Very well put together, but I have to disagree on your order, and inclusions. It is only my opinion, but my top 5 would be 1. Sugar Ray Robinson 2. George Foreman 3. Joe Louis 4. Jack Dempsey 5. Joe Frazier/Ali
Muhammad Ali himself said Sugar Ray was the greatest of all time, Foreman CRUSHED everyone in his path, Joe Louis's name speaks for itself, Jack Dempsey had 25 first round knockouts and retired originally at 60-1 (the 1 loss being "The Long Count", and Frazier/Ali is a toss up for me.
@BigRussNovak good arguments, but you have to put marciano on that list... he never lost and changed the sport, so i think you can make an argument that i put him too high, but he definitely belongs in the top 5
@BigRussNovak Come off it, Ali > Frazier. Ali was out of the ring in his prime for over 3 years, then came back and beat Foreman who'd easily destroyed Frazier and who much later regained a title. As you have Robinson in your top 6, why not others from different weights, instead of 5 heavies? At least you don't have Tyson, and not simply recent fighters either (such a common fault on youtube, in various sports- loads of people have no idea of history).
BOXING NOW IS TOO ADVANCE:TECHNIQUES,TRAINING,STAMINA, POWER,IT'S SCIENCE..New champs 2day may far better now compare to old champs b4.I'm for Pacquiao as d only 7 Weight Divs.World Champ.beating morales,barrera,marquez, hatton,n cotto all 3 Weight Divs.World Champs; larios 2 Weight Divs World Champ;n dela hoya 6 Weight Divs World Champ. Mayweather is avoiding cotto,williams,berto,margarito,clottey n now pacquiao. Also avoided mosley during his prime. Sori if not Ali,wit 2 ?? wins vs Norton.
All-time pound for pound... 1. Sugar Ray Robinson 2. Muhammad Ali 3. Henry Armstrong 4. Sugar Ray Leonard 5. Roberto Duran All-time Heavyweight... 1. Muhammad Ali 2. Joe Louis 3. Larry Holmes 4. Jack Johnson 5. Lennox Lewis
Anything that does not have Sugar Ray Robinson at the top of the list is not worth looking at. The pound for pound rankings were invented for him. As far as Marciano being better than Louis I mean lets be realistic here yes marciano was undefeated and beat an AGING PAST HIS PRIME LOUIS. Louis faced better opposition and did a lot more in his career.
@PaPo0Se546 yea right dude, a bunch of negros running around grabbing their johnsons with thier caps on backwards & their pants falling of with their ass crack hanging out,& STUPID white dicks trying to imulate them. ranks right up there with bach mozat- ray charles-jackie wilson & truly great black singers etc -you feel me bro. abtw i hate HM
@willieraye possibly this guy never heard of rap music....do u think that music is only the shit that came out in 70's and earlier? if u think that dr dre has no talent then u must see a doctor....u are propably a far-right close minded old man...
@willieraye willieraye get the fuck outta here, ya aint know shit about Hip hop and u dont deserve to.. go fight with dragons. hip hop is a culture,its way more than 50 cent and Gucci mane, its J Dilla,its KRS one, its Mos def. but anyway,who gives a fuck.real music created by real artists is not 4 suckaz.
@willieraye datz 1 suckers opinion. HIP HOP lives, u just cant deal with it.hip hop is art and ur music is 4 school nerds who cant afford the stress and put up 2 metal.shiiit
@willieraye, Tupac's music sucks? I think its just you listening to 40's white man music where it was all off beat and no soul. Well welcome to the 90's rap old man
@willieraye, listen 'homie', Im 38 years old, with a job, a wife and 3 kids, and a masters degree. Im pretty sure you are the one who might need a life. You're probably a cocky little 14 year old who knows nothing about Tupac's music. No wonder you say this music sucks, you know nothing about it or Tupac, it may be alittle adult for you.
@cainey66 eih asshole! fist thing.. don't dare to insult me,have you understand?. you reason in mathematical manner and you mistake. the matches of ali against liston were a two farces and foreman was more strong than ali even he has lost. to lose mean nothing..also the best can lose against the weaker. and tyson was a lot perfected than foreman. i don t think tyson would allow alì to run away then tyson could only devastate mohamed alì.
And Tyson got beat by a second rate no name Buster Douglas who simply outboxed him. Ali would have ran circles around Tyson.
When Tyson fans talk about him, they always refer in what ifs. What if D' Amato had lived longer, what if he hadn't gotten thrown in jail, what if he had stuck to his original style, rather than head-hunted looking for knockouts. The fact of the matter is that none of those things happened, so you can't consider him even close to the top 5.
Neither did Calzaghe, Ottke, Lopez and few other boxers. Prime Louis would of beaten Marciano (My opinion), + all the boxers on my list went past Marciano's record undefeated apart from Ali and Holmes (Who's 49th fight was fixed so he wouldn't be able to beat Rocky's rec). Sure Marciano is one of the greatest heavyweights he's just not in my top 5, everyone has a different list :P, other boxers I was thinking about mentioning are Jack Johnson, Harry Greb, Henry Armstrong and Duran.
Joe Louis state that in his prime he could never beat Marciano and it has to do with the fact that Louis hated being crowded. it's all about styles and Rocky is a Brawler/Swarmer. Louis' style is tailor made for him (outfighter.)
Think of Rock Paper Scissors: All else equal, the outside fighter beats the brawler, the brawler beats the swarmer and the swarmer beats the outfighter.
A top five list of countless fighters and even more opinions, someone is likely to get let off that would be on another's list.
Marciano: Great chin, great heart, unbelievably strong for his size, deceptively hard to hit, tremendous power for his size...and unequalled conditioning.
Love that track. Nas is the shit (even though he's fell off recently). But, I have to echo what everybody else said: Sugar Ray Robinson has to be number one! And how about Willie Pep? I think if I had to make a list it would go: 1. Sugar Ray Robinson 2. Harry Greb 3. Muhammad Ali 4. Willie Pep 5. Joe Louis. Honorable mention: JC Chavez, Nicolino Locche, Ezzard Charles, Dick Tiger, and Archie Moore.
Not because of his record but because his left eye was legally blind and he had to fight with his right eye, which wasn't found out till his retirement
People keep saying rocky marciano retired undefeated, someone can go undefeated if they fight all there fights with bums, not saying Marciano isn't a good boxer but who did he box? a washed up old Joe Louis? I mean come on, Ali fought Foreman, Frazier I,II,III, Liston twice, Norton twice and once with a broken jaw, Patterson, Shavers, the list goes on
shit thats nothing Sugar Ray Robinson lost once in his first 123 fights. Not to mention Marciano fought in a questionable era where there weren't many great contenders.
what a fan boy . . hard to swallow the truth isnt it? all marciano fought were tomato cans and the only few good ones are being threatened by the mafia
he almost lost to walcott, he needed a late rnd KO 2 win that fight. marciano was the best of his era and undefeated is great! but undefeated is overrated if u really didnt fight any1 n i feel he fought in 1 of the weakest era's and also his biggest win was against over-the-hill joe louis. if u ask me he doesnt beat foreman, fraizer, ali, holmes, dempsey, liston, tyson, holyfield, lewis, jack johnson, or a prime joe louis n the klitchko's. n by today's standards he would only b a cruiserweight
1. Ali
2. Sugar Ray Robinson
3. Foreman
4. Frazier
5. Tyson
snowbowl92 3 weeks ago
5 heavyweights... ARE YOU KIDDING!!! where is Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong, Willie pep and Roberto Duran?
Joe Frazier, George Foreman and Rocky Marciano are all great fighters, but they don't belong at the top 5
boksefrede118 8 months ago
@boksefrede118
Marciano does... but I can agree with Goreman and Frazier
BossMuzza 2 months ago
Mike Tyson is the best boxer ever.
killuminatii1 9 months ago
Unbelievable HW bias.
TheTartanSoldier 10 months ago
Ali, Robinson, Louis, Armstrong, SR Leonard, Duran, Wilde, Hagler, Jones, Chavez, Marciano, Pacquiao, Johnson, Monzon, Mayweather, Greb, B.Leonard, Foreman, Moore, Langford, Hearns, Pep, Dempsey..
mizofan 11 months ago
where is the man who killed ppl in the ring ! where is Max baer
horatiowolff 11 months ago
Very well put together, but I have to disagree on your order, and inclusions. It is only my opinion, but my top 5 would be 1. Sugar Ray Robinson 2. George Foreman 3. Joe Louis 4. Jack Dempsey 5. Joe Frazier/Ali
Muhammad Ali himself said Sugar Ray was the greatest of all time, Foreman CRUSHED everyone in his path, Joe Louis's name speaks for itself, Jack Dempsey had 25 first round knockouts and retired originally at 60-1 (the 1 loss being "The Long Count", and Frazier/Ali is a toss up for me.
BigRussNovak 1 year ago
@BigRussNovak good arguments, but you have to put marciano on that list... he never lost and changed the sport, so i think you can make an argument that i put him too high, but he definitely belongs in the top 5
forza1992 1 year ago
@BigRussNovak Come off it, Ali > Frazier. Ali was out of the ring in his prime for over 3 years, then came back and beat Foreman who'd easily destroyed Frazier and who much later regained a title. As you have Robinson in your top 6, why not others from different weights, instead of 5 heavies? At least you don't have Tyson, and not simply recent fighters either (such a common fault on youtube, in various sports- loads of people have no idea of history).
mizofan 11 months ago
wtf? where is jc chavez
DOBERMEYD 1 year ago
@DOBERMEYD yur joking right?
forza1992 1 year ago
Why all heavyweights?
wafwaf62 1 year ago
tyson is really good but clasis clay would hit him 80 times before he hit the ground
Rasta19856 1 year ago
where is tyson he might not be in a good time era but he had the know how as the others he just wasnt properly tested exept spinks
ninjablack95 1 year ago
Dont forget old boxers as Rocky Marciano who is undefeated for 49 matches,
And Jack Dempsey who was a legend too
CengizJM1 1 year ago
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BOXING NOW IS TOO ADVANCE:TECHNIQUES,TRAINING,STAMINA, POWER,IT'S SCIENCE..New champs 2day may far better now compare to old champs b4.I'm for Pacquiao as d only 7 Weight Divs.World Champ.beating morales,barrera,marquez, hatton,n cotto all 3 Weight Divs.World Champs; larios 2 Weight Divs World Champ;n dela hoya 6 Weight Divs World Champ. Mayweather is avoiding cotto,williams,berto,margarito,clottey n now pacquiao. Also avoided mosley during his prime. Sori if not Ali,wit 2 ?? wins vs Norton.
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Tyson is king
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zeceasi 1 year ago
tyson is better than all of them
kmesprtan 1 year ago
@kmesprtan haha... umm no
forza1992 1 year ago 6
@kmesprtan Away and swim in your own piss you twat. Ali would have jabbed his head off all night you fucking clown.
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iljn1988 1 year ago
Anything that does not have Sugar Ray Robinson at the top of the list is not worth looking at. The pound for pound rankings were invented for him. As far as Marciano being better than Louis I mean lets be realistic here yes marciano was undefeated and beat an AGING PAST HIS PRIME LOUIS. Louis faced better opposition and did a lot more in his career.
thugology10016 1 year ago
this music sucks
willieraye 1 year ago
@willieraye
so does your mother
forza1992 1 year ago 3
@forza1992 why dont you try shoving your head up your ass & see if it fits
willieraye 1 year ago
@willieraye fuck off go listen to ur metal piece of shit...
this music is the SHIT
PaPo0Se546 1 year ago
@PaPo0Se546 most definitly black rap GARBAGE, SHIT ON TOP OF NO TALENT SHIT
willieraye 1 year ago
@willieraye ok the hip hop beatz are made by producers with no talent like dr dre , dj premier , j dilla...
and of course rappers as Scarface and Ice Cube have no tallent as well....
wtf is goin on in ur head metal boy?
PaPo0Se546 1 year ago
@PaPo0Se546 yea right lmfao this shit is a real statment its gonna rank right up there in music history
willieraye 1 year ago
@willieraye yes it will ...go play ur guitar-axe....
PaPo0Se546 1 year ago
@PaPo0Se546 yea right dude, a bunch of negros running around grabbing their johnsons with thier caps on backwards & their pants falling of with their ass crack hanging out,& STUPID white dicks trying to imulate them. ranks right up there with bach mozat- ray charles-jackie wilson & truly great black singers etc -you feel me bro. abtw i hate HM
willieraye 1 year ago
@willieraye possibly this guy never heard of rap music....do u think that music is only the shit that came out in 70's and earlier? if u think that dr dre has no talent then u must see a doctor....u are propably a far-right close minded old man...
PaPo0Se546 1 year ago
@willieraye willieraye get the fuck outta here, ya aint know shit about Hip hop and u dont deserve to.. go fight with dragons. hip hop is a culture,its way more than 50 cent and Gucci mane, its J Dilla,its KRS one, its Mos def. but anyway,who gives a fuck.real music created by real artists is not 4 suckaz.
RaineR3313 1 year ago
@RaineR3313 put your hat on right dude pull your pants up wear a belt & get a job. & this so called art from the loser hood SUCKS 1 mans opinon
willieraye 1 year ago
@willieraye datz 1 suckers opinion. HIP HOP lives, u just cant deal with it.hip hop is art and ur music is 4 school nerds who cant afford the stress and put up 2 metal.shiiit
RaineR3313 1 year ago
@willieraye, Tupac's music sucks? I think its just you listening to 40's white man music where it was all off beat and no soul. Well welcome to the 90's rap old man
kingdarius1991 1 year ago
@kingdarius1991 1 mans opinon it sucks white man dick
willieraye 1 year ago
@willieraye, apparently the only 1 mans decision is yours, "this music sucks". speak for yourself
kingdarius1991 1 year ago
@kingdarius1991 it sucks. now you pull your pants on homie & get a fucking job
willieraye 1 year ago
@willieraye, listen 'homie', Im 38 years old, with a job, a wife and 3 kids, and a masters degree. Im pretty sure you are the one who might need a life. You're probably a cocky little 14 year old who knows nothing about Tupac's music. No wonder you say this music sucks, you know nothing about it or Tupac, it may be alittle adult for you.
kingdarius1991 1 year ago
@kingdarius1991 one mans opinon holmes.. damm shoot me if you dudes like enjoy.. & im 15
willieraye 1 year ago
@willieraye exactly my point
kingdarius1991 1 year ago
why aint pac-man on there?
MasterDragonfableX 2 years ago
ali was too weak ,he was only a showman
this is the really heaveweight list:
1 mike tyson
2 charles sonny liston
3 george foreman
4 david tua- joe louis-joe frazier
6 tommy morrison-ray mercer
7 lewis-holifield
rickiRude88 2 years ago
@rickiRude88 are u stupid alis weak yet u pu t tyson 1 lol he lst to evry good fighter faced and ali beat liston and foreman tit!
cainey66 2 years ago
@cainey66 eih asshole! fist thing.. don't dare to insult me,have you understand?. you reason in mathematical manner and you mistake. the matches of ali against liston were a two farces and foreman was more strong than ali even he has lost. to lose mean nothing..also the best can lose against the weaker. and tyson was a lot perfected than foreman. i don t think tyson would allow alì to run away then tyson could only devastate mohamed alì.
rickiRude88 2 years ago
And Tyson got beat by a second rate no name Buster Douglas who simply outboxed him. Ali would have ran circles around Tyson.
When Tyson fans talk about him, they always refer in what ifs. What if D' Amato had lived longer, what if he hadn't gotten thrown in jail, what if he had stuck to his original style, rather than head-hunted looking for knockouts. The fact of the matter is that none of those things happened, so you can't consider him even close to the top 5.
trehansen 1 year ago
name of the song
elmhm 2 years ago
@elmhm
the first is nas - got yourself a gun and the second is 2pac - all eyes on me
forza1992 2 years ago
sugar ray robinson
marciano
pacman
salvador sanchez
ali/tyson/duran/lopez/chavez
500hpsohc 2 years ago
1.Ali
2.marciano
3.Tyson
4. lewis
5. pacman
aspenaspen 2 years ago
My top 5 "Favourites"
1. Joe Gans
2. "Sugar" Ray Robinson
3. Joe Louis
4. Willie Pep
5. Ali or Larry Holmes
Christofides1 2 years ago
@Christofides1
how is marciano not in your mind top 5 worthy, and lewis is???
marciano NEVER lost a fight
forza1992 2 years ago
Neither did Calzaghe, Ottke, Lopez and few other boxers. Prime Louis would of beaten Marciano (My opinion), + all the boxers on my list went past Marciano's record undefeated apart from Ali and Holmes (Who's 49th fight was fixed so he wouldn't be able to beat Rocky's rec). Sure Marciano is one of the greatest heavyweights he's just not in my top 5, everyone has a different list :P, other boxers I was thinking about mentioning are Jack Johnson, Harry Greb, Henry Armstrong and Duran.
Christofides1 2 years ago
Joe Louis state that in his prime he could never beat Marciano and it has to do with the fact that Louis hated being crowded. it's all about styles and Rocky is a Brawler/Swarmer. Louis' style is tailor made for him (outfighter.)
Think of Rock Paper Scissors: All else equal, the outside fighter beats the brawler, the brawler beats the swarmer and the swarmer beats the outfighter.
Example: Rocky beats Ali, Ali beats Foreman, Foreman beats Rocky *style comparison here.)
mongoose704 2 years ago
A top five list of countless fighters and even more opinions, someone is likely to get let off that would be on another's list.
Marciano: Great chin, great heart, unbelievably strong for his size, deceptively hard to hit, tremendous power for his size...and unequalled conditioning.
mongoose704 2 years ago
1. laszlo papp
2. ricardo lopez
3. joe calzaghe
4. carlos monson
5. ray leonard
szerszamos 2 years ago
shouldda been listed as top 5 heavyweights,...lol
northpoint43m 2 years ago
Love that track. Nas is the shit (even though he's fell off recently). But, I have to echo what everybody else said: Sugar Ray Robinson has to be number one! And how about Willie Pep? I think if I had to make a list it would go: 1. Sugar Ray Robinson 2. Harry Greb 3. Muhammad Ali 4. Willie Pep 5. Joe Louis. Honorable mention: JC Chavez, Nicolino Locche, Ezzard Charles, Dick Tiger, and Archie Moore.
FrizzyBlue 2 years ago
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Joe Louis
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Roberto Duran
trehansen 2 years ago
@trehansen great fucking lis, sugar ray should be on every1's top pvp
msquad223 2 years ago
Can't believe I just left out Joe Louis, but where 2 put him?
MingeDaddy 2 years ago
Somewhere in the top 3. Boot out Foreman.
trehansen 2 years ago
5. George Foreman
4.Julio Cesar Chavez
3.Rocky Marciano
2.Muhammed Ali
1.Sugar Ray Robinson
MingeDaddy 2 years ago
Where the hell is Sugar Ray Robinson
MrDontknowhisname 2 years ago
Most bandwagon boxing fans don't understand how good SRR is. He was simply the greatest ever. The most complete boxer we have ever seen.
trehansen 2 years ago
2. Muhammad Ali - 61 fights
56 (37)-5-0
Ali had the hardest competition and even won the hardest and most famous bout past his prime
Kotor007 2 years ago
3. Rocky Marciano - 49 fights
49 (43)-0-0
Only Undefeated Heavy Weight and one of the first pioneers of boxing
Kotor007 2 years ago
4. Joe Frazier - 37 Fights
32 (27)-4-1
Not because of his record but because his left eye was legally blind and he had to fight with his right eye, which wasn't found out till his retirement
Kotor007 2 years ago
5. Joe Louis - 68
65 (51)-3-0
National Hero, plus quoted the words "he can run but he can't hide" lol
Kotor007 2 years ago
5. Joe Calzaghe
4. Lenox Lewis
3. Muhammud Ali
2. Ray Robinson
1. George Foreman
ratBern310 2 years ago
calzaghe?
the dudes fought an old ass hopkins and an old ass roy jones jr
blackeye240 2 years ago
Top 5 fighter's ever pound for pound in my opinion
1-Sugar Ray Robinson
2-Henry Armstrong
3-Muhammud Ali
4-Roberto Duran
5-Pernell Whitaker
dhlfh 2 years ago
1.rocky marciono
2.muhammen ali
3.sugar ray robinson
4.lenord
5.mike tyson
wrestlemania4forever 2 years ago
People keep saying rocky marciano retired undefeated, someone can go undefeated if they fight all there fights with bums, not saying Marciano isn't a good boxer but who did he box? a washed up old Joe Louis? I mean come on, Ali fought Foreman, Frazier I,II,III, Liston twice, Norton twice and once with a broken jaw, Patterson, Shavers, the list goes on
JxNeeley 2 years ago
1. laszlo papp
2. ricardo lopez
3. joe calzaghe
3. ray leonard
4. carlos monzon
szerszamos 2 years ago
marciano never lost a fight and ali reddfined boxing
forza1992 2 years ago
agreed but the rating shows best pound for pound...note also that papp, lopez, calzaghe and monzon didn't lose a fight...
szerszamos 2 years ago
sugar ray robinson, salvador sanchez,rocky marciano, 80s mike tyson, ricardo lopez.its hard to argue with the 16 straight years of champ of lopez
500hpsohc 2 years ago
wheres ali? and marciano should be higher because he was undefeated... never lost
forza1992 2 years ago
1.Ali
2.Frazier
3.Foreman
4.Leonard
5.Norton
18alou 3 years ago
cmon man, marciano never lost 49-0
forza1992 3 years ago
Never lost but fought a bunch of bums
LuisDel09 2 years ago 2
shit thats nothing Sugar Ray Robinson lost once in his first 123 fights. Not to mention Marciano fought in a questionable era where there weren't many great contenders.
trehansen 2 years ago
i dont care, the point is he never lost
not only that, he never came close to being defeated
forza1992 2 years ago
what a fan boy . . hard to swallow the truth isnt it? all marciano fought were tomato cans and the only few good ones are being threatened by the mafia
fiendsteer 2 years ago
Marciano was a great fighter but you can't compare his competition to the likes of guys like Ali, Foreman etc.
mootle661 2 years ago
he almost lost to walcott, he needed a late rnd KO 2 win that fight. marciano was the best of his era and undefeated is great! but undefeated is overrated if u really didnt fight any1 n i feel he fought in 1 of the weakest era's and also his biggest win was against over-the-hill joe louis. if u ask me he doesnt beat foreman, fraizer, ali, holmes, dempsey, liston, tyson, holyfield, lewis, jack johnson, or a prime joe louis n the klitchko's. n by today's standards he would only b a cruiserweight
jmgnyg 2 years ago
you could say the same about every boxer, that they faught bums... marciano took boxing to another level and is no doubt deserving to be in the top 5
forza1992 3 years ago
these guys would be in my top ten
forza1992 3 years ago
yes but. marciano is arguably the best ever
u no y? he never lost 49-0
forza1992 3 years ago