freedom from the Known' but I don't know all about K... I have read his wiki - I'm interested.
Edel99 2 years ago
Looking at your profile has brought me to the realisation that you're a grade A nutcase. You've actually posted a video of an airplane flying leaving vapor trails and have suggested it's some sort of NWO mind control spray.
Seriously, please stop saying you read and travel alot because it will prevent others from doing it in fear of ending up like you.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
I am not going to insult u coz i dont want to fall in your level but it even on TV in europe u can see public discussions about chemtrails...it have been accepted like in China with the recent creation of artificial snow... How much are u getting to ridiculise and insult people like me just for given their point of u ?? There many payed agents like u here in youtube..dont worry..i learned to deal with it...sorry but many Indian people are of the opinion that Khrisnmurti was a fake guru.
Obataladance 2 years ago
I didn't insult you, i think people like you are dangerous. I live in europe, I see no public discussions about chemtrails and I watch alot of current affairs programs. Chemtrails is bullshit, just like 9/11 being an inside job is bullshit, just like the existence of shape shifting reptiles and a shadowy NWO elite is bullshit. All this crap takes a person's attention away from the real villains.
The fact you think i'm a paid agent speaks volumes about your state of mind.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
about the money system too i was confused in the video cus i live in canada and didnt know if our taxes were paid to the central bank also so i researhed it and found out that yes in fact it does go to the government then in turn they pay the central bank. so since it goes to the government first we are obliged to pay, im still researching ways to get around this cus our hard earned money SHOULD NOT be paid out to people eventually working or connected with the bliderberg group.
frontside5 2 years ago 2
it makes me sick to my belly
LordReevan 2 years ago
There are great ignorings about economics, in the documentary. Only money theories of classical economists are told and bank money is showed as if it was an illusion. It makes people feel they are ripped off but that's not true at all.
TURKKNCL 2 years ago
People are afraid to think for themselves.. To think outside the box so to say.. because when u do you are called "crazy" "nuts" etc etc
YoungMind20 2 years ago
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This is what they want us to believe, that we are unable to think and unable to care for ourselves of our planet...so here they are with their problem solution scheme..This is wrong !!!! Most people are good hearted...most people are capable to think and care..there is just a small group of bad humans who spoils our existence..We..the vast majority, the ocean of flesh and bones will get them when the time will arrive..
Obataladance 2 years ago
i look around at the world right now andsumthing is seriously fucked up,war,diease,femine,pestilence,murder, torture. people especially americans are blind, they cant open there eyes to see whats happening here, enlightenment is a step in the right direction and the zeitgeist movement is reaching out towards tht goal, we are growing and ever expanding, knowledge is the key to survival. knowledge and a better understanding of the human condition
frontside5 2 years ago
whats the name of the track....?
nikhtass 2 years ago
2:26
SickBang 2 years ago 4
Have a look here in youtube of the " illuminati card game " of Steve Jackson, made since 1995...u will be surprise of seen a card of a couple of "hippies peace and love" beating up a man in the name of "peace"...They are the one who will force all of us to live in "communities" ( rather i will call it concentration camps )... The New agers are the mind manipulated victims who will go against the rest to "save" Gaia..The Gaia dying scam again. Pathetic.
Obataladance 2 years ago
wow, you put up alot of effort to debunk zeitgeist in every video on youtube... chill out dude........
405mikey91 2 years ago
Same effort Zeitgeist is using to convice us...I criticize it everywhere coz i am a Socioethnologist especialized in Multiculturality and when i was in India i met many westerners New Agers that thought that people with leprosy ( millions there) had it coz their "bad Karma".Then i went to see a hospital near Varanassi runned by expatriats and learned that to get healed from leprosy before a no turning point, it cost 30 dollars ONLY per person but they dont have it. New Age is fake propaganda
Obataladance 2 years ago
I agree with you about new age, I can't stand it. Krishnamurti isn't, however, new age. In essence all Krishnamurti taught was midnfulness, exactly what the Budda taught. Unfortunately all these teachings have been distorted by the very things you mention, like drugs, fake gurus etc.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
Read " Stripping the Gurus"...u dont need to be spiritual to be a good human being...
" Karma Cola"...another great book from an indian writter Gita Metha...
if u insult me there is not dialogue..
Obataladance 2 years ago
Yeah I read the chapter on him, can read it online. Was interesting, however it doesn't really prove anything. Yeah he wasn't perfect (name me a human who is?) but does this mean everything he said is to be disregarded? Watching him myself I find him to be a bit pompous but this doesn't really degrade his message.
He wasn't talking about being spiritual, he even said he has no idea what spiritual means. His message can be summed up in one word "look" that's it.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
By the way I am a woman, mother of 3 children who read alot and travel alot too.I dont belong to any cult or religion but while many were buying expenses cars and clothing i was backpacking this world several times.I got nothing personally against the producers of this film, just i dont agree with the content neither with the hidden intentions. Sorry but to me Zeitgeist is the new religion of the ignorants, of those who never read anything about history or religion.
Obataladance 2 years ago
whats the point of your 1 million comments? zeitgeist sucks? or zeitgeist is from nwo or wtf?
swedstar84 2 years ago