Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
I saw her recite this at the Edinburgh festival in 2009 . Her recital was more communicative and haunting with an audience. With 100's of us in a huge tent, a few lines into the reading of this poem, there was a low flying fly past by several military jets which shook the tent, seats and all of us so much we thought the tent would collapse. The warmongers show of strength. To end, her friend played the last post on his bugle and we, the audience sat, slumped in our seats, the sadness palpable.
Lovely! One would normally think only football would occasion such passionate exchange of insults of all sorts. Glad to see poetry is just as good as football is - at least once in a while.
But I'd rather have people show more respect to a fellow human being.
I am not a great fan of her work but I do believe she is the best of a bad bunch,my opinion of course, who write's mainly popular in the box themes .I have only enjoyed a handful of her poems.Though she does not do herself justice when reading her work, I still respect her confidence to do so.
When his work and themes have matured I do think Luke Wright will do poetry a good service and I Am hoping Elise Stewart's work will keep growing,
@eratoray I assure you, there is most definately such a thing as a bad poem. How can you tell what's good and what's bad poetry? Something called Comparative Literature.
@Findiglay Comparative Literature deals with the comparison of literature of two or more different linguistic, cultural or national groups. It may also be performed on works of the same language, if the works originate from different nations or cultures among which that language is spoken. It does not, however, determine whether a poem is good or bad. It is a matter of taste.
@eratoray Please don't copy & paste from a Wiki page and pretend you know something.
It is a matter of judgement, not merely taste. Good judgement can only come from a cultivated appreciation of the art.
LOOK at one poem. LOOK at another (preferably of similar style). Compare them. Which communicates best? Which is most eloquent, most perceptive, most rigorously precise? Is there music in the language? Ask all these questions and decide.
@Findiglay So your idea of Comparative Literature differs from the true meaning. It is pointless discussing anything with someone who makes up their own rules.
How can anyone 'pretend to know something' when they have stated it? They must know it to be able to state it. I was going to say something in response to your catty comment about Wiki, but I can't be bothered.
@eratoray As Pound wrote - “Comparative literature” sometimes figures in university curricula, but very few people know what they mean
by the term, or approach it with a considered conscious method.
Of course, you can take the dictionary definition as you have, and pretend to know it, although it does not mean that you really understand the process or know anything about it, or that you even have the intelligence to paraphrase a textbook.
@Findiglay That is very interesting. I see you have adopted the bully stance, i.e. "when your argument lacks substance resort to personal insult." You are becoming quite tiresome, so I'll bow to your vast intellect and say goodbye. But before leaving, one last suggestion, go outside and mug a few more metaphor to add to your vast collection of cliche. That, by the way, is a personal insult.
I'm all for free speech, but I've not read such ignorant and ill-informed criticisms of a poem in years. "Scabbing off proper war poets who were there" - that's the whole POINT!! Ok, Duffy's not the best reader of her own work - few poets are. But the task of Poet Laureate isn't easy, and as recent "occasional poetry" goes, this is up there with the best.
@poet57 "I'm all for speech, but.." always seems to preface a contradiction doesn't it? A bit like "I don't wish to be rude, but..." or "I don't want to be funny, but...." and the classic, "I'm not racist, but..."
If you are pro free-speech just let these ill-informed people get on with it as most of it seems to be driven by spitefulness and they'll damn themselves from their own mouths.
The poem pays homage to Wilfred Owen and other anti-war poets. She assumes anyone reading it knows their work and understands her allusion to their work, as well as the fact that Wilfred Owen "nicked" the title from the ancient Roman poet, Horace.
The first lines are from Wilfred Owen's poem, Dulce et Decorum Est, as are some other lines in the poem. It's just scabbing off proper war poets who were actually there.
I'm the best poet ever
peasantchurl 4 months ago 2
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Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
lightandbeautiful 4 months ago
I saw her recite this at the Edinburgh festival in 2009 . Her recital was more communicative and haunting with an audience. With 100's of us in a huge tent, a few lines into the reading of this poem, there was a low flying fly past by several military jets which shook the tent, seats and all of us so much we thought the tent would collapse. The warmongers show of strength. To end, her friend played the last post on his bugle and we, the audience sat, slumped in our seats, the sadness palpable.
cotswoldquaker 11 months ago
Fucking Fantastic xxx
littlegirlbleuxx 1 year ago
@littlegirlbleuxx hahaha you need a life
MtlkBMX09 9 months ago 2
Lovely! One would normally think only football would occasion such passionate exchange of insults of all sorts. Glad to see poetry is just as good as football is - at least once in a while.
But I'd rather have people show more respect to a fellow human being.
And to poets - even more!
oYoYebutu 1 year ago
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feminist bitch I fucking hate her guts
view1210 1 year ago
feminist bitck i fucking hate her guts
view1210 1 year ago
@view1210 Uneducated wanker.
HannieeeAllStar 1 year ago
Carol Ann Duffy
Feminist Lesbian
alexandraBORK 1 year ago
I am not a great fan of her work but I do believe she is the best of a bad bunch,my opinion of course, who write's mainly popular in the box themes .I have only enjoyed a handful of her poems.Though she does not do herself justice when reading her work, I still respect her confidence to do so.
When his work and themes have matured I do think Luke Wright will do poetry a good service and I Am hoping Elise Stewart's work will keep growing,
Vincent777Legion1 1 year ago
@eratoray I assure you, there is most definately such a thing as a bad poem. How can you tell what's good and what's bad poetry? Something called Comparative Literature.
Findiglay 1 year ago
@Findiglay Comparative Literature deals with the comparison of literature of two or more different linguistic, cultural or national groups. It may also be performed on works of the same language, if the works originate from different nations or cultures among which that language is spoken. It does not, however, determine whether a poem is good or bad. It is a matter of taste.
eratoray 1 year ago
@eratoray Please don't copy & paste from a Wiki page and pretend you know something.
It is a matter of judgement, not merely taste. Good judgement can only come from a cultivated appreciation of the art.
LOOK at one poem. LOOK at another (preferably of similar style). Compare them. Which communicates best? Which is most eloquent, most perceptive, most rigorously precise? Is there music in the language? Ask all these questions and decide.
We call this 'Comparative Literature'.
Findiglay 1 year ago
@Findiglay So your idea of Comparative Literature differs from the true meaning. It is pointless discussing anything with someone who makes up their own rules.
How can anyone 'pretend to know something' when they have stated it? They must know it to be able to state it. I was going to say something in response to your catty comment about Wiki, but I can't be bothered.
eratoray 1 year ago
@eratoray As Pound wrote - “Comparative literature” sometimes figures in university curricula, but very few people know what they mean
by the term, or approach it with a considered conscious method.
Of course, you can take the dictionary definition as you have, and pretend to know it, although it does not mean that you really understand the process or know anything about it, or that you even have the intelligence to paraphrase a textbook.
Findiglay 1 year ago
@Findiglay That is very interesting. I see you have adopted the bully stance, i.e. "when your argument lacks substance resort to personal insult." You are becoming quite tiresome, so I'll bow to your vast intellect and say goodbye. But before leaving, one last suggestion, go outside and mug a few more metaphor to add to your vast collection of cliche. That, by the way, is a personal insult.
eratoray 1 year ago
@eratoray :)
oYoYebutu 1 year ago
Poetry: stevenparrisward
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arcanus121 1 year ago
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ArchieRoylance 1 year ago
I'm all for free speech, but I've not read such ignorant and ill-informed criticisms of a poem in years. "Scabbing off proper war poets who were there" - that's the whole POINT!! Ok, Duffy's not the best reader of her own work - few poets are. But the task of Poet Laureate isn't easy, and as recent "occasional poetry" goes, this is up there with the best.
poet57 1 year ago 7
@poet57 "I'm all for speech, but.." always seems to preface a contradiction doesn't it? A bit like "I don't wish to be rude, but..." or "I don't want to be funny, but...." and the classic, "I'm not racist, but..."
If you are pro free-speech just let these ill-informed people get on with it as most of it seems to be driven by spitefulness and they'll damn themselves from their own mouths.
coppersmiths 1 year ago
@ArchieRoylance nice one troll...
Sirmango101 1 year ago
i remember dulce est decorum est by Owen strong stuff
strawberrygirrl 1 year ago
Remix culture... lol
InverseResponse 1 year ago
The poem pays homage to Wilfred Owen and other anti-war poets. She assumes anyone reading it knows their work and understands her allusion to their work, as well as the fact that Wilfred Owen "nicked" the title from the ancient Roman poet, Horace.
klimakatso 1 year ago
She sounds drunk.
keukpa 1 year ago 7
The first lines are from Wilfred Owen's poem, Dulce et Decorum Est, as are some other lines in the poem. It's just scabbing off proper war poets who were actually there.
missbabyice 2 years ago
Just nick lines from other poets, why don't you?!
missbabyice 2 years ago
@missbabyice why dont you clarify your criticism?
DeepRedBlue 2 years ago