HDR-FX1 24P Stress Test

[3Bproductionz]

i thought this cam didnt have 24p

[dcvingeklipz99]

You don't have to use Cineframe 24p, In the user manual it says using Cineframe 30p will give you a better movie look then the cineframe 24. look it up.

[PS3Insight]

the quality was massively reduced because its only hq, not hd

[theguymjp]

Long live 25p.

Lol, it's much easier to work with than all of that 24p pulldown c**p.

:P

[gewooneerlijk]

this camera is awesome but the streaming quality isn,t very good

[ratkins0687]

The HDR-FX1 does not actually have a true 24p setting. It actually skips a frame with its Cineframe 24. Thats why it looks jittery on the LCD screen. The real film look is the contrast that the particular setting provides.

Personally, I'd shoot in 30 frames, or even 60, and then convert that with a filter in post production. There is no way to shoot 23.98p on this camera

[ratkins0687]

whoever rated this comment a thumbs down...I happen to own this camera. It's a fact that it does not shoot 24 frames per second. Sony has their Cineframe 24p so that consumers can "feel" professional when they use the setting. The mode drops a frame.

You must not know anything about this camera if you rated me a negative one.

[RamiroR]

REALLY?

that breaks my heart.

better stick to canon hv30 then...

=/

[enemoj]

whats 60i please tell me and how do you turn up the frame rate on the hdr fx1 the manual tells me nothing

please help obi wan your my only hope

[ratkins0687]

60i refers to 60 interlaced frames per second.

The camera does not have selectable frame rates. You could turn up the shutter speed, I suppose.

What exactly are you aiming to accomplish?

[lecochonbleu]

I love the music. What is it please? Can you say who the musical players are? They're great. Do you have the recording info?

[lecochonbleu]

I think you posted this video before YouTube allowed High Definition / High Quality publication from home cameras, or it just hasn't been selected that way.

Or the software you have used downscales the quality of the videos. It may be a program which just does that, or that is in the settings selected. Recently I edited a home high def. quality film with ArcSoft TotalMedia Extreme (Showbiz), and it downscaled the quality severely. 1440 x 1080 film became poorer than most V.G.A. def. films.

[tricofilms]

The music is by Brian Keane- it was composed for "The War That Made America" PBS television special

[lecochonbleu]

Thank you.

I realise it was pro. recording or nearly that and YouTube don't generally allow for that, or didn't so much back when you posted this.

[Desmus55]

Did this shoot in 1080i?

[DNDMAG]

wat compression did you use to post it on youtube?

[IamSofaKingRad]

whats 24p ?

[tricofilms]

It's the frame rate that traditional film shoots in. 24P = 24 frames a second (or 23.947)

[ratkins0687]

Film shoots in exactly 24p. Digital, such as a PMW-EX3 or RED One camera shoots in 23.98 frames per second, which is as close as you can get. You will see this difference in frame rate when watching a Quicktime movie trailer.

[robpoleki55]

does FX1 take memory cards? what camera do you recomend?

[ratkins0687]

no, it takes MiniDV media. Really, I recommend whatever you can afford.  At the time, solid state camera were way out of my price range, and so I bought MiniDV. I didn't actually get into HD until about a year later.

[kmike3]

can shoot 24p with this camera!??

[tricofilms]

No, it can shoot in a mock 24P mode called CineFrame24. It's alright, but not great. For this, I shot in 60i and did a 24P conversion using several software bases.

[ratkins0687]

No, its a faked 24p. Besides, film shoots in 24p, digital shoots in 23.98 frames per second.

[PaulGarafola]

Did you use any effects in post? Or is this exactly how the camera captured the images?

[tricofilms]

This is how it regularly captures images.

[ratkins0687]

was that filmed with Cineframe 24? Also, with what editing software did you capture and output?

[JDM525]

beautiful footage, fx1 always produces impressive quality

[KickThePj]

hey, fancy seeing you commenting on this video :P it is amazing!

[DreamGateStudios]

How did you squeeze the 16:9 into deeper widescreen video? Looks like u did 2:35:1?

[hfunction]

he probably just cropped it in post.

[ratkins0687]

Yeah, the FX1 films in 1.85 or 1.78:1 (this is for sure HDV). I have exported in 2.35:1 myself, but that was in post. You have to crop off some of the frame in order to do this.

[kirbysbackagain]

how do i shoot in 60i and how can i do a 2:3:3:2 pulldown on adobe premiere...this footage looks great for the fx1, please respond

[hfunction]

Well if you shoot 60i then doing a pulldown is useless, since that is what a pulldown does... matches 24p footage to 29.97 for tape.

From my tests, I found the best quality, fastest and easiest result for getting the 24p look...crazy as it sounds is shooting CF24 mode. People say it looks like crap but truthyfully its pretty good. The final product is great for the time you save by not processing 29.97i to 23.976p. U will always loose some quality by deinterlacing though.

[sybyabraham]

I have a question. Does this camera havea higher frame rate? More than 30 fps?

[tricofilms]

No, the FX1 is only 60i/1080i. If you want a camera with a higher/lower framerate, look into the Panasonic products.

[Mex0214]

50i PAL

[djmelucho]

Para cine que será mejor la ¿DVX100B o esta?, haciendo a un lado que esta es alta definición.

[KeyFilmation]

Creo que la DVX100B o A es mejor que la Sony FX1 si para cine. Sí, esta cámara es alta definición, pero la DVX100B o A va a darse mucho más para la cuesta.

[tkdx2]

fake 24p

lawl.

[coddi25]

i didnt think the sony hdr fx1 had p24 mode....

how did you do this??

[tricofilms]

The FX1 does not have true 24p, instead it shoots in CF24, which is a mimic at 60i. All I did in this was do a 2:3:3:2 pulldown in SONY Vegas.

[ratkins0687]

No, native frame rate for DV tape is 30fps, so it's a mimic of 30i, which is closest to 24 frames to begin with.

[chchaisson]

Nice video, by the way.

[chchaisson]

CineFrame is not true 24p, it's just a simulation. It doesn't look anything like 24p.

[tricofilms]

This wasn't shot in CF24. I shot it in 60i then did a 24P pulldown in post. But yeah, it still doesn't look very 24P'ish.

[bastienetnies]

go picture profile the go to pp4 settings and it says cinaframe mode, click that and set it to 24

[hoarp001]

The FX1 dosnt have 24p, it has some weird picture profile that simulates film. I was led to belive that it had 24p, and I bought one. If it really does have it and its hidden in a menu somewhere, where is it?

[ppmail]

I'd rather use it on 1080i and not loose resolution...

You can always make in "progressive" on post..

[tricofilms]

Yeah, very much true. Thanks!

[loco039]

Very good movie on 24P I`m Proud of my Sony HDR-FX1 camcorder.

[Jaxar1]

those civil war officers were hot