JFK Assassination Investigating History Kennedy Assassination Dealey Plaza 1963 Part 1of 5

[LiquorWreckedEmGood]

"Chief Curry, could you detail for us what led you to Oswald?"

*crickets* ... "not exactly".

Speaks VOLUMES.

[390bullitt1968]

The JFK murder is not my area of expertise and I am not an expert on it by any means. I did talk to one of the FBI agents who worked on the case in 1963-1964. He is 100% convinced LHO had nothing to so with the murder. His story is compelling. I believe him. These false flag operations happen. I am an expert on the details of the Holocaust. After 10 yrs of study I can say w/o a doubt not one human was gassed. There is zero forensic evidence to support it, ZERO.

That is the non PC truth.

[greymoose1000]

Massive conspiracy. I did not care for JFK, but Oswald did not either kill or even shoot at Kennedy. Anyone that believes otherwise is an idiot. Enough said!!!!

[grettoz]

@greymoose1000

your an idiot for believing he didnt?? he did, alone & unaided

[greymoose1000]

@grettoz You are an idiot since it obvious you cannot utilize the English Language correctly. You should have used you're or you are for your in beginning you sentence. If you would like for an educated man such as myself to take you seriously in the future, please be sure and address me properly with decent usage of the English Language. By the way, I am from Los Angeles and not from the South. You, therefore, better be prepared to deal with someone who values academia and truth dickhead!!!

[grettoz]

@greymoose1000

what a thick prick you are!!! this is short script replies idiot... english text dosent come into it, new to this are we??? twat

[greymoose1000]

@grettoz Once again you have made my case with another round of terrible English. You pricks love to talk about the influx of Mexicans and illegals and you my friend and your ilk cannot put together a complete sentence that is legible and beyond the fifth grade level.

[grettoz]

@greymoose1000

what a sad moron you are!! guess your a failed teacher, muppet

[greymoose1000]

@grettoz AS I recall, Adolph Hitler and the Nazi's were defeated in 1945. As a former soldier who served in the U.S. Military you are an afront to anyone who has served. The duty of a true soldier, and by the way this is what we are taught in the military, is to preserve peace at all costs, otherwise we face war. I am certain that you have never done one good thing in honor of your country other than to spew garbage on You Tube. Typical punk!!! You are one of the problems with our country today.

[greymoose1000]

@grettoz One other thing my delusional friend; we on the other side will continue to perpetuate the truth and the ongoing quest for additional truth that has been conveniently placed on the backburner from the American people for so long. This America we live in is an illusion from what is purported by the framers of the Constitution. What is amazing is this recent crap on talk radio by Hannity, Limbaugh, and Beck about the Constitution. The only constitution they understand is Fascist!!!!

[grettoz]

@greymoose1000

im not your friend for sure!! & you are the deluded one... at war with your sad low life self?? end of prick.

[greymoose1000]

@grettoz You are also not a friend of the United States. Fascist Germany was defeated in 1945. Go look it up!!!

[IwshIcldstrtover]

Notice, if you will, how they completely overlooked the evidence that proves there are not gunshots on the police dictabelt, and jump right into Don Thomas' absolute rubbish. The crosstalk discovered by Steve Barber of Ohio, then confirmed by a panel called the Committee on Ballistic Acoustics, which included 2 Nobel prize winning physicists, proves that the section the so called"shots" appear in was over a minute after the assassination.

[cdddraftsman]

@IwshIcldstrtover "Don Thomas' absolute rubbish"

* AAMOF on page one of his lurid overly deductive book on the acoustics evidence Thomas admits ....

"I am not a acoustics expert" .... Which implys what? If it wasn't for non-experts working for CONspiracy Apologists they wouldn't have any experts at all

* JFK's final words were cryptic .... "I need this motorcade like I need a hole in my head"

[TrueNovice]

@cdddraftsman The acoustic experts who actually did the work in 1978 continue to stand by their findings. And they are considered to be the best in their field, gunshot acoustics. They have even gone on to design acoustic devices, for the US Military, now used in Iraq that can locate sniper in real time within 3 feet.

[10Faenorr]

I got some questions !

Why did Mark Lane turn a puff of smoke into a sinister plot to overthrow the USG? Why did Jim Garrison not get psychological help for his mental problems? Why when Oswald died was it was planned that he be replaced with 200 different assassins that we have now? Why has 'The Criminal Research Community" not got 1 unified theory in 46 yrs? Why do CTer's use only weak evidence to keep this open & shut case alive?

[TheAmbassador11]

@10Faenorr The evidence against Oswald was weak and planted..

[cdddraftsman]

In real world criminal probes we can expect some of our evidence to be erroneous. Doc.'s record "facts" that turn out to be untrue. Witnesses say things that are wrong . But suppose you're not willing to write off documents and witnesses as mistaken, or things you just think you see in photo's?

What kind of theories does that lead to ? You get DOUBLE TROUBLE = 2 of everything! "Jack Ruby (2 persons)" 2 Ozzie's (Harvey & Lee) 2 Autopsy's (TMWKK) 2 Z-Film's (Zapruder's & CIA's) = 2 MUCH BULLSHIT

[petereuropa]

But I am not sure of that the shot that opened the President's skull came from the Grassy Knoll. Here on YT there is a video from Discvery _Networks that make it possible, that that fatal shot may have come from the TSBD. If Jack R. was one of the shooter, he also was an amateur.

[cdddraftsman]

@petereuropa AND YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT ! WATCHA DOING WRITING A CON SPIRACY BOOK OR MAKING A CHEAP VIDEO ? THE MEN WHO DIDN'T KILL CANNADY II ?

[petereuropa]

@cdddraftsman Do you have problem with your ears, hearing sounds? Listen to this video.

"There were 5 (five) shots!

LHO must have been a sensation with his Carcano. Come on, change your view.

There were at least 2 snipers from the TSBD. And I believe that LHO could have been involved in some way, but he was not made of the "right stuff" to shoot JFK. He had just not the right skill. I believe: also if he wanted to shoot JFK, he was not able to do it.

[cdddraftsman]

@Mobilecheese "lamp posts Elm St. have been moved & re-sited....Stemmons' Road Sign 'disappeared' the day after the assassination" MORE BULLSHIT FROM FETZTARD ! These are common public work alterations in request by citizens that lighting was bad at night & the signage indistinct to get on the frwy. Why not tell 'THEM' about silly ass CTer Groden thinking rain sensors installed were microphones ? Paranoid Asshole!

[blazed24sevn]

@cdddraftsman so if the government or president came on tv today and said 1+1+1 equals 5, are you going to repeat and believe that, when all evidence says otherwise and you know that it is really 3? Some people are just plain fuckin stupid.

[cdddraftsman]

@blazed24sevn "all evidence says otherwise" *LHO rents PO BOX (his writing) *LHO orders rifle/pistol(his writing) *LHO leaves $/wedding ring(home) *LHO leaves rifle TSBD(palm print) *LHO 2 witnesses(in TSBD shooting) *LHO fiber evidence (shirt/rifle) *LHO rifling = (CE-399) *LHO casings(snipers nest) *LHO shoots Tippit(8 witnesses) *LHO seen running (from scene) *LHO bullets link (Tippit/autopsy) *LHO pulls gun (on police in TT) *LHO lie's about MC (to police)

[TrueNovice]

@cdddraftsman If Oz was trying to infiltrate militant leftist groups, or working for Senator's Dodd's committee the importation of weapons, there is a reasonable explanation for his behavior. The case against Oswald would have worked better if he was shot dead instead of arrested, after which he denied the charges every chance he got.

[cdddraftsman]

@TrueNovice "The case against LHO would have worked better if he was shot dead instead of arrested after which he denied the charges"

ACTUALLY IT WOULD OF BEEN WORSE IF THE DPD DID IT They had 2 chances to kill him (Tippit stop & the TT arrest) but they didn't did they? So what does this imply? Police dept's don't normally have their own killed & it seems they made every effort to capture him alive for a trial & conviction. Which seems to be the opposite of what you're insinuating .... right?

[TrueNovice]

Buchanan believed Oz was setup to take the blame with Oz photo of him holding the rifle and Oz's repeated pro-communist and pro Castro activity, it would be very easy to imply a motive. But Buchanan's theory that Oswald shot and killed Officer Tippit after the cop pulled his gun, I don't think hold much water. The killer's prints were on Offcr Tippit's car and bumper but when found not to be Oswald, they lost interest in finding out who they actually belonged to or why they were there.

[TrueNovice]

@cdddraftsman Absolutely zero evidence that Tippit thought he was stopping a suspect. He didn't turn on his siren or contact the dispatcher prior to the stop. It appeared to Markham to seem to be a friendly encounter, until he was shot.

[cdddraftsman]

@TrueNovice "zero evidence that Tippit thought he was stopping a suspect"

Not surprising since JDT died is it? The most knowledgable person in the world on the JDT murder is Dale K. Myers his book 'With Malice' shows why witness testimony was confused on the direction Oz was walking. He was headed towards JDT's direction, when he saw the Police car he flinched, did a about face in the opposite direction. This would of been enough to attract JDT's attention enough to pull over & talk w/Oz period

[TrueNovice]

@cdddraftsman It was believed by author Buchanan that Officer Tippit was assigned to kill Oswald but Oswald simply was a faster draw. Or as Paine said "he was not supposed to have a gun." But the case against Oswald in Tippits murder is an even bigger joke, the Tippit witnesses thought the cop killer had ducked into a nearby library. Lee was supposedly going to the movie several blocks away.

[ChristianHolloway7]

@cdddraftsman What about the other 5 shooters?

[cdddraftsman]

@ChristianHolloway7 "zero evidence" of "5 shooters"

If you have evidence to present go to the number one newgroup on the net

alt_assassination_ jfk

and present it.

[LiquorWreckedEmGood]

@cdddraftsman

according to whom? the FBI? the Warren Commission? when your chickens turn up missing, do you ask the fox what happened?

[cdddraftsman]

@Mobilecheese "DP today LOOKS the same as it was on 11/22/63 but is NOT the same!" You are such a bullshitter, any changes you mentioned wouldn't affect any changes in how your 'Red Romeo' Ozzie killed JFK. Why don't shit or get off the pot & just admit your embarrassed as all hell that a fellow left winger demised Camel WETF they called it & did it in 8.9 seconds of his 1Hr. lunch break?

[cdddraftsman]

@petereuropa "My opinion is" WTF gives a shit about your stewpid "opinions" based on being an ignoramus about the assassination ? You prance through here totally unknowledgable acting like your questions are the first time ever asked. These were answered back in the 1960's. Your agenda is clear though, leave a feastering wound open so you can post your 'Messages of Hate' .... STFU and Stand Down .

[petereuropa]

@cdddraftsman A tip. Try to replace your blinkers with an open mind. I'm tired to read your oneway opinions about LHO. LHO could not have done this alone, and you know that!

[cdddraftsman]

@petereuropa "LHO could not have done this alone, and you know that!"

Because he was a nobody thats why he got away it. Had he been in a little more limelight he might of been noticed and this might have been prevented. Because no one gave him much credit for being capable he was able to pull it off.

Live with it.

[petereuropa]

@cdddraftsman Ok, I admit that I am an amateur concerning this matter. But this is (= my opinion). Two snipers were hired to shoot at the TSBD. They told LHO to but boxes in front of the window. Jack Ruby (two persons) was at the Grassy Knoll. See: "ON TRIAL: LEE HARVEY OSWALD" (PART 20)(WITNESS: TOM TILSON) - and combine this witnes story with the analyzed photo of the Grassy Knoll.

[blazed24sevn]

@cdddraftsman also, you need to learn to spell you fuckin moron.... "stewpid"??? really? and your calling other people STUPID and cant even spell the word right??? wow, maybe you just need to shut the hell up now. You obviously dont know what the hell you are even talking about, just another dumbass that thinks they are right all the time, when in reality are wrong all the time.

[cdddraftsman]

@blazed24sevn "spell "stewpid"???" I didn't want to insult the word by applying it to posters at YT DUMBSHIT! Whatsa matta you most hillbillys like that spelling.



[cdddraftsman]

cdddraftsman @petereuropa "who says there was only 1 sniper at the LHO window? And who can be sure that there were snipers in only 1 window? The Hughs and Bronson films were analyised for the PBS : 'Who Was LHO' program and they concluded that the second figure near the snipers nest was grain noise on the film AND all other windows were accounted for GET W/THE PROGRAM !

[petereuropa]

My opinion is: it can be a conspiracy also if the shooting was only from the TSBD. And who says there was only ONE sniper at the LHO window? And who can be sure that there were snipers in only ONE window?

[Mobilecheese]

Sloppy is being too kind.

It's pure superficial facile crap! Anything to fill a few minutes of TV time with a so-called. 'in-depth' documentary.Hey! I just remembered! You called me an idiot, didn't you,ShutterBun2?

[ShutterBun2]

You've gotta love the fact that all of their discussion about the "Acoustic evidence" (including the transcript, and the segment they played) comes from the Channel TWO recording, when in fact, the "open mic" was on Channel ONE! HA! That's just plain sloppy reporting, at best.

[Mobilecheese]

"Time has not frozen" in Dealey Plaza if by that the commentator means nothing has changed. Much has changed! The layout of the Elm Street has changed. The lamp posts on Elm Street have been moved and re-sited. Elm Street itself is now about 10" higher. Parts of the grassy knoll have subsided. There has been much alteration. Any measurements taken today do not correspond to the measurements on 22nd November 1963. Dealey Plaza today LOOKS the same as it was on 22 Nov 1963 but is NOT the same!

[FGTFJT]

please let me know where you found. i want to know how much has changed.

[Mobilecheese]

Read Fetzer's book Death in Dealey Plaza - What we know now that we didn't know then. Read chapter by Jack White on the Zapruder film alteration.One change I did not mention was the Stemmons' Road Sign. It 'disappeared' the day after the assassination and was never seen again. The new road sign is in a totally different place.

[Obelisk2290]

boy they got the shot sequence all wrong