But yeah, as someone else pointed out below, video games in general these days borrow so many ideas from each other it is often quite hard to tell who is a clone of who anymore.
@yoshimasterleader both games took ideas from eachother, but gta ended up the better game, i love Driver SF cause it returns to the original driver gameplay(Kinda)
@ScDnBMusic This is such a pointless argument, just wanted to correct you on one thing though. The original Grand Theft Auto came out in 1997, and the first Driver game wasn't made until 1999.
In original Driver you couldn't even leave your car, but in Driver 2 you could. How does that make GTA the clone?
And for Driver 2 being in 3D first, I'd rather it had been top-down like GTA because the graphics were bad. If they wanted to make it 3D they should have put it on Dreamcast and skipped PS1.
@MrPlayLol and that wouldn't have anything to do with the graphics would it?....xbox fan by by any chance?...what where you doing on a wii review video?
@MrPlayLol Driver was pretty big, and gta was a different game and approach to the genre of sandbox driving, No sir I am not mad, i was simply commenting on the creator of the video's comment area to dissaprove of his statement; revolutionary or not, driver was 3d first.
lol simple story , gta copied driver wich copied gta , evryone copy evryone in our world is it tht dramatic? i think its not about copying its about including your own little touch to ideas that EVERYONE can have ^^ driver was my second game after goldeneyes and it will forever stay a classic ^^
Gta isnt bad at all
Theyre just not the same at all each names means the game
ahhh... classic wiiviewr reviews, i came once and a while to check the oldies just for the fun of it... and i like how the wiiviewer used to be more calm down, now is good too, but sometimes he can be a bit frantic
THIS IS THE WORST GAME EVER!!! DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY ON IT!! Rather buy for that money big bags of many MANY many popcorns - just to look at that popcorns is more entertaing than the playing this shit of the "game".
everyone saying that this is a copy of GTA but driver has bin out for years, the first one on ps1 were u never got out the car came out while gta was still messin round in 2D/birds-eye view .
I may rent it some day ... i don't think i could handle the driving controls on just the nunchuck. I need my A-button to be the accelerator and my right shoulder button to be the e-break. And to have to use 2 fingers at once on the Z and C is just impossible to me. I grew up with NES and SNES gamepads and then N64 and Gamecube. Eventually i did get a PS2 and an Xbox, but i could never get my fingers to be dextrous enough to use both shoulder buttons at the same time. Looks kinda cool, tho.
GTA is a free roam game .. Driver is mostly about old school action chasses. Shit part is Driver went down the drain becouse they wanted too be like GTA.
Your reviews are good but I think your experience with games is too narrow, mostly just nintendo, like your review of Guitar Hero and your review here. Mainly the fact that you talked about this being a GTA clone with Driver 1 came out before 3d GTA titles.
@GamingShadow01 No I definitely disagree, GTA came first, driver was the first 3D game, but as soon as GTA III became a huge success, Driver tried to follow the GTA formula and definitely copied a lot of GTAs ideas, GTA is way better though.
I liked GTA 2. The game was nice to play from that perspective. and there was a file which u could open with word where all the car stats were shown, un could change the speed of the cars, that was fun hehe ;)
@123meishere Yeah, look at Simpsons Hit & Run, it's almost the same concept as GTA and it's a T rated game....sadly it's the closed thing I'm gonna get to GTA... T_T
i rented it . u get ur first gun after the 2nd or 3rd mission . its pretty fun . i think its the best gta knock off on the market . i dont really care about the story .i just play destruction
This guy is old enough to realise the first 3D free roaming/driving game was Driver 2, which preceeded GTA3 by a full years, so the Driver series is anything but a clone of GTA's free roaming/driving style! He needs to get his facts right. You'd think he would, he sounds waaaaay nerdy enough!?
it seems like every game that comes out that envolves,free roaming around a city,jacking cars,and shooting peds and cops is automaticly deemed a GTA clone,its not fair :(
This looks better than GTA in a few way's but overall GTA is better but does GTA ever say it takes place in New York? and in 1978 you can see the WTC GTA just takes place in 2008 driver takes place in 1978 and 2006 :P
What were they thinking Blondie sang "one way or another" in 1979 not 1978 and in 1978 I hope you can't steal any planes because of the World Trade Cente lol!
I bet it takes place in Metropolis and at the end of the game you have an epic fight with superman and you shoot him in the eye like in Epic Movie Does GTA have that? :P
You mean the original Driver that was nearly unplayable due to its horrible framerate and constant dips? Driver might've gone to a 3D open world first, but GTA III was the first one to do it succesfull on nearly every front.
GTA was groundbreaking, Driver was decent at best.
this is better then action girlz racing
Kagami232 2 months ago
@Kagami232 unless their 16 and wearing a bikini, im not surprised
NoMorePopMusic 1 month ago
But yeah, as someone else pointed out below, video games in general these days borrow so many ideas from each other it is often quite hard to tell who is a clone of who anymore.
CaptWii60 3 months ago
Driver 1 1996 (Full 3d)
Driver 2 1999 (Full 3d exploration etc even GUNS)
gta1-1996 (Top down eagle eye, not 3d)
Same goes for gta 2-1998 and gta london
GTA3-2002 (FIRST 3D Gta game)
Driv3r 2003 (Another great drver game comparable/better than gta 3)
So; calling Driver a GTA clone is FAR from right, if anything; GTA is a Driver clone...
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yoshimasterleader 4 months ago
your wrong Driver 2 didn't have guns (except cut-scenes). driver 1 had exploration but not on foot GTA2 was top down 3d game
yoshimasterleader 4 months ago
@yoshimasterleader both games took ideas from eachother, but gta ended up the better game, i love Driver SF cause it returns to the original driver gameplay(Kinda)
ScDnBMusic 4 months ago
@ScDnBMusic This is such a pointless argument, just wanted to correct you on one thing though. The original Grand Theft Auto came out in 1997, and the first Driver game wasn't made until 1999.
In original Driver you couldn't even leave your car, but in Driver 2 you could. How does that make GTA the clone?
And for Driver 2 being in 3D first, I'd rather it had been top-down like GTA because the graphics were bad. If they wanted to make it 3D they should have put it on Dreamcast and skipped PS1.
CaptWii60 3 months ago
@ScDnBMusic GTA 3 - 2002
Driv3r - 2003
GTA 3 is better than ugly and shitty Driver 3
So; lol driver sucks since Driver 2
MrPlayLol 2 months ago
@MrPlayLol lolwhut? Driver is awesome, anyway, both great games imo
ScDnBMusic 2 months ago
@MrPlayLol and that wouldn't have anything to do with the graphics would it?....xbox fan by by any chance?...what where you doing on a wii review video?
StuartTheGamerNerd 2 weeks ago
@ScDnBMusic that's funny because first GTA 3D game was revolution and Driver - was not. U mad or what?
MrPlayLol 2 weeks ago
@MrPlayLol Driver was pretty big, and gta was a different game and approach to the genre of sandbox driving, No sir I am not mad, i was simply commenting on the creator of the video's comment area to dissaprove of his statement; revolutionary or not, driver was 3d first.
ScDnBMusic 2 weeks ago
lol simple story , gta copied driver wich copied gta , evryone copy evryone in our world is it tht dramatic? i think its not about copying its about including your own little touch to ideas that EVERYONE can have ^^ driver was my second game after goldeneyes and it will forever stay a classic ^^
Gta isnt bad at all
Theyre just not the same at all each names means the game
MrCrazyKush 4 months ago
ahhh... classic wiiviewr reviews, i came once and a while to check the oldies just for the fun of it... and i like how the wiiviewer used to be more calm down, now is good too, but sometimes he can be a bit frantic
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This looks pretty bad compared to Driv3r
NinjaShadow8 5 months ago
Driv3r is way better than GTO vice city
Pex3692 5 months ago
@Pex3692 GTO? Whats that Grand Theft Otto?
dannyboydantaylor 5 months ago
@dannyboydantaylor Sorry GTA
Pex3692 4 months ago
@Pex3692 Yeah you're right sorry GTA
55nyancat 3 months ago
Can u shoot in this game?
dueggie98 6 months ago
0:32
THAT is skill!
MoonIMover 6 months ago
Psh on gta 4 i got 5 stars and got away in a yellow infernus!
wowhead3000 7 months ago
Ironically, IGN game the game 5.
Knightlip 7 months ago
I agree this is more fun than GTA London
FordCrownVic100 7 months ago
This is not a gta clone. Driver was out on the ps` b4 gta3 came out for the ps2 gta copied this game... well at lest the driving part..
2TheRepublic 7 months ago
Driver San Fransico is coming out on Wii!!!!!!!!!!!!
kasabianbass 8 months ago
do you have free roam on this game (wii)
and if there is a free roam can i go inside the free roam when i want??
nice vid. by the way
(wich driver is this actually? )
so i now where i can buy it :P
groenvoetbal 8 months ago
i can tell this is a old video by your voice
snroblox1234 8 months ago
I remember playing the sequel on the PS1
MrUltradoom 9 months ago
THIS IS THE WORST GAME EVER!!! DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY ON IT!! Rather buy for that money big bags of many MANY many popcorns - just to look at that popcorns is more entertaing than the playing this shit of the "game".
abergaz 9 months ago
Dude I got four stars agenst me In gta I was able to outrun the cops
pokelover66544 9 months ago
can't wait for the 3ds driver game
dde12321 9 months ago
ive played this game a lot and the camara never spun around when i was on foot in the game.
Ryason916 9 months ago
Gta clone???
Sorry, but GTA is a clone of Driver
TheFranco555 10 months ago 2
@TheFranco555 XD and gta do it better Xp
chucknorris741 9 months ago
@TheFranco555 BUT GTA STILL DOES ITS BETTER
Subscriber0101 9 months ago
Thanks amazon!
iOSreaper 10 months ago
everyone saying that this is a copy of GTA but driver has bin out for years, the first one on ps1 were u never got out the car came out while gta was still messin round in 2D/birds-eye view .
DJAY1878 10 months ago
i bought it for 10$
MyGangstar1 11 months ago
damn advertisements
montykombat 1 year ago
" well no, it's not that bad of a game" Well no its not that bad but you make the review sound like it is with yourr voice
123meishere 1 year ago
hello
i have the game but this guy cant drive !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P
its a very good game. better than GTA you can here do all whit you doing in your real life
i come from the netherlands
byebye
doeidoei
papethijbo 1 year ago
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fuk this wii nerd i can outrun 6 star cops on gta iv with a mini van and no cheats
TheRespawnShow 1 year ago
I want this game lol
Sarabazzar 1 year ago
Sorry, I meant they are both rip offs of Body 'Harvest' for the N64, not Body Count.
imperialpod 1 year ago
@imperialpod Body Harvest was made by Rockstar.
ownedinthe2260 1 year ago
driver came out before gta i still have the oringal for the playstasion 1 it's so fun i'm thinking about geting this for wii thanks for the review.
killabee7060 1 year ago
You sound really bored in this review
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Wow, listen to yourself talk, you are so annoying, just cut out your vocal cords and do the world a favour.
Teekeus360 1 year ago
gta is the first game but driver is the first game 3d
sonicleo1 1 year ago
Yay! Amazon.com saves another gamer!
legogamer98 1 year ago
shud i buy this
chunkyfunkymonkey999 1 year ago
I may rent it some day ... i don't think i could handle the driving controls on just the nunchuck. I need my A-button to be the accelerator and my right shoulder button to be the e-break. And to have to use 2 fingers at once on the Z and C is just impossible to me. I grew up with NES and SNES gamepads and then N64 and Gamecube. Eventually i did get a PS2 and an Xbox, but i could never get my fingers to be dextrous enough to use both shoulder buttons at the same time. Looks kinda cool, tho.
limegreensquid 1 year ago
@rendrrezz calm down dude it's just a vid
Ccbooya18 1 year ago
i love this game
Bestreviews5 1 year ago
love this game but i cant buy it anymore!
andylinkproductions 1 year ago
i love this game for the music
YouKnowItzTTime81 1 year ago
GTA is a free roam game .. Driver is mostly about old school action chasses. Shit part is Driver went down the drain becouse they wanted too be like GTA.
resistanceunion 1 year ago
i got rid of my wanted level on vice city using cheat codes
291516 1 year ago
what r u talking about my brother live with 5 stars with out any cheats
karina5242 1 year ago
u actually can outrun the cops on GTA...And u can def. out run them in GTA 4
weenerwallet 1 year ago
How the hell is this a copy of gta?Its a completetly different storyline.
akm169mm 1 year ago
i dont like ur old videos very much,but i like ur new ones more
LegoKing345 1 year ago
Gta is a clone of this..........
Ps3GamerVideos 1 year ago 8
pause at 1:19 or 1:20 lol
bobbob24able 1 year ago
this looks good:)
kirababy35 1 year ago
why is no motion contorl good. people only hate it cuz of the stupid minigames
drifter402 1 year ago
@drifter402 People hate motion control because some games overdo the motion controls. And when they're not overdone, they are unresponsive.
slashslayer55 1 year ago
Your reviews are good but I think your experience with games is too narrow, mostly just nintendo, like your review of Guitar Hero and your review here. Mainly the fact that you talked about this being a GTA clone with Driver 1 came out before 3d GTA titles.
PartyBusGaming 1 year ago
GTA CLONE? Driver the orginal came out in like 95
PartyBusGaming 1 year ago
in gta 4 people jump and roll out of the way if they see you driving towards them in this they just be good and let you run them over ! jokes
patsybob 1 year ago
the AI the pedestrians are like should we just sit here and have the driver run us over or should we run away
grandtheftyoshi88 1 year ago
Thanks Wiiviewr agin with the good reviews
Danielhsv0 1 year ago
the driver series came before the 3d GTA games so its not fair to call this a GTA clone.
GamingShadow01 1 year ago 113
@GamingShadow01
But it is fair to call GTA a clone of Driver!
DOSDestroyer 1 year ago
@DOSDestroyer
Yes it is.
The mechanics for GTA were 1st seen in Driver thus making what people now know as GTA a clone of Driver.
However, they are both rip offs of Body Count for the N64 so go figure.
imperialpod 1 year ago
@imperialpod
I see what you did there. :P
DOSDestroyer 1 year ago
@GamingShadow01 Yes but when you see Driv3r you start to understand they try to make a GTA
Llns1993 1 year ago
@GamingShadow01 yeah gta cloned this
jayjayteam 1 year ago
@GamingShadow01 No I definitely disagree, GTA came first, driver was the first 3D game, but as soon as GTA III became a huge success, Driver tried to follow the GTA formula and definitely copied a lot of GTAs ideas, GTA is way better though.
ATLMember 6 months ago
haha
"in fact i bought it for 15
THANKS AMAZON"
LOL
sigchaman2 1 year ago
Driver actually gave the idea to Rockstar to go third person because gta 2 wasn't doing great compared to driver
darthgecko101 1 year ago 4
@darthgecko101
I liked GTA 2. The game was nice to play from that perspective. and there was a file which u could open with word where all the car stats were shown, un could change the speed of the cars, that was fun hehe ;)
WuschelofDespair 1 year ago
@WuschelofDespair Hey listen I trying to download gta 2 off the website but when i fill out the forum id doesn't download, Help?
darthgecko101 1 year ago
@darthgecko101
I never tried to download gta 2, so I dont know. I used to have a disc of it I think
WuschelofDespair 1 year ago
can you get out of your car?
deadspace6000 1 year ago
@deadspace6000 yes
kirababy35 1 year ago
The Police are stupid in this game. Police are supposed to be smart. They see you get into a different car and they don't follow you?
slashslayer55 1 year ago
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lol the psp one is better. im just sayin!
geneward101 1 year ago
I'd say this would be T for teen instead od M
This game looks great!
TheSailorMoonFan2 2 years ago 2
is this game really that bad to get an M rating?
gameboy9402 2 years ago 45
@gameboy9402 People cuss like a mother fucker in this game. A T rating can only take so much profanity.
MrRottenHead2 1 year ago
@gameboy9402 use a gun = M
use a sword = E -_-
sweden360 1 year ago 15
@sweden360 elder scrolls?
MegaCoooy 1 month ago
@gameboy9402 yeah alot of swearing
superotterify 1 year ago
@gameboy9402 no, it deserves a T rating. There isn't even much blood...I don't even think there is any.
123meishere 1 year ago
@123meishere Yeah, look at Simpsons Hit & Run, it's almost the same concept as GTA and it's a T rated game....sadly it's the closed thing I'm gonna get to GTA... T_T
gameboy9402 1 year ago
@gameboy9402
I know what u mean. :(
mafiawarsmaster28 1 year ago
@gameboy9402 Yeah actually, it definitely deserves it
ATLMember 6 months ago
actualy driver is quite an ancient series lol
grarx 2 years ago
I remember when Driver came out on PC and it was sweeeeet! To bad they butchered it on consoles.
illmagnified 2 years ago 2
i still have the pc version of Driver and it only cost me $20
Timmy121088 2 years ago
ya i remember Driver was awsome with sweet graphics.
illmagnified 2 years ago
WHAT IS THIS GAME RATED
LandonRocksAtGH 2 years ago
M for Mature
MrTommychong 2 years ago
whys that i didnt find any violence in the game yet
nicomenges 2 years ago
Well you don't get the gun till the 3rd mission and you can still run over people with cars
MrTommychong 2 years ago
now i'm not graphics snob but holly hell was this ported from the N64? This game came out in 07.
swordofgenesis 2 years ago
does this game have guns?? seriously i havent seen any gameplay with guns
JOKER92092 2 years ago 3
@JOKER92092 i dont think so
iazy9 2 years ago
i rented it . u get ur first gun after the 2nd or 3rd mission . its pretty fun . i think its the best gta knock off on the market . i dont really care about the story .i just play destruction
JOKER92092 2 years ago 4
@JOKER92092 nice...
iazy9 2 years ago
@JOKER92092 this series came before the 3d gta games. its not a gta clone in a sense.
GamingShadow01 1 year ago
well i do
JOKER92092 2 years ago
meh, I have this game.I agree it's worth a buy, but if you think that GTA is not as good as this, you have'nt played GTA.
Also being simpsons fan, I enjoyed simpsons hit and run more than driver
but it's still the best GTA-like game on the wii (GTA-like, not clone)
krusty0s568 2 years ago
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im 9 years old and my parnets let me play m rated games! they never even cared when i was little i was playing CBFD in 2005
bio9831 2 years ago
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AlexTheGreatAK47 2 years ago
This guy is old enough to realise the first 3D free roaming/driving game was Driver 2, which preceeded GTA3 by a full years, so the Driver series is anything but a clone of GTA's free roaming/driving style! He needs to get his facts right. You'd think he would, he sounds waaaaay nerdy enough!?
LurkingCrassZero 2 years ago
this game is terrible
i have it and dont reccemond it
kdotmj 2 years ago
They'll just smile as they bounce off ur windshield!
TheGumGumMan 2 years ago
This one was actually ok. :).
Necropedofil 2 years ago
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Driver 3 on ps3 looks better
AlexTheGreatAK47 2 years ago
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SHIT, have a cookie.
NEO117 2 years ago
it seems like every game that comes out that envolves,free roaming around a city,jacking cars,and shooting peds and cops is automaticly deemed a GTA clone,its not fair :(
dlc333333 2 years ago
I orderd this game friday, and a i hope i dont get dissapointed because it cost me 28 fucking dollars!
rocioarturodiana 2 years ago
this game was mad. definetely one of the better games on wii
WINSLOVE1 2 years ago
what age rating is this?
The2012Alien 2 years ago
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AlexTheGreatAK47 2 years ago
Gtfo....
Rorschach1212 2 years ago
@The2012Alien M
cnnllygt 2 years ago
I dont why youre parents even let you play m rated games at 4 its nuts
onearmedmario 2 years ago
Driver came out on playstation 1, so driver is not a remake by far.
Coorweiser 2 years ago 2
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i have this game the wii fucking sucks get an xbox 360 or ps3
armyof2brothers 2 years ago
The game was great but the camara pissed me off so mutch
awsomeprouductions 2 years ago
This looks better than GTA in a few way's but overall GTA is better but does GTA ever say it takes place in New York? and in 1978 you can see the WTC GTA just takes place in 2008 driver takes place in 1978 and 2006 :P
2010mustang1 2 years ago
What were they thinking Blondie sang "one way or another" in 1979 not 1978 and in 1978 I hope you can't steal any planes because of the World Trade Cente lol!
2010mustang1 2 years ago
I bet it takes place in Metropolis and at the end of the game you have an epic fight with superman and you shoot him in the eye like in Epic Movie Does GTA have that? :P
2010mustang1 2 years ago
I live in Metropolis, Illinois.
Deoxysdog 2 years ago
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onearmedmario 2 years ago
dude his name is wiiviewR
JacobNerison 2 years ago
I'm so mad. I want this game and it's 17 and up. I'm 15, isn't that close enough?
Joshstuff 2 years ago 3
LOL, I'm getting M rated games and I'm 13 NOOB!
falcondrop96 2 years ago
i loved this game but isnt it m where is your warning
korn2disturbed 2 years ago
this is one of his earlier reviews so it isnt here
Rand0mAzn 2 years ago
gta 4 rocks
AL1NO3 2 years ago 2
well its because the wiimote is the camera basicly so when u put down the controll it fudges up
lucalukita16 2 years ago
YA! there r tons!!!
JACKASSPWNED 2 years ago
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el juego es una mierda pero es lo mas cerca que tenemos de un gta en wii xd
theloquendero1 2 years ago
the absolute best gta copy is godfather. that was amazing imo
thedudeperson 2 years ago
godfather 2 because its newer
gamermonkeylord0007 2 years ago
un juego bueno bueno bueno bueno del parabueno
cirssdj 2 years ago
Dunno why but he sound depresed in every mature game review. He sound much happier in other non-mature game reviews.
MaririSpirit 2 years ago
He seems kind of depressed in this video.
Nepbot 2 years ago 3
I think its the mic because when he's happy he is louder i think
howching 2 years ago
boxy economy cars LOL
2010mustang1 2 years ago
i dont think of them as copys iff the game are fun
2ben67 2 years ago
I can outrun the police in any gta game with 2 or more stars, you just have to be a good driver.
fatsug50 2 years ago
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Yea I agree with the guy before GTA copied Driver the best game ever so GTA can go die >.>
bmbheat24 2 years ago
You mean the original Driver that was nearly unplayable due to its horrible framerate and constant dips? Driver might've gone to a 3D open world first, but GTA III was the first one to do it succesfull on nearly every front.
GTA was groundbreaking, Driver was decent at best.
IAmACarkey 2 years ago
Well yea but they still copied Driver with GTA all I'm saying..ok, ok I shouldn't have said
Grand Theft Auto can go die since it's a great day.
Yes GTA remade a great game into an amazing game. So Driver came first but GTA is better I'm sorry I wasn't thinking when I said it can go die.
bmbheat24 2 years ago
lol day I meant game woops..
bmbheat24 2 years ago
Driver Is not a fucking GTA Clone Driver was out before The original Gta , dumbass
IzzYandPalpro 2 years ago
u r the best reviewer, can u buy a ps3 or xbox and review those games cus reviewers for those consoles r crap
jmw195 2 years ago
GTA is way better that has bad graphics
TheRatView 2 years ago
Graphics don't make up a game dumbass
rufflesthemonkey 2 years ago
Driver has also been like this,
So GTA copied Driver
MewCrew 2 years ago
i remember the first driver rated T for teen,not being to get out of the car,awesome.
InsanimationStudios 2 years ago
oh yea!i remeber that hahah
socc3rchamp 2 years ago
can you actually get out of your car and kill someone or something because just driving around is kinda gay
GCowner 2 years ago
actually once i got 4 stars and i was able to out run the police.
IndyJones4th 2 years ago
this is like f$&king grand theft auto except with no missions and you get to ride bikes and etc and u get to swim and go on boats
fadoodles98 2 years ago
hey fadoodles98, there are missons stupid!
NMHSF08 2 years ago
there are missions dumbass
socc3rchamp 2 years ago
he said in the reveiw " I liked the fact that the MISSION objectives..."
darthcpo 2 years ago
Diver is my brother's geat game
1soniccool 2 years ago
driver 3 was better than any gta game
koolaid7200 2 years ago
is it rated M
IndyJones4th 2 years ago
Yes.
alihafezi101 2 years ago
i think i'll actually buy this
WeeLewyBee 2 years ago
is this 18 rated ( or M0
xbox360loligan 2 years ago
17 is M. 18 is AO
coldkeyes 2 years ago