II SAMUEL 24:13: So God came to David, and told him, and said unto him, shall SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue. thee?
I CHRONICLES 21:11: SO God came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee. Either THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;?????????
MAT 5:1,2: "And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying...."
LUK 6:17,20: "And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the company of his disciples, and a great multitude of people...came to hear him.. And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples and said..."
ISA 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
MAT 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
ISAIAH 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.
DEUTERONOMY 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.
ACT 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
MATTHEW 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
1KINGS 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.
2CHRONICLES 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.
JOHN 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
MARK 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.
JOHN 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
@navioascott IS THESE WHAT YOU MEAN, THE ACCURATE BIBLE?
A LIST OF BIBLICAL CONTRADICTIONS "alterations and massive editing"
God good to all, or just a few?
PSALMS 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.
JEREMIAH 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
@navioascott hahahahaah WHAT? youtube. com/watch?v=Wy8mSIE0g7k?????/// did it make ANY SENSE? watch the video! think about it! IT IS VERY CLEAR! THE MAKER OF "FAILED" to comprehend it! LOL! how about thess videos? i think its recommended for child to watch! .youtube.com/watch?v=2tHL50M1Sgg youtube.com/watch?v=AxIAZVeFxoI youtube.com/watch?v=atWoYsoTA4M youtube.com/watch?v=f4ceR6Q8fKo youtube.com/watch?v=VnV_pNe_BB0 youtube.com/watch?v=WnnI3IRFweQ get some popcorns and sit down KID
CULT OF MUHAMMED (under the false pretence of a religion names islam) Built upon pagan practises rebadged/branded to fit the name islam.
1.a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies(5 pillars).
2.an instance of great veneration of a person (muhammed), ideal (1 false god allah ), or thing (kaaba), especially as manifested by a body of admirers (ummah).
3.the object of such devotion (i.e muhammed and kaaba pagan rituals)
Matthew 24:14 lets you know for sure that islam "will NOT DOMINATE" and yet another true bible prophecy will have come TRUE. ""This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the WHOLE WORLDd as a testimony to all the nations, and THEN the end will come." So any rubbish about islam dominating, that it has anything to do with bringing the end of the world is assinine at best, and powerless at most.
And what happens if you keep reading that same true bible. How many muslims are left on the earth, how many atheists, bhuddists, toastists etc etc ? Um, heres a clue the POWER those TWO HAVE over the entire earth - Revelation 7:9 & 14 "A GREAT MULTITUDE NO ONE COULD COUNT" - Billions my friend, billions. Who did what ? "Washed their ROBES(REPENTED & ACCEPTED JESUS AS LORD)". So you will on day be Christian like me. Praise Jesus. Dont wait.
I am happy to wait until the very near future - if you want you can read true prophecy from the uncorrupted bible. What will you think, what will you do, what will you believe, what will you profess when Revelation 11 comes true and the two witnesses arrive on the scene (already here actually just waiting) with POWER BEYOND BELIEF. Perhaps then you might read the rest of the true bible and repent. Maybe FORCE is all muslims understand being lover of WAR.
Jump straight to 2:16 for a muslim, raised in islam in iran, who tells the TRUTH about islam. You can kid youself and say "she's not a true muslim", "that country or family etc didn't practice true islam", "this is an exception to the rule most muslims aren't like this", "islam doesn't teach this" etc etc etc. But she summs it up nicely with one word "FAILURE". And as the world moves on islam fails more.
Just think of how much effort and energy muslims like yourself go through to try to prove the bible is wrong. How much energy and strain you go to, and yet it's still the number 1 selling book of all time, still it brings millions each year out of the slavery and bondage of sin, still it brings so much transformative hope and change to the lives of many. The power of this one book, so maligned by islam , why? perhaps because islam=satan=hate of the true God and his holy book the bible.
And to "answer your question" ONE must read the entire bible cover to cover to find the answer. At the conclusion of this activity, ONE will know LOVE and the GOD WHO LOVES YOU. Enjoy reading. or of course reject willingly and adopt the concept espoused by Surah 9:5 - you know killing and fighting FOR a god, who clearly is WEAK because it requires humans to FIGHT FOR IT. your free will.
The book of your life will be opened and displayed in full 3d effect, nothing remains unhidden or undisclosed. If you don't have Jesus in your life, a real meaningful relationship with him today, that same Judge is fair and will judge you (1) against the law of the bible that you did not keep and (2) fairly as he bore you sin and you rejected him. He cries believe me for EVERY SOUL which reject him. Don't waste this chance brother.
A final hope and prayer is that the holy spirit comes into your life and anyone else whos followed this discussion for months or may read in the future. (whats left of it in this short time). I confirm categorically that upon your death, when your soul leaves your body , you will view that same cross and see the devestation sin has wrecked and the bible is the authority and Jesus is the judge, the only one who lived by it's authority without sin yet took it on for you.
I'll let you in on a secret. The bible is the absolute authority, 100% accurate, both old and new testaments. the old testament all leads to one central crux point, and the new testament reflects back on that crux point. The crux is the Cross of Jesus Christ who died for you to release you from your bondage of sin. Accept his free gift of salvation today before it's too late. He loves you and wants you to repent and follow the bible.
@navioascott you know! i dont have time to argue to a person that DO NOT UNDERSTAND EVEN A SINGLE LETTER "A" or "B" and "C"!!!!
the way you talk is like an IGNORANT and acts like a GOD who can justify person's FUTURE LOL!
there is no secret my friend! we are EXPOSED! so every NON SENSE THINGS YOU SPARE HERE DOES NOT AFFECT MY FAITH! so feel free to motor up your mouth! I will listen instead! but will ignore after HEHEHEHEHEHEHE
@navioascott "The unknown author, whom we shall continue to call Matthew for the sake of convenience, (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1008)"
"As for the place where the gospel was composed, a plausible suggestion is that it was Antioch, the capital of the Roman province of Syria. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1009)"
So we clearly see, both the author or authors and the place of composition of the "Gospel of Matthew" are unknown.
@navioascott as the work of a later Christian writer. ... which did not occur until at least the reign of Domitian (A.D. 81-96).....or even the beginning of the second, (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1348)"
@navioascott "Among modern scholars there is wide agreement that 2 Peter is a pseudonymous work, i.e., one written by a later author who attributed it to Peter. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1354)"
So like the rest of the books and gospels of the Bible, we don't even know regarding 1 Peter: 1. Who wrote it. 2. How many people wrote it. 3. When it was written. 4. Where it was written.
"Although the author does not name himself, evidence outside the Scriptures and inferences from the book itself lead to the conclusion that the author was Luke. (From the NIV Bible Commentary [1], page 1643)"
@navioascott So based on some conclusion, you're willing to die for defending the idea that the BIBLE was the True Word of GOD Almighty? If the book was inspired by GOD Almighty, then how come it wasn't mentioned in the book itself to help us filter it out from the many other "Satanic false books"? Are we sure that this book too is not a man-made Satanic book?
don't answer NO! you don't have to answer this! YOUR ANSWER WILL BE NOT CONSIDERED ACCURATE TOO!!!!!
"The identification of Luke as the author is primarily based on the "we" passages in Acts (beginning in Acts 16:10), which indicate that LUKE WAS ASSOCIATED WITH ST.PAUL in his ministry and wrote down the account of his activities. (The Amplified Bible, Page 1153)"
@navioascott The only proof that they have about Luke being the sole author of this gospel is a weak speculation on "we". This is absurd at best! This speculation shows: 1. The gospel was likely to have been altered or written by others beside Luke. 2. It's place of documentation is unknown. 3. It's date of documentation is also unknown.
@navioascott It is also worth mentioning that the author of the book of Acts is also unknown as shown above:
"Although the author does not name himself, evidence outside the Scriptures and inferences from the book itself lead to the conclusion that the author was Luke. (From the NIV Bible Commentary [1], page 1643)"
"Many scholars of the past two centuries have denied that John wrote this book, partly because of their belief that the author fabricated many details such as the miracles and the discourses of Jesus. (The Holman Illustrated Study Bible, ISBN: 978-1-58640-275-4, Gospel of John, Page1540)"!!!
SO THIS MEANS THAT THE VERSE signifies "HOW GOD LOVES THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE JESUS AS SACRIFICE and ONLY BEGOTTEN SON IS A LIE!"
@navioascott "Critical Analysis makes it difficult to accept the idea that the gospel as it now stands was written by one person. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"
"Within the gospel itself there are also some inconsistencies. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"
@navioascott "To solve these problems, scholars have proposed various rearrangements that would produce a smoother order. However, most have come to the conclusion that the inconsistencies were probably produced by subsequent editing in which homogeneous materials were added to a shorter original. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"
SO then, it was exposed! THERE ARE MASSIVE EDITING OF THE SCRIPTURES! proves that it was really CORRUPTED!
@navioascott "Other difficulties for any theory of eyewitness authorship of the gospel in its present form are presented by its highly developed theology and by certain elements of its literary style. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"
"The gospel contains many details about Jesus not found in the synoptic gospels. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"
@navioascott "The final editing of the gospel and arrangement in its present form probably dates from between A.D. 90 and 100. Traditionally, Ephesus has been favored as the place of composition, though many support a location in Syria, perhaps the city of Antioch, while some have suggested other places, including Alexandria. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"
@navioascott So again, no one knows regarding the "Gospel of John": 1. Who wrote it. 2. How many people wrote it. 3. When it was written. 4. Where it was written.
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you don't need to further answer THESE QUESTIONS! you cannot answer them! ITS IMPOSSIBLE!
@navioascott so then IF YOUR BIBLE WAS INDEED CORRUPTED ACCORDING TO YOUR FELLOW CHRISTIAN SCHOLARS and WRITERS, why you're DYING to prove that your religion is true?
"WHEN ITS BOOK as the source of FAITH WAS CORRUPTED"?
@ASUSM2VMXSE If my bible is corrupted then at no time ever should any muslims refer to it to back up their quran. Let the quran speak for itself. When one looks at the quran it's riddled with faults, contradictions and blatent lies. It even accepts this contridiction of "abrogration" as being somehow good for the reader. Its a cult your in, a cult that adores muhammed and nothing else. Come out of bondage my friend and brother. I love you that' s why i continue.
Why is it that Muhammed makes himself EQUAL with Allah which as you know is SHIRK. You own prophet actually commits SHIRK all the time , every time a surah,or hadith mentions "Allah AND his apostle KNOW BEST" or "Allah AND his apostle [insert action/thought]" it is shirk. Muhammed puts himself EQUAL with Allah, a PARTNER WITH ALLAH. You can't even BECOME muslim unless you SHIRK "There is no god but God, AND Muhammad is the messenger of God" Why can't you just say "there is no god but God"
WHAT RELIGION PASTOR WERE YOU. ANSWER THAT. IF YOU SAY 1. MORMON, 2. CATHOLIC 3. SOME CULT. this will "explain why you felt FORCED TO JOIN". Tell us who or what religious following were you a pastor from.
You can't use bible verses to condemn me, your a muslim you should use the quran. Give me a quran verse, you can't use the bible as "true" when it "suits you" and then claim its corrupt every other time. Take your Jeremiah 17:9 bible verse OUT OF CONTEXT AGAIN and twist with a dash of Taqiya = an islamic daquiri whalla
You can't even give me ONE VERSSE where your God, Allah, says "I Allah LOVE YOU". Not "allahs loves it if you do...xxxx or allah rejoinces in those who....." but "ALLAH LOVES YOU". he doesn't it ain there. You worship a God with endless and pointless ritual that DOESNT LOVE YOU, PREDESTINED YOUR FATE. Why? that's the wrong path.
@navioascott you can't even understand a grade 5 arguments here! that's seems so difficult for a normal person like me! YOUR WEIRD! YOU DONT THINK WHILE TYPING YOUR COMMENTS!
LOL!
there is no WORD LOVE IN THE BIBLE! jesus didn't SAY HE LOVES YOU BUT HE CAME FOR A SWORD NOT PEACE!
oh i forgot! well its not jesus who said that GOD LOVES YOU! BUT HIS FAKE (UNKNOWN) DISCIPLES like
@ASUSM2VMXSE where does allah say he loves you ? not the "things/actions/deeds" you DO. But you, the person just for being you. Where does your allah say this?
@ASUSM2VMXSE You don't need to tell me where your god allah loves you, you should seek it out yourself. It;s a basic human nature to both DESIRE AND EXPRESS love. And if you devote your entire life to a God, perhaps you should act on your basic human nature and SEEK if that god actually LOVES you in return. If not, maybe the obvious question you ask yourself is "WHY". Why the 5 pillars, the constant chants, reading, prayer, obligations if the one receiving DOES NOT LOVE ME.
@ASUSM2VMXSE "here does God loves US? hehehe why should i tell to a NON-BELIEVER! (will you believe)?
sorry! i will not share the love to you! you're not qualified". So if your submit to allah, as a Muslim, then you behave the way your god asks. Thus, your god only loves WITH CONDITIONS ATTACHED. My god loves unconditionally, like a parent to it's child. Your God will ONLY SHARE IF YOUR QUALIFIED OR PASS THE TEST", My god welcomes all with open arms and no test. Which is the better God?
Daniel also knew that this "beast from the EARTH" 2nd beast, was of the SEVEN but an 8th and of the 11. Gotta read true prophecy friends, not rubbish in Quran. And doesn't the islamic religion AWAIT in LOVING ANTICIPATION to TAKE A MARK from a BEAST FROM THE EARTH...... really. you want SATAN's hell stamp.
@navioascott /QURAN 2:195. ...Truly, Allah loves Al-Muhsinun (the good-doers). allah trully loves THOSE WHO ALWAYS DO GOOD EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE NOT MUSLIM! allah will love you in this world, and if he wills, he will TURN YOU INTO A MUSLIM!
allah loves US MUSLIM or PAGAN.... how...
WHY DO YOU STILL EARN MONEY EVEN THOUGH YOU DONT ACCEPT ALLAH?
WHY YOU STILL AWAKE IN THE MORNING, allah extended your LIFE even you don't KNOW HIM!
these are examples navioascott! you don't realize it!
@ASUSM2VMXSE 2:195 Allah loves good do-ers. HE LOVES it onlly if you DO/ACT/ENACT/WORKS. Not the person for whom they are, only the ACT. Like "earning points with Alllah to gain entry to heave". As prior mentioned, your a WORKS BASED ENTRY TO HEAVEN religion. And you actually prove PREDESTINATION by the "if Allah Willls it". In islam there is NO FREE WILL because ALLAH has already decided. So why bother? You can't know allah, or change his mind, even understand it. why submit.
@navioascott speaking about love, by the way HAPPY HOLY WEEK!
if JESUS did SACRIFICED himself FOR THE SINS OF THE WORLD why he refused to be crucified? Matthew 27:46
IF HE REFUSED, then indeed, the celebration of HOLYWEEK TODAY ARE USELESS! because jesus did not wanted to be crucified if he saved YOU and the entire world against the great SINS then he rather CHOOSES TO DIE FOR IT!
Daniel 9:26 is quite interesting, given that it relates to 62 weeks (if you can read time that is by Gods laws) an interesting EVENT occurs. Well Gee in 1948 May 14th ISREAL became a nation again, EXACTLY as the TRUE BIBLE PROPHECY said 2000 years ago. Guess that some Mahdi gonna make a hudna (false peace treaty) soon for 7 (SEVEN) years. Half way through it's broken and he is UNVEILED KISWA style :)
@navioascott QURAN.... quran ... quran CORRUPTION? even its AUTHENTIC LANGUAGE YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND! and just rely on its PARTIAL TRANSLATIONS!
well all of the quran verses you posted here claiming that they were corrupted? HAHA yes no problem! i can understand ARABIC! you don't have to REPEATEDLY DISCUSS IT! THAT IS NOT MY QUESTION!
my question is, WHY YOUR JESUS WORSHIPING ANOTHER GOD IN THE BIBLE (LUKE 5:16) ???
@ASUSM2VMXSE The commonest excuse for muslims to non muslims is "you don't understand arabic so you can't interpret the quran". Well of all the mulsims countries in the world, a substantial portion of all those countries CANT READ! are illiterate. So, what on earth are they practising mr.
@navioascott DANIEL 9:26??? the verse you are proving that YOUR RELIGION CAN STAND THE TEST OF TIME? what does the test of time means to you????
THE TEST OF A SINGLE CLOCK! you see the problem is that THE SINGLE MINDED THINKING my friend!
how can you say that YOUR RELIGION CAN STAND THE TEST OF TIME WHEN EVEN A SINGLE QUESTION CONCERNING HOW YOUR GOD WORSHIPING ANOTHER GOD , you cannot answer
@ASUSM2VMXSE Have you read one single prophecy in the bible and seen it come true. Have you actually read and studied the bible cover to cover particularly focussing on ISREAL. Look, 2000 years ago this bible claimed isreal would be brought back together as a nation prior to Jesus return. 1948 buddy. No body for almost 2000 years would have thought that possible, but it took Hitler killing JEWS to fulfil GODS work in restoring ISREAL. What has allah done ? nothing.
@navioascott Have I read one single prophecy in the bible????? why? you are afraid TO READ YOUR BIBLE? why you're asking me? HAHAHAHA HOW ABOUT YOU READ WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO A PAGAN PERSON???? according to the bible?
come on! OPEN YOUR BIBLE! DON'T ASK ME! i will not tell!
Show me ONE single verse in the entire quran where your God, Allah, says that he LOVES YOU personally. Not verses about the "things" he does and doesn't like, or actions/deeds what makes him & his apostle "pleased" , but where Allah says "I LOVE YOU"..... Find it. Search the entire quran. You won't find it in there. The obvious question arises -- Why worship with endless ritual a God that doesn't even love you? And has already decided your fate "InShallah" If it's HIS WILL. No free will islam.
@navioascott gospel of the Nazorenes, lection 33, verse 1-2) FOR ALL HUMBLENESS, THE GOSPEL OF NAZORENES IS ONE OF THE MOST AUTHENTIC SOURCE OF ALL THINGS RELATED TO CHRISTIANITY! THIS IS HOW THE POPE RELATES YOUR RELIGION!
without this gospels, there would be no CHRISTIANITY IN MODERN TIMES!
WELL WHY YOU ASK ME ABOUT THIS? ask your fellow christian why your religion's sources are too MANY INSTEAD OF THE SINGLE NT BIBLE?
this is not my problem! this is also ANOTHER PROBLEM IN YOUR RELIGION
@ASUSM2VMXSE Yes, this is not in the bible. Dont refer to non biblical texts and lie to claim they are biblical. If you can do this with my bible, I can take the OTHER SIX VERSIONS OF THE QURAN WHICH WERE DESTROYED BECAUSE THEY CONFLICTED EACH OTHER and use one o them.
@navioascott LOL! of course you cant take the other SIX VERSIONS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT THE LANGUAGE OF MUHAMMED! i don't prefer that! we don't prefer that! WHO CARES? NOTHING YOU CAN DO!
how about i can't TAKE HUNDREDS OF COPYCUT DIFFERENT CANONICAL BIBLES? because they are ALL COMPLICATED EVEN YOUR PROTESTANT BIBLE! don't say you're a protestant CHRISTIAN KID?
@navioascott quran 9:113 SHOWS CORRUPTION AND ABROGATION? LOL are you sure that YOU RED QURAN?
quran 9:113 It is not (permissible) for the Prophet and the believers to seek forgiveness for the Mushriks, even if they are kinsmen (related or relation), after it became clear to them that they are the people of hell.
" after it became clear to them that they are the people of hell." this what you mean? LOL! this part does not mean that the prophets and believers are also going to hell LOL!
@navioascott quran 9:5? fight and KILL NON-BELIEVERS WITHOUT LAWFUL REASON?
LOL! JeSUS again wants to slap your face!
quran 9:5 fight and kill non-believers
BUT
9:5 And so, when the sacred months are over, fight and kill non-believers , ....Yet if they repent, and take to prayer, and render the purifying dues, let them go their way: for, behold, God is much forgiving, a dispenser of grace. you cannot trick ME! I KNOW MY RELIGION! i'm not like you are! you dont know YOURS
@ASUSM2VMXSE "Jesus again slaps my face". The ISA or your quran is NOT MY JESUS. My bible explains who my jesus is and is OPPOSITE to the quranic "version". My jesus is not slapping my face. He's loving me for standing up for richeousness.
@ASUSM2VMXSE Surah 9:5 where you say i tricked you. You use TAQIYA or selected writing becuase you miss out the bit about "ambushing them using every means/ strategam/ trickery". That is, be a sneaky bugger, lie, cheat, deceive any non muslims, surprise attack them and kill them but only save their life if they become muslim. WHAT A DISGUSTING belief system is this, you people actually are so brain washed its frightening.
@navioascott this is the context that YOUR BIBLE DONT HAVE AT ALL
quran 9:6 And if any of those who ascribe divinity to aught beside God seeks thy protection, [10] grant him protection, so that he might [be able to] hear the word of God [from thee]; and thereupon convey him to a place where he can feel secure: [11] this, because they [may be] people who [sin only because they] do not know [the truth].
YOU DONT NEED TO ADD SOMETHING IN QURAN IT WAS DONE! and HEHEHEHE you don't have to PRETEND
@ASUSM2VMXSE sURAH 9:6 REQUUIRES YOU READ 9:1, 2, 3,4,5 AND ALL OF 9:... TO OBTAIN CONTEXT. sO WHAT IS 9:5 "Kill all non muslims". Oh, and 9:6 if there are scared and petrified for their life, so long as they cowar and become mulsim, let them go safely. What a disasterous mental condition you peoiple are in.
@ASUSM2VMXSE Pslam 137:9 You must read BEFORE AND AFTER to obtain CONTEXT. This verse is talking about BABYLON, the City, ideas, beliefs and practices in OPPSITION TO GOD. THE VERY ANTITHESIS OF HIM AND WHAT HE HATES, ABHORES AND WILL PUNISH. It talks about the destruction of "babies" in the context of "fruits". I.e fruits of your womb is your child, Fruits / Babies being the PRODUCT of SIN coming FROM BABYLON and Gods wrath on them. NOT LITERRALY ENDORSING CHILD MURDER YOU IDIOT!
@navioascott this is because PAUL WILL ONE OF THE BROS in HELL
But when Paul perceived that one part were Sadducees and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, "Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee;
concerning the hope and resurrection of the dead I am being judged!" Acts 23:6,7
@navioascott SHOW YOU ONE SINGLE VERSE IN THE QURAN SHOWS LOVE OF ALLAH to US! I'm sorry but MUHAMMAD CANNOT UNDERSTAND ENGLISH WORDS (word LOVE) but its context in islam IS BEING PLAGIARIZED BY MOST CHRISTENDOM IN THE WORLD (but not really)
allah loves me and even you!
not only one! there many!
If, even a pagan leaves out paganism and sincerely repents, Allah will forgive him. It is cited in Sura Az-Zumar, No.39, verse 53
allah MENTIONED LOVE NOT ONLY IN HIS LAST BOOK (QURAN)!
My God takes my sin , my god lives as me experiencing the same struggles and temptation I do, my God offers me peace and a way to reconcile, my god says and expresses his LOVE for me personally. My God will make all things new and actually LIVE , talk, interract with me on a New Earth. My God and I , as he's lived like me, will have something to talk about forever. The human experience. WOW! isn't that a God worth praising. Or does Surah 9:5 appeal to you.
What sort of God is forgetful like allah, or so inept and stupid that he needs to keep re-writing his quran to replace verses. Or are humans so dumb that we need this sort of re write and ironic that it's only when one thing allah says is contradicted and then quickly corrected with the phrase "but allah and his apostle know best". oh please. More like, we got busted writing lies and got a convenience "revelation" overruling the lie to cover it up.
Do you know that your entire life is being recorded for a play back upon death! pretty fascinating to see and experience it actually I must say. Why? well every time you reject Jesus it's "recorded" including your thoughts, words, actions of not only you, but anyone connected to the "event". So all i offer is the opportunity to repent, turn to jesus as your lord and saviour, ask him to come in and accept his offer of salvation. [Press Record/Play Now]
@navioascott WHY JESUS (the so called GOD INCARNATION) WORSHIPED ANOTHER UNKNOWN GOD in (luke 6:16) and at the same time seeks refuge against DEATH in (Mark 15:34)!
if you can answer this, indeed your religion is TRUTH! but if i can contradict your answer, NO DOUBT!
you only felt GUILT, the reason why you keep on commenting us!
the greatest issue with islam is that even if all the world was muslim, there are no jews, christians or infidels to fight. Heaven is not on earth and is a "destination" to be achieved through works by the muslim. HOW does the muslim get to heaven ? He/she can't be sure to get there, the only way to be SURE is to be a martyr. Who are you martyring in a fully muslim world? And is Allah pre-destines all humans, why fight in the 1st place ? he's already decided your fate before your born.
Interesting that any and all things muhammed didn't like, miraculously a revelation comes down that confirms Allah ALSO doesn't agree with. wow. Even Kadijah knew this was highly SUSPECT by saying how allah seems to get what ever he wants. Come on, he does because he's making it up as he went along to justify any thing he desired. This, this creature is your prophet? the most perfect and noble creation ? my gosh your deluded.
Which religious 'flavour' were you a pastor or ? 7th day adventist, morman, catholic or some other 'cult' and thus you express your anger because of these false teachings. And run straight into the arms of another militant cult of islam. You people venerate your "prophet" more than your supposed god. He even equates himself as EQUAL to god in numerous verses where you hear "Allah & his Apostle KNOW BEST". Muhammed is EQUAL to Allah since he knows what allah knows. Megolomania I'd say
Or Christianity where your God loves you, tells you he loves you, expresses it throughout it's book so we can all relate, offers us real "relationship", knowing, closeness, care, rational and approachable commmunion. Allows us to make mistakes and express ourselves enjoying the very creation out of love was made for us. And who's ultimate end is God , Man/Woman and all creation TOGETHER on earth. How great is that? Heaven on earth without having to "fight" infidels til they speak a sentence.
@navioascott if you are about to ask me WHAT WILL I CHOOSE? ISLAM or the deceitful TRUTH? CHRISTIANITY,
i rather choose the one with justice, good and fair commandments, honest words, loving and caring words, straight and not unjust, and the most important is CAN STAND THE TEST OF TIME! that is ISLAM!
and nothing you can change that! nothing you can BLIND ME AGAIN through forcing me to enter AGAIN YOUR RELIGION!
ISLAM DID NOT FORCE ME! but i seek it! i'm the one who decide! NOT ISLAM! sorry
@ASUSM2VMXSE I really want to know what religion or upbringing you have. All i sense from your words is (1) someone who is hurt and lashing out like a wounded animal that's scared and (2) someone who genuinely wants peace and to know god but has lingering doubts about his choice of islam. Fear is the driver of both these options. Imagine a life without that fear. Jesus brings you that my friend. Just pray and ask him honestly. No one needs know, just you and him alone one night. :))
@navioascott now if your RELIGION CAN STAND THE TEST OF TIME ANSWER MY VERY OLD QUESTION you are fearing with,
WHY YOUR LORD JESUS (AS THE GOD INCARNATION WORSHIPING ANOTHER GOD (luke 6:16) and seeks refuge to another GOD LIKE HIM (Mark 15:34) your god seeks refuge to UNKNOWN ANOTHER GOD?
if you can CONTRADICT JESUS' OWN DEEDS then indeed, your religion can stand it. BUT IF YOUR ANSWER IS IMPOSSIBLE then no doubt!
YOU ARE ONLY GUILTY the reason why you keep on commenting
The choice is simple. ISLAM = Has a God that is unknowable, remote, uncarring, irrational and unapproachable who pre-destines each and everylife so there is no free will and commands worship and and is weak because it requires it's creation (followers) to fight for it until all creation repeats a sentence. Yet at this magical point in time this 'eternal book' becomes time locked due to it's texts being irrelevant without jews or infidels.
@navioascott hehehehe just what i'm expecting! ANOTHER GOAT ESCAPES FROM THE RANCH!
ok! let me dance my friend!
the choice is simple! ISLAM = has a creator which is only one, and unknowable (unseen) do not have STATUES which yes infact which is why you said UNKNOWABLE because you can't see him inside the cathedral with bunch of PAGAN STATUES (saints).... his name is Allah and cannot be seen by your BEADY EYES!, , , ,
@ASUSM2VMXSE And yet you have the black stone Kaaba you face, circle and is a major tenant of fulfilling your religious duties. The ultimate icon/statue/image of your religion...with well known documented pagan roots still carired over today under the new name "islam". Why keep the SAME pagan black stone in the kaaba if muhammed came to CLEANSE it. ? it doesn't make sense. Why worship at a pagan site. Would a jew worship at Stone Henge after "cleansing it" I doubt it. Pagan religion islam.
@navioascott Islam's god has a very EASY TO FOLLOW commandments! it is focusing on SALVATION and not literally the word FIGHTING with blood sheds like HOW CHRISTIANITY'S COMMANDMENTS, TO FIGHT WITH BLOOD SHED
@navioascott ISLAM DO NOT TEACH THIS (And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. (Hebrews 9:22) THIS HOW YOUR RELIGION FLOWS!
very different from what ISLAM (TRUE RELIGION of jesus) teaches!
"If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah;Al-Qur’an 9:6]
this is because ISLAM IS NOT A FORCEFUL RELIGION! the good choice for a humble persons!
@ASUSM2VMXSE Quran 9:6, requires, just like the bible CONTEXT. I'll read the prior verse to get a full understanding of this text. Surah 9:5 Fight and kill all non muslims where & when ever you find them with every form of deceit unless they become muslim". Wow. really. Is this a non forceful religion islam? "become a muslim or get killed".
@navioascott ISLAM is full of Justice and if there is full justice, it will generate love and forgiveness!
“God commands justice and fair dealing...” (Quran 16:90)
“O you who believe, be upright for God, and (be) bearers of witness with justice!...” (Quran 5:8)
“We sent Our Messengers with clear signs and sent down with them the Book and the Measure in order to establish justice among the people…” (Quran 57:25)
@navioascott “Let not the hatred of a people swerve you away from justice. Be just, for this is closest to righteousness…” (Quran 5:8)
“God does not forbid you from doing good and being just to those who have neither fought you over your faith nor evicted you from your homes...” (Quran 60:8)
“…If you judge, judge between them with justice…” (Quran 5:42)
“God commands you to render trusts to whom they are due, and when you judge between people, judge with justice…” (Quran 4:58)
@navioascott no doubt, JESUS CONTRADICTED ST.PAULS WITNESS
it is said by the priests that without shedding of blood there is no remission. Can then the blood offering of the law take away sin?
And Jesus answered: NO blood offering, of beast or bird, or man, can take away sin, for how can the conscience be purged from sin by the shedding of innocent blood? Nay, it will increase the condemnation. (Gospel of the Nazorenes, Lection 33, verses 1-2)
@ASUSM2VMXSE Gospel of the Nazorenes, Lection 33, verses 1-2) This is NOT in the Bible. It's null and void like your arugement on this. As effective as me using a line from a hollywood movie to refute the quran "Lifes like a box of chocolates, Allah and his apostle know best".
Kill Nonbelievers They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB) i think this is not like ISLAM'S JUSTICE Al-Qur’an 9:6]
Kill Sons of Sinners Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
1 Samuel 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling
THIS IS VERY GREAT FOR THE CHRISTIANS! like how they treat children in IRAQ
@navioascott is it true that THE LOVE IN CHRISTIANITY is only physical, and its inner concept IS HATRED? YES IT IS!
Luke 14:26 If anyone comes to me and DOES NOT HATE father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person CANNOT BE my disciple.
yes you are not desciple if YOU PRACTICE LOVE! you should practice WAR ON TERROR!
MATTHEW 10:34 "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
@ASUSM2VMXSE We;ve been here a lot. you need to read the entire before and after verses in CONTEXT. then these make complete sense and are clear in their meaning. Don't use endorsed islamic lying (Taqiya) here. It won't work. If you can pick a single verse in my book to try to prove a point, then here's on. 113 verses of your quran are abrograted, that is wiped out, made redundant, void & null by one single verse. The SWORD 9:5 Kill all non muslims using every form of lying where & when ever!
If you could simply understand the concept of Trinity and Original Sin this would not be a question or an endless attempt to skirt around your fallen sinful nature. You can spend your whole life in "ritual" to allah, a god that has no power and a prophet who was false. But what assuratey do you have muslims ? none. How do you know Allah loves you. Not the Things allah loves or the things he doesn't but his love for YOU.. none it aint in the quran at all cause Allah is not God.
@navioascott iTs been a while! hrrr I'm so tired of replying to a paranoid one! Read the Book of Daniel, Ezekiel and Revelation.??? i do not prefer to read and focus TOO MUCH WITH THESE UNSURE (MAN'S WORDS) BOOKS!
my religion is islam and my main (creator's words) book is only one! and that is quran!
if you had the problem with theories then i'm not the one you should advice to EducATE more (as a former PASTOR)!
i'm the one should do that to you! instead of to much showy here, EDUCATE U SELF!
@ASUSM2VMXSE You never knew God as a 'pastor'. Repent and ask for the holy spirit to guide you. Really, time is running out. Its why we're here. I am so sorry, but your on the wrong team. Jesus loves you and wants you to come home before the end.
my question is, WHY JESUS WORSHIPS if he was the god incarnation! (luke 6:16)
and
i didn't mean JESUS AS JESUS WORSHIPING HIMSELF (knowing it)! but i mean JESUS WORSHIPS A GOD but (infact) but people of today knows him as THE GOD INCARNATION. thus, this question makes you in trouble!
WHY JESUS WORSHIPING HIMSELF (AS GOD) IF HE WAS THE GOD? (John 17:11)
@navioascott for goodness sake! STOP SCAPEGOATING! i will let you say anything that comes from your WEIRDEST MIND IVE EVER ENCOUNTERED HERE IN YOUTUBE!
when did i ask you "WHY JESUS WORSHIPPED AS GOD?" LOL! didn't ask you that way!
I JUST TWISTED THIS ONLY ONE QUESTION INTO THREE COMMON SENTENCES!
1.)2hy jesus worshiped if he was the god incarnation;
can you answer my question about how JESUS WORSHIPING ANOTHER GOD! which is a weird thing for a christian believer! because for you, JESUS IS THE GOD! so this is the question WHY JESUS WORSHIPED ANOTHER GOD ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE?
this is very easy, if you can't answer that THEN SAY (I DON'T KNOW)! as simple as that!
@navioascott hahaha youtube. com/watch?v=uXlrvVKzPyc (useless) authenticated theory FROM SECOND HANDED (SINGLE MINDED) youtube!
sorry, but again you failed TO COMPREHEND IT!
there is no authentic HISTORY BOOK CONTAINS SUcH ASSUMPTIONS regards how the prophet s.a.w copied the OT! NO RECORDED HISTORY TODAY THAT DURING HIS TIME, THERE WAS AVAILABLE OT in ARABIA or (PARAN)!
but until the fanatic AGE OF CHRISTIANITY came! LYING FOR THE SAKE OF TRUTH!
@navioascott the 1st. version of OT entered in ARABIA was after the end of 4 caliphates which the quran was ALREADY COMPILED! this version was from R.SAADIAS!
how about you answer now my 3 month question to you! until now you can't answer it!
WHY JESUS WORSHIPED HIMSELF (AS A GOD) or worship a god if he was the god incarnation?
@navioascott lol! muslims tried to destroy SOLOMON'S TEMPLE? you making us laugh here!
FIRST of all, the Al-Aqsa Mosque is not a temple (which was written in the CORRUPTED OT and NT), it is a holy place or in Hebrew, its miqdash, "sacred place"...
SECOND, THE ARABS didn't destroy it nor damage any part of the MOSQUE of course because MUSLIMS BELIEVE IN SOLOMON PBUH! he is one of the prophet of islam!
if you have no EDUCATIONAL WORDS here then i recommend you to SHUT YOUR MOUTH!
@navioascott typically, PAGANS pray THE SAME with today's CHRISTIANITY'S METHOD!
this is one of the most HATED WORDS that christians do not like to hear!
and adding to that,
these are some questions that MOST CHRISTIANS WILL GET ANGRY when asked
1.) why you are not following OT while JESUS following it (matthew 5:17-20)?
2.) if JESUS following OT then he definitely DO NOT EAT SWINE! right?
3.)Why your GOD JESUS worshiped ANOTHER GOD in luke 5:16???
sorry, you lose! you are in a wrong path
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
Qur'an COPIED Apocrypha writings,
EXAMPLES:
-Qur'an's 5:110, Jesus and the Clay birds story was copied from Infancy Gospel of Thomas 2:1-5
-Qur'an 19:28-30, Jesus in the cradle story was copied from Arabic Gospel of the Infancy of the savior 1:1-2
-Qur'an 19:17, Mary and the Veil story was copied from Pseudo-Mathew 8 & 9
-Qur'an 19:22-26, Mary and the Palm Tree story was copied from Pseudo Mathew 20
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@selious04 wrong!
there was no bible in YATHRIB and MACCA! during his lifetime!
that's another BASELESS consumption!
and a side from that, MUhaMMAD dirung his 1st day of prophet was ILLITERATE!
do not just THINK SINGLEMIND! think 100 times
ASUSM2VMXSE 1 month ago
@navioascott The Original manuscript don't even exist according to the bible's own theologians!
Those originals, however, because of the early date of their inception no longer exist."
we would not expect to have the originals in our possession today, as they would have disintegrated long ago.
(geocitiesdotcom/brandplucked/transinsp.html)
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott Do you answer a fool?
PROVERBS 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
PROVERBS 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
I GUES you have a complication! YOU ANSWER A FOOL! while your bible forbids you to do it!
LOL! and at the same time AMAZINGLY allows you to do it? LOL
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott Judas died how?
"And he cast down the pieces of silver into the temple and departed, and went out and hanged himself." (MAT 27:5)
"And falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all of his bowels gushed out." (ACT 1:18)
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott Years of famine
II SAMUEL 24:13: So God came to David, and told him, and said unto him, shall SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue. thee?
I CHRONICLES 21:11: SO God came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee. Either THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;?????????
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott Jesus' first sermon plain or mount?
MAT 5:1,2: "And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying...."
LUK 6:17,20: "And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the company of his disciples, and a great multitude of people...came to hear him.. And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples and said..."
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott Righteous live?
PSA 92:12: "The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree."
ISA 57:1: "The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart."?????????
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott The shape of the earth
ISA 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
MAT 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
??????
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott The sins of the father
ISAIAH 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.
DEUTERONOMY 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott Human vs. ghostly impregnation
ACT 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
MATTHEW 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott Is it folly to be wise or not?
PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
ECCLESIAS 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
1CORINTHIANS 1:19: "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."
LOL! very complicated
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott How many stalls and horsemen?
1KINGS 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.
2CHRONICLES 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott Is Jesus equal to or lesser than?
JOHN 10:30 I and my Father are one.
JOHN 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
SAME BOOK OF JOHN, SAME CONTRADICTION! LOL!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott Who was at the Empty Tomb? Is it:
MARK 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.
JOHN 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott Who is the father of Joseph?
MATTHEW 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
LUKE 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.
??????? CRAP
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott War or Peace?
EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
(NO WAY "JESUS SAID TO ST.PAUL) because
Matthew 10:34 "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott IS THESE WHAT YOU MEAN, THE ACCURATE BIBLE?
A LIST OF BIBLICAL CONTRADICTIONS "alterations and massive editing"
God good to all, or just a few?
PSALMS 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.
JEREMIAH 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
CULT OF MUHAMMED (under the false pretence of a religion names islam) Built upon pagan practises rebadged/branded to fit the name islam.
1.a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies(5 pillars).
2.an instance of great veneration of a person (muhammed), ideal (1 false god allah ), or thing (kaaba), especially as manifested by a body of admirers (ummah).
3.the object of such devotion (i.e muhammed and kaaba pagan rituals)
Leaving cult= FORBIDDEN
navioascott 10 months ago
Matthew 24:14 lets you know for sure that islam "will NOT DOMINATE" and yet another true bible prophecy will have come TRUE. ""This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the WHOLE WORLDd as a testimony to all the nations, and THEN the end will come." So any rubbish about islam dominating, that it has anything to do with bringing the end of the world is assinine at best, and powerless at most.
navioascott 10 months ago
And what happens if you keep reading that same true bible. How many muslims are left on the earth, how many atheists, bhuddists, toastists etc etc ? Um, heres a clue the POWER those TWO HAVE over the entire earth - Revelation 7:9 & 14 "A GREAT MULTITUDE NO ONE COULD COUNT" - Billions my friend, billions. Who did what ? "Washed their ROBES(REPENTED & ACCEPTED JESUS AS LORD)". So you will on day be Christian like me. Praise Jesus. Dont wait.
navioascott 10 months ago
I am happy to wait until the very near future - if you want you can read true prophecy from the uncorrupted bible. What will you think, what will you do, what will you believe, what will you profess when Revelation 11 comes true and the two witnesses arrive on the scene (already here actually just waiting) with POWER BEYOND BELIEF. Perhaps then you might read the rest of the true bible and repent. Maybe FORCE is all muslims understand being lover of WAR.
navioascott 10 months ago
Jump straight to 2:16 for a muslim, raised in islam in iran, who tells the TRUTH about islam. You can kid youself and say "she's not a true muslim", "that country or family etc didn't practice true islam", "this is an exception to the rule most muslims aren't like this", "islam doesn't teach this" etc etc etc. But she summs it up nicely with one word "FAILURE". And as the world moves on islam fails more.
youtube. com/watch?v=2oVoLqjaKiw
navioascott 10 months ago
Just think of how much effort and energy muslims like yourself go through to try to prove the bible is wrong. How much energy and strain you go to, and yet it's still the number 1 selling book of all time, still it brings millions each year out of the slavery and bondage of sin, still it brings so much transformative hope and change to the lives of many. The power of this one book, so maligned by islam , why? perhaps because islam=satan=hate of the true God and his holy book the bible.
navioascott 10 months ago
And to "answer your question" ONE must read the entire bible cover to cover to find the answer. At the conclusion of this activity, ONE will know LOVE and the GOD WHO LOVES YOU. Enjoy reading. or of course reject willingly and adopt the concept espoused by Surah 9:5 - you know killing and fighting FOR a god, who clearly is WEAK because it requires humans to FIGHT FOR IT. your free will.
navioascott 10 months ago
The book of your life will be opened and displayed in full 3d effect, nothing remains unhidden or undisclosed. If you don't have Jesus in your life, a real meaningful relationship with him today, that same Judge is fair and will judge you (1) against the law of the bible that you did not keep and (2) fairly as he bore you sin and you rejected him. He cries believe me for EVERY SOUL which reject him. Don't waste this chance brother.
navioascott 10 months ago
A final hope and prayer is that the holy spirit comes into your life and anyone else whos followed this discussion for months or may read in the future. (whats left of it in this short time). I confirm categorically that upon your death, when your soul leaves your body , you will view that same cross and see the devestation sin has wrecked and the bible is the authority and Jesus is the judge, the only one who lived by it's authority without sin yet took it on for you.
navioascott 10 months ago
I'll let you in on a secret. The bible is the absolute authority, 100% accurate, both old and new testaments. the old testament all leads to one central crux point, and the new testament reflects back on that crux point. The crux is the Cross of Jesus Christ who died for you to release you from your bondage of sin. Accept his free gift of salvation today before it's too late. He loves you and wants you to repent and follow the bible.
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott you know! i dont have time to argue to a person that DO NOT UNDERSTAND EVEN A SINGLE LETTER "A" or "B" and "C"!!!!
the way you talk is like an IGNORANT and acts like a GOD who can justify person's FUTURE LOL!
there is no secret my friend! we are EXPOSED! so every NON SENSE THINGS YOU SPARE HERE DOES NOT AFFECT MY FAITH! so feel free to motor up your mouth! I will listen instead! but will ignore after HEHEHEHEHEHEHE
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott oh! why should i continue if YOU CANT EVEN ANSWER A SINGLE QUESTION UNTIL NOW!
what's the date today? april 28, 2011, UNTIL NOW YOU CAN'T ANSWER IT! LOL!
that's your weakness! but for me its a simple thing!
GO KID! WHAT ELSE LOL! :-)
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott The bible is the absolute authority, 100% accurate, both old and new testaments.?????/
INDEED you are not reading AND JUST LYING TO PRETEND AS A KNOWER LOL! here's how YOUR OWN BIBLE SLAPS YOUR FACE !
PROOFS that our bible is NOT ACCURATE! according to ALL THEOLOGIANS!
(wwwdotbiblegatewaydotcom/passage/?search=Mark%2016:9-20;&version=31;)
its original ending has been lost. (From the NIV Bible Foot Notes [1], page 1528)"
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott that it was written by someone other than Mark. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1088)"
"Serious doubts exists as to whether these verses belong to the Gospel of Mark. (From the NIV Bible Foot Notes [1], page 1528)"
"Traditionally, the gospel is said to have been written shortly before A.D. 70 in Rome (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1064)"
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott "The unknown author, whom we shall continue to call Matthew for the sake of convenience, (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1008)"
"As for the place where the gospel was composed, a plausible suggestion is that it was Antioch, the capital of the Roman province of Syria. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1009)"
So we clearly see, both the author or authors and the place of composition of the "Gospel of Matthew" are unknown.
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott as the work of a later Christian writer. ... which did not occur until at least the reign of Domitian (A.D. 81-96).....or even the beginning of the second, (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1348)"
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott "Among modern scholars there is wide agreement that 2 Peter is a pseudonymous work, i.e., one written by a later author who attributed it to Peter. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1354)"
So like the rest of the books and gospels of the Bible, we don't even know regarding 1 Peter: 1. Who wrote it. 2. How many people wrote it. 3. When it was written. 4. Where it was written.
????????????????????????????
ITS A BIG for you but i considered it!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott The Book of Acts:
"Although the author does not name himself, evidence outside the Scriptures and inferences from the book itself lead to the conclusion that the author was Luke. (From the NIV Bible Commentary [1], page 1643)"
????????WHAT???????
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott So based on some conclusion, you're willing to die for defending the idea that the BIBLE was the True Word of GOD Almighty? If the book was inspired by GOD Almighty, then how come it wasn't mentioned in the book itself to help us filter it out from the many other "Satanic false books"? Are we sure that this book too is not a man-made Satanic book?
don't answer NO! you don't have to answer this! YOUR ANSWER WILL BE NOT CONSIDERED ACCURATE TOO!!!!!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott The Gospel of Luke:
"The identification of Luke as the author is primarily based on the "we" passages in Acts (beginning in Acts 16:10), which indicate that LUKE WAS ASSOCIATED WITH ST.PAUL in his ministry and wrote down the account of his activities. (The Amplified Bible, Page 1153)"
????????WHAT??????????
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott The only proof that they have about Luke being the sole author of this gospel is a weak speculation on "we". This is absurd at best! This speculation shows: 1. The gospel was likely to have been altered or written by others beside Luke. 2. It's place of documentation is unknown. 3. It's date of documentation is also unknown.
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott It is also worth mentioning that the author of the book of Acts is also unknown as shown above:
"Although the author does not name himself, evidence outside the Scriptures and inferences from the book itself lead to the conclusion that the author was Luke. (From the NIV Bible Commentary [1], page 1643)"
So their whole speculation is absurd at best!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott The Gospel of John:
"Many scholars of the past two centuries have denied that John wrote this book, partly because of their belief that the author fabricated many details such as the miracles and the discourses of Jesus. (The Holman Illustrated Study Bible, ISBN: 978-1-58640-275-4, Gospel of John, Page1540)"!!!
SO THIS MEANS THAT THE VERSE signifies "HOW GOD LOVES THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE JESUS AS SACRIFICE and ONLY BEGOTTEN SON IS A LIE!"
LOL!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott "Critical Analysis makes it difficult to accept the idea that the gospel as it now stands was written by one person. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"
"Within the gospel itself there are also some inconsistencies. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"
HAHAHAH THERE ARE SOME INCONSISTENCY! LOL!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott "To solve these problems, scholars have proposed various rearrangements that would produce a smoother order. However, most have come to the conclusion that the inconsistencies were probably produced by subsequent editing in which homogeneous materials were added to a shorter original. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"
SO then, it was exposed! THERE ARE MASSIVE EDITING OF THE SCRIPTURES! proves that it was really CORRUPTED!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott "Other difficulties for any theory of eyewitness authorship of the gospel in its present form are presented by its highly developed theology and by certain elements of its literary style. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"
"The gospel contains many details about Jesus not found in the synoptic gospels. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott "The final editing of the gospel and arrangement in its present form probably dates from between A.D. 90 and 100. Traditionally, Ephesus has been favored as the place of composition, though many support a location in Syria, perhaps the city of Antioch, while some have suggested other places, including Alexandria. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott So again, no one knows regarding the "Gospel of John": 1. Who wrote it. 2. How many people wrote it. 3. When it was written. 4. Where it was written.
????
you don't need to further answer THESE QUESTIONS! you cannot answer them! ITS IMPOSSIBLE!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott so then IF YOUR BIBLE WAS INDEED CORRUPTED ACCORDING TO YOUR FELLOW CHRISTIAN SCHOLARS and WRITERS, why you're DYING to prove that your religion is true?
"WHEN ITS BOOK as the source of FAITH WAS CORRUPTED"?
indeed
:-)
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@ASUSM2VMXSE If my bible is corrupted then at no time ever should any muslims refer to it to back up their quran. Let the quran speak for itself. When one looks at the quran it's riddled with faults, contradictions and blatent lies. It even accepts this contridiction of "abrogration" as being somehow good for the reader. Its a cult your in, a cult that adores muhammed and nothing else. Come out of bondage my friend and brother. I love you that' s why i continue.
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott yes even my simple QUESTION YOU CANNOT ANSWER and defend your self from it! BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO IDEA how to answer it! RIGHT?
LOL!
nothing!
so go ahead! say anything what you know! YOU ARE CONSIDERED A STEREOTYPE and useless to argue with!
like i said before this LONG CONVERSATION, you are going into the RIFLE battle carrying only a "KNIFE"!
go educate yourself INSTEAD! sorry!
;-)
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
Why is it that Muhammed makes himself EQUAL with Allah which as you know is SHIRK. You own prophet actually commits SHIRK all the time , every time a surah,or hadith mentions "Allah AND his apostle KNOW BEST" or "Allah AND his apostle [insert action/thought]" it is shirk. Muhammed puts himself EQUAL with Allah, a PARTNER WITH ALLAH. You can't even BECOME muslim unless you SHIRK "There is no god but God, AND Muhammad is the messenger of God" Why can't you just say "there is no god but God"
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott hehehehe...... MUHAMMAD made himself EQUAL TO ALLAH?
looks like ANOTHER FREAK INVENTIONS KID? where in the quran stated that muhammad (pbuh) claimed that he is EQUAL TO ALLAH!
or in short he is LIKE GOD as ALLAH?
LOL! I'm willing to listen kid! just say anything WHAT ELSE
^ ^ hahahahaha L hahahahaha O hahahahahah
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott you're keep asking WHILE SKIPPING MY QUESTION!
tell me more FAIRYTALE STORIES THEIR!
LOL!
I'm willing to listen!
I understand your situation navioascott
LOL
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
WHAT RELIGION PASTOR WERE YOU. ANSWER THAT. IF YOU SAY 1. MORMON, 2. CATHOLIC 3. SOME CULT. this will "explain why you felt FORCED TO JOIN". Tell us who or what religious following were you a pastor from.
navioascott 10 months ago
You can't use bible verses to condemn me, your a muslim you should use the quran. Give me a quran verse, you can't use the bible as "true" when it "suits you" and then claim its corrupt every other time. Take your Jeremiah 17:9 bible verse OUT OF CONTEXT AGAIN and twist with a dash of Taqiya = an islamic daquiri whalla
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott i cannot use bible verses to condemn YOU? LOL! even a single verse YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND FROM YOUR OWN BIBLE LOL! (LUKE 5:16)
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
You can't even give me ONE VERSSE where your God, Allah, says "I Allah LOVE YOU". Not "allahs loves it if you do...xxxx or allah rejoinces in those who....." but "ALLAH LOVES YOU". he doesn't it ain there. You worship a God with endless and pointless ritual that DOESNT LOVE YOU, PREDESTINED YOUR FATE. Why? that's the wrong path.
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott you can't even understand a grade 5 arguments here! that's seems so difficult for a normal person like me! YOUR WEIRD! YOU DONT THINK WHILE TYPING YOUR COMMENTS!
LOL!
there is no WORD LOVE IN THE BIBLE! jesus didn't SAY HE LOVES YOU BUT HE CAME FOR A SWORD NOT PEACE!
oh i forgot! well its not jesus who said that GOD LOVES YOU! BUT HIS FAKE (UNKNOWN) DISCIPLES like
John _____ who?
Mark _____ who?
Luke ____who?
Peter _____who?
even ST. PAUL (nethaniel dosetheus)? hehehe
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott you keep on asking TOO MUCH BASIC QUESTIONS and sadly I CAN ANSWER THEM! thats a fair fight!
not fair IF YOU CAN'T ANSWER THIS SIMPLE ONLY ONE QUESTION that you always afraid of to answer!
(WHY YOUR GOD JESUS WORSHIPS ANOTHER GOD LIKE HIM?) luke 5:16??????????????????????????????????????????
what about this? can you stand THE TEST OF TIME? HEHEHEHEHE
BREAK A LEG
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@ASUSM2VMXSE where does allah say he loves you ? not the "things/actions/deeds" you DO. But you, the person just for being you. Where does your allah say this?
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott where does God loves US? hehehe why should i tell to a NON-BELIEVER! (will you believe)?
sorry! i will not share the love to you! you're not qualified
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@ASUSM2VMXSE You don't need to tell me where your god allah loves you, you should seek it out yourself. It;s a basic human nature to both DESIRE AND EXPRESS love. And if you devote your entire life to a God, perhaps you should act on your basic human nature and SEEK if that god actually LOVES you in return. If not, maybe the obvious question you ask yourself is "WHY". Why the 5 pillars, the constant chants, reading, prayer, obligations if the one receiving DOES NOT LOVE ME.
navioascott 10 months ago
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@ASUSM2VMXSE "here does God loves US? hehehe why should i tell to a NON-BELIEVER! (will you believe)?
sorry! i will not share the love to you! you're not qualified". So if your submit to allah, as a Muslim, then you behave the way your god asks. Thus, your god only loves WITH CONDITIONS ATTACHED. My god loves unconditionally, like a parent to it's child. Your God will ONLY SHARE IF YOUR QUALIFIED OR PASS THE TEST", My god welcomes all with open arms and no test. Which is the better God?
navioascott 10 months ago
Daniel also knew that this "beast from the EARTH" 2nd beast, was of the SEVEN but an 8th and of the 11. Gotta read true prophecy friends, not rubbish in Quran. And doesn't the islamic religion AWAIT in LOVING ANTICIPATION to TAKE A MARK from a BEAST FROM THE EARTH...... really. you want SATAN's hell stamp.
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott /QURAN 2:195. ...Truly, Allah loves Al-Muhsinun (the good-doers). allah trully loves THOSE WHO ALWAYS DO GOOD EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE NOT MUSLIM! allah will love you in this world, and if he wills, he will TURN YOU INTO A MUSLIM!
allah loves US MUSLIM or PAGAN.... how...
WHY DO YOU STILL EARN MONEY EVEN THOUGH YOU DONT ACCEPT ALLAH?
WHY YOU STILL AWAKE IN THE MORNING, allah extended your LIFE even you don't KNOW HIM!
these are examples navioascott! you don't realize it!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@ASUSM2VMXSE 2:195 Allah loves good do-ers. HE LOVES it onlly if you DO/ACT/ENACT/WORKS. Not the person for whom they are, only the ACT. Like "earning points with Alllah to gain entry to heave". As prior mentioned, your a WORKS BASED ENTRY TO HEAVEN religion. And you actually prove PREDESTINATION by the "if Allah Willls it". In islam there is NO FREE WILL because ALLAH has already decided. So why bother? You can't know allah, or change his mind, even understand it. why submit.
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott speaking about love, by the way HAPPY HOLY WEEK!
if JESUS did SACRIFICED himself FOR THE SINS OF THE WORLD why he refused to be crucified? Matthew 27:46
IF HE REFUSED, then indeed, the celebration of HOLYWEEK TODAY ARE USELESS! because jesus did not wanted to be crucified if he saved YOU and the entire world against the great SINS then he rather CHOOSES TO DIE FOR IT!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott yet until now you can't STAND THE TEST OF TIME!
WHY JESUS WORSHIPS ANOTHER GOD IN LUKE 5:16???
yes, you already failed to prove your religion!
so therefore, ALL YOU ARE COMMENTING HERE ARE DOUBTFUL!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott sorry to say but YOU ARE IN A WRONG PATH!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
Daniel 9:26 is quite interesting, given that it relates to 62 weeks (if you can read time that is by Gods laws) an interesting EVENT occurs. Well Gee in 1948 May 14th ISREAL became a nation again, EXACTLY as the TRUE BIBLE PROPHECY said 2000 years ago. Guess that some Mahdi gonna make a hudna (false peace treaty) soon for 7 (SEVEN) years. Half way through it's broken and he is UNVEILED KISWA style :)
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott QURAN.... quran ... quran CORRUPTION? even its AUTHENTIC LANGUAGE YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND! and just rely on its PARTIAL TRANSLATIONS!
well all of the quran verses you posted here claiming that they were corrupted? HAHA yes no problem! i can understand ARABIC! you don't have to REPEATEDLY DISCUSS IT! THAT IS NOT MY QUESTION!
my question is, WHY YOUR JESUS WORSHIPING ANOTHER GOD IN THE BIBLE (LUKE 5:16) ???
YOU CANNOT ESCAPE
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@ASUSM2VMXSE The commonest excuse for muslims to non muslims is "you don't understand arabic so you can't interpret the quran". Well of all the mulsims countries in the world, a substantial portion of all those countries CANT READ! are illiterate. So, what on earth are they practising mr.
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott The commonest excuse for muslims to non muslims is "you don't understand arabic so you can't interpret the quran".|????
HMM? what do you mean of all languages in world? ALL THE SAME? LOL! HOW ABOUT YOU MAKE SENSE NOW! you dont have that!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott DANIEL 9:26??? the verse you are proving that YOUR RELIGION CAN STAND THE TEST OF TIME? what does the test of time means to you????
THE TEST OF A SINGLE CLOCK! you see the problem is that THE SINGLE MINDED THINKING my friend!
how can you say that YOUR RELIGION CAN STAND THE TEST OF TIME WHEN EVEN A SINGLE QUESTION CONCERNING HOW YOUR GOD WORSHIPING ANOTHER GOD , you cannot answer
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@ASUSM2VMXSE Have you read one single prophecy in the bible and seen it come true. Have you actually read and studied the bible cover to cover particularly focussing on ISREAL. Look, 2000 years ago this bible claimed isreal would be brought back together as a nation prior to Jesus return. 1948 buddy. No body for almost 2000 years would have thought that possible, but it took Hitler killing JEWS to fulfil GODS work in restoring ISREAL. What has allah done ? nothing.
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott Have I read one single prophecy in the bible????? why? you are afraid TO READ YOUR BIBLE? why you're asking me? HAHAHAHA HOW ABOUT YOU READ WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO A PAGAN PERSON???? according to the bible?
come on! OPEN YOUR BIBLE! DON'T ASK ME! i will not tell!
I do not teach you laziness!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
Show me ONE single verse in the entire quran where your God, Allah, says that he LOVES YOU personally. Not verses about the "things" he does and doesn't like, or actions/deeds what makes him & his apostle "pleased" , but where Allah says "I LOVE YOU"..... Find it. Search the entire quran. You won't find it in there. The obvious question arises -- Why worship with endless ritual a God that doesn't even love you? And has already decided your fate "InShallah" If it's HIS WILL. No free will islam.
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott gospel of the Nazorenes, lection 33, verse 1-2) FOR ALL HUMBLENESS, THE GOSPEL OF NAZORENES IS ONE OF THE MOST AUTHENTIC SOURCE OF ALL THINGS RELATED TO CHRISTIANITY! THIS IS HOW THE POPE RELATES YOUR RELIGION!
without this gospels, there would be no CHRISTIANITY IN MODERN TIMES!
WELL WHY YOU ASK ME ABOUT THIS? ask your fellow christian why your religion's sources are too MANY INSTEAD OF THE SINGLE NT BIBLE?
this is not my problem! this is also ANOTHER PROBLEM IN YOUR RELIGION
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@ASUSM2VMXSE Yes, this is not in the bible. Dont refer to non biblical texts and lie to claim they are biblical. If you can do this with my bible, I can take the OTHER SIX VERSIONS OF THE QURAN WHICH WERE DESTROYED BECAUSE THEY CONFLICTED EACH OTHER and use one o them.
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott LOL! of course you cant take the other SIX VERSIONS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT THE LANGUAGE OF MUHAMMED! i don't prefer that! we don't prefer that! WHO CARES? NOTHING YOU CAN DO!
how about i can't TAKE HUNDREDS OF COPYCUT DIFFERENT CANONICAL BIBLES? because they are ALL COMPLICATED EVEN YOUR PROTESTANT BIBLE! don't say you're a protestant CHRISTIAN KID?
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott quran 9:113 SHOWS CORRUPTION AND ABROGATION? LOL are you sure that YOU RED QURAN?
quran 9:113 It is not (permissible) for the Prophet and the believers to seek forgiveness for the Mushriks, even if they are kinsmen (related or relation), after it became clear to them that they are the people of hell.
" after it became clear to them that they are the people of hell." this what you mean? LOL! this part does not mean that the prophets and believers are also going to hell LOL!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@ASUSM2VMXSE Your whole book is corrupt. I don't need to read one verse to "check its valid".
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott quran 9:5? fight and KILL NON-BELIEVERS WITHOUT LAWFUL REASON?
LOL! JeSUS again wants to slap your face!
quran 9:5 fight and kill non-believers
BUT
9:5 And so, when the sacred months are over, fight and kill non-believers , ....Yet if they repent, and take to prayer, and render the purifying dues, let them go their way: for, behold, God is much forgiving, a dispenser of grace. you cannot trick ME! I KNOW MY RELIGION! i'm not like you are! you dont know YOURS
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@ASUSM2VMXSE "Jesus again slaps my face". The ISA or your quran is NOT MY JESUS. My bible explains who my jesus is and is OPPOSITE to the quranic "version". My jesus is not slapping my face. He's loving me for standing up for richeousness.
navioascott 10 months ago
@ASUSM2VMXSE Surah 9:5 where you say i tricked you. You use TAQIYA or selected writing becuase you miss out the bit about "ambushing them using every means/ strategam/ trickery". That is, be a sneaky bugger, lie, cheat, deceive any non muslims, surprise attack them and kill them but only save their life if they become muslim. WHAT A DISGUSTING belief system is this, you people actually are so brain washed its frightening.
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott Surah 9:5 I'M THE ONE WHO MISSED SOMETHING? LOL!
yes Muslims will kill you (pagan) IF YOU BREAK THE SACRED MONTH! or even your promise of peace!
nothing you can say! ALL OF YOUR ACCUSATIONS ARE DOUBTFUL!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott Quran 9:6, requires, just like the bible CONTEXT.??? are you sure? and what context is that? IT IS VERY CLEAR no more context!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott this is the context that YOUR BIBLE DONT HAVE AT ALL
quran 9:6 And if any of those who ascribe divinity to aught beside God seeks thy protection, [10] grant him protection, so that he might [be able to] hear the word of God [from thee]; and thereupon convey him to a place where he can feel secure: [11] this, because they [may be] people who [sin only because they] do not know [the truth].
YOU DONT NEED TO ADD SOMETHING IN QURAN IT WAS DONE! and HEHEHEHE you don't have to PRETEND
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@ASUSM2VMXSE sURAH 9:6 REQUUIRES YOU READ 9:1, 2, 3,4,5 AND ALL OF 9:... TO OBTAIN CONTEXT. sO WHAT IS 9:5 "Kill all non muslims". Oh, and 9:6 if there are scared and petrified for their life, so long as they cowar and become mulsim, let them go safely. What a disasterous mental condition you peoiple are in.
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott sURAH 9:6 REQUUIRES YOU READ 9:1, 2, 3,4,5 AND ALL OF 9:... TO OBTAIN CONTEXT. sO WHAT IS 9:5 "Kill all non muslims".
YES I PREFFER KILL YOU AS NON-BELIEVER!
why you are so sensitive with THESE! OH HEHEHE I FORGOT!
YES I FORGOT YOU AS A PAGAN! of course, a pagan like YOU WILL HATE THESE VERSES!
nothing worry about! its OK! just CRY THERE! KID
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott how about YOU PUT SOME CONTEXT IN HERE?
Psalm 137:9 Happy is the one who takes your babies and smashes them against the rocks!
Psalm 137:9 Blessed shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rock!
AND WHAT KIND OF CONTEXT YOU NEED HERE WHEN IT IS ALREADY THE CONTEXT?
how about this,
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@ASUSM2VMXSE Pslam 137:9 You must read BEFORE AND AFTER to obtain CONTEXT. This verse is talking about BABYLON, the City, ideas, beliefs and practices in OPPSITION TO GOD. THE VERY ANTITHESIS OF HIM AND WHAT HE HATES, ABHORES AND WILL PUNISH. It talks about the destruction of "babies" in the context of "fruits". I.e fruits of your womb is your child, Fruits / Babies being the PRODUCT of SIN coming FROM BABYLON and Gods wrath on them. NOT LITERRALY ENDORSING CHILD MURDER YOU IDIOT!
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott or maybe a CORRECT CONTEXT TO THIS WORDS FROM ST.PAUL what about it?
2 Corinthians 12:16 Be that as it may, I have not been a burden to you. Yet, crafty fellow that I am, I caught you by DECEIT!
yes IT IS A LIE and was tested before, WE FOUND THAT THE FOUNDER OF CHRISTIANITY (PAUL) WAS NOT the right path!
"And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are NOT (peter, paul, judas) , and have found them LIARS." Revelation 2:2 NKJV
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott this is because PAUL WILL ONE OF THE BROS in HELL
But when Paul perceived that one part were Sadducees and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, "Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee;
concerning the hope and resurrection of the dead I am being judged!" Acts 23:6,7
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott yes, THE FOUNDER OF YOUR RELIGION WILL BE ONE OF THE DWELLERS IN HELL and surely ALSO THOSE WHO FOLLOW HIM! like you
Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott SHOW YOU ONE SINGLE VERSE IN THE QURAN SHOWS LOVE OF ALLAH to US! I'm sorry but MUHAMMAD CANNOT UNDERSTAND ENGLISH WORDS (word LOVE) but its context in islam IS BEING PLAGIARIZED BY MOST CHRISTENDOM IN THE WORLD (but not really)
allah loves me and even you!
not only one! there many!
If, even a pagan leaves out paganism and sincerely repents, Allah will forgive him. It is cited in Sura Az-Zumar, No.39, verse 53
allah MENTIONED LOVE NOT ONLY IN HIS LAST BOOK (QURAN)!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
My God takes my sin , my god lives as me experiencing the same struggles and temptation I do, my God offers me peace and a way to reconcile, my god says and expresses his LOVE for me personally. My God will make all things new and actually LIVE , talk, interract with me on a New Earth. My God and I , as he's lived like me, will have something to talk about forever. The human experience. WOW! isn't that a God worth praising. Or does Surah 9:5 appeal to you.
navioascott 10 months ago
What sort of God is forgetful like allah, or so inept and stupid that he needs to keep re-writing his quran to replace verses. Or are humans so dumb that we need this sort of re write and ironic that it's only when one thing allah says is contradicted and then quickly corrected with the phrase "but allah and his apostle know best". oh please. More like, we got busted writing lies and got a convenience "revelation" overruling the lie to cover it up.
navioascott 10 months ago
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navioascott 10 months ago
Do you know that your entire life is being recorded for a play back upon death! pretty fascinating to see and experience it actually I must say. Why? well every time you reject Jesus it's "recorded" including your thoughts, words, actions of not only you, but anyone connected to the "event". So all i offer is the opportunity to repent, turn to jesus as your lord and saviour, ask him to come in and accept his offer of salvation. [Press Record/Play Now]
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott ISLAM DID NOT FORCE ME TO JOIN! but me, the one who decided to seek it! that is because JESUS REMINDS ME WHEN I WAS A CHRISTINA BEFORE,
john 8:32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” I SEEK THE TRUTH and it frees me FROM DECEPTION OF CHRISTIANITY!
if you ask me what to choose and that is ISLAM! the religion of JUSTICE and HONESTY!
now if you want to prove that your religion can stand the test of time like ISLAM CAN then ANSWER MY QUESTION!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott WHY JESUS (the so called GOD INCARNATION) WORSHIPED ANOTHER UNKNOWN GOD in (luke 6:16) and at the same time seeks refuge against DEATH in (Mark 15:34)!
if you can answer this, indeed your religion is TRUTH! but if i can contradict your answer, NO DOUBT!
you only felt GUILT, the reason why you keep on commenting us!
:-)
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
the greatest issue with islam is that even if all the world was muslim, there are no jews, christians or infidels to fight. Heaven is not on earth and is a "destination" to be achieved through works by the muslim. HOW does the muslim get to heaven ? He/she can't be sure to get there, the only way to be SURE is to be a martyr. Who are you martyring in a fully muslim world? And is Allah pre-destines all humans, why fight in the 1st place ? he's already decided your fate before your born.
navioascott 10 months ago
Interesting that any and all things muhammed didn't like, miraculously a revelation comes down that confirms Allah ALSO doesn't agree with. wow. Even Kadijah knew this was highly SUSPECT by saying how allah seems to get what ever he wants. Come on, he does because he's making it up as he went along to justify any thing he desired. This, this creature is your prophet? the most perfect and noble creation ? my gosh your deluded.
navioascott 10 months ago
Which religious 'flavour' were you a pastor or ? 7th day adventist, morman, catholic or some other 'cult' and thus you express your anger because of these false teachings. And run straight into the arms of another militant cult of islam. You people venerate your "prophet" more than your supposed god. He even equates himself as EQUAL to god in numerous verses where you hear "Allah & his Apostle KNOW BEST". Muhammed is EQUAL to Allah since he knows what allah knows. Megolomania I'd say
navioascott 10 months ago
Or Christianity where your God loves you, tells you he loves you, expresses it throughout it's book so we can all relate, offers us real "relationship", knowing, closeness, care, rational and approachable commmunion. Allows us to make mistakes and express ourselves enjoying the very creation out of love was made for us. And who's ultimate end is God , Man/Woman and all creation TOGETHER on earth. How great is that? Heaven on earth without having to "fight" infidels til they speak a sentence.
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott HOW ABOUT HONESTY IN CHRISTIANITY? =
Colossians 3:9 (New International Version, ©2011)
9 Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices
you are not commanded to lie on each other BUT THE COMMANDER IS COMMANDED TO LIE ON TO YOU!
2 Corinthians 12:16
Be that as it may, I have not been a burden to you. Yet, crafty fellow that I am, I caught you by LIE!
yes, your religion now IS ABOUT ALL LIES!
i already expected YOUR COMMENTS! useless
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott if you are about to ask me WHAT WILL I CHOOSE? ISLAM or the deceitful TRUTH? CHRISTIANITY,
i rather choose the one with justice, good and fair commandments, honest words, loving and caring words, straight and not unjust, and the most important is CAN STAND THE TEST OF TIME! that is ISLAM!
and nothing you can change that! nothing you can BLIND ME AGAIN through forcing me to enter AGAIN YOUR RELIGION!
ISLAM DID NOT FORCE ME! but i seek it! i'm the one who decide! NOT ISLAM! sorry
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@ASUSM2VMXSE I really want to know what religion or upbringing you have. All i sense from your words is (1) someone who is hurt and lashing out like a wounded animal that's scared and (2) someone who genuinely wants peace and to know god but has lingering doubts about his choice of islam. Fear is the driver of both these options. Imagine a life without that fear. Jesus brings you that my friend. Just pray and ask him honestly. No one needs know, just you and him alone one night. :))
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott now if your RELIGION CAN STAND THE TEST OF TIME ANSWER MY VERY OLD QUESTION you are fearing with,
WHY YOUR LORD JESUS (AS THE GOD INCARNATION WORSHIPING ANOTHER GOD (luke 6:16) and seeks refuge to another GOD LIKE HIM (Mark 15:34) your god seeks refuge to UNKNOWN ANOTHER GOD?
if you can CONTRADICT JESUS' OWN DEEDS then indeed, your religion can stand it. BUT IF YOUR ANSWER IS IMPOSSIBLE then no doubt!
YOU ARE ONLY GUILTY the reason why you keep on commenting
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
The choice is simple. ISLAM = Has a God that is unknowable, remote, uncarring, irrational and unapproachable who pre-destines each and everylife so there is no free will and commands worship and and is weak because it requires it's creation (followers) to fight for it until all creation repeats a sentence. Yet at this magical point in time this 'eternal book' becomes time locked due to it's texts being irrelevant without jews or infidels.
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott hehehehe just what i'm expecting! ANOTHER GOAT ESCAPES FROM THE RANCH!
ok! let me dance my friend!
the choice is simple! ISLAM = has a creator which is only one, and unknowable (unseen) do not have STATUES which yes infact which is why you said UNKNOWABLE because you can't see him inside the cathedral with bunch of PAGAN STATUES (saints).... his name is Allah and cannot be seen by your BEADY EYES!, , , ,
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@ASUSM2VMXSE And yet you have the black stone Kaaba you face, circle and is a major tenant of fulfilling your religious duties. The ultimate icon/statue/image of your religion...with well known documented pagan roots still carired over today under the new name "islam". Why keep the SAME pagan black stone in the kaaba if muhammed came to CLEANSE it. ? it doesn't make sense. Why worship at a pagan site. Would a jew worship at Stone Henge after "cleansing it" I doubt it. Pagan religion islam.
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott Islam's god has a very EASY TO FOLLOW commandments! it is focusing on SALVATION and not literally the word FIGHTING with blood sheds like HOW CHRISTIANITY'S COMMANDMENTS, TO FIGHT WITH BLOOD SHED
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott ISLAM DO NOT TEACH THIS (And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. (Hebrews 9:22) THIS HOW YOUR RELIGION FLOWS!
very different from what ISLAM (TRUE RELIGION of jesus) teaches!
"If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah;Al-Qur’an 9:6]
this is because ISLAM IS NOT A FORCEFUL RELIGION! the good choice for a humble persons!
and blood shed is not islam!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@ASUSM2VMXSE Quran 9:6, requires, just like the bible CONTEXT. I'll read the prior verse to get a full understanding of this text. Surah 9:5 Fight and kill all non muslims where & when ever you find them with every form of deceit unless they become muslim". Wow. really. Is this a non forceful religion islam? "become a muslim or get killed".
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott ISLAM is full of Justice and if there is full justice, it will generate love and forgiveness!
“God commands justice and fair dealing...” (Quran 16:90)
“O you who believe, be upright for God, and (be) bearers of witness with justice!...” (Quran 5:8)
“We sent Our Messengers with clear signs and sent down with them the Book and the Measure in order to establish justice among the people…” (Quran 57:25)
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ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott “Let not the hatred of a people swerve you away from justice. Be just, for this is closest to righteousness…” (Quran 5:8)
“God does not forbid you from doing good and being just to those who have neither fought you over your faith nor evicted you from your homes...” (Quran 60:8)
“…If you judge, judge between them with justice…” (Quran 5:42)
“God commands you to render trusts to whom they are due, and when you judge between people, judge with justice…” (Quran 4:58)
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott HOW ABOUT CHRISTIANITY (PAULINISM) =
THE MAIN HEART OF THE COMMAND IN CHRISTIANITY IS Hebrews 9:22
And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. (Hebrews 9:22)
how can you imagine that paul stating that JESUS' message from god is covered with SHEDDINGS OF BLOOD!????
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott no doubt, JESUS CONTRADICTED ST.PAULS WITNESS
it is said by the priests that without shedding of blood there is no remission. Can then the blood offering of the law take away sin?
And Jesus answered: NO blood offering, of beast or bird, or man, can take away sin, for how can the conscience be purged from sin by the shedding of innocent blood? Nay, it will increase the condemnation. (Gospel of the Nazorenes, Lection 33, verses 1-2)
so your religion has TROUBLE
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@ASUSM2VMXSE Gospel of the Nazorenes, Lection 33, verses 1-2) This is NOT in the Bible. It's null and void like your arugement on this. As effective as me using a line from a hollywood movie to refute the quran "Lifes like a box of chocolates, Allah and his apostle know best".
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott how about justice in CHRSITIANITY? =
Kill Nonbelievers They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB) i think this is not like ISLAM'S JUSTICE Al-Qur’an 9:6]
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott HOW CHRISTIANITY TREATS CHILDRENS? =
Kill Sons of Sinners Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
1 Samuel 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling
THIS IS VERY GREAT FOR THE CHRISTIANS! like how they treat children in IRAQ
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott is it true that THE LOVE IN CHRISTIANITY is only physical, and its inner concept IS HATRED? YES IT IS!
Luke 14:26 If anyone comes to me and DOES NOT HATE father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person CANNOT BE my disciple.
yes you are not desciple if YOU PRACTICE LOVE! you should practice WAR ON TERROR!
MATTHEW 10:34 "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
:-)
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@ASUSM2VMXSE We;ve been here a lot. you need to read the entire before and after verses in CONTEXT. then these make complete sense and are clear in their meaning. Don't use endorsed islamic lying (Taqiya) here. It won't work. If you can pick a single verse in my book to try to prove a point, then here's on. 113 verses of your quran are abrograted, that is wiped out, made redundant, void & null by one single verse. The SWORD 9:5 Kill all non muslims using every form of lying where & when ever!
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If you could simply understand the concept of Trinity and Original Sin this would not be a question or an endless attempt to skirt around your fallen sinful nature. You can spend your whole life in "ritual" to allah, a god that has no power and a prophet who was false. But what assuratey do you have muslims ? none. How do you know Allah loves you. Not the Things allah loves or the things he doesn't but his love for YOU.. none it aint in the quran at all cause Allah is not God.
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navioascott 11 months ago
@navioascott iTs been a while! hrrr I'm so tired of replying to a paranoid one! Read the Book of Daniel, Ezekiel and Revelation.??? i do not prefer to read and focus TOO MUCH WITH THESE UNSURE (MAN'S WORDS) BOOKS!
my religion is islam and my main (creator's words) book is only one! and that is quran!
if you had the problem with theories then i'm not the one you should advice to EducATE more (as a former PASTOR)!
i'm the one should do that to you! instead of to much showy here, EDUCATE U SELF!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago 2
@ASUSM2VMXSE You never knew God as a 'pastor'. Repent and ask for the holy spirit to guide you. Really, time is running out. Its why we're here. I am so sorry, but your on the wrong team. Jesus loves you and wants you to come home before the end.
navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott you never knew Jesus as an "only prophet"! you only knew him as IDOL "GOD" term from CLASSIC ENGLISH!
sorry! but, according to your premises each time you argue with me, YOU ALWAYS POINTING that you are not GUIDED!
KING SOLOMONOID (my other account) is asking you! the same of my question to you (OTHER VIDEOS)
WHY JESUS WORSHIPING A GOD IF HE WAS THE GOD INCARNATION? “But Jesus often withdrew to lonely places and prayed” (Luke 5:16).
is it too much weird that your god has god?
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott how about you answer now my 3 month question to you! until now you can't answer it!
WHY JESUS WORSHIPED HIMSELF (AS A GOD) or worship a god if he was the god incarnation?
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navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott look at what you dont GET in MIND!
its a very simple TWIST that i made doe you!
my question is, WHY JESUS WORSHIPS if he was the god incarnation! (luke 6:16)
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i didn't mean JESUS AS JESUS WORSHIPING HIMSELF (knowing it)! but i mean JESUS WORSHIPS A GOD but (infact) but people of today knows him as THE GOD INCARNATION. thus, this question makes you in trouble!
WHY JESUS WORSHIPING HIMSELF (AS GOD) IF HE WAS THE GOD? (John 17:11)
a very simple twist you can't get!
:-)
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navioascott 10 months ago
@navioascott for goodness sake! STOP SCAPEGOATING! i will let you say anything that comes from your WEIRDEST MIND IVE EVER ENCOUNTERED HERE IN YOUTUBE!
when did i ask you "WHY JESUS WORSHIPPED AS GOD?" LOL! didn't ask you that way!
I JUST TWISTED THIS ONLY ONE QUESTION INTO THREE COMMON SENTENCES!
1.)2hy jesus worshiped if he was the god incarnation;
2.)why jesus worshiping a god (luke 6:16)?
3.)WHY JESUS WORSHIPING HIMSELF (AS GOD) IF HE WAS THE GOD?
man! you are very very very weird
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott that is the problem my friend! you DONT THINK WHILE READING!
my question about your god (JESUS) is only one! i did not pursue you to answer my other questions AS YOu dont PLAY FAIR!
i forgave you for being like that!
all i want you to do is ANSWER MY QUESTION FAIRLY! do not ask me IF YOU DONT ANSWER MY QUESTION YET thats the proper conversation NAVIOASCOTT!
i'm not asking you to PREACH! you dont have to do that! that's useless!
just ANSWER IT! say YES OR NO!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott say YES or NO!
can you answer my question about how JESUS WORSHIPING ANOTHER GOD! which is a weird thing for a christian believer! because for you, JESUS IS THE GOD! so this is the question WHY JESUS WORSHIPED ANOTHER GOD ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE?
this is very easy, if you can't answer that THEN SAY (I DON'T KNOW)! as simple as that!
you don't have to JUMP OVER AND OVER AGAIN!
because your PROPOSITIONS ARE INEFFECTIVE!
just answer straight DONT LIE!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott answer!
ASUSM2VMXSE 10 months ago
@navioascott r you afraid of ASUS?
KINGSOLOMONOID 10 months ago
@KINGSOLOMONOID I fear the one who sent me as you should too without mocking him like the romans and jews did 2000 years ago.
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navioascott 11 months ago
@navioascott hahaha youtube. com/watch?v=uXlrvVKzPyc (useless) authenticated theory FROM SECOND HANDED (SINGLE MINDED) youtube!
sorry, but again you failed TO COMPREHEND IT!
there is no authentic HISTORY BOOK CONTAINS SUcH ASSUMPTIONS regards how the prophet s.a.w copied the OT! NO RECORDED HISTORY TODAY THAT DURING HIS TIME, THERE WAS AVAILABLE OT in ARABIA or (PARAN)!
but until the fanatic AGE OF CHRISTIANITY came! LYING FOR THE SAKE OF TRUTH!
the 1st ver. of ot was after his death!
ASUSM2VMXSE 11 months ago
@navioascott the 1st. version of OT entered in ARABIA was after the end of 4 caliphates which the quran was ALREADY COMPILED! this version was from R.SAADIAS!
how about you answer now my 3 month question to you! until now you can't answer it!
WHY JESUS WORSHIPED HIMSELF (AS A GOD) or worship a god if he was the god incarnation?
:-) KID
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WAIT A MINUTE, until now you cant answer my QUESTION!
WHY JESUS WORSHIPED A GOD according to the BIBLE?
I was so amazed that you don't feel tiredness even you're always SCAPEGOATING
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navioascott 11 months ago
@navioascott lol! muslims tried to destroy SOLOMON'S TEMPLE? you making us laugh here!
FIRST of all, the Al-Aqsa Mosque is not a temple (which was written in the CORRUPTED OT and NT), it is a holy place or in Hebrew, its miqdash, "sacred place"...
SECOND, THE ARABS didn't destroy it nor damage any part of the MOSQUE of course because MUSLIMS BELIEVE IN SOLOMON PBUH! he is one of the prophet of islam!
if you have no EDUCATIONAL WORDS here then i recommend you to SHUT YOUR MOUTH!
watch it
ASUSM2VMXSE 11 months ago