prison in the euro/american paradigm exists to enslave and oppress the growth of non whites.. to destroy the non white family structure and disempower those peoples in order to keep them in a position of perptetual servitude and suffering..period!
So there's a white family structure vs. nonwhite family structure? You're racist and should be forced to attend sensitivity and diversity training. There's a black president so you're just a lazy scumbag unfit even for lab tests. Since you think there's a white family structure verses a nonwhite family structure, you must also be a brutal racist. It's racist to oppose wife beating and dog torturing now I guess.
@TheFlanker35 I read podzillart's post and i didnt get what you got from it (obviously) my translation: Prison is set up to target non whites THUS destroying the family structure of non whites which otherwise would be the same as whites. This is not saying that the family structure is different to begin with. I THINK he is saying that this is one of the causes of the breakdown of these families. I didnt read any racism (maybe I read the wrong post) :-)
When you put it that way, it doesn't sound racist and I could have misread it. I thought he was talking about a lot of the family structures in Africa where a child is called a different name by everyone in his neighborhood so he has twenty names or so.
an old way of thinking. In the current times with much of the population we are growing up in a time of accepted multiculturalism. The notion of relating the world to a global south and relating everything to the black struggle, could potentially make people become close minded and not want to listen to Angela Davis' very strong, powerful and true message. The fact is that the PIC takes advantage of all races from the lower socioeconomic people...not just blacks and not just hispanics.
race has play a major part in prison reform and civil rights. see the new Florida change in civil rights restoration of the convicted. the majority of convicted felons are black men
until you live in a given perspective and experience its hard to separate that from the bigger reality. take for instance, most of the people in florida prison are black, who will lose their civil rights which used to be restored automatically. However, that's no longer the case as of march 2011. the struggle is forever that more eluding them. I am from Florida but now live in Canada. these sort of systematic state practice will forever hold down a people based on races.
I agree with majority of angela davis' theories; however, she is a women of the civil rights movement and of the black power movement and because of those two factors I feel that she sees the world in colors and races. I do not fault her for this because this is the way she was raised and what she lived. However, I feel as though her theory would be better stated by replacing any notion of race with a notion of low socioeconomic south. I feel as relating everything to the black struggle is such
I honestly feel that if they legalize marijuana (which they won't) then a lot of blacks will not be in the prisons...weed has never caused anyone to kill anyone as far as I know...but here in Chicago alone..there are drunk police officers who drink & drive and kill innocent people, but they get probation and they stay at home...and they still get to keep their jobs doing 'desk duty'...sickening. Not all people in the prison system are guilty.
what makes me upset is that some white people act like they are saints. they say well the majority of black people are in jails but never open their mouths to mention their own people who are in jail, killing their wives babies selling dope rapping their women.but you have the nerve to blame all the problems of this country on the black man, never recognizing the contributions he has brought to this country.
@thelostism the new black panther party is trash. you have been fooled into believing that the real and honest party was racist. these young kids where doing things for their community that the goverment would not do. the media and the government never told you why they were such a threat when it was lawful for a man in california to bare arms. the fbi and the police terrorized the bpp b/c they were afiard of the conscience blacks
Excuse me, sir. You do realize that the New Blcak Panther Party and the Black Panther Party are two different entities? One has the word "New" in its name; the other does not.
The members of the original Black Panther Party have publicly denounced the racist idiots composing the New Black Panther Party. The Black Panthers (original) were not about racism.
"Why would we fight against racism with more racism?" ~ Huey P. Newton
Anyone who calls the Black Panthers racist or extremist do not know the Black Panthers. In fact, the society wich gave birth to the Black Panthers is racist and extremist. Get your facts straight.
Like all right-wingers, you have no facts. What you have is stupidity & moronity & more stupidity & more moronity. It never ends with morons. George Bush was your chief moron; the best you had to offer: moronity, stupidity, idiocy.
@bapyou right on!! people where and still are brainwashed by the media. the media nad the givernment perpretrated those lies to destroy the foward movement of black poor whites and na. they never talked about the good they were doing.. the fbi picked off the black leaders one by one with no regard to the lives they where taking. you are so right.
Yes. The Panthers were about revolution, and a Marxist revolution at that. This is why they were targeted by the FBI. J. Edgar Hoover -- the head of the FBI -- got his start killing, harassing and jailing American communists. (J. Edgar Hoover was also a closeted homosexual who harrassed other homosexuals.)
You are free to say what you want in America, as long as what you say does not upset the powers in charge. If you pose a serious threat to them, they will come after you.
It's allways great to see, hear or read from Angela Davis. She is one of the most adorable political and feminist women worldwide. Before anyone talks bullshit about her... read her books first and listen the her documented speeches!
@AcePilot101 "Davis was a member of the Communist Party USA. Tell me how many Chinese or Russian prisons have been closed."
Davis is neither Chinese nor Russian. And, in case you haven't heard, Russia is officially no longer communist; it's become a capitalist cesspool in which -- exactly like the U.S. -- a few elites hold a majority of the wealth while the remainder flounder earning a living.
Angela Davis is an American. She has no sway in any country but her own.
When she got out of prison in CA, the car carrying her drove right past me and my boyfriend. I was so glad she got out and has done so much instead of rotting in prison. She was one of my early heros.
When are blacks going to take responsibilty for their own actions?"Don't do the crime if you can't do the time"...t.v. show baretta circa ealy 1970's!!
When you take responsibility for slavery. When you take responsibility for polluting indigenous people's lands in south america for Oil production, when you take responsibility for Prison Industrial Complex, Military Industrial Complex, when you take responsibility for your diet and how it impacts others. When you quit choosing ignorance. Whites also have yet to take real responsibility for the Native American holocaust. "Don't do the crime if you can't pay the legistlator to write the law."
I wonder what she thinks about the ufo disclosure issue and the reason we're all in prisons. Some with bars and most of us without? Check out the Camelot Project's youtube videos. I love Angela Davis.
That's because you're an authoritarian and can't even consider radical alternatives. Sadly you probably believe in the rest of the corrupt institutions in this society.
Watch some of her entire speeches. Prison abolition originally was a legitimate conversation right when they were formed.
How are people criminally insane? What causes that in the first place?
You should pick up some of Angela Davis' books on this topic because you are missing her arguments.
Shes not just talking about abolishing prisons but BUILDING new institutions, because throwing someone in a cage doesn't solve the issue. She argues that we should be going to the root of the problem and dealing with the actual issues.
In other words no. Read the book called instead of prisons by the critical resistance collective.
If you understand what encourages criminal activity then you can understand her position. No ones defending rapist, murders and child molesters, 70% of the people who are in jail, committed non
violent acts, since the war on drugs more minorities have been the target of prosecution, although 85% of drug
consumption is done by whites, this is disproportionate, the only thing different from a white drug dealer and a black drug dealer, is that the black drug dealer is more likely to go to jail!
Define "drugs", not everyone goes to jail for selling drugs, for example Zamicet is a narcotic that is marketed to children. Not even hardened street dealers sell to kids. Marijuanna doesn't cause increased risk of heart attack but Naproxen (Alleve), Vioxx, Celebrex, and Bextra do. Do you trust these drugs just because a large industry is behind them? Isn't it interesting that white people decide which drugs get to be legal and which don't? I guess it's not as simple as "don't sell drugs."
any obsession with politics is in vain its all bull,and if u truly comprehended the nature of american politics you'd be cognizant of how all western politics are symbiotic - hence the justification for my interest.with that said,my interest in this vid has less to do with politics than to do with the plight of my black people in the midst of an inherently racist and hypocritical institution.on a final note,all that rhetoric on socialism & hand outs was irrelevant and just plain dumb cobra
Tell me, how likely am I to get robbed, intimidated or manhandled in a black neighborhood. Now tell me the same would be just as likely when you walk around in a white neighborhood (not counting a white trash filled trailer park).
You say: "not counting a white-trash filled trailer park". Why not? Doesn't that support my point -- that crime is more a function of education and socio-economic status rather than race?
Because the ratio white trash to normal whites is way lower than the ratio niggers to normal black people.
It's like you're saying group A doesn't perform action A because they are from group A, because there are some people from group B that perform action A too.
You see the logical fallacy? You don't take proportion into account AT ALL.
"Dr." Davis is not making anywhere near a valid argument as to why prisons are "obsolete." Just because people are making money from running prisons or people of color are locked up is not an argument for obsolescence. Dr. Davis has always had street cred from the 60s and 70s but has never been a responsible academic. When Richard Pryor made the movie Stir Crazy, it was filmed in a penitentiary and after the movie he said,"Thank God we go penitentiaries." I agree with him.
You seem to be buying into the idea that rehabilitation and deterrence are the only goals of prisons. Prisons are there to segregate predatory people who can't function in society from the rest of us who can. Don't kid yourself, the fact that you can live in a society where murders and rapist can be locked up is, despite the rants of Ms. Davis, a good thing regardless of the perpetrators race.
There are four reasons to lock people up - rehabilitation, deterrence, retribution, and "separation". The authorities claim prisons are there to reform and rehabilitate. But in these respects they don't work. The separation idea would only work if all who went to prison couldn't function in society, and they were never released. But many in prison can function in society. Prisons cannot be done away with overnight, and I don't say there is a simple solution to the problem of crime.
There may always be a need for the truly incorrigible being somehow separated, but that does not necessitate the traditional prison system.
I believe most crime might be eradicated by the eradication of poverty and the certainty of detection. Of course these are probably unattainable goals, but more attention given to the causes of crime rather than to retribution after the event may help. My position is not necessarily identical to Dr Davis's, btw. I believe some of her points are valid.
Criminals aren't the victims and must be punished to keep the rational human beings who lack an overly strong sense of morality from committing crimes.
Prison sentence works as a deterrent. It's just that there are some people who value their and others' freedom so low they risk the possibility of getting imprisoned for short-term personal gain.
there is criminal activity, that is what is against the law and then there are "heinous acts" which are also against the law but more dire than other criminality. "criminals" become victims of the system u highly regard when a young drug dealer gets less time than a rapist or murderer etc. there is an unfair disparity in the way they are sentenced hence the victimization of "criminals''
Dr (and she has a genuine PhD and is academically very competent) Davis is not saying for a moment that prisons are obsolete because people are making money from them or because people of colour are locked up. That is grossly misrepresenting her. She says they don't work at eradicating or reducing crime. She is correct. The problem is that her solution would take decades to implement and is probably over-idealistic.
Prison sentence isn't just for preventing crime or curing criminals. It's also for retribution for crimes committed against society. It's a way of determining right and wrong and a way to keep people from exacting justice upon wrongdoers by themselves. This is a condition for a stable civilization. Forsake this concept and you get barbarism, chaos and anarchy.
Society can't function without a government punishing those that would disturb the order it needs to survive.
you r brainwashed in my opinion and the notion of prisons curing criminals is ridiculous especially when many if not most "criminal" acts,(ur drug dealing,smuggling,gang violence) are usually symptomatic of socio-economic issues.the true chaos is when corporations are molding your definition of right and wrong,ultimately siding the public with their ideals but in truth theyre hypocrites selling u nicotine,tar n liquor while a 1rst time 18 yr old crack offender gets up to 20 yrs in prison
oh boi..look something that is "theoretical" is analogous to a feasible "if" or "maybe" but nothing can b attributed 2 the former nor the latter in this case because corporations do sell citizens scientifically proven detrimental n potentially fatal products and go unpunished (taxes) while crack dealers caught with a few grams get up to 20 yrs there4 fueling the dependency of prisons on corporations 4 their products.theres nothing remotely fictitious about that hence ur "theorist" claims r moot
and no you did not come up with those conclusions yourself. i hear the government reiterating the same garbage constantly..u keep thinking they care about you or any1 else other than themselves ull never conceive the big picture that way..but u are brainwashed so u probably arent aware that there is one 2 begin with
blaaskaak666 -- yeah u can think all day that all people shd be punished equally based on offenses. The point of argument is the reality of the matter is that they are not at all ! That is just the fact. In TX dozens of men have recently been freed after decades in prisons for false sexual assault convictions-most were black.
Don't get me wrong, everything she says is true, cause the prison-industrial complex is just that: an intricate system from which to get cheap labor. But, if one wants to avoid being part of that, one must avoid committing crimes...PEACE.
how can black people committ more crime when there are more white people in the US. The law has been and will always b 1 sided AGAINST people of color. Everyone committs crime but te jails r full to compasity with people of color
I'm talking percentages, you mentally challenged twat. I'm going to assume that you're black and that you have a victim complex so I won't bother explaining in detail since that probably won't have any effect.
yes I'm BLACK and I've been sent to jail for a crime I DID NOT committ. Not only are alot of laws framed to hurt people of color they are framed to keep people of color law ignorant and inpoverished.
in orlando florida the police r being rewarded 4 making arrest, don't u think they will target people of color and poor neighborhoods? u should b smart enuf 2 know cops don't target white neighborhoods 4 people 2 arrest although many many crimes r committed in those neighborhoods(child abuse, spouse abuse, in home drug abues and dealing) crime is everywhere not only in black neighborhoods
You still only have pointed your finger at others, playing the role of victim.
If you don't like it, please take action. Form/join a pressure group to set things right. Also, black neighbourhoods GENERALLY have MORE CRIME so they send MORE OFFICERS there. Seems perfectly logical to me.
Now please quote/link to those laws you were talking about and don't try to change the subject.
How many crimes have you committed but never got caught for lack of police patrol in your area? This is what the issue is and not that lame statistic thing you're trying to use. Let's patrol your Hood and do the Big Brother thing on you. Of course you get the point. You just think we don't.
The natural fact is that all races commit crimes at the same rate. It's a natural known fact that police patrol neighborhoods more where people of color live. That's why you all can operate your meth labs in peace for long periods of time. That's why it's easier to abduct and kidnap a white child even out of his/her own bed while parents sleep. Looks like you're the victim here, but you're too racist to see that. You look good.
Nope. In the Netherlands, people from the Netherlands Antilles and Marroco commit way more crime that westerners.
Also, I don't do crime, but I live in a "black" neighbourhood and it's a real problem area. When I visit some of my friends in a "white" neighboorhood, all's peaceful and you don't have to be afraid of getting beat up for confronting some hooligans with their actions (there aren't any).
lets see: corporations promote the prison system in order to sell soap. that claim undercuts the seriousness of the argument. cant even conceive of prisons as a response to crime? too simple i suppose
I agree Angela. Every prisoner costs a certain amount of money, and people like John McCain and Dick Cheney are the leaches who are earning profits from these prisoners.
Just like during the holocaust. Each Jewish person in those concentration camps were priced at a certain amount of money and certain people were profiting from those prisoners as well. The way these people are profiting from the prison system is no different than the way they profited from the concentration camps during WW2.
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This woman is very foolish. She was wrong from the very get go. Prisons have and do work if they're used correctly. The point of prison is to protect the community from and punish criminals. One reason prisons don't work as well today is because of all the luxuries we give them. If there is no punishment, lawbreakers will go right back to breaking the law when they exit the joint. However, it is important to help get the prisoners on the right track and show them why its wrong to break the law.
So - if prisons are truly effective ate "solving the problem", why does society have a stigma about EX-convicts. Nobody treats them as though they are reformed. The system FAILS when it is unwilling to reexamine itself and deliberately put forth determined effort into dis-covering WHY these problems come to exist in the first place. Prisons are about as effective as bandaging the victim of a bully, but never addressing the bully - replacing the bumper, but never fixing the brakes.
Does your babysitter know you're online? Have you ever been anywhere near a prison? Have you ever had someone you know go to prison and come out more fucked up than when they went in? It destroys people. It's horrific.
Know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
Prisons separate the criminals from society. Isolate the bad eggs. Its simple. Put a killer, rapist, arsonist, drug dealer in jail and the community is protected. As a law abiding community we don't owe the guilty anything more. Just my opinion. I also want everyone to to own a gun. Also self defense laws for NJ. Now thats how to thin out the jails. Save taxes too.
By all means, incarcerate violent criminals, but just a minute.... The US jails are full of young black and latino males, mostly for drug offences. Corporate crims, who steal billions walk free. The US jail system is a racially biased machine that furthers the regime of sick white racists. End of.
This is true. What does the prison system accomplish? Does it really help anyone? Or does it make people harder criminals? What about the violence you see on television in the prisons? How can this type of environment help anyone?
Accountability' is own every shoulder"!We as a people have become more and more divided.With drugs,and gangs "Our journey is wide"!I have had family members "who have been victims of the correction system ,and have heard other family members(who never visited)" refer to the facility as if it was some sort of vacation home.The system itself "should have a overhaul".
Dr. Davis is right on with her wisdom. Prison, Inc. needs to be dismantled & replaced with a reform system.
Like with any problem, the way to deal with crime is at the level of cause, not effect. Our jails are full of innocent people, with over 800,000 arrested for hemp, a plant, last year. The peace pipe is criminal.
The trick is to shift from a fear to a love based society. We must transform from lack based on a bank issued currency system to abundance from a federal greenback system.
Now is the time - prison reform is one of the most overlooked issues of our time. Thank you for posting this. Will be posting a video response soon...let's see more thoughts on prison reform!
I'm not a big fan of how prisons are run, but abolish prisons? Wow. Where does this woman live? If she is willing to rear children in a neighborhood of violent criminals and rapists then i'd be willing to listen to her words. Otherwise she's just stirring up racial tension.
Did you miss around 4:41 where she says "black people especially" in reference to no longer holding them behind bars? I agree we need better health care and better schools, but if she wants to improve lives for black people (more concern that for white people obviously) then she should be working with gangsters daily rather than writing books. College is free to those who cannot afford it. Grade school is free, yet many to not attend; they drop out. Poor decisions lead to prison.
yourmoment, I could have sworn Angela Davis was a Pro-Black ex-Black Panther. Instead of questioning her loyalty to her people, you should be asking yourself "How come my people arent as brave and passionate as Black people like Angela Davis" You lazy hypocritical devils are ALWAYS leeching off of black heroes. Our heroes sacrifice their lives for their people and you question "where's mine?" Go to hell you arrogant bastard. Black Power. Free Mumia, Mutulu Now!
She is a assessing that these "violent criminals" that you speak of are products of their environment. So instead of a weak, racist and flawed attempt at rehabilitation, The communities in which these "criminals" come from must be reformed. Unfortunately we do not have the UNITY and education to do this. I would say that we dont have the money, but between these rappers, actors and athletes the black community to should be much more prosperous. Sorry you didnt get it.
Rome: White Supremecy. Ultimately this racist oppression is being dictated by devils within the catholic religion, the vatican and all of its collusive associates.
Angela Davis was right - legit - correct 40 yrs ago, and she is still so today.
JohnPMackDaddy 2 months ago
she's a fucking freak.
TheNewMusicNetwork 2 months ago
90% of crimes are commited because of money. So this monatary system can't be right
paniatka 3 months ago
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paniatka 3 months ago
QUESTION? Who is benefiting from the 'Jim Crow' slavery???
Levicobx 6 months ago
prison in the euro/american paradigm exists to enslave and oppress the growth of non whites.. to destroy the non white family structure and disempower those peoples in order to keep them in a position of perptetual servitude and suffering..period!
podzillart 9 months ago
@podzillart,
So there's a white family structure vs. nonwhite family structure? You're racist and should be forced to attend sensitivity and diversity training. There's a black president so you're just a lazy scumbag unfit even for lab tests. Since you think there's a white family structure verses a nonwhite family structure, you must also be a brutal racist. It's racist to oppose wife beating and dog torturing now I guess.
TheFlanker35 9 months ago
@TheFlanker35 I read podzillart's post and i didnt get what you got from it (obviously) my translation: Prison is set up to target non whites THUS destroying the family structure of non whites which otherwise would be the same as whites. This is not saying that the family structure is different to begin with. I THINK he is saying that this is one of the causes of the breakdown of these families. I didnt read any racism (maybe I read the wrong post) :-)
eb7348 8 months ago
@eb7348,
When you put it that way, it doesn't sound racist and I could have misread it. I thought he was talking about a lot of the family structures in Africa where a child is called a different name by everyone in his neighborhood so he has twenty names or so.
TheFlanker35 7 months ago
angela for president!
pgreenlief 10 months ago
an old way of thinking. In the current times with much of the population we are growing up in a time of accepted multiculturalism. The notion of relating the world to a global south and relating everything to the black struggle, could potentially make people become close minded and not want to listen to Angela Davis' very strong, powerful and true message. The fact is that the PIC takes advantage of all races from the lower socioeconomic people...not just blacks and not just hispanics.
pinksuspenders 10 months ago
race has play a major part in prison reform and civil rights. see the new Florida change in civil rights restoration of the convicted. the majority of convicted felons are black men
fccjbiology 10 months ago
until you live in a given perspective and experience its hard to separate that from the bigger reality. take for instance, most of the people in florida prison are black, who will lose their civil rights which used to be restored automatically. However, that's no longer the case as of march 2011. the struggle is forever that more eluding them. I am from Florida but now live in Canada. these sort of systematic state practice will forever hold down a people based on races.
fccjbiology 10 months ago
I agree with majority of angela davis' theories; however, she is a women of the civil rights movement and of the black power movement and because of those two factors I feel that she sees the world in colors and races. I do not fault her for this because this is the way she was raised and what she lived. However, I feel as though her theory would be better stated by replacing any notion of race with a notion of low socioeconomic south. I feel as relating everything to the black struggle is such
pinksuspenders 10 months ago
I wish Angela Davies would run for president...
laxyleslu 10 months ago
Prison is a business PERIOD!
talon115 1 year ago
I DEEPLY..don't care about color or colors...I hate , JUST HATE ....stupidity & corruption...it's the main gun - destroyer inside of ANY country....
sam0xin 1 year ago
she and 50 cent have the same mouth.
zhenio 1 year ago
LOVE LOVE LOVE ANGELA DAViS...SHE iZ TRULY A SHE-RO 4 BLACK WOMEN LiKE MYSELF.....A TRUE LEGEND iN HER WN RiGHT.....THANK U SiSTA ELDER ANGELA DAViS
MZDECATL 1 year ago
I honestly feel that if they legalize marijuana (which they won't) then a lot of blacks will not be in the prisons...weed has never caused anyone to kill anyone as far as I know...but here in Chicago alone..there are drunk police officers who drink & drive and kill innocent people, but they get probation and they stay at home...and they still get to keep their jobs doing 'desk duty'...sickening. Not all people in the prison system are guilty.
shydmples 1 year ago
Am I too white or "trying to be black" by agreeing with this ?
DEFnITDayz 1 year ago
@DEFnITDayz no fool lol jk but no
mjjcng8958 1 year ago
So true Angela Davis, so true!
JamesJunger 1 year ago
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this woman is proof that any idiot can attain a college degree.
thebeautifulman69 1 year ago
what makes me upset is that some white people act like they are saints. they say well the majority of black people are in jails but never open their mouths to mention their own people who are in jail, killing their wives babies selling dope rapping their women.but you have the nerve to blame all the problems of this country on the black man, never recognizing the contributions he has brought to this country.
mjjcng8958 1 year ago
@mjjcng8958 Then perhaps, you should earn one. You may
be promoted to idiot.
Flewti2 1 year ago
@Flewti2 what the hell are you talking about?
mjjcng8958 1 year ago
@Flewti2 you sent your message to the wrong person
mjjcng8958 1 year ago
@thelostism the new black panther party is trash. you have been fooled into believing that the real and honest party was racist. these young kids where doing things for their community that the goverment would not do. the media and the government never told you why they were such a threat when it was lawful for a man in california to bare arms. the fbi and the police terrorized the bpp b/c they were afiard of the conscience blacks
mjjcng8958 1 year ago
@thelostism
Excuse me, sir. You do realize that the New Blcak Panther Party and the Black Panther Party are two different entities? One has the word "New" in its name; the other does not.
The members of the original Black Panther Party have publicly denounced the racist idiots composing the New Black Panther Party. The Black Panthers (original) were not about racism.
"Why would we fight against racism with more racism?" ~ Huey P. Newton
Take your paranoid white fear elsewhere.
bapyou 1 year ago
@thelostism
"Black panthers are a racist extremist group"
Anyone who calls the Black Panthers racist or extremist do not know the Black Panthers. In fact, the society wich gave birth to the Black Panthers is racist and extremist. Get your facts straight.
Like all right-wingers, you have no facts. What you have is stupidity & moronity & more stupidity & more moronity. It never ends with morons. George Bush was your chief moron; the best you had to offer: moronity, stupidity, idiocy.
bapyou 1 year ago
@bapyou right on!! people where and still are brainwashed by the media. the media nad the givernment perpretrated those lies to destroy the foward movement of black poor whites and na. they never talked about the good they were doing.. the fbi picked off the black leaders one by one with no regard to the lives they where taking. you are so right.
mjjcng8958 1 year ago
@mjjcng8958
Yes. The Panthers were about revolution, and a Marxist revolution at that. This is why they were targeted by the FBI. J. Edgar Hoover -- the head of the FBI -- got his start killing, harassing and jailing American communists. (J. Edgar Hoover was also a closeted homosexual who harrassed other homosexuals.)
You are free to say what you want in America, as long as what you say does not upset the powers in charge. If you pose a serious threat to them, they will come after you.
bapyou 1 year ago
It's allways great to see, hear or read from Angela Davis. She is one of the most adorable political and feminist women worldwide. Before anyone talks bullshit about her... read her books first and listen the her documented speeches!
LesMarvelous 1 year ago
This woman has a mental illness.
Castaril 1 year ago
I miss her 'fro it was off the chain
DONDIVA1969 1 year ago
Davis was a member of the Communist Party USA.
Tell me how many Chinese or Russian prisons have been closed.
AcePilot101 1 year ago
@AcePilot101 "Davis was a member of the Communist Party USA. Tell me how many Chinese or Russian prisons have been closed."
Davis is neither Chinese nor Russian. And, in case you haven't heard, Russia is officially no longer communist; it's become a capitalist cesspool in which -- exactly like the U.S. -- a few elites hold a majority of the wealth while the remainder flounder earning a living.
Angela Davis is an American. She has no sway in any country but her own.
bapyou 1 year ago
When she got out of prison in CA, the car carrying her drove right past me and my boyfriend. I was so glad she got out and has done so much instead of rotting in prison. She was one of my early heros.
mishanti2 1 year ago
That goes to show any person of color can not expect justice on stolen land.
boots13100 1 year ago
Keeping it real. Read "The New Jim Crow."
49prgordon 1 year ago
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@thelostism You prove your ignorance by your own words my son......
MrMilktheFloFlinga 1 year ago
Hmmmm... this is a great mind??? Yikes. I think not.
surffdog55 1 year ago
i am a criminal justice graduate and this women is absolutely right.
adolescent900 1 year ago 10
@adolescent900 "this woman" is Dr Angela Davis, former Black Panther and full time American Hero.
MrMilktheFloFlinga 1 year ago
american hero? are you drunk?
hint0122 1 year ago
When are blacks going to take responsibilty for their own actions?"Don't do the crime if you can't do the time"...t.v. show baretta circa ealy 1970's!!
cobraman96 1 year ago
When you take responsibility for slavery. When you take responsibility for polluting indigenous people's lands in south america for Oil production, when you take responsibility for Prison Industrial Complex, Military Industrial Complex, when you take responsibility for your diet and how it impacts others. When you quit choosing ignorance. Whites also have yet to take real responsibility for the Native American holocaust. "Don't do the crime if you can't pay the legistlator to write the law."
HoochieKoochie 1 year ago 3
I say we put them in her house! I bet she don't have a criminals in her neighborhood?If people act like animals you put them in a cage.
cobraman96 1 year ago
Prisons overall, have never claimed to rehabilitate. Prisons are to punish- get revenge.
It's that simple. And that is also the tragedy.
divawriter 2 years ago
you know not what you speak about, there have and are programs that are directly meant to reform/rehab
chrisgellroy 1 year ago
I wish she were more visible, vocal.
Nenendude 2 years ago
I wonder what she thinks about the ufo disclosure issue and the reason we're all in prisons. Some with bars and most of us without? Check out the Camelot Project's youtube videos. I love Angela Davis.
eskimosali 2 years ago
Angela Davis is one of the greatest women alive. Thanks for this video. :-)
youngsoulrebel81 2 years ago
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She is absolutely insane!!!!! Yeah lets just have all the criminals running in the streets.
xxdiogenescynicxx 2 years ago
the state itself is the greatest criminal.
but you're fine with badged uniformed thugs walking the streets with guns and tazers.
bjarczyk 2 years ago 2
The point is is that it is a pipe dream. You have to have institutions for the criminally insane.
xxdiogenescynicxx 2 years ago
That's because you're an authoritarian and can't even consider radical alternatives. Sadly you probably believe in the rest of the corrupt institutions in this society.
Watch some of her entire speeches. Prison abolition originally was a legitimate conversation right when they were formed.
How are people criminally insane? What causes that in the first place?
bjarczyk 2 years ago 2
So in other words a serial murderer or rapist should be allowed to roam free in your utopian anarchist fantasy?
xxdiogenescynicxx 2 years ago
You should pick up some of Angela Davis' books on this topic because you are missing her arguments.
Shes not just talking about abolishing prisons but BUILDING new institutions, because throwing someone in a cage doesn't solve the issue. She argues that we should be going to the root of the problem and dealing with the actual issues.
In other words no. Read the book called instead of prisons by the critical resistance collective.
bjarczyk 2 years ago
You gotta love the libtards...eh? lol
cobraman96 1 year ago
If you understand what encourages criminal activity then you can understand her position. No ones defending rapist, murders and child molesters, 70% of the people who are in jail, committed non
violent acts, since the war on drugs more minorities have been the target of prosecution, although 85% of drug
consumption is done by whites, this is disproportionate, the only thing different from a white drug dealer and a black drug dealer, is that the black drug dealer is more likely to go to jail!
drbinc1 2 years ago 33
Here we go w/the woe is me crap...Don't sell drugs and you won't have to worry about going to jail! Its not that hard ...really!
cobraman96 1 year ago
Define "drugs", not everyone goes to jail for selling drugs, for example Zamicet is a narcotic that is marketed to children. Not even hardened street dealers sell to kids. Marijuanna doesn't cause increased risk of heart attack but Naproxen (Alleve), Vioxx, Celebrex, and Bextra do. Do you trust these drugs just because a large industry is behind them? Isn't it interesting that white people decide which drugs get to be legal and which don't? I guess it's not as simple as "don't sell drugs."
HoochieKoochie 1 year ago
Did ya pull those numbers out of your ass?
cobraman96 1 year ago
any obsession with politics is in vain its all bull,and if u truly comprehended the nature of american politics you'd be cognizant of how all western politics are symbiotic - hence the justification for my interest.with that said,my interest in this vid has less to do with politics than to do with the plight of my black people in the midst of an inherently racist and hypocritical institution.on a final note,all that rhetoric on socialism & hand outs was irrelevant and just plain dumb cobra
groovylazy 1 year ago
@drbinc1 your statistics are wrong
AnarchistActivist 1 year ago
@drbinc1 TRUER WORDS WERE NEVER SPOKEN MOST SO-CALLED CRIMINALS ARE THERE FOR PPL WHO HAD DRUGS ON THEM
dal4018 1 year ago
Is this the same Angela Davis that was a domestic terrorist in the 60s?
cbstout12345 2 years ago
yep. she should be in jail, not teaching or speaking. i wouldnt pay a penny to hear her speak unless I got to call her a socialist pig to her face
hint0122 2 years ago
Prolly so,And most likely a black panther.....lol Kinda like hussein obamas buddy.
cobraman96 1 year ago
Tell me, how likely am I to get robbed, intimidated or manhandled in a black neighborhood. Now tell me the same would be just as likely when you walk around in a white neighborhood (not counting a white trash filled trailer park).
blaaskaak666 2 years ago
It depends on the socio-economic status of the area. Crime is a function of poverty not race.
Enobarbartone 2 years ago
You forget to mention culture and (lack of) parenting.
blaaskaak666 2 years ago
You say: "not counting a white-trash filled trailer park". Why not? Doesn't that support my point -- that crime is more a function of education and socio-economic status rather than race?
Enobarbartone 2 years ago
Because the ratio white trash to normal whites is way lower than the ratio niggers to normal black people.
It's like you're saying group A doesn't perform action A because they are from group A, because there are some people from group B that perform action A too.
You see the logical fallacy? You don't take proportion into account AT ALL.
blaaskaak666 2 years ago
Who's being racist now? I've lived in this neighborhood for 20 years now and it got black a few years after I started living there.
Also, when a bunch of thugs are being assholes or destroy property other than their own, I have any right not to "mind my own business".
People like you sicken me. Always trivializing and justifying the wrongdoings of those that happen to share their clour of skin.
Also, a crime's a crime, even if you don't get caught.
blaaskaak666 2 years ago
"Dr." Davis is not making anywhere near a valid argument as to why prisons are "obsolete." Just because people are making money from running prisons or people of color are locked up is not an argument for obsolescence. Dr. Davis has always had street cred from the 60s and 70s but has never been a responsible academic. When Richard Pryor made the movie Stir Crazy, it was filmed in a penitentiary and after the movie he said,"Thank God we go penitentiaries." I agree with him.
vrlaphia 2 years ago
The valid argument is that prisons don't work. They don't rehabilitate, they don't deter; and make those who go to them worse criminals.
Enobarbartone 2 years ago
You seem to be buying into the idea that rehabilitation and deterrence are the only goals of prisons. Prisons are there to segregate predatory people who can't function in society from the rest of us who can. Don't kid yourself, the fact that you can live in a society where murders and rapist can be locked up is, despite the rants of Ms. Davis, a good thing regardless of the perpetrators race.
vrlaphia 2 years ago
There are four reasons to lock people up - rehabilitation, deterrence, retribution, and "separation". The authorities claim prisons are there to reform and rehabilitate. But in these respects they don't work. The separation idea would only work if all who went to prison couldn't function in society, and they were never released. But many in prison can function in society. Prisons cannot be done away with overnight, and I don't say there is a simple solution to the problem of crime.
Enobarbartone 2 years ago
There may always be a need for the truly incorrigible being somehow separated, but that does not necessitate the traditional prison system.
I believe most crime might be eradicated by the eradication of poverty and the certainty of detection. Of course these are probably unattainable goals, but more attention given to the causes of crime rather than to retribution after the event may help. My position is not necessarily identical to Dr Davis's, btw. I believe some of her points are valid.
Enobarbartone 2 years ago
Criminals aren't the victims and must be punished to keep the rational human beings who lack an overly strong sense of morality from committing crimes.
Prison sentence works as a deterrent. It's just that there are some people who value their and others' freedom so low they risk the possibility of getting imprisoned for short-term personal gain.
blaaskaak666 2 years ago
there is criminal activity, that is what is against the law and then there are "heinous acts" which are also against the law but more dire than other criminality. "criminals" become victims of the system u highly regard when a young drug dealer gets less time than a rapist or murderer etc. there is an unfair disparity in the way they are sentenced hence the victimization of "criminals''
groovylazy 2 years ago
That a smaller proportion of whites are socio-economically and educationally disadvantaged is true. I don't see how that destroys my argument.
Enobarbartone 2 years ago
so what should happen, let people roam free?
hint0122 2 years ago
Dr (and she has a genuine PhD and is academically very competent) Davis is not saying for a moment that prisons are obsolete because people are making money from them or because people of colour are locked up. That is grossly misrepresenting her. She says they don't work at eradicating or reducing crime. She is correct. The problem is that her solution would take decades to implement and is probably over-idealistic.
Enobarbartone 2 years ago
Prison sentence isn't just for preventing crime or curing criminals. It's also for retribution for crimes committed against society. It's a way of determining right and wrong and a way to keep people from exacting justice upon wrongdoers by themselves. This is a condition for a stable civilization. Forsake this concept and you get barbarism, chaos and anarchy.
Society can't function without a government punishing those that would disturb the order it needs to survive.
blaaskaak666 2 years ago
you r brainwashed in my opinion and the notion of prisons curing criminals is ridiculous especially when many if not most "criminal" acts,(ur drug dealing,smuggling,gang violence) are usually symptomatic of socio-economic issues.the true chaos is when corporations are molding your definition of right and wrong,ultimately siding the public with their ideals but in truth theyre hypocrites selling u nicotine,tar n liquor while a 1rst time 18 yr old crack offender gets up to 20 yrs in prison
groovylazy 2 years ago
Haha, no, I'm not brainwashed. I came up with those conclusions myself, as I can think for myself.
I don't care what socio-economic conditions someone lives in, if they do a crime they should be punished and separated from society, simple as that.
Angela Davis is a conspiracy theory nutjob, just like you, thinking the white man and the big corporations want to keep the black man down.
blaaskaak666 2 years ago
oh boi..look something that is "theoretical" is analogous to a feasible "if" or "maybe" but nothing can b attributed 2 the former nor the latter in this case because corporations do sell citizens scientifically proven detrimental n potentially fatal products and go unpunished (taxes) while crack dealers caught with a few grams get up to 20 yrs there4 fueling the dependency of prisons on corporations 4 their products.theres nothing remotely fictitious about that hence ur "theorist" claims r moot
groovylazy 2 years ago
and no you did not come up with those conclusions yourself. i hear the government reiterating the same garbage constantly..u keep thinking they care about you or any1 else other than themselves ull never conceive the big picture that way..but u are brainwashed so u probably arent aware that there is one 2 begin with
groovylazy 2 years ago
Ok,Don't sell crack!! Its not that hard to figure out.........Really!
cobraman96 1 year ago
Suggested reading: The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander. It's not that hard to figure out. REALLY!!!
FedUpSista 1 year ago
Im suggesting you stop the hatred and get a life!
cobraman96 1 year ago
blaaskaak666 -- yeah u can think all day that all people shd be punished equally based on offenses. The point of argument is the reality of the matter is that they are not at all ! That is just the fact. In TX dozens of men have recently been freed after decades in prisons for false sexual assault convictions-most were black.
shieldsff 2 years ago 2
@shieldsff Thank you Shieldsff. It's the same way in every state. When you see the ones who have been exonerated they are always mostly all black.
FASS52 1 year ago
Don't get me wrong, everything she says is true, cause the prison-industrial complex is just that: an intricate system from which to get cheap labor. But, if one wants to avoid being part of that, one must avoid committing crimes...PEACE.
BigBlackRod 2 years ago
Sometimes, folks can be too smart for they own fucking good...PEACE.
BigBlackRod 2 years ago
she should invite all the gangbangers and rapists into her house
hint0122 2 years ago
Don't forget the meth lab people who leave their kids inside when it blows up, also Susan Smith
FASS52 2 years ago
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cobraman96 1 year ago
So she's saying we should let criminals run free? And the prison system is racist because black people rape and kill more than white people do?
blaaskaak666 2 years ago
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meximeli7 2 years ago
I swear, I can usually tll the age of someone who makes a comment like yours. I underguessed you by 2 years.
mumbleora 2 years ago
how can black people committ more crime when there are more white people in the US. The law has been and will always b 1 sided AGAINST people of color. Everyone committs crime but te jails r full to compasity with people of color
laren138 2 years ago
I'm talking percentages, you mentally challenged twat. I'm going to assume that you're black and that you have a victim complex so I won't bother explaining in detail since that probably won't have any effect.
blaaskaak666 2 years ago
yes I'm BLACK and I've been sent to jail for a crime I DID NOT committ. Not only are alot of laws framed to hurt people of color they are framed to keep people of color law ignorant and inpoverished.
laren138 2 years ago
Quote them and point out what's wrong with them.
blaaskaak666 2 years ago
in orlando florida the police r being rewarded 4 making arrest, don't u think they will target people of color and poor neighborhoods? u should b smart enuf 2 know cops don't target white neighborhoods 4 people 2 arrest although many many crimes r committed in those neighborhoods(child abuse, spouse abuse, in home drug abues and dealing) crime is everywhere not only in black neighborhoods
laren138 2 years ago
You still only have pointed your finger at others, playing the role of victim.
If you don't like it, please take action. Form/join a pressure group to set things right. Also, black neighbourhoods GENERALLY have MORE CRIME so they send MORE OFFICERS there. Seems perfectly logical to me.
Now please quote/link to those laws you were talking about and don't try to change the subject.
blaaskaak666 2 years ago
If you look more in one area you'll find more there. Of course you're not a calculous expert, and I just even showed you how to spell it.
FASS52 2 years ago
Hey blackass666
How many crimes have you committed but never got caught for lack of police patrol in your area? This is what the issue is and not that lame statistic thing you're trying to use. Let's patrol your Hood and do the Big Brother thing on you. Of course you get the point. You just think we don't.
FASS52 2 years ago
The natural fact is that all races commit crimes at the same rate. It's a natural known fact that police patrol neighborhoods more where people of color live. That's why you all can operate your meth labs in peace for long periods of time. That's why it's easier to abduct and kidnap a white child even out of his/her own bed while parents sleep. Looks like you're the victim here, but you're too racist to see that. You look good.
FASS52 2 years ago
Nope. In the Netherlands, people from the Netherlands Antilles and Marroco commit way more crime that westerners.
Also, I don't do crime, but I live in a "black" neighbourhood and it's a real problem area. When I visit some of my friends in a "white" neighboorhood, all's peaceful and you don't have to be afraid of getting beat up for confronting some hooligans with their actions (there aren't any).
blaaskaak666 2 years ago
Nobody does crime if they don't get caught. You got beat up because you need to mind your own business
what are you doing living in a Black neighborhood anyway
FASS52 2 years ago
So by your logic i could ask a black man what he was doing in a "white neighborhood"?Maybe he should on the "black side of town"?
cobraman96 1 year ago
like the law about drugs?
hint0122 2 years ago
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I guess if I killed a judge I wouldnt want prisons to exist either.
Philly6457 2 years ago
Yeah, well , killing a judge isn't something you need to be ashamed of.
Neweddy24 2 years ago
lets see: corporations promote the prison system in order to sell soap. that claim undercuts the seriousness of the argument. cant even conceive of prisons as a response to crime? too simple i suppose
kenredwings8 2 years ago
I agree Angela. Every prisoner costs a certain amount of money, and people like John McCain and Dick Cheney are the leaches who are earning profits from these prisoners.
Just like during the holocaust. Each Jewish person in those concentration camps were priced at a certain amount of money and certain people were profiting from those prisoners as well. The way these people are profiting from the prison system is no different than the way they profited from the concentration camps during WW2.
kaiser0soze 2 years ago 3
what the hell are you talking about>
hint0122 2 years ago
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This woman is very foolish. She was wrong from the very get go. Prisons have and do work if they're used correctly. The point of prison is to protect the community from and punish criminals. One reason prisons don't work as well today is because of all the luxuries we give them. If there is no punishment, lawbreakers will go right back to breaking the law when they exit the joint. However, it is important to help get the prisoners on the right track and show them why its wrong to break the law.
redwings02 2 years ago
So - if prisons are truly effective ate "solving the problem", why does society have a stigma about EX-convicts. Nobody treats them as though they are reformed. The system FAILS when it is unwilling to reexamine itself and deliberately put forth determined effort into dis-covering WHY these problems come to exist in the first place. Prisons are about as effective as bandaging the victim of a bully, but never addressing the bully - replacing the bumper, but never fixing the brakes.
etyrnal 2 years ago 2
No punishment?
Does your babysitter know you're online? Have you ever been anywhere near a prison? Have you ever had someone you know go to prison and come out more fucked up than when they went in? It destroys people. It's horrific.
Know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
Neweddy24 2 years ago 2
it is not supposed to cuddle the rapists, murderers and thugs
hint0122 2 years ago
Prisons separate the criminals from society. Isolate the bad eggs. Its simple. Put a killer, rapist, arsonist, drug dealer in jail and the community is protected. As a law abiding community we don't owe the guilty anything more. Just my opinion. I also want everyone to to own a gun. Also self defense laws for NJ. Now thats how to thin out the jails. Save taxes too.
FastFusion2008 3 years ago
By all means, incarcerate violent criminals, but just a minute.... The US jails are full of young black and latino males, mostly for drug offences. Corporate crims, who steal billions walk free. The US jail system is a racially biased machine that furthers the regime of sick white racists. End of.
landsker 2 years ago 12
amen right on the money
steve89z 2 years ago
I agree with you100%, landsker.
Minordd3 2 years ago
For some reason Columbine comes to mind when I read this.
bassedge55 2 years ago
why????
himdownstairsutube 2 years ago
@FastFusion2008 Well keep your guns locked up so that your kids don't get them then go and shoot up everybody in his school.
FASS52 1 year ago
Man thats deep. Angela has always brought the knowledge.
bassedge55 3 years ago
This is true. What does the prison system accomplish? Does it really help anyone? Or does it make people harder criminals? What about the violence you see on television in the prisons? How can this type of environment help anyone?
Yellowboyzjetset 3 years ago
Accountability' is own every shoulder"!We as a people have become more and more divided.With drugs,and gangs "Our journey is wide"!I have had family members "who have been victims of the correction system ,and have heard other family members(who never visited)" refer to the facility as if it was some sort of vacation home.The system itself "should have a overhaul".
2blakandbold 3 years ago
Dr. Davis is right on with her wisdom. Prison, Inc. needs to be dismantled & replaced with a reform system.
Like with any problem, the way to deal with crime is at the level of cause, not effect. Our jails are full of innocent people, with over 800,000 arrested for hemp, a plant, last year. The peace pipe is criminal.
The trick is to shift from a fear to a love based society. We must transform from lack based on a bank issued currency system to abundance from a federal greenback system.
cureworks 3 years ago
The system cannot be reform unless the institution that brought this thing into existence is dismantled.
brg5 2 years ago
fine, let the rapists, and murderers live with you
hint0122 2 years ago
Now is the time - prison reform is one of the most overlooked issues of our time. Thank you for posting this. Will be posting a video response soon...let's see more thoughts on prison reform!
phillyphife 3 years ago 3
I'm not a big fan of how prisons are run, but abolish prisons? Wow. Where does this woman live? If she is willing to rear children in a neighborhood of violent criminals and rapists then i'd be willing to listen to her words. Otherwise she's just stirring up racial tension.
yourmoment 3 years ago
Racial tension?
YOELTHEKING 3 years ago
Did you miss around 4:41 where she says "black people especially" in reference to no longer holding them behind bars? I agree we need better health care and better schools, but if she wants to improve lives for black people (more concern that for white people obviously) then she should be working with gangsters daily rather than writing books. College is free to those who cannot afford it. Grade school is free, yet many to not attend; they drop out. Poor decisions lead to prison.
yourmoment 3 years ago
yourmoment, I could have sworn Angela Davis was a Pro-Black ex-Black Panther. Instead of questioning her loyalty to her people, you should be asking yourself "How come my people arent as brave and passionate as Black people like Angela Davis" You lazy hypocritical devils are ALWAYS leeching off of black heroes. Our heroes sacrifice their lives for their people and you question "where's mine?" Go to hell you arrogant bastard. Black Power. Free Mumia, Mutulu Now!
keilyngodson26 3 years ago
No poor conditions lead to prison. Black folks are disproportionally in jail and I think that's what her point was.
YOELTHEKING 3 years ago
Not only Blacks, but people of color in general.
brg5 2 years ago 2
She is a assessing that these "violent criminals" that you speak of are products of their environment. So instead of a weak, racist and flawed attempt at rehabilitation, The communities in which these "criminals" come from must be reformed. Unfortunately we do not have the UNITY and education to do this. I would say that we dont have the money, but between these rappers, actors and athletes the black community to should be much more prosperous. Sorry you didnt get it.
keilyngodson26 3 years ago
Rome must fall
keilyngodson26 3 years ago
Could you be specific by what you mean "Rome must fall."
yourmoment 3 years ago
Rome: White Supremecy. Ultimately this racist oppression is being dictated by devils within the catholic religion, the vatican and all of its collusive associates.
keilyngodson26 3 years ago
She's coming to my school. St. Cloud State University in March!!!!! I can't wait.
ernestshelley 3 years ago
Take full advantage of it! She came to my school years ago and she was amazing. I even got to shake her hand :)
grlblu73 3 years ago
awesome vid!
AlakiaQueeone 3 years ago