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  • Windows System Restore is the equivalent although, I suppose it can't restore documents...

  • i tought time machine brings me to the past it whould be cool I CAN HAVE A PET DINOSAUR IF IT DID :D

  • @TheUsernameIsLoading and i would have a pet T-REX Muhahaha and get a free mac :P

  • Brain of typical Mac user is so small... and that's why Apple simply must build programs like this, otherwise they do not understand what is going on.

    This is the truth about the time machine. None of mac user can use normal backup/restore tools. They can understand only such "star wars" concept.

  • @dkielb MORON

  • @dkielb good one...

  • =o

  • Or in Windows just type the first letters of the files name in search :/

  • @Kazaskater123 You can, it's called System Restore. It also actually lets me choose when I fucking want to back up my files, not fill up an entire drive with old files I'll probably never use.

    Oh yeah, I should also mention the 20 or so games I was able to buy from the money I saved from not buying a Mac.

  • omg i actually know the song thats playing "say goodnight and go" :P

  • @ThatEccentricguy It's by Imogen Heap - Goodnight & Go :-)

  • i used to have this os but i changed it into windows 7 and now i am on my laptop which is windows xp sp3 (just a gaming pc)

  • In last 5 years i never had need for this feature in Windows...

  • can any one tell me, will this back up the full install of programs like FCP or photoshop? or does Time Machine only backup files and settings? I need to re-install snow leopard and I would rather not have to re-install everything individually.

  • @tripmedia The first time you set up Time Machine, it asks you what you would like to back up. You can back up just a single folder, or your entire mac. In fact, if your hard drive dies, or you get a new mac, Time Machine will set up your new computer to be an exact replica of your prior. So to answer your question, yes, it backs up everything; as long as you tell it too.

  • @cfunkera  cool thanks for that.

  • time machine nice :P ... GOGO COPY IT TOO BIL =D~ microsoft rulez :D

  • @jeff181995 System restore existed on Windows XP. Windows Vista and 7 (Professional editions only) use volume shadow copy which can restore both system files and documents.

  • @darthirakli problem with that is the keywords, "system restore" not individual documents and files from specific applications or locations. Not to mention that it comes with every Mac not just the ones with "professional" attached to the name.

  • I hate time machine. Its so god damn slow for me. I'll click on a window to move it forward and it take like 2 minutes to respond.

  • @beachballa93 Usually when people have this problem they are running an older machine, or the most common thing is filevault is turned on. Filevault will encrypt every backup and when you try to access the files it has to decrypt it. This is a very mathmatical intensive algorythem that apple uses and as in any network or system security over speed is something that you have to decide on.

  • @beachballa93 did you buy your Mac brand new with Leopard preinstalled. I just bought my iMac the other day. It's the cheapest one available and Time Machine runs perfectly smooth for it. Chances are you have an older model that doesn't have the spec to run Time Machine. You may need to consider an upgrade.

  • @j800r Now that you mention it, I got my iMac just before leopard came out but then they sent me a copy. That could be the problem.

  • Apple- Think(s) different

  • System Restore - SUCKS!

    Time Machine - Awesomenesssssssssss!!!!!!!

  • :) mac rules

  • on microsoft its called System restore, all of apple and mac are on microsoft's dick

  • 

  • I have a phobia of outerspace, but I want to try Time Machine, ugh I'm screwed.

  • Looks pretty but: what if not user data will be lost but any critical system file or configuration? And system won't load himself and time machine? What then? Does MAC OS have also SYSTEM restore, not only user file restore?

  • Time Machine can do a complete system restore, so yes.

  • @Hildron101010

    Yeah Time Machine can do a system restore, but the benefit on a Windows platform would be if for example your hard drive fails, you can still get your files back.. where as in Time Machine you need an External Drive to back up your files to..

  • @Yamcha67 Then you have never heard of Prosoft. It does the exact same thing you are saying, but for the Mac and Windows platform. It can read a corrupted disk.

  • @Hildron101010

    Ah Ic..

  • i get time machine failed it dont work whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy­yy?

  • Why is it the "most faggot-attracting operating system"?

    I'd like to see you provide a good reason.

  • @xN03L this gimmicky feature actually saved my final grade in a class. But hey, what do i know, i'm just a faggot

  • You mean, Windows?

  • WTF is this crap? Back-up disk, whoo, revolutionary...

  • Typical comment about somebody who has no idea of what this software is.

    It saved me at least 4 times in 3 months

  • Should back your shit up then instead of downloading porn like a douche...

  • Again, typical comment of someone who doesn't know what he is talking about and doesn't know what to reply!

  • I know what to reply, you should take responsability of backing up your data your self, instead of putting your machine in a position where you'll lose it all and have to rely on something independent to do it for you. Only stupid people need features like this...

  • I see you're not even aware of the topic. I use to run a backup script by myself, to backup data. Sometimes I was forgetting to do it, other times I did not have the time to. Now I don't have to do anything. I save time,I don't care about backups, and when I'm looking for a previous version of a document, a script, a program or whatever, I can have it with just 2 clicks. I save time. You have time to loose? Good for you. I don't.

  • You obviously have poor computer management. My machine never gets in a position where it's infected or data is lost... I have no need for this kind of feature what so ever...

  • And you obviously still don't get the point. THis is not just a backup thing, which can save from disk damage that can happen to ANY computer (your very good computer management should have taught you so), disk failures can happen any moment. And I don't even discuss the fact that you may need this or not.

  • What if you search for Time Machine on spotlight and it isn't there? How can you get Time Machine back from the past? lol

  • i got hackintosh tiger cuz i FEEL LIKE NOT PAYING 1000 OR MORE DOLLARS FOR SOMETHING IM NOT GOING TO USE OFTEN!

  • That is illegal, and you could end up in jail.

  • meh.

    its called HACKintosh.

    i installed it without accepting to the license & agreement. so there is a loophole.

    and if i did i would not care. im not running it now because it has no internet.

  • As long as a copy of Mac OS is running on a non-apple authorized computer, it is illegal. Just trying to warn you.

  • well i appreciate it.

  • Not in Europe :P

  • Yes, in Europe. I have it on my MacBook.

  • What's the background song?

  • Sounds like Imogen Heap.

  • Goodnight and Go-Imogen Heap

  • Nope not there....

    My comp is out dated already :(

  • If your processor is below 867 mhz in CPU, your computer is not eligible for upgrading to Leopard. There are other ways to make automated backups anyway. Lacie offers its own software for timed scheduled backup. Sure it doesn't have the galaxy background-

  • My friend had Time Machine working on his Macbook but he had no external HD. How is that?

  • you dont need to have it attached constantly, when you want to back up, attach the hard drive, back up, then disconnect again.

  • Maybe Could be double partitioned.

  • plleaase some one answer this for me...

    I have an exernal hard drive for my mac but where the heck do I get Time Machine. I have a Mac os x.

    Do you need to pay for Time Machine? I did google it but I cant find anywhere to DL this App.

  • Time Machine is part of OS X Leopard. You will find it in System Preferences->System. Also on the Menu Bar of the Finder, the little clock in the upper right hand corner

  • Ohhh I have the Tiger :( :( :( There is no Time Machine on my machine :(

  • try doing that on windows lol

  • Error LOOOOL

  • @Kazaskater123 Not a good statement, what is the point of deleting a file then? I can see bigger problems with keeping files in my computer than deleting them.

  • @gevelegian Try using a Mac before commenting. Simple control click a file and click "Delete all iterations of this file" and it's gone permanently. Time Machine saved me countless times and storage is so cheap now it's a crime NOT to backup (even on a PC).

  • @Kazaskater123

    I was backing up with Time Machine and my Mac shut down, so I only got a tenth of the files backed up. I can't believe Apple doesn't let Snow Leopard shut down with Safari running (very annoying) BUTt it will shut down with TM running! How stupid!

    The new PathFinder 5.6.8 is amazing! and it's what's the SLeopard Finder should have been by now!! Oh well, maybe someday..

  • okay, so im planning on getting a NEW macbook, is it right to use an external harddrive and time machine for later recovery on my new macbook, so i get the exact same setup on my new mac as on my old mac?

  • My Time Machine drive cost a crapload of money, but it definitely has saved my life a few times when it comes to me accidentally deleting folders and important files. :D

  • ya same, except I back up to a partition I made on my macbook's internal drive.

  • ^ That's pretty clever.

  • you know that's not really a good idea because if your hard drive craps out on you.. well there goes your back up. But then again Apple gives you the option of turning basically any drive into a time machine drive so you can do as you wish. I'm just saying if you want to be able to access your files if your hard drive craps out you wont be able to.

  • Well, All my important files (home movies, photos, documents) are backed up to DVDs every week, and most likely other computers on my network as well. I just use this not to prevent physical failure, but to allow me to be able to undo my deletes and/or fuck up of files.

  • ahh i see, nice thing about DVDs is that you dont have to worry about them crashing. That's nice if you have a server computer and just back everything up to that.

    I use time machine everyday since i accidentally dropped me 3 month old macbook pro about a week ago. My MBP is more susceptible to having a hard drive failure now because of that.

  • when it updates and backups after you done the external hardrive part does it make doubles onto its own hardrive or do you need the external hardrive in

  • You don't need an external drive at all. You just choose ANY drive, does not matter if it's external or like me an internal partition. The drive needs to be present in order to makes backup (automatic every hour) and to access them.

  • So you can never really clean up your hard drive? So what would be the point of deleting anything? What if you sell your Mac, could the new owner go through your stuff. Could a parent use this to spy on their child? And the most important question... why?

  • Time Machine requires a seperate drive or at least partition that you can just wipe at any time you wish.

  • So if you delete something you can get it back easily. The things you delete will be only on the backup drive but you can delete them, and you choose what not to backup.

  • do you need to buy a new drive(time capsule)? (in holland €400 (around 510 usd)) or time machine just save it on your drive in the mac?

  • you can use any usb or firewire drive dependant on size

  • Actually you can use anything. Period.

  • yeah but what if you had a drive in your mac that was 1tb and you wanted to back it up using time machine using a 250GB hard drive. it would not work!

  • Yes it would.

    A) I highly doubt that you will be using the whole TB

    B) You can exclude things from the backup. Such as movies which you can easily get back from torrents.

    C) Why would you buy such a small drive if clearly you have money for a bigger one.

  • i love the time machine. i just got a TB of memory today after i lost all of my music due to a stupid mistake. my one question is, How fast does it fill up an external harddrive?

  • It makes a backup of your entire HD the first time you set it up. From there, it makes hard links to your files which take up almost no space at all. So the only things Time Machine will back up are the files that have changed, and the files that have been added.

  • Does anyone know if time machine will backup stuff on your external hard drive as well?

  • Yes it will

  • Its hard to imagine how awesome this is until you actually loose something and are then able to retrieve it via Time Machine.

    Ah, Time Machine, where would I be without you?

  • Without a bootable OS. Obviously you can't stop deleting important files. IDIOT!!

  • Wow! Just Wow!

  • It annoys be when people compare this to windows system restore. They are completely different. One is for files the other is for programs and settings. One works by backing up to an external HD, the other makes 'restore points' on the built in HD. Prob is if you break or loose you built in HD your screwed. Therefore I wouldn't call system restore a backup system at all.

  • macs are better well f you watches this 6hats how

  • why when i put my usb it says update failed because its to large

    Whats to large???pz help

  • A usb has a small amount of space compared to a hard drive. Your mac's hard drive is normally around the 200 GB+ size, and the largest usb you can buy is a 16 GB. The Hard Drive on your mac is way to big for your usb. However, if you buy an external hard drive, you will be able to back up your system using time machine.

  • how big of External HD space do you need for running time machine?

    thanks.

  • It depends on how large your computer's hard disk is. Right click on the macintosh HD icon, and select get info. It should show you the capacity of the hard drive. Make sure your External Hard disk is at least this size.

  • So Mac's Time Machine is basically instead of deleting files, it saves them anyway. Windows System Restore (back from WinXP), actually works like this: Oops I fucked up my computer beyond repair by deleting or changing vital system files because I'm retarded, here, let me just press a button and get it all back. Woot! Now I wonder... getting back files for being retarded, or restoring your system for being retarded. Hard choice to make. Reply w/ opinions :)

  • How awesome is that? I'm increasingly favoring Macs over PCs, and I only got my first Mac two weeks ago!

  • Congratulations :) :)

    I bought one yesterday. It's very easy to backup and it works fine.

    The first backup will take hours (really, hours) to complete, but then it will be working perfectly :)

  • Yeah, genius, except Apple's software not only does it quicker, easier, and with a much simpler system (and, yes, I've used both), but Microsoft's genius system won't help you if your hard drive corrupts. And it doesn't take much to corrupt a hard drive.

  • Apple's software undeletes accidentally removed files, it's for idiots that don't know how to use a recycling bin. System Restore actually restores corrupted programs, and even re-installs them if you deleted them completely, it's really a charm.

  • No, I'm gonna have to agree with program1357 on this one. Dont take me wrong, System Restore is useful, but I do think that Apple has done a bit better with this, all though there's always room for improvement!

  • Yeah, But when you do a system restore you also get back all the other crap you may have deleted since the last restore point. Causing you to have to redelete the stuff you didnt want to get back, as well as it reverting all documents that you have changed back to their prior condition, Thus making you loose potentially important data. Don't forget about the amount of time it takes to do the system restore itself, Plus forces you to restart your computer and wait yet again for it to boot up.

  • Probably the easiest software backup program ever made. And it's visually elegant at the same time. <3

    Mac forever.

  • Beautiful :D

    I Don't have an external hard drive so I can't use Time Machine yet..

  • Er... it compresses the Time Machine spare copy files alot. I've been reading somewhere that it is somewhere between 54% and 87% less space using, depending on the size and type of the file.

  • Still it's an AWFUL waste of space! Backupping is for people who lives are motivated by FEAR, not LOVE or JOY or something more positive.

  • Well, say you bought Adobe Flash CS3 Extended edition. $1,000 program, right there. Quarter of my every-other-week paycheck. Wouldn't you be upset if you lost it? But you are right in some ways, backing up on your hard drive sucks, so purchase some online space and save it there.

  • No... backing up your important content is just smart. Stupid are those who don't backup and have a little accident. All gone!

  • It's an awful waste of space... until you lose everything you've been working on for the past three years.

  • I used to think the same thing...until I lost my entire portfolio due to a hard drive failure. I LOVED that portfolio, and failed my graduation project because I had none. Had to take my final semester over again. So yeah, it sucks to live by fear, but it's healthy to have a little in the real world. Because anything can happen, and if you don't prepare for it, the only one responsible is you. As for it being a waste of space...3 words: External Hard Drive. The only way Time Machine works.

  • SO the backing up of important files like staff payrolls is a waste of time ?. i suppose if the company who pays your salary lost your information and you didnt get paid at the end of the month you wouldnt mind !! Just be Happy ..Idiot

  • Who said payrolls are important files? There is no company who pays my salary btw. But of course I wouldn't mind. I do not attach myself to material possessions, or get afraid and work from fear if monetary matters change. Money is an artificial illusion, and you believe in it blindly.. I rather be a love-based idiot than a fear-based work-drone that considers payrolls important files. Besides, people who backup payrolls are usually motivated by fear anyway. So my point stands.

  • You have a computer..is that not a material possession...? you seem to be attached to it. I bet you grow your own vegetables as well..How did you buy your computer..I suppose you had it supplied by the state everyone else pays for..Get Real

  • I'm just amazed we got from talking about a new app to the material possessions of the world.

    For those MacBreak fans among us, "Rathole!"

  • I was wondering about that too...

  •  Macintosh. "The computer for the rest of us."

  • how did u do that symbol, hehe idk but i have a mac so i should be able 2

  • I agree. Therefore, Mac is better, faster, smarter, stronger.

  • WINDOWS SUCKS!

  • i agree

  • ya u right

    i most have been drunk or something

  • Honestly after seeing this video why all the hate towards Apple??

  • because windows got system restore that dose a better job so if something goes wrong with ur computer u can fix it or u can bring back some files u lost that time machine only helps with windows like my pictures and my music not all the computer and u can only use it if u got a drive

  • How long does it take you to use System Restore?

    Can you go back "into" time and pluck one file?

    Mac OS X Leopard is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!

    Microsuck wishes they thought of Time Machine.

    I have totally switched to Apple. I used PC for 15 years and I'm glad I switched. Thank God for Apple.

  • Well first of, "when something goes wrong with your computer" is usually a Windows only experience. And believe it or not, OS X is a whole lot stabler and only very rarely things get so fucked up that it doesn't work anymore (never even heard of it happening though).

    Secondly, System restore is crap and doesn't even always work. The only reason you have to use it is because Windows itself (or malware of course) fucked something up.

    + System restore isn't file specific, and time consuming.

  • that's cool but i'm an ubuntu user not a windows

    i left windows a year a go

  • No, that's not correct. I use time machine and it backs up my entire system as well. How do I know this? I checked in the backup folder on my external drive. There it is, "Home" folder. With the system and everything. All files, the entire system. With Time machine you are secure.

  • I backup my old mac and than when I bought a new mac.. all I had to do was just plug in my external hard drive and Time Machine did its magic :) tadaan

  •  Think Different.

  • hope Microsoft can make something similar to this :( i want a MacBook, but I already gotsa NEW Acer laptop with Vista. =/

  • nice

  • TonayD that why they make Time Capsule

  • The first demo of Time Machine was back in the 2006 Apple WWDC

  • He didn't mention that if that drive where Time Machine keeps its backups fails, you will loose that "Important Doc" for ever.

  • Thats why they made Time Capsule

  • Chances are, both disks won't fail at the same time and you'll be all set.

  • Figataaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!

  • Time Machine for the Mac is really easy to use!

    I guess that Vista is average, but Leopard beats it by miles!

  • Here's my question. Time Machine (TM) seems great for restoring individual files or a previous version of it. But when the entire hard drive on the Mac fails and you need to get a new hard drive and reinstall OSX, won't TM have problems restoring everything, because it thinks the machine with the new hard drive and new version of the OSX is different? My question is whether you can re-link the Time Machine drive to the rebuilt machine and have it do a complete restore? Will this work?

  • Just boot from OS X DVD, then let time machine to restore entire computer.

  • Hello, muvidz. That sounds easy. My old drive has OSX 10.4 on it, and time machine would not accept it. I guess you can't upgrade to Leopard 10.5 and get the info and settings from the old backup drive too. I tried, it didn't work. I saw an option for pulling in settings from a connected mac or backup drive, but even though it saw the removeable drive, it wouldn't take the settings and anything else from it.

  • First, time machine obviously cannot keep track of stuff you had while running OSX 10.4, because time machine was not a feature on 10.4. Secondly, you can configure the time machine to backup all your stuff to an external hard drive, and it is recommended to do so, so as if your hd goes to hell, all the stuff you had is still on the backup disk. And I don't think there's any problem with restoring all the stuff on a new/reconstructed mac.

  • Hello Angelus, I didn't expect that Time Machine would keep track of things that were on my old 10.4 OS. You obviously misunderstood my question and point. All I wanted to do was pull the settings over from my backup drive, such as bookmarks and other connfiguration things. According to what I read about the install, it is possible to connect to Macs together and do that, for example like if I bought a new laptop and want to transfer the settings over from my user login.Why not a backup drive?

  • That feature probably should work, but I don't know if it's got anything to do with time machine. You should search google or around the apple website for this info.

  • Hi Angelus, I know to search Google. Naturally, I have done that. I spent an entire day doing it looking at the Apple site and countless Apple related forums and found a lot of great stuff, but no answer to that important question. I'm not saying its not there somewhere, but searches are not bringing it up.

  •  Think Different.

  • Time Machine has been frequently compared to Microsoft's Shadow Copy (or Volume Snapshot Service), because both systems involve file backup. In reality, they are not really very similar at all. Microsoft uses the background Shadow Copy service to duplicate files on the same disk.

  • Those shadow copies record a "snapshot" of the file at a given moment in time, and can be accessed by the user using Previous Versions (which shows up in the file properties viewer), or tapped into by an external network backup system. Backing up these "shadow copies" simply prevents the external backup system from running into problems trying to back up live files that may be locked by the user working on them.

  • The data backup features related to Shadow Copy are only useful if a Windows machine is running in an environment with a server backing them up. Shadow Copy is not in itself a backup system, although it can present a listing of duplicated files that were captured by the shadow copy service.

  • Without a dedicated backup system, Previous Versions only shows local shadows of a file. It does not copy files to an external disk for safekeeping, and its shadow copies can't be browsed through by the user in the file system by date or by query. Shadow Copy is certainly not an easy to use consumer backup solution (nor is intended to be), which is what Time Machine expressly is.

  • In Windows Vista, Microsoft also tied Shadow Copy into System Restore, which allows users to roll back their entire PC software install to a previous point in time. This is not a backup system either; it's a system wide undo.

  • System Restore is oriented around undoing the problems caused by installing a software title, a Windows software update, an unsigned hardware driver, or some other event that causes problems that need to be rolled back. It doesn't go back and find something lost from the past; it reverts the clock to a previous checkpoint and throws away the future from that point forward. System Restore is not even loosely related to Time Machine in what it does, how it does it, or why it exists.

  • So any dumnbass Windows fanboys should read this entire thread to get the gist of what this is. Windows Shadow Copy -Not consumer friendly -NOT a backup system -ONLY makes shadow copies of files. Not true backups -Not anywhere near Time Machine System Restore -Not a backup system -Intended for rolling back system settings to an earlier date. -Not as advanced as Time Machine -Not LOOSELY connected to Time Machine Winblows has never had ANYTHING like Time Machine. Ever.
  • Hey RockinSockin, Time Machine is not very much like the Windows recycle bin. Recycle bin is just like a giant unorganized mess, while Time Machine allows you to navigate the original file structure, which makes a big difference if you work with a lot of files and versions of those files. Recycle bin does not allow you to access different versions of the same file with the same name with different creation date, like a date snapshot would.

  • Yeah, Mac users would need this wouldn't they, cause when you delete a file in a Mac OS it's actually gone, you can't recover it or restore it like you can in windows. Honestly though, who wants their computer randomly creating copies of your shit? You'd be better off copying all your stuff to a backup drive one time and forgetting about it. Interesting feature, probably a staple for Mac users, but any Windows user wouldn't use it.

  • Time Machine can only be activated when you set it to use an external hard drive. It's not gonna slowly fill up your regular hard drive or anything. And yes, it is a good feature. If you want to retrieve a file that you may actually need now, you can retrieve it from Time Machine. And if Vista has the same thing, you'd be kissing it's ass anyway.

  • Hey..I'm not asking for an arguement, I don't like Windows either.

  • how come it doesn't take up so much hard-drive space? I heard that it saves it to your .mac account which you are allocated space on when you register your Mac, is this true?

  • It ONLY USES AN EXTERNAL HARD DRIVE!!!

  • Why would you backup a hard drive to itself? What's the point in that?

  • you back it up to an external hard-drive idiot

  • You have completely misunderstood me. I am not an idiot. I myself use time machine and was referring to the people on this page who are complaining about how you can't back up to an internal hard drive. I was illustrating how ridiculous it would be to back up an internal hard drive to an internal hard drive.