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  • awsome lessons dood do you know were i can find the charts that u used in this vid? the minor pentatonic outlines with the altered notes for each mode?

  • @brostomper Thanks! I don't have the charts anymore... But you should check out my site guitarplayback(dot)com

    These topics are covered in depth and come with backing tracks, pdfs and videos...

  • I have quite a bit of modal theory background but I feel like I'm learning something new-they are "tricks" if you will-clever indeed! I'm used to just relating the different modes, ie G major is the same as A Dorian is the same as E Natual minor is the same as C# Phrigian, etc.Then using say the C# Phrygian or A Dorian while the band jamms away in the key of G,

    etc-

    Love the vids and I am about to go check out your sight! Great stuff! And P.S> Loved the "secrets of Minor Pent" .COOOOL!

  • @gtrsuite Thank you so much!

    If you order anything off of guitarplayback(dot)com make sure you use the promo code "Youtube" at checkout. :-)

  • Great lesson!

  • @henrytdsimmons Thanks!

  • thank you for the tip of ''building'' the mode one note at time over the pentatonics....Ill try it tonight

  • Hey man great video, very helpful, I understand the meat of this but I just had a few questions.

    You referred to the 2nd tone of the aeolian mode as a 9th and I was wondering if 2nd and 9th can be used interchangeably within this mode as the same tone.

    Also, is Locrian neither minor or major?

    I know that it doesn't keep me from using the technique here but I really want to understand the theory.

  • @ZEPj6blacklabel Thanks for your comment, I really appreciate that!

    The 2nd and 9th are the same notes an octave apart.

    The Locrian is a minor mode because it has a minor 3rd. The 3rd of the scale (or chord) determines its nature.

    You might be interested in my "Applied Theory for Guitar Players" lesson pack on guitarplayback(dot)com

    It explains all that in a simple way and has helped a lot of guitar players understand what they play and develop new ides.

  • @Wallimann thanks I'll check it out

  • There is an expression that says, being a great guitarist doesn't make you a great teacher. However you are clearly both. Many thanks for the lessons.

  • @Poppypoo1 Thanks so much!

  • Thanks for your time! Enjoyed and learned.

  • @THErealAOS Thanks for the comment!

  • great edgy clean reverb tone!! your playing is so enjoyable, where do you get your backing tracks from?

  • @redlinebam Thanks so much!

    All the backings I play over are my own that are available on my site guitarplayback(dot)com

  • after watching mode lessons from 5 different channels and and coming out completely mindfkd, I come here and see 2 of your mode lessons, and I understand it so easily now. You Rock Dude!

  • @rampage222555 Awesome!

  • thanks man...this has plagued me for a while...can you do a video now on moving around the fretboard using these concepts....like everyone else here I thank you, while there is tons of information on guitar playing out there it is not all well written and definitely not as digestible.

  • @slitherlock Thank you very much for the nice comment! :-)

    You might want to check my "Applied theory for guitar players" on my site guitarplayback(dot)com.

    It helped hundreds of players and you might find it beneficial.

  • Tes vidéos sont excellentes

  • @seabrook75 Merci!

  • What a wonderful way of teaching you have! Learned so much already.

  • What a wonderful way of teaching you have! Learned so much already.

  • What a wonderful way of teaching you have! Learned so much already.

  • Every friday I watch you and learn new things Thank you I could use God bless you (metaphore) All I mean is thank you :)

  • @19990SAND He's blessed me so much already. :-)

    Thanks!

  • Awesome and very clear. Thanks!

  • @triclone123 Glad you like it!

  • This is what makes me regard you as a genius. Getting complex concepts into bite size, practical, easy to learn chunks. You is the man!

  • @hboneta Thank you very much!!!

  • i come from a rock/metal-shred background and although i had proper training, i always used modal playing without knowing exactly what im doing... i just used my imagination and my influences... its almost instinct....of course the ideal is to know what you are actually doing....another great lesson! thank you!

  • @nemogre Thanks for watching! :-)

  • Thanks Walliman again for your efforts. I dont know how I missed this video but you gave me an amazing opinion about playing modally. Keep up the good work mate!

  • Thanks Wallimann, this was a really useful and informative lesson! I actually think I've been using both those notes in my pentatonic playing without really thinking about it - guess my poor training in musical theory kept me from finding out what I was actually doing. :D Keep up the good work.

  • @SlightlyTubeish I'm glad this helped!

    You might also enjoy my "Applied theory for guitar players" lesson pack on my site guitarplayback(dot)com

  • @Wallimann Yeah, I've seen the site, and I will definately get around to checking it out as I'm looking to start refreshing and developing my playing skills after a (too) long guitar hiatus. Would you say the lessons are mostly relevant to developing my soloing skills, or do you cover some rhythm guitar stuff as well?

  • @SlightlyTubeish Mostly lead playing...

  • sir, how about if we are using major keys?

    

  • @MegaGarski Same thing but with Major pentatonic scales.

  • Awesome like always ,you,r my favorite on youtube ..you have the secret to makes what is difficult very easy to understand , thats the reason why so many players like your videos ..

    Great job Bud ,et a tres bientot une nouvelle video

  • @reacteur84 Thanks so much!

  • Walliman, just found your vids a few days ago and have already improved a lot. I've been playing guitar 12 years, grew up on Zeppelin/SRV/Beatles without much exposure to anything else outside of country and blues, and have felt like I've been stuck in the pentatonic scale my entire life and never progressed after the first few years of learning. Your videos have inspired me and are helping me learn new licks and techniques - Thanks!!!

  • @kvseelbach Thanks so much!

    You might find some more useful tools on my site guitarplayback(dot)com

    The "applied Theory for Guitar Players" is the most popular item and you might enjoy it too. :-)

  • I just mapped out the modes with the penta scales and a couple things I noticed: Lydian and Mixolydian match up with the Major Pentatonic while the others match up with the minor. And Locrian doesn't match up with anything. (see your other vids)

  • @zliminator Exactly! :-)

    If you want to go further with these concepts I recommend my "Applied Theory for Guitar players" on my site guitarplayback(dot)com It explains everything in more details with backing tracks...

  • Very helpful! 

  • @Guitarfreak365 I'm glad you liked this!

  • If you play Bm pentatonic over Cmaj type chords,this equates

    to lydian mode. notes from Bm pentatonic relate to Cmaj as maj7/9th/maj3rd/aug11/13. I'm just learning about pentatonic substitutions.

    feels like I've just opened pandora;s box.

    fascinating.

    your vids give me lots to think about.

    thanks again

  • @fekinel I'm glad you like that!

  • Awesome Fucking Lesson!!!!!!! If I could Sub multiple times I would....

  • @jtone20 Thanks! A more in depth version of this is available on my site guitarplayback(dot)com

  • Awesome Fucking Lesson!!!!!!!

  • great stuff

    thanks

  • @fekinel Thanks for watching!

  • First, I'm glad I found your lessons I have been looking for someone to lay out the modes this way. It allows us Rock Blues guys to get started using modes without completely changing your technique right away. have you made a video using the major pentatonic scale and the major modes?

    I found listening to artist that use modes in their playing in a Rockblues context makes this transition easier. I think Jeff Beck is ideal to help with this transition.

  • @BluesHeavy Thanks for watching my videos! I'm glad you found this useful. :-)

  • I like you cuz you're nice.

  • @DougFCKNSteele I try! :-)

  • What exact types of chords can you play these modal scales over. Obviously those cool fusion groove backing tracks you have going work well with the examples you played for us. However, if I am playing in a funk jam, can I break the rules a bit? I mean can I play a maj 6th or a min 6th note? How do you know which noted work the best over which chord/ chord progressions???

  • @3rdeyepictures If the 6th is not specified, then you get to chose it. :-)

    This video might help: watch?v=wimGlqwYrjY

  • Man, you really nailed my problem! Stuck in the boiler plate pento blues box, then trying to go modal, and just running the scale. Fun at first, but ultimately pretty generic. What you're showing here will keep me busy for months! I FEEL A BREAKTHROUGH COMIN' ON! noticeable improvement after about an hour. WOW, This is gonna be fun! Thank you my friend.

  • @jpalberthoward9 I'm excited for you!

    Thanks for much for taking the time to write this!

  • this is brilliant! thank you!

  • @mmmrbbb Glad you liked this!

  • What u play sounds smooth but kinda sucky and bland too

    Like not hard edge and rocky. To play that maybe u have to learn to be less skilful!

  • @ynyslochtyn if you want to sound rocky you play minor pentatonic..mainly

  • Got it!!! Finally, thank you man, really, you did help me a lot!!! Finally I can work it out through all the fucking modes understanding what is that I got to do to can finally sound more musical instead of just shreding speeding and ubwbfwbfwubfwubf... haha!!! I´m really (agradecido)... Thank you so much, good fucking lesson!!! Saludos desde Ecuador!!!

  • @sanitrash That is soooo good to hear! Don't hesitate to ask me for more questions...

  • ok.,....Kinda a beginner when it comes to modes. I understand what modes are. but I really dont know how to use them. Lets say we are in the key of C major. so the second mode is D Dorian then E Phrygian and so on.......I get it.....but do I play D dorian mode over C Major....or what Key center? Dm? this is where everything gets fuzzy in head....

  • @bsky420 You need to forget about the fact that modes are related to each other first... You should see them as unique and individual scales. Check out my lesson pack "applied theory for guitar players" on guitarplayback(dot)com

    It explains everything! :-)

  • Thanks for these lessons and your time! I have been stuck on trying to learn modes and for me it's just been "patterns"... and thinking each chord of a song i had to switch to a different pattern... Sounded disconnected...i like how you are teaching that they blend together. Slowly unlocking the fretboard!

  • @concretejungle80cruz Thanks so much for your comment! :-)

  • When I decided to get a proper guitar teacher, he did the most awesome thing (I didn't fully undertand the value untill recently), he taught me the C mayor scale, and then the modes of C on the fretboard, but he said "dont think about modes right now, think about it as playing all the "white" notes on the fretboard.

    BOOM, when I learned the shapes I understood that I could play in any key in any mode or scale anywhere on the fretboard. Plus I could tell all the notes on the fretboard.

  • That helped soooo much, seriously! I'm a HEAVY minor pentatonic soloist, and I've been trying to understand modes but it is just so difficult for me to grasp right away since it's relatively new to me. Thank you very much for taking the time to teach this and post it!

  • @ChromaticGamer Thanks a lot for this! :-)

  • Man!, U R THE BEST!

    Tks!

  • @marcellocorreia Thanks man! :-)

  • Wut... I've always done it this way... I'm usually confused about modes because people approach it in such complicated ways.

  • Do you move these modes like the arpeggios with the chord changes ie blues I, IV, and the V chord! thanks!!

  • @Mr1Bluesman You can, but it's not a must. :-)

  • @gledisonfonseca Thanks for the nice comments!

    For a track in Am (which is A Aeolian), it would be the same exact method. The order would change though:

    Aeolian, Locrian, Ionian, Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian and Mixolydian.

    So in A Aeolian you could use these positions:

    A minor penta,

    D minor penta

    E minor penta

  • You know... pdf with the images would be so helpful!!

  • @DuartChannel Ah yeah, indeed! I'm redoing all these old lessons though on guitarplayback(dot)com with pdfs, backings, etc. Not free though.. :-/

  • @Wallimann Hmm even if it's not free, if you could post an example, if it's good I'm sure people are willing to buy.

  • @DuartChannel I'll see what I can do for the future one! :-)

  • It took me *years* to "translate" the concept of modes from the confused scales centered explanation given in books and my teacher 30 years ago, to the simple block building idea of layering intervals on top of basic triads and pentatonics.

    Thanks for this elegantly simple and concise practical approach to discovering the world outside fenced boxes.

  • @pica1dilly Man, this is great. Thanks so much for your comment!

  • wow this really helped! now i understand that i've actually been playing modes all along without knowing! thanks!

  • @simpleone1989 Excellent! Thanks for the comment! :-)

  • do you have a site that has all your backing tracks in it and can be downloaded?.. you should make one..

  • @kustomkarson Yeah, I do. Currently about 120 backing tracks. The link is in the description of this video. :-)

  • i dont understand i learnt different shapes to the modes you just showed? did i learn the wrong ones?! PLEASE REPLY

  • @JoshGoldie No, you're all good. There are as many positions as guitar players. You just need to start somewhere.

    But in the end, you won't rely on positions. Rather you will associate sounds to finger movements and be free from the shapes. The important thing is to really hear the sound of these scales and anticipate the sound of the notes you play.

    There are many positions simply because you can play the same note on different strings, different frets. :-)

  • @Wallimann thanks alot man :)

  • How does one purposely write a progression in.. lets say mixolydian in the key of C major? Start with a G.... then what?

  • @simonize251 Yeah, and also keep a G on the bass note no matter which chords you add on top. That will really bring out the color of these modes. :-)

  • @Wallimann Thank you guitar Jesus.

  • thanknyou my friend lol,now i can ply bluesyjazz,god bless

  • thanknyou my friend lol

  • wow this is such an awsome way too see intervals in a more creative way and modal use =]

  • @crisDAwog Glad you like this! :-)

  • ahhh thats a nice backing track in D minor, is there a way i could get it, u can u link it or something?

  • @datblkkidjason Just added the link to the backing track in the video description. :-)

  • @Wallimann AHHH yay thx! :D

  • this is absolutely amazing man, can you do this for all of the modes as well?

  • @gromshit101 Glad you like this! Yes, you can.

  • what is this 9th and 7th?

  • @motorhead1995able Those are intervals. The distance between 2 notes. Check my Youtube lessons on intervals, or even better get my "Applied theory for guitar players" pack on guitarplaybackdotcom. :-D

  • incredible! you made it so clear for me now.. I really like you teaching style! Rock on!!!

  • @romwave Great! Thanks a lot buddy! :-)

  • Je voudrais que je connaisse suffisamment la théorie de musique pour pouvoir me profiter de tes cours :( Mais je dois avouer que j'ai l'impression de les comprendre malgré mon ignorance ce qui signifie que tu es un très bon professeur. J'éspère que j'arriverai à un point où je pourrai profiter de ta connaissance dans l'avenir proche :/

  • @Ningirsutyr Merci beaucoup! :-)

  • sooooooooo helpful!!!

    thanks man, that was really great. made me understand it so much better now.

    great teacher!!

  • @naimabedval1 Thanks so much!

  • salut mec, je sais que tu parles français donc je ferai pas l effort de poser ma question en anglais ^^ :

    ta lesson est vraiment cool mais de ce que j ai cru comprendre des modes, il faut changer de mode en fonction de l accord qui est joué et c'est ça qui me prend un peu la tête vu que je suis d'une nullité sans nom en solfège. Par exemple si je joue en tonalité de sol, sur une progression sol / ré/ do, quand je passe au ré je joue en quoi, idem pour le sol? thanks buddy!

  • @D0nRidah Salut!

    En fait c'est pas si compliqué... Oui, tu dois changer de mode pour chaque accord, mais la plupart du temps, tu n'as pas à te casser la tete parceque si tu restes sur le meme mode et que les accords sont dans la meme tonalité, le changement de moe se fait automatiquement.. :-)

    Si tu joues sur une progression de Sol, Ré et Do, tu peux rester en Sol Majeur (Ionien) et c'est tout bon. :-)

  • @TheRockerInside Thanks a lot!

    Yes, it works exactly the same with the Major modes. :-)

  • Great lesson idea. Thanks! When practicing and improvising with the modes, I tend to sound very scalar. This idea of just adding the 'color' tones is great!

    This lesson really helped me out!

  • @kid4594 Thanks for watching!

  • in the new video you said 99% of the guitar players. haha

  • @theshreddedcheese hahaha!

  • When Talking About Modes Like Dorian And Locrian There Are Modes Derived From The Major Scale

    Can You Get Modes Derived From The Minor Scale

  • @emmetwhitey The minor scale is derived from the Major scale too, so in a sense.. Every mode is derived from each other. :-)

    But try to think of them as new unique scales. It helps!

  • Great video, man! Can't wait to get home and try this out. But I do have one question. Can this approach only be applied to the first position of the minor pentatonic scale?

  • @LLMstratocaster Thank you! No, you can also expand to the other positions if you want. :-)

  • thanks man thats a really sweet way to approach modes!

  • @SimLappp Thank YOU for watching!

  • Wallimann! I really need your help on this subject.

    Aren't modes supposed to be just the scale with the only condition of not stopping at some certain notes? For example, when improvising over Am7 (6th degree of the C major scale/1st degree of the A minor scale) using Aeolian, I shouldn't stop on the F note.

    Is that right?

    Thank you so much! THnks for making this vids!

  • @RamiroFeichu Hi buddy!

    No, that's not exactly right. Modes are just scales.

    You shouldn't see them as related to each other, it's not useful for now.. It will be later, but it's best to see modes as a collection of notes that if played over a root will give a particular color.

    You should check out my site guitarplayback dotcom.. I'm planning to explain all this soon! :-)

  • @Wallimann I was just saying what my teacher explained to me. I've been working on modes for almost a year. So when it comes to improvise I'm still not able to apply modes correctly (that's why I do what you're saying, I play just the scale).

    Thanks anyway, for your time.

    Could you explain in another lesson a little bit from the melodic minor scale?

  • @RamiroFeichu Oh ok!

    Yeah, I can do something on the melodic minor, I'll try my best!

    Thanks again for watching my videos, it really means a lot!

  • Wallimann! I really need your help on this subject.

    Aren't modes supposed to be just the scale with the only condition of not stopping at some certain notes? For example, when I play Am7 (6th degree of the C major scale/first degree of the A minor scale) I shouldn't stop at F.

  • THIS IS SICK MAN. !!! Gracias

  • @bytewax Thanks! :-)

  • I've been playing for years too and no-one else has explained like you have, I have actually learnt something tonight! thanx man.

  • @gweezuva Tanks a lot for the comment! It means a lot! :-)

  • I have always played the pentatonic scales. Recently i have learnt the caged system's 5 major scales and there respective positions. All this in view of getting into modes. In this video you talk about 6th's and 9'ths. im confused as i dont know how to identify the 6th and 9ths. i.e the c major scale. I understand the 6th is A as it is 6 degrees from the C. Can i assume the 9th would be 9 degrees from C, presumably D?. do i add those notes to the pentatonic scale where i am on the neck ?

  • @davidrobertbrown I think you need to do it visually, it will be easier. :-)

    I have a lesson on intervals on my site, check it out. :-)

  • Really Good Stuff... What about the Locrian mode though?

  • @CRACKERDOODLE Thanks a lot! As you noticed the Locrian is a part because it doesn't directly include a pentatonic scale. I have a Locrian lesson somewhere on my channel though.

  • Been playing for years and this is the best/clearest explanation on modes and their uses I've heard. I've been playing these modes by ear but now I understand how they fit in nicely to music theory.

  • @BrainFreezeEnt Thank you very much!

    Glad these are clear! :-)

  • wauw , nice!!!! this is a perfect way to get into the modes by practicing.

  • @25jonathan I'm glad you enjoy this!

  • i just want to know that how do you know that is a ninth and a six i'm confuse i dont know how to find it on scale pentatonic scale

  • @romyboy Check out my Interval lesson. The Youtube video tag is T9O_eutxbYY

  • Great lesson thanks. Could i make a suggestion for a lesson on combining diminished stuff over a standard 12 bar blues. Its smoething that erally confuses me and isnt well taught.

    Thanks Again

    toby

  • @toby1kenobe Thanks!

    Good suggestion, I'll add it to the list. :-)

  • Top video. What's the best chord progression to play over. I, IV and V or something else? Cheers.

  • @meerkat305 Thanks!

    I would practice over as many chord progressions as possible just to get used to different situations...

    But I IV V is pretty common in blues.

    You also have VI II V I in jazz...

  • David

    Top stuff! I've just started looking at modes and to be honest it's burstin' my melon! The way you got it across here was really useful. Cheers!

    Georgie Boy

  • Thanks so much for the encouraging words!

    I'm glad this is helping, don't hesitate to ask questions if anything is unclear!

  • Hey David. This is an interesting approach and no one has actually explained it this way (not I have seen anywhere yet). Pretty cool, I wish I could have started like this when I was stuck into pentatonic and didn't know how to remember all those scales/modes. I think I can still give a go as I am not completely done with it. Anyway, I always loved the way you record videos back from GMC. Cheers!!

  • Thanks my friend!

    I started teaching with this approach not too long ago actually. It seems to be a bit less confusing than other ways I've used before.

    Glad you like it!

  • David, so well explained with excellent examples! Love your melodic creativity, too! Steve Eulberg

  • Thanks so much for the encouraging words Steve!

  • Great lesson.

  • This helps a lot. The only question I would have is do you have any tips for becoming more fluent in the last mode not mentioned: Locrain?

    I understand it's the most mysterious of all 7 due to its being partly diminished, partly not.

  • Great question!

    I didn't include it here because it does not include an obvious pentatonic shape, but I will work on a lesson discussing that mode in the future :-)

  • awesome lesson david, thanks for sharing your knowledge.

  • Thanks my friend! :-)

  • Another fabulous lesson! Keep it up. These modal from pentatonics are HUGELY helpful.

  • Glad you like these! It's really a pleasure to share these with you guys! :-)

  • you don't have idea how much you are helping me with these videos, i'm trying to learn to improvise and your videos are the best, please keep doing these modal lessons thank you,and 5 stars..... of course!!

  • Thank you so much for the encouraging words! It means a lot to me!

  • i totally thought the clue was on this and it was hidden very well. Guess i was wrong:) Nice vid though :D

  • Haha!

    Thanks! :-)

  • No Treasure hunt tips??? AAaaaaah...

    Still, nice lesson!!

  • Haha! That's why I get so many views! For the treasure! lol!

  • @Wallimann

    yep.... :P But there's no clue in this vid! :s

  • Excellent; tout compris car expliqué simplement.

    Maintenant, Ya plus qu'a mettre en pratique et c'est pas gagné!!!

    Belle leçon David.

    A+