also i saw a white orb almost transparent behind it from right to left and my roomate saw another orc almost red on the left then the red one stoped with the O shaped one and the O shaped one got brighter and started going east the other one stayed flashing red and white then was gone
i seen this same kind of object over southern california june 30 2008 was on my balcany with my roomate smoking and we saw something shining in the sky i had my binoculars with me when i was watching it it went east then stoped and came back west and stoped then hoved for like 5 mins with bright lights coming off of it could only see the bottom at first metal then a full cirle after i looked awway to call my gf looked exactly like that but metal shiny bright white then metalic blue like oxidixed
"that cant be anything of human design, its travelling way too fast compared to what we have, if its real that is."
If you don't know how big the object is then you have absolutely no reference for how fast the object is going. Additionally the object would be in orbit, just like the satellite that filmed it, which is going quite fast indeed, in fact I would say the satellite and the object are probably travelling at roughly the same speed.
It seems to be just a shadow of anything. Check 3:28 to 3:29 , we have suddenly a small hill and the shape of the ring changes a lil bit around. Know what i mean?
I'm no expert on camera panning and zooming but it appears the Moon is rotating and we all know the Moon does NOT rotate right? If the Moon is not rotating, then the camera is orbiting the Moon. Though someone panning to follow an object could cause the Moon to seem like it is rotating, watch at the end of each shot how the Moon appears to rotate in another direction...perhaps the rotation of the original footage. Seems like he could have used some old Apollo footage in a high orbit.
That looks like those ufo's from those official NASA videos that look transparent sometimes. Yes? Or have I seen too many of these damn videos? They remind me of those ufo's that come down and observe thunder/lightning storms. They even showed intelligence by coming to formation and then illuminating. One time I think these guys were even measured by a tether that came loose from a space shuttle mission and was estimated to be a mile and a half long.
if its fake, whats to gain? he doesent take money from anyone....
he sure got the equipment for filming in space, and fastwalkers have been filmd on the moon before, so to call it fake is stupid... if you can make a fake that looks like this to compare we sure would be interested in comparing .....
More FAKE crap just like the rest of his trash. I feel truly sorry for the gullible mental midgets who think his videos are real. Not one of them with the slightest bit of knowledge regarding astronomy or photography. I'm sure this guy is having a great laugh with the reactions he gets from the "believers" in his hoax.
This looks too good to be true. The problem with this subject is; even if you have good evidence, peoples personal ego's and jealousy all come into play. The shadow)it seems like to me) seems to be moving very quickly, but at times the telescope seems to keep pace, how does he manage this? Have you or he contacted any news agency the BBC for example to see what they make of this? If this IS true, it should be shown to the mainstream press immediately.
There is only one clip. There is a video pan edit to closely see the "shadow" moving across the surface and is the same clip. Media not interested in any of this. If you want i can upload the original clip so you can hear John gasp. John doesn't talk on any of the space videos.
If it were real, it wouldn't be out of focus while the moon is in focus. It looks like something was thrown in front of the telescope while filming...
Could you answer my questions please Mr. Gridkeeper. I would like to add, I found these vids' on the Jeff Rense 'Site. Also why does he dub music onto them and not his voice?
This film should be on the news...if real. Thou i am a beliver, i have hard time trusting most videos these days. Seems too easy to make a good fakes...
You ever tried to contact a news agency, explained to them if they could put a light on this, and if they could find someone that could make a decent answer to these?
it looks like a projection,maybe from a human source,maybe from an alien source?? interesting! i watch ur vids all the time,sum are amazing!!! just wish we cud get sum very clear shots,none have have ever been really clear,i will say say that i witnessed a small disc or probe enter a huge cloud recently, and the cloud dissapeared in seconds!!! the other clouds around did not! gud work grid.
yes i know what you mean by that. what's interesting about this video is the way the "shadow" moves across the surface. If it was a flat surface then this wouldlook different.
thats true...it should be possible to figure out the size and position of the object, if we knew the lights position and distance, and the scale moon is in this film. Sounds crazy, i know, but its possible.
Interesting, I have seen many clips from others showing shadows (fastwalkers) on the moons surface.
I'm looking forward to the new website that's mentioned in your video. When will it be online?
Very anxious to see and learn how to film like JLW, been waiting a long time to learn his technique. It will be much appreciated and it will open a new arena for all who have been curious on what really is up there.
It will also stiffen any debate on the reality of what has been revealed thusfar
You hoaxers that say it IS One. Show me how it was done NOT how it could be Done. I believe most anything until proven Wrong.
The Idiots of this World Tell me to Prove things that need NOT to be proven.
Accept and Disprove. Not disapprove and NEVER accept. YOU provers are little Boys holding your groin. We accepters will Dance on Your GRAVES YOU understand NOT.WE are Watchers and seek to show what we have SEEN to find someone who Knows What WE have SEEN WHAT Dickheads
Thanks for your comment friend. I have not forgotten you/us, just need to sort some things out with no interference from mutual people we know, very important. speak soon, sorry for not being in touch but i have to do this for a short while.
I dont know what to make of this, Looks like a shadow to me..But what from is the question. What ever it is is moving at great speed. Dont know why but I am thinking about the tether incident and the shapes of what we saw around the tether, Hole in the middle.. Could be the same? xox
exactly what I thought the moment i saw it. I'm sure those things are a species of earth life that live in near earth space and aren't very large, this by comparison must be huge by the size of the shadow it's making. I'm having serious doubts about this one GK
Major,I knew you guys would hit something even bigger,just a matter of right place right time.This is flying over most peoples headsLook forward to the new site.
Surly this is a shadow cast down onto the moons surface, as to what would make the shadow that would be interesting, but this is not that spectacular, IMPO
Ps.I can move lights in the sky while the clouds move as well, Plus I can have some out of sight techno playing in the background as well. People let's do better with the remaining time we have left on this medium.
OK, upon second viewing I notice the hole is constricting. I also notice that images show it at different shadow angles.- for how long was it observed?
Hi it's the same angle but the video was rotates 180 degrees which gives the illusion of a different angle but is the same. Also the is a close video pan edit of the same clip.(just added this to the video description).
Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons?
hiphypno 2 years ago
ive never seen that before where are u guys so i can blow it down and see what it is!!!!
Bryan31254 3 years ago
also i saw a white orb almost transparent behind it from right to left and my roomate saw another orc almost red on the left then the red one stoped with the O shaped one and the O shaped one got brighter and started going east the other one stayed flashing red and white then was gone
a1ManArmy 3 years ago
i seen this same kind of object over southern california june 30 2008 was on my balcany with my roomate smoking and we saw something shining in the sky i had my binoculars with me when i was watching it it went east then stoped and came back west and stoped then hoved for like 5 mins with bright lights coming off of it could only see the bottom at first metal then a full cirle after i looked awway to call my gf looked exactly like that but metal shiny bright white then metalic blue like oxidixed
a1ManArmy 3 years ago
great
JohnLenardWalson 3 years ago
that cant be anything of human design, its travelling way too fast compared to what we have, if its real that is.
rich2kk7 3 years ago
"that cant be anything of human design, its travelling way too fast compared to what we have, if its real that is."
If you don't know how big the object is then you have absolutely no reference for how fast the object is going. Additionally the object would be in orbit, just like the satellite that filmed it, which is going quite fast indeed, in fact I would say the satellite and the object are probably travelling at roughly the same speed.
SirMildredPierce 3 years ago
a spent stage of a Saturn V (or other) Rocket?
johnschaser 3 years ago
It seems to be just a shadow of anything. Check 3:28 to 3:29 , we have suddenly a small hill and the shape of the ring changes a lil bit around. Know what i mean?
RedTribune 3 years ago 2
I'm no expert on camera panning and zooming but it appears the Moon is rotating and we all know the Moon does NOT rotate right? If the Moon is not rotating, then the camera is orbiting the Moon. Though someone panning to follow an object could cause the Moon to seem like it is rotating, watch at the end of each shot how the Moon appears to rotate in another direction...perhaps the rotation of the original footage. Seems like he could have used some old Apollo footage in a high orbit.
jcricket46 3 years ago
It was filmed on the ground in the UK.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
That looks like those ufo's from those official NASA videos that look transparent sometimes. Yes? Or have I seen too many of these damn videos? They remind me of those ufo's that come down and observe thunder/lightning storms. They even showed intelligence by coming to formation and then illuminating. One time I think these guys were even measured by a tether that came loose from a space shuttle mission and was estimated to be a mile and a half long.
uoldphuk 3 years ago
agreed
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
Hi Grid check out the video above there are nine parts.Please let me know what you think.
tarifa37 3 years ago
if its fake, whats to gain? he doesent take money from anyone....
he sure got the equipment for filming in space, and fastwalkers have been filmd on the moon before, so to call it fake is stupid... if you can make a fake that looks like this to compare we sure would be interested in comparing .....
cheers
MOTOVTRE 3 years ago
Fake.
ashes2flames 3 years ago
not.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
More FAKE crap just like the rest of his trash. I feel truly sorry for the gullible mental midgets who think his videos are real. Not one of them with the slightest bit of knowledge regarding astronomy or photography. I'm sure this guy is having a great laugh with the reactions he gets from the "believers" in his hoax.
ashes2flames 3 years ago
Not fake.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
don't all these asholes screaming fake on every single video piss you off..
Smokeablunt82 3 years ago
No I think they just get more pissed off themselves lol.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
cool stuff
punjow 3 years ago
That would be great.
MightyPotternumber1 3 years ago
You are either Lucky Johnny or really committed to what You are doing.
Either way THanks for sharing with us those movies.
Wayshower1982 3 years ago
I think he may have both.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
It would be better if instead of the music, we heard the reaction of the person filming. That would tell you more.
Aswell as being big, it's moving at a stupendous speed.
MightyPotternumber1 3 years ago
he gave a gasp.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
This looks too good to be true. The problem with this subject is; even if you have good evidence, peoples personal ego's and jealousy all come into play. The shadow)it seems like to me) seems to be moving very quickly, but at times the telescope seems to keep pace, how does he manage this? Have you or he contacted any news agency the BBC for example to see what they make of this? If this IS true, it should be shown to the mainstream press immediately.
MightyPotternumber1 3 years ago 2
There is only one clip. There is a video pan edit to closely see the "shadow" moving across the surface and is the same clip. Media not interested in any of this. If you want i can upload the original clip so you can hear John gasp. John doesn't talk on any of the space videos.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
I agree, it should be.
enroserie 3 years ago
thanks for sharing...
the dark can change into light..make the choice:)
much love to all
Skipper1177 3 years ago
there are satalites shaped like that.....could just be a shadow of one as it moved in front of the sunlight.
josiahdallas 3 years ago
If it were real, it wouldn't be out of focus while the moon is in focus. It looks like something was thrown in front of the telescope while filming...
jians5 3 years ago
If this was real, or at least potentially real, it would be on the news like the Larry King thing.
scatters12 3 years ago
not true.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
Fake...
lukaszmilek 3 years ago 2
people can't understand that this man started with genuine things, then got hoaxing..
it's a shame, I'm with you.
elfranz 3 years ago
So why now think he's hoaxing?
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
Could you answer my questions please Mr. Gridkeeper. I would like to add, I found these vids' on the Jeff Rense 'Site. Also why does he dub music onto them and not his voice?
MightyPotternumber1 3 years ago
I like the music.what is their to say?Its a ring flying above the moon! nuff said
wakeywakeyworld 3 years ago
This film should be on the news...if real. Thou i am a beliver, i have hard time trusting most videos these days. Seems too easy to make a good fakes...
WeAreAllAlone 3 years ago
hi, the media don't seem to want to touch any of these films.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
You ever tried to contact a news agency, explained to them if they could put a light on this, and if they could find someone that could make a decent answer to these?
WeAreAllAlone 3 years ago
i love the music
da5younggunna 3 years ago
it looks like a projection,maybe from a human source,maybe from an alien source?? interesting! i watch ur vids all the time,sum are amazing!!! just wish we cud get sum very clear shots,none have have ever been really clear,i will say say that i witnessed a small disc or probe enter a huge cloud recently, and the cloud dissapeared in seconds!!! the other clouds around did not! gud work grid.
cptskellern 3 years ago
i meant its "only lookin like a fake" but i believe its real
BerSerKer2k8 3 years ago
yes i know what you mean by that. what's interesting about this video is the way the "shadow" moves across the surface. If it was a flat surface then this wouldlook different.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
thats true...it should be possible to figure out the size and position of the object, if we knew the lights position and distance, and the scale moon is in this film. Sounds crazy, i know, but its possible.
WeAreAllAlone 3 years ago
Great presentation. Another discovery! Thanks for sharing GK.
chencf 3 years ago
Interesting, I have seen many clips from others showing shadows (fastwalkers) on the moons surface.
I'm looking forward to the new website that's mentioned in your video. When will it be online?
Very anxious to see and learn how to film like JLW, been waiting a long time to learn his technique. It will be much appreciated and it will open a new arena for all who have been curious on what really is up there.
It will also stiffen any debate on the reality of what has been revealed thusfar
sorscoder 3 years ago
There is no set time for this to happen.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
Wow. You can see how the shadows distort as it moves over the landscape. It must be huge whatever it was.
SUPERBURRITO 3 years ago
Yes and if it was faked as some people are suggesting then that would not be possible. Great observation.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
maybe its the "Mysterons" :)
I do appreciate your great vids, I am just to weak to resist expressing this childlike thought. Keep up the great work
exiteu 3 years ago
thanks and you're welcome.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
I can't even tell what I'm looking at??? Is that supposed to be the surface of the moon??? How are you getting such close up pics of the moon in 07??
loathar21 3 years ago
hi please see my moon playlist for many more close ups of the moon. there's even one showing the back of the telescope.thanks.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
You hoaxers that say it IS One. Show me how it was done NOT how it could be Done. I believe most anything until proven Wrong.
The Idiots of this World Tell me to Prove things that need NOT to be proven.
Accept and Disprove. Not disapprove and NEVER accept. YOU provers are little Boys holding your groin. We accepters will Dance on Your GRAVES YOU understand NOT.WE are Watchers and seek to show what we have SEEN to find someone who Knows What WE have SEEN WHAT Dickheads
Runinfox 3 years ago
Thanks for your comment friend. I have not forgotten you/us, just need to sort some things out with no interference from mutual people we know, very important. speak soon, sorry for not being in touch but i have to do this for a short while.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
i give you a 5 star on that reply...cheers m8, for putting that issue on the spot...
MOTOVTRE 3 years ago
Runinfox
MOTOVTRE 3 years ago
looks like a poor fake..
BerSerKer2k8 3 years ago
not fake, looks like shadow.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
not fake.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
I dont know what to make of this, Looks like a shadow to me..But what from is the question. What ever it is is moving at great speed. Dont know why but I am thinking about the tether incident and the shapes of what we saw around the tether, Hole in the middle.. Could be the same? xox
realvworld 3 years ago
thanks RV I agree with you entirely. x.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
exactly what I thought the moment i saw it. I'm sure those things are a species of earth life that live in near earth space and aren't very large, this by comparison must be huge by the size of the shadow it's making. I'm having serious doubts about this one GK
inkslug1 3 years ago
if it was fake then why does the shadow ripple across the surface.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
here another way to do it
take a laser light
or laser wond that you can get at any doller store beam the light on to the projester lens
you see it for your self
glendouglas2 3 years ago
Good try keep up the good fake work
glendouglas2 3 years ago
Not fake mr.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
to bad its not a ufo
next time you take a video film
of the moon and play it on a plasma tv
useing a magnet ring across the tv cherm
then filming, that what you get
glendouglas2 3 years ago
Ok,could you reproduce useing your method and post.I would like to see how it is done.Put it up as a video response so we can all see.
tarifa37 3 years ago
Yes i'd like to see that one. funny how the truth stares so many people in the face yet many are unable to see.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
that things, whatever it is, is HUGE and ULTRA FAST!!
cosmeivan 3 years ago
It's a ball of water or glass sphere. That's the kind of refraction of light that these objects would produce.
thinkofwhy 3 years ago
fake
turbolexusis300 3 years ago
no.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
Major,I knew you guys would hit something even bigger,just a matter of right place right time.This is flying over most peoples headsLook forward to the new site.
humanswin 3 years ago
Thanks friend.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
weird
superexyooper 3 years ago
I realize I don't know much....but,where are the other ones?Most aren't alone,so where are the other ones?
Aliensinner1 3 years ago
check out my vid response ... theres always stuff crusin the moon ..
rigotech 3 years ago
i don't know what itis,but a cool video
MYTV7 3 years ago
Surly this is a shadow cast down onto the moons surface, as to what would make the shadow that would be interesting, but this is not that spectacular, IMPO
Quandary121 3 years ago
well besides that, that thing its really fast because past on the moon surface in a very few seconds so ...
RE4E 3 years ago
yea this looks suspect like i said a shadow of some sort and that would account for the speed
Quandary121 3 years ago
Yes it looks like a shadow that's what i thought.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
again
djbreeduk 3 years ago
thankyou, when the tracks finished i'll upload it again, haven't even written the bassline yet.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
good vid yet gain m8,good trk also :)
djbreeduk 3 years ago
Can't wait for new web site and your info for filming in space!
Been using Watec 902H for some time to film meteors and have seen many unusual objects also. I hope I can use a 8" Dobsonian with low lux camera.
navajojimmy38 3 years ago
Umm Doughnuts ! Don't let Homer Simpson see this or he will be hijacking the next available shuttle up there. Is strange though .
tarifa37 3 years ago
Ps.I can move lights in the sky while the clouds move as well, Plus I can have some out of sight techno playing in the background as well. People let's do better with the remaining time we have left on this medium.
chaddjutube 3 years ago
Why not do it - then we can compare. Peace.
stjohnstjohn 3 years ago
yes i agree it would be more than nice to have comparisons.
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
I yarn at this discovery! When we see buildings and life on the moon picture then I will take notice but for now the music sounds nice.
chaddjutube 3 years ago
OK, upon second viewing I notice the hole is constricting. I also notice that images show it at different shadow angles.- for how long was it observed?
seneca67 3 years ago
Hi it's the same angle but the video was rotates 180 degrees which gives the illusion of a different angle but is the same. Also the is a close video pan edit of the same clip.(just added this to the video description).
GRIDKEEPER 3 years ago
Shadow cast by object. Perhaps approximate trajectory/ position in relation to Earth/Moon can be determined. What do you think it is?
seneca67 3 years ago