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  • its your heart and your feelings, ok, if you think that she can change is because of your personal experience based on your own strength that has been failed, God heals cancer and HIV? why can´t a powerful God change someone affections? she looks happy with her husband and children, one thing I know God exist.. if only you seek him he would manifest him self, you would fall in love with him, he feels this thing about you.. all of Us need Jesus, and need to be changed! LUv Ya :)

  • To quote Jim Jeffries, "Read a science book, watch a Richard Dawkins documentary you dumb fucking cunt." Doesnae mince his words, that man. And neither do I. Being in deep denial does not make you "straight" it makes you a contemptable, pathetic fuckin' moron that deserves to be beaten and ostricised from reasonable society. Seriously. You meet one of these cunts, kick them in the fucking face till the tendons in your foot snap. They further the ageanda of fascists.

  • Yah! On Christian human being was nice to you! Good for you!

  • as soon as you say that someone needs religion: one of the stupidest things ever made by MAN, u have proven to be incredibly stupid

  • I feel sad for her 'husband' and children.

  • So Elaine threatened to starve herself to death to blackmail her brother into straightness? Did I get that right?

  • PROOF THAT UR NOT BORN A FAG

  • She wants so badly to believe that she's now heterosexual.

  • This woman is sick... LITERALLY (wait till u read the entire post before bashing me, please)

    The world's most important organizations on terms of psychiatry and psychology agree on the fact that homosexuality IS NOT A DISEASE, IS NOT A CHOICE and CANNOT BE CHANGED...

    Furthermore, The World Health Organization has a list of mental illneses and amongst them is "EGODYSTONIC HOMOSEXUALITY" which means being homosexual and refusing to perceive yourself as it (it's a self-perception disorder)

  • Fuckin lesbian, this is such Bullshit!! she is still a lesbian but now she has a book to sell about her "coversion". Fuck her for the two steps back she took for society.

  • She wants some vagina so bad she can taste it.

  • its so odd to me that people buy this shit about religion. It sounds like so damn crazy. and its BORING!

  • @MadieHx its not boring if you use your head and choose to go with the right stuff. i am UNITARIAN UNIVERSALIST. we do not believe in a specific creed. i believe in god but i dont believe any of that zombie jesus walking again crap... i believe that if you are a good person and you care about others and use your head and common sence,

  • @MadieHx you are going to heaven. thats all that god wants. he just wants us to be good people and love others. he doesnt care about where we put our private parts... he cares about loving your neighbor as you love yourself...

  • Thank you Lord for your grace, love and mercy. It's your love that changes us and sets us free.

  • humanity is a sick joke, we weren't put here to be compasionate or to find a god to love, we were created to destroy everything pure tht's in our way due to an ignorance we can't overcome.

  • no... no....no.... you can NOT decide not to be gay/lesbian...its not a f*cking choice!!!! damn it these christians annoy me...

  • @ashleyelizabeth1921 have you ever once even considered the possibility of gay/lesbian being a choice? Everything we do is a choice, isn't it? Why is it such a stretch to believe that our minds can be transformed by the truth that is Jesus Christ and His healing grace? Just say I believe and let Him work in you to reveal His truth to you. You'll be changed forever. Peace

  • @MrStradia coming from a bisexual person, i can assure you that it is not a choice.... if it was, i can tell you, i chose to be bi, the same day you chose to be straight. did you CHOOSE to be straight? no.. thats just how you feel. you are attracted to the opposite sex.... before you say something, acutally think about it scientifically instead of just being brainwashed by faith...why would i choose this life for me when it makes my family so upset? its not a choice!!! get over it!

  • @ashleyelizabeth1921 Do you want to change? Do you want to be "straight"? Both you and I were created the same, In His Image. And His image is a caring gloving God. He established healthy relationships as between a man and a woman. So, the choice was already made for me by God. I did not choose otherwise. Something changed along the way in your life, and He gives us the free will to do that. So, while I did not make a choice to be straight, that's the way I was created.

  • @MrStradia no, i dont want to change. i am perfectly happy being attracted to both male and female. and guess what, unless i completely deny my feelings and make myself MISERABLE i cant change. its not a choice. i cant just choose to not be attracted to women i will always be attracted to women whether i want to or not. yes he is a caring and loving god... he created us as we are... he created us for a reason and he knows all so if he knew we were gonna be LGBT

  • @MrStradia and he supposedly doesnt like that, why wouldnt he make us straight?? he can make all these animals and trees and grass and the whole earth but he doesnt make everyone straight... i think someone a long time ago wrote that damn bible themselves and they were a homophobe so they decided to say...GOD DOESNT LIKE GAY PEOPLE.... i dont think god would make anything he didnt like.

  • @MrStradia GOD DOES NOT MAKE MISTAKES...he knew id be bisexual and he wanted me here anyway... god loves me just as i am... and I AM GOING TO HEAVEN!!! JUST AS I AM!!!

  • @ashleyelizabeth1921 no you're not, because it doesnt exist sorry, neither does hell or God or Jesus/Muhammed

  • @ashleyelizabeth1921 I am living my life in agreement with the way I was created. it's that simple, really. When we decide to live our lives otherwise, then we are outside of His will for us. God can change you, God has changed me in may areas of my life. I still occasionally struggle and sin in the area of purity, meaning I lust for women (which is the same as adultery) but I am allowing Jesus to heal me and change me into a greater likeness of His image.

  • @MrStradia ADULTERY IS NOT HAVING SAME SEX TENDENCIES.... ADULTERY IS CHEATING ON YOUR SPOUSE... I AM NOT COMMITTING ADULTERY.....

  • @ashleyelizabeth1921 The Word says if you even think about a woman in a lustful way, then you are committing adultery. How do you explain that if you are a man, or the opposite if you are a woman and have lustful thoughts for a man who is not your husband? Basically if you have lustful thoughts for someone who is not your husband/wife, then you are an adulterer. You don't have to take my word for it, it's right in the Bible.

  • @MrStradia and the bible is bullcrap... the bible says that were not allowed to eat shrimp cuz thats an abomination... we're also not supposed to cut our hair or wear clothes made from more than 1 kind of fabric... all these things are in leviticus... the same book that homosexuality is in..... see anything crappy about that? christians dont worry about eating shrimp or cutting their hair but they sure stick to that homosexual crap... there is so much fucked up stuff in the bible..

  • @MrStradia maybe if christians read the bible instead of pretending they read it all they would understand that there is so much horrible shit in there. but no.

  • @MrStradia Yes, its called "thought-crime"

  • @ashleyelizabeth1921 As far as God making mistakes - of course He doesn't. He made Adam and Eve, the prototype of what relationships were to be. One man, and one woman. Straight up, no waffling there. Through sin, we have fallen away from His intentions and exercised our own free-will. We are sinners, that's all there is to it. I am thankful that through Christ, I don't have to live as a sinner.

  • @MrStradia hey guess what. god made adam and eve right? ok and so we're all children of adam and eve??... therefore we're all INSEST!!! which is illegal... the whole adam and eve story is so f*cked up... and the jesus thing... we're worshiping a freakin zombie.... freakin died on the cross and rose again. yea thats a zombie. i dont agree with that or the adam and eve bullcrap. i believe in god. thats all that matters and god loves me for who i am. he created me the way i am and im goin to heaven

  • @ashleyelizabeth1921 Hey, so you know something about the Bible, which leads me to believe that at one point in your life you went to church. Right? What happened? I don't know you at all, but I know a lot of people have been hurt by the church and in the church. Not everyone is healthy in the church, kind of like a family, you know. Well, I am truly sorry if you were hurt or abused by someone in the church, that's not what church is supposed to be like.

  • @MrStradia yea i totally was molested by a priest...LMAO... no wierdo.. just cuz i dont agree with catholicism doesnt mean a priest or anyone in the church touched me....and another thing, i am not making up my own religion. i am UNITARIAN UNIVERSALIST and THAT is one of the oldest religions in america.... LOOK IT UP.... our church members are more christ-like than any other christians youve ever met.

  • @ashleyelizabeth1921 It's you choice if you choose the believe the Word, or if you will continue to make up your own religion. The Bible is there, and if you choose to believe it, then I believe you will one day find the peace you a re looking for. The people in the Bible were not perfect, but God used them in powerful and mighty ways to bring glory to Himself. I serve the God of the Bible, What God do you serve? I hope you have a personal experience with the Living God. Blessings to you.

  • @ashleyelizabeth1921 There is salvation, forgiveness, healing, and freedom at the cross of Christ. That's what He died for. I believe you when you say that you are going to Heaven. But there is so much more than that. There is a relationship with the Living God, who loves us so much and wants to see each one of us restored to Him through those things that He died for. He loves us too much to leave us where we are at today.

  • @ashleyelizabeth1921 You don't have to take my word for it, it's all in His Word. Once you know and desire your true identity in Christ Jesus, then the transformation can start. Once you allow Jesus access to your heart, then the freedom begins. Don't bash Christians because they believe something and want you to experience the fullness of life in His Image. While our approach may not be tactful at times, we all desire the same thing, to be accepted the way God created us.

  • if there is a god why can he not let us be who we will if we're created in his image then being gay is a part of tht as well, why would he create people just to have them sin. tht's not a merciful god i'm going to be a part of. when christians can recognize ppl as ppl then i might recognize they're god but as long as they see people as saints and sinners theres no reconciliation here

  • @strandvanno you have to understand what in His image really means. Have you read the Word and really asked God for revelation of His character? I think you would be amazed. Being Christian doesn't mean hating everyone who is not, it means loving people for being His children and confronting sin where it is and speaking truth into perverted situations. If you read the Word, you will be impacted with the truth, and the truth will set you free from the bondage of homosexuality. Peace to you.

  • Spoken like a true, ignorant blasphemist. That's the problem with gays, always trying to use christianity in your favor. The Bible is clear on homosexuality, it is an ABOMINATION. You can't pick and choose what principles you choose to live and which ones you don't, you're supposed to live ALL the principles in the Bible to the best of your ability, not just meaning you can't say, "Didn't Jesus say love one another?" when you're clearly living in outward defiance of what the Bible says about

  • ...homosexuality. And God DOES live, and he still LOVES you, He just doesn't approve of your sin, just like He doesn't approve of ANYONE'S sins.

  • @tapusatele yes and God will not send gays to hell because he understands that no one is perfect

  • It's a very big deal God is not a God who will be mocked! He has created us in His image male and female. There is a reason, the marriage bed is holy. The fact of the matter it is, homosexuality is a mindset, we are to renew our minds day by day in the Word. Those that are of Christ have of the mind of Christ, anything that's opposite of Christ is sin and of the devil. The devil is the father of all lies, God is the true and living God! The God of all truth!

  • its all in her head, shes still a lesbian. that wont change. theres a difference from what someone says but truely thinks. shes an act. get over it if your gay or not. its not a big deal, i dont even understand why its still debated upon

  • Truly, there story is inspriational. Praise Jesus.

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  • He just killed her on the inside. A lesbian was who she was, but then she was brainwashed. She became something she is not, and she is special no more.

  • How do you know it wasn't the other way around? She was brain-washed now she's not. Don't assume you know.

  • Halelujah and praise God to this young lady and her family. This is proof that homosexuality is a choice, a lifestyle and a behavior. Satan has this world fooled and wants to capture as many souls as he can before the end comes. And for those of you who don't believe, but the end is near. Jesus is on his way back. Don't let Satan rob you of your souls. You can be saved, God loves all and wants not one to perish.

  • God bless you.

  • these so called christians have lost their battle against gay americans

  • Praise God!

    The enemy has been efeted!!!!

    ONLY GOD CAN CHANGE HEARTS!!!!

  • Amen

  • why because they stand for what God has called us to be.

  • Amen

  • Poor, poor, bigoted brainwashed people. Base your lives on a book of fables and rules made up by man.

    I pray for you. ; )

  • this is there testimony not there charitable deed.

  • Jeff Bought that lesbian a coffee because he wanted to bang her. So fella's, if you want to bang a lesbian, don't buy them a cocktail, buy them a latte.

  • Bonus hypocrisy! OutoftheClosetTV continually lectures us on Jesus' statments in Matthew on praying in private.

    But what about Matt 6, when Jesus teaches the same about charitable deeds?

    tinyurl[dot]com/7mhlr2 <-- LOL!

    Take heed that you do not do your charitable deeds before men, to be seen by them. Otherwise you have no reward from your Father in heaven." Matt6:1

    Reading all the way to verse 4 would certainly include showing off by slapping up a YouTube vid.

  • I know you're reading this Ted.

    Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a mans enemies will be those of his own household. Matt10:34-36

    Do you know who Al Mohler is? He's President of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.

    tinyurl[dot]com/57bgjt <--What would your mother say?

  • "Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience. For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account. Heb4:11-13

  • "For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him." Rom5:7-9

    This wrath is both real and imminent. This is wrath against sin as God defines it; not those who want to keep their favorite sin active. Licentiousness = cheap grace.

  • Matt 24: Then if anyone says to you, Look, here is the Christ! or There! do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect." <-- According to His choice, and not ours.

  • This is it. Get behind me Satan. I brush my shoes clean of this space on the Internet. I hand over this soul to you and I pray for his deliverance. I also pray a hedge of protection around my family, time, and spirit. He continues to attack so I give it over to you Lord Jesus. This spirit is more powerful than I. I am nothing without you oh Lord. I confess you are the only answer for him. He is not satisfied with you alone. I have shared my life and light.

  • Ted:[I hand over this soul to you and I pray for his deliverance.]<-- In public.

    Ted:[I also pray a hedge of protection around my family, time, and spirit.]<--Vain incantations.

    Ted:[I have shared my life and light.] <--Lie. Your light is hidden under a bush.

    "Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand." Eph6:13

    I stand, you run.

  • Get behind me Satan.

    Ted:[I've answered that question about 3 times so far in this thread. Read what I've typed demon.]

    Throwing out ad hominem fallacies is not the gospel of salvation.

    You failed.

  • Ted:[Get behind me Satan.]

    Are you sure? When Jesus said this, He countered with scripture. All you got is some rote mystical formula. You're using this phrase is an incantation or something.

    Oh yeah, and your faith is dead.

  • Lord....help this individual. He seeks freedom. Deliver him from his sins and his possession.

  • Ted:[Lord....help this individual. He seeks freedom. Deliver him from his sins and his possession.]

    Are you praying in public? I seem to recall Drew (?) condemning those who do such as a "son of Satan." I can dig the quote up if you like. Too bad you can't edit that.

  • [Can you actually do that, or are you just going to throw unconfirmed accusations?] I already have. Read thru my thread demon. If you are seeking freedom demon, Jesus is the way to the Kingdom of God. Seek God first. Have faith. Just call and on the Name of our Lord and you will be saved. If anyone attempts to take that from you brother, they are demon possessed or sent from Satan. Cast those demons away.  Do not speak with them. Speak only to God.

  • Ted:[Jesus is the way to the Kingdom of God.]

    You follow a different Jesus, one you've created to suit yourself.

    Ted:[Seek God first.]

    Where?

    Ted:[Have faith.]

    Which you still fail to define.

  • Ted:[If you want to know the Holy Spirit, ask Jesus to reveal to you the Holy Spirit. It's not my might or by power, but by the Spirit says the Lord.]

    OH, I'm sorry! You can't quote the Bible, because you can always parse it like you do when the Bible defines sin. To you, the Bible is meaningless. 

    So answer me, where did you get your other gospel?

  • I've answered that question about 3 times so far in this thread. Read what I've typed demon. I am not here to satisfy your thirst for division about the followers of Christ. Get behind me Satan. You are given to perversion. You prefer to be disobedient and argue with Believers. You have surrounded yourself with people who only want to hear what their itching ears want to hear. REPENT! The Kingdom of God is near. Repent. Ask God to remove this demon. Tell God you don't want it.

  • Ted:[I've answered that question about 3 times so far in this thread. Read what I've typed demon.]

    Throwing out ad hominem fallacies is not the gospel of salvation.

    You failed.

  • [Because the fleshly urge to sexual preference is more powerful than God, right?] This demon really is confused. I have no sexual preference. I am only attracted to men. To say it's a preference is to say I prefer living over death. There is no choice in the matter. I prefer living because when I am dead, no choice remains. I am gay because I am gay. When I die, I will be neither gay or straight. You create the idea of preference because you beliefs are perverted.

  • [What is this Holy Spirit you speak of?] Again, I do not speak to demons. If you want to know the Holy Spirit, ask Jesus to reveal to you the Holy Spirit. It's not my might or by power, but by the Spirit says the Lord.

  • Ted:[Again, I do not speak to demons.]

    This is an irrational statement, because (a.) you're continuiing to dialogue, and (b.) you merely assume an unclean spirit without testing it first. How do you even know the HS is talking to you? Is it when you hear what you want to hear?

  • [Do you believe we were all born in sin or not?] I do not believe that because I was born gay, I am a sinner. I believe that because I am a sinner, I am a sinner. I do not believe that sin is what makes me a christian, I believe that my faith in our Lord Jesus makes me a Christian. No demon or confused soul can take away my Lord. No demon can make a straight man gay or a gay man straight. God loves you even if you are gay my friend. I think this might be the case for YOU.

  • Ted:[I do not believe that because I was born gay, I am a sinner. I believe that because I am a sinner, I am a sinner.]

    Okay, so what is sin? Define it.

    Ted:[I do not believe that sin is what makes me a christian, I believe that my faith in our Lord Jesus makes me a Christian.]

    Then what did Jesus atone for?

  • [Explain it and stop labeling me. You're emulating the very Christian stereotype you hate.] I've never used hate in reference to people. Only you have. Get behind me Satan. You are a liar. Be free. Ask the Lord for deliverance brother.

  • Ted:[You are a liar.]

    Then tell the truth. The only way to defeat a lie is by revealing the truth.

    Can you actually do that, or are you just going to throw unconfirmed accusations?

  • O:[It has learned how to manipulate you to create arguments and confusion in the Name of our Lord Jesus.]

    Get behind me Satan.

  • As I told you yesterday, I don't hold conversation with demons. You know the Scriptures. So, you can answer for yourself what a born again Christian is. Get behind me Satan. Jesus free these person of this perverse spirit. Demon get out of this man.  You are perverting him and his witness. Lord free Him. We don't want this straight man molesting children. Protect the children Father God. Protect children for this perverted spirit.

  • O:[You know the Scriptures. So, you can answer for yourself what a born again Christian is.]

    I want to see YOU do it.

    That is, if you're not ashamed of the gospel.

  • Ted, where did you get the formula for your little exorcism there, a dollar store?

    Answer this please. Honest question.

  • Yvette is a person who is who she is. We thank God she found God anyway she did. My only concern for her is that is she is denying her true calling in life, she might be misleading her husband and children. We wouldn't want her to start a family and then leave them for a woman. This is why as a gay Christian, I reach out to other gay men and women. i want them to learn who they are in Christ. My goal is to protect them for people like you who tell them that God lies to them.

  • O:[...she might be misleading her husband and children. We wouldn't want her to start a family and then leave them for a woman.]

    Because the fleshly urge to sexual preference is more powerful than God, right?

    Again, your faith is truly dead.

  • Is it the Holy Spirit that you speak of? Are we pursuing the same HS? Is yours like the force in SW? You seem to always seek in mystical questions. You are a mystic?

  • O:[Is it the Holy Spirit that you speak of? Are we pursuing the same HS? Is yours like the force in SW? You seem to always seek in mystical questions. You are a mystic?]

    What is this Holy Spirit you speak of?

  • Regarding this video, it's unfortunate that this lady didn't know the Lord WHEN she was a lesbian. She found the Lord and someone convinced her that she wasn't a lesbian because to the don't add up. It might be true for her life. I'm not here to judge. But the lie about this video is that, God doesn't love her for who he created her to be. That's sad.

  • O:[Regarding this video, it's unfortunate that this lady didn't know the Lord WHEN she was a lesbian.]

    She's a human being and not your special label.

    O:[I'm not here to judge.]

    But you do it anyway, and fallaciously at that.

    O:[But the lie about this video is that, God doesn't love her for who he created her to be.]

    What, you mean a human being...right?

    Do you believe we were all born in sin or not?

  • Tell the demon to go. Don't let it convince you that it needs to say or wants to stay or that it isn't real. Tell it to go. Then begin to pray and show thanksgiving to the Lord. From this space, you will stop wanting to argue with everyone. You will stop being someone who brings division in the body. Repent. Praise. Follow. Worship our Abba Father in Heaven. Thank you Jesus. Thank you Jesus. As a gay man, we know the freeing power of our faith, trust, and belief in Scripture and God.

  • O:[As a gay man, we know the freeing power of our faith, trust, and belief in Scripture and God.]

    Which you have still failed to share. If I am unsaved, then tell me your gospel of salvation. Unpack it. Explain it and stop labeling me. You're emulating the very Christian stereotype you hate.

  • I disagree with you. Since you are possessed by a demon, it is working inside of you. It isn't overt here on Youtube. It has however worked its way into your personality. It has learned how to manipulate you to create arguments and confusion in the Name of our Lord Jesus. You probably invited this demon in without even knowing it. You were listening to one of your cultish tapes or played the Ouji Board or something. Just tell our Lord that you want the demon to go. Then...

  • O:[It has learned how to manipulate you to create arguments and confusion in the Name of our Lord Jesus.]

    If this is true, then you are obligated to point out the truth. You've failed to do this.

    O:[You probably invited this demon in without even knowing it.]

    Which you assumed and never tested against an objective standard. You "feel" it is true, therefore it is. I think your mother might take issue with this however.

  • O:[You were listening to one of your cultish tapes...]

    Which you cannot name. At the same time you fail to acknowledge the names I have endorsed.

    O:[Just tell our Lord that you want the demon to go.]

    What lord are you appealing to? Your lord is your sensuality.

  • O:[And I will never ask you a question just to prove a point.]

    Do you even have a point to stand on?

    O:[I will not be put on trail or be a victim to the demons that possess you.]

    Which you arbitrarily labeled, but never bothered to truly test. Demons are spirits. Demons disguise themselves and aren't as overt as you're implying.

  • And know the reason i continue to answer these questions for you is because it seems that you are seeking a relationship with our Lord and Savior. Have you ever asked the Lord to be the Savior of your life? Are you a born-again Christian?

  • O:[Have you ever asked the Lord to be the Savior of your life? Are you a born-again Christian?]

    What is the definition of this "born-again Christian?"

  • The phrase "Abba, Father" appears three times in Scripture; once in the Gospels, and twice in the letters of Paul. In Mark 14:36, Jesus said, "Abba, Father, all things are possible for You. Take this cup away from Me, nevertheless, not what I will, but what You will." The apostle Paul wrote in Romans 8:15, "You did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, Abba, Father'."

  • The think I hate most about YouTube is that it doesn't allow you to edit your postings. I really don't get the reason behind that one.

  • O:[The think I hate most about YouTube is that it doesn't allow you to edit your postings. I really don't get the reason behind that one.]

    No problem. I'm always willing to let you amend your statements. I'm not here to play "gotcha." I want you to think.

  • Abba Father lives in my heart, mind and soul. He saved me from a live of judging others and judging my neighbors. I asked God to reveal to me His path for my life. As He began unfolding all the mysteries of my path, there were many surprises. As you seek salvation in our Lord, I pray you continue to pray as I do. God, I will follow. Just show me the path to service and worship to you. Reveal me more so I can reveal your grace and mercy more. I surrender all Lord. Pray believing. Faith.

  • O:[Abba Father lives in my heart, mind and soul.] <--Who?

    O:[As He began unfolding all the mysteries of my path...]<-- How was this path revealed? Through what means?

    O:[As you seek salvation in our Lord, I pray you continue to pray as I do.] <-- How is your salvation obtained? What is prayer?

    O:[Faith.] <-- Define faith.

    Note, I will never ask you a question that I cannot answer first. So get down to it.

  • O:[As He began unfolding all the mysteries of my path...]<-- How was this path revealed? Through what means?

    Leading of the Holy Spirit. As a Spirit-filled born-again Christian, the Lord Jesus opens your heart to what is possible, not impossible.

  • O:[Leading of the Holy Spirit.]

    How? Verbally? The Holy Spirit leads you how? So you mystically "felt" it, like the Force in SW? What is this Holy Spirit you speak of?

  • I won't explain faith to you because you already know what it means. I said, I won't argue with you. I'm not on trial. You aren't on trial. If you are stumbling brother, reach out to the Lord. God will be there. God is faithful. God listens to His children and gives them what they ask for. Do not be afraid to trust in the Lord as I've encouraged you before in my postings to you.

  • O:[I won't explain faith to you because you already know what it means.]

    NO!!! I am almost 100% sure our defs are mutually exclusive. I'll raise that bet and assert that you don't define faith objectively.

    You're such a tease.

  • O:[I said, I won't argue with you. I'm not on trial. You aren't on trial.]

    Then stop making wild accusations and tell Drew to stop labeling Yvette, who is more true to herself than one who defines themselves according to their proclivity.

  • And I will never ask you a question just to prove a point. I will not be put on trail or be a victim to the demons that possess you. As a brother in Christ, I pray for your deliverance of these demonic presences.

  • Yvette isn't showboating here. Sure it's a stage, but what she did here is far more honest than your pretentious Christmas special. You ever consider for once that maybe your brother didn't want a camera poking into his personal space? But you loved it. Why? Because you know how to engineer the facade. Ted and Drew project an image to suit the agenda. Yvette here is far more honest. There's confession on stage and then there's your "staged confession."

  • Ted, why won't you answer my questions? I'm giving you credit for alleged courage here, but you continually flinch and hide.

    What is it about truth that scares you? Why are you unable to deal with it and look it in the eye?

    Because you follow a Jesus-in-name-only and call it good.

  • Or, you'll say no deal, because you want to treat your Christianity like we are Power Rangers and we have to use super powers to share God's love. It amazes me how people really believe that God NEEDS them to help promote the Gospel. God is God. He created the Heavens and the Earth. He needs for nothing. God can make us vanish in a flash. I believe God WANTS us to love each other and learn to get along. God doesn't want us to judge, play super hero christian, and pray on street corners.

  • OotCTV:[It amazes me how people really believe that God NEEDS them to help promote the Gospel.]

    Then you're rejecting Matt28:18 and as such, you reject Christ's own words.

  • OotCTV:[Or, you'll say no deal, because you want to treat your Christianity like we are Power Rangers...]

    Your gift for exaggeration and sophistry is amazing. LOL! "Power Rangers" = Strawman fallacy. Where ever did I appeal to that? QUOTE ME!

  • OotCTV:[I believe God WANTS us to love each other and learn to get along.]

    Okay, I accept that you believe that. So stick around for a bit and explain where you get this belief. Don't bolt like some coward, stand your ground. Support your thesis if you are so bold!

  • Stop it. Just stop. You act like a small child. As brother's in Christ, let's just continue to pursue love and acceptance. Jesus would expect us to do this. Together, let's hold hands and share the love Christ has in store for the planet. Deal?

  • OotCTV:[Stop it. Just stop. You act like a small child.] I'm the one trying to discuss this rationally and you're playing games like, "Whoever appears on TV first = mircacle!"

    Which Jesus are you appealing to? The Jesus of the Bible? Who is this Christ you claim to follow?

  • My heart goes out to these self-loathing people. It's sad. OVERTURN prop 8!

  • Just stop. You like to hear yourself talk. It's rather boring.

  • OotCTV:[Just stop. You like to hear yourself talk. It's rather boring.]

    I'm not the one plugging my TV appearances for purely subjective reasons. I noticed you not only crave the spotlight, but in interviews you make pointed comments about being "on stage." You perceive something in me that you think should be exclusive to yourself. Drop the drama and let's talk about truth.

    This isn't about subjective fear-mongering and you know it. Either the Bible is divine truth or it isn't.

  • They scared the gay out of here. Now that called, Shock Therapy. You go Oophorectomy.  Next you are going to be recommending shock therapy as Hitler did.

  • OotcTV:[They scared the gay out of here.]

    Proof? Or empty rhetoric on your part?

    OotcTV:Next you are going to be recommending shock therapy as Hitler did.]

    Your associations fail because I continually refer to Bonhoeffer. You obviously have no idea who he was. Your willful ignorance is amazing.

  • Ted, if I came up to you in a big city as you were walking in an intersection, and then forcefully body-checked you out onto the sidewalk, would you think I was assaulting you?

    What if I saw the truck that was about to hit you and you didn't?

  • "For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." -Hebrews 4:12

    Beyond my own orders (Matt28), I love them all and I don't want any of them to suffer the second death.

    So I preach. I preach and chat and write until my hands ache for them to repent of sin as God defines sin; not as Ted redefines it.

  • Let me tell you about Mikey. We went to HS together and he took me to my first RHPS party. He went on to Texas A&M and got engaged to a nice girl. Later, he came out of the closet because Russell and Ana did. Mikey is bi though.

    We were all part of a wide network of friends. But Mikey stopped sending letters about the same time I had my falling out with Ana.

  • Let me tell you about my first real girlfriend Ana. We were into the same books and movies. She was my 1st real kiss and 1st sexual encounter. She also had 2 moms. Ana became a Professor at Kent State and hates me because I converted. Ana divorced the father of her child and became an activist lesbian less than 5 years ago. My wife knows I still miss her. Part of me always will. She refuses to speak to me ever again.

  • As a gay Christian, I just pray we all come together and continue to serve the Lord. If those who hate us can learn to Love us as Abba Father loves, we can begin to truly help people where they are at in their lives. The world needs love. Let's work together. We won't vote agsinst your freedoms to marry and you dont vote against ours.

  • The download limit was exceeded and I didn't make it to pt. 3.

    Listen, I was raised Southern Baptist and side with founders[dot]org. Fifteen years ago, my BFF Russell came out of the closet and I still love him to this day. We spent a few Christmases together with his family.

    This doesn't mean that I endorse his sin. Get it? But he doesn't believe it's sin, so we're at an obvious impasse. It doesn't make me a hater though, and you're accusations will never stick.

  • Let me tell you about Virginia. She was one of my first bosses at a fast food joint I worked at. She was one of the biggest; meanest lesbians I ever met. I was the only other employee with her when we were held up at gunpoint. After the guy got away, I prayed with her. She knew that I knew. I still hugged her and she cried. Five years later, she actually showed up at my church. She's celibate now. That's a miracle. She also asked me not to tell any members about her past. So I didn't.

  • Flaunt it. I'm just attempting to help people undestand that gays are just average joys that love the Lord. night. I hope you like the film.

  • watch it on the USA Network. Do you have cable?

  • OotCTV:[watch it on the USA Network. Do you have cable?]

    I told you 37 min ago that I didn't have cable. See, that's your problem! You don't pay attention to what I write!

  • Are you watching? I'm on USA Network right now.

  • OotCTV:[Are you watching? I'm on USA Network right now.]

    Look man, I just told you! Enjoy the rush. I'll wait for your to upload it, okay?

    Stop avoiding my question. I answered yours. Fair is fair.

  • ootcTV:[Are you watching? I'm on USA Network right now.]

    It's available online, watching it now.

  • BTW, why did you attempt to deceive me? You uploaded this a long time ago. You could have simply sent a link, but no, you had to dramatize it as some "miracle."

    *shaking head*

  • If Ted and Drew live together in an openly gay relationship under a licentious "No Lordship/cheap grace" theology. . .then what is it that keeps one from cheating on the other?

    Adultery is a sin too, but Ted and Drew have a licence to do anything and still claim to be Christians. Therefore, neither one necessarily needs to remain loyal.

    What's an oath? I'm under my cheap grace? What's love? I don't "feel" love right now, and I'm under grace!

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  • OotcTV:[It's in an area you don't know that you don't know. Even if I described it, you aren't able to see it. It's a gift God gives someone when their heart is truly repentant.]

    Now you're appealing to extra-biblical mysticism. Keep it ambiguous. We are not ignorant of your devices.

  • It's in an area you don't know that you don't know. Even if I described it, you aren't able to see it. It's a gift God gives someone when their heart is truly repentant.

  • I'm out of here. Love you brother. Just surrender your seeking to the Lord and reach out. Jesus has His hands outstretched. Let go of your legalism and you will find Abba Father. Seek Ye First the Kingdom of God. Trust in the Lord and lean not on your own understandings, but acknowledge Him in all your ways and he will make yours paths straight.

  • OotcTV:[Trust in the Lord and lean not on your own understandings, but acknowledge Him in all your ways and he will make yours paths straight.]

    Which you fail to do. "Your way" there is corrupted by your will to keep your own way, your understanding, and your own behavior.

    You flaunt it. You (literally) take great pride in it.

  • No. I'm just saying. Either God shows favor with you and your belief of He doesn't. Another option is that you sit there in your little room and type on You Tube all day or you actually reach people with a message of His love or not. My guess is, you just sit there and read scripture all day. That is proof that Satan is alive and well on the planet. He has create his own legion of legalists. Repent and seek ye first the Kingdom of God.

  • OotCTV:[He has create his own legion of legalists.]

    That's the usual accusation for those who don't understand that works = the fruit of a heart that God regenerated, and not man's works.

    OotCTV:[Repent and seek ye first the Kingdom of God.]

    You butchered that verse as badly as Drew did.

  • Go turn on the USA Network. At 2 P.M. you'll see how God is showing favor in my service to Abba Father. It will be interesting to see how you respond.

    Love you brok

    USA Network. Turn it on now. It starts in 14 minutes. You are looking for The Great American Christmas.

  • OotCTV:[Go turn on the USA Network.]

    Sry. Don't even have Basic cable.

    OotCTV:[At 2 P.M. you'll see how God is showing favor in my service to Abba Father.]

    So TV somehow trumps the 5 solas???

  • OotCTV:[Go turn on the USA Network. At 2 P.M. you'll see how God is showing favor in my service to Abba Father. It will be interesting to see how you respond.]

    How about I wait for you to YouTube the clip or something?

    BTW, answer my question. I answered yours.

  • OotCTV:[Would you at least consider that some what of a miracle if I was able to do that on national television in the next 24 hours.]

    Now who's bragging? Oooh! You're a celeb? Well then, is this where I grovel at your star status? Don't start playing the prima donna, please.

    A false prophet is a false prophet, even on TV.

  • hello?

  • I am game. So, if you don't accept the invitation to play. You don't believe in the power of the Holy Spirit. If you do play, then the game starts once you respond.

  • What if I was to appear in a Christmas movie about gays and straights celebrating....let's make something up here...Christmas. Let's cast it now. What if I cast a gay (that's me), a TV evangelist, a black woman, a mexican, and some others. And in this tv event, I proclaim my "gayness" and my love for God and His Children. Would you consider that some what of a miracle?

  • Would you then believe it is possible that God MIGHT be on my side here. That God might be attempting to reach out to Christians by teaching them that gays are Christian too? Would you at least consider that some what of a miracle if I was able to do that on national television in the next 24 hours.

  • OotCTV:[That God might be attempting to reach out to Christians by teaching them that gays are Christian too?]

    Gays can be Christians, only they're the ones that Drew calls shameful above. You can have the proclivity, but it is sacrificed to Christ, not flaunted as you do. We're all sinners, but cheap grace and licentiousness isn't an excuse.

  • In the Old, The New contained.

    In the New, The Old explained.

    In the Old, The New concealed.

    In the New, The Old revealed.

    OotCTV:[I do not confess any division.]

    Yet you divide God's Word, His prophets, His apostles, and even His Messiah who endorses them.

  • Ted's problem here is that he claims I'm part of some cult when he doesn't realize that I am only saying the exact same thing as would Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Ravi Zacharias, or John MacArthur.

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    You're peddling what is called "cheap grace." You have taken a sacred gift of God and desecrated it according to scripture. Your proclivity is not justified by any scripture. I renounced my (already admitted) perverse disposition. That's repentance.

  • Cult typically refers to a cohesive social group devoted to beliefs or practices that the surrounding population considers to be outside the mainstream, with a notably positive or negative popular perception

    I am not going to argue with you. No matter how powerful the demons are that you have invited to live within your body. I feel like it might be the demon of perversion. Are you molesting someone? Your little sister maybe? You are attracted to my sexuality and won't stop. Repent.

  • OotCTV:[You don't realize it, but you've been pulled into a cult.] <-- Again, what cult? I told you I'm a Reformed theologian. I went to MBI.

    OotCTV:[I am not going to argue with you.]<--Then stop doing it.

    OotCTV:[I feel like it might be the demon of perversion.] <-- John 8:48-50.

    And all thieves tend to think everyone else is a thief. I'm 35 years old and was born an only child. Swing and a miss.

  • Am I the only one here, but Oophore continues to poke fun at my faith in Abba Father. He throws stones without thought and he judges those he does not know. As it says in Matthew that the hypocrites like to talk about their amazing knowledge of the Scriptures. Abba Father, we pray for his true repentance and surrender. God you are the only banner I carry. I do not confess any division. I am not Reformed anything. I just love you. Even the demons use Scripture Lord. Spirit free him.

  • OotCTV:[Am I the only one here, but Oophore continues to poke fun at my faith in Abba Father.] <--I see nothing funny about it.

    OotCTV:[He throws stones without thought and he judges those he does not know.]

    "Stones" = sacred scripture texted across 3 states.

    "Judges" = Discernment, not condemnation. I as a human being have no power to truly condemn anyone. Get it?

  • OotCTV:[As it says in Matthew that the hypocrites like to talk about their amazing knowledge of the Scriptures.]

    Quote it. Show me.

    OotCTV:[Abba Father, we pray for his true repentance and surrender.]

    You say preaching the word is a sin? (2 Tim 4:1-3)

    OotCTV[God you are the only banner I carry.]

    Which god is this that? 1 John 1:6 says you are lying.

    OotCTV:[Even the demons use Scripture Lord.] <--And Christ set the example for countering it in Luke 4:4 "...every word if God."

  • How about this, you seem to be one for games. Let's do this. If you are correct about me not being a gay Christian, would you say that God isn't supportive of my witness to the world? The God you serve would never allow such a sinful person like me to move, touch and inspire millions, right? If that's the case, what if I could perform a miracle for you? What if in the next 24 hours, I could reach across America with my message of love and Christianity. And I'd do BOTH at the same time?

  • OotCTV:[How about this, you seem to be one for games.]<--This is no game.

    OotCTV:[...would you say that God isn't supportive of my witness to the world?]

    Dunno, all I've heard thus far is your "easy believism" garbage. Hope that's not your witness.

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  • It's an easy yes or no. What if I could stop normal television broadcasting and show up on television for 60 minutes, no, 2 hours. But you've got to give me 24 hours...no let's make it 1 hours. Would you believe that God shows some type of favor on me if I could show up on your television for the next two hours? The game would be. Who ever can do it first, God shows the most favor on. Game? Do you believe in the power of God or not?

  • OotCTV:[Would you believe that God shows some type of favor on me if I could show up on your television for the next two hours?]

    No. Why?

  • OotCTV:[The God you serve would never allow such a sinful person like me to move, touch and inspire millions, right?]

    Yes, He would. Have you not read Revelation, or Matt 24? Why do you think Antichrist is called the man of lawlessness?

  • OotCTV:[...what if I could perform a miracle for you?]

    The apostle John instructs me to test it against scripture first.

    "It is also written: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'" <-- Matt4:7 He's quoting OT.

  • You sit there and PLAY THE GAME of YOU ARE GOD and JUDGE PEOPLE. You BROADCAST to YouTube viewers that you are the hero who gets to go to heaven because God created you straight and me gay. You broadcast lie and lie and lie. You play word games and manipulate scriptures to serve your demon possessed mine. Then, when I ask you to show evidence of your faith, you wimp out. Hello? You are so out of control.

  • OotCTV:[You sit there and PLAY THE GAME of YOU ARE GOD and JUDGE PEOPLE.]

    It's not a game. It's my orders.

    Furthermore, you delberately confuse the word "judge."

  • Show me the scripture where it says to sit on Youtube and judge people you've never met. It's a such a sad world. God save our planet for this veil of confusion Satan has placed over those who are seeking salvation. Lord, they really want to know you. Jesus break through their veil of confusion and legalism.

  • OotCTV:[You BROADCAST to YouTube viewers that you are the hero who gets to go to heaven because God created you straight and me gay.]

    If I am straight and fail to repent of all of my personally prized sins, then I am condemned to Hell, period.

    OotCTV:[You broadcast lie and lie and lie. You play word games and manipulate scriptures to serve your demon possessed mine.]

    Still waiting for you to actuall prove that. It's easy you know.