> If Luke and Brian had started having an affair, it would
> have been SO JUICY!
Neither Luke nor Noah has cheated yet and everyone knows that soap couples HAVE to have affairs. So it may still happen. Characters often come back, especially one as popular as Brian.
> Luke is the most adorable drunk EVER!
Yeah, that's my problem with Luke. Even when he's evil and dysfunctional, he's adorable. In other words, he can get away with murder ... literally!
OMG--Forget Noah. This is HOT! What I would do to be in Luke's place; getting taken advantage of by this older handsome suit! This made my evening and to think I had given up on ATWT because I thought this storyline with L & N was going nowhere. They gotta take this further. My dream scene: Luke undressing Brian out of his suit and tie after a long hard day. :-)
Here here! :-) Let's be honest; Brian does gay naturally. With Noah it always seemed forced, like he really was never sure if he wanted to do anything with Luke. Laurence Lau has certainly aged gracefully! :-)
1) Spontaneous but maybe Brian has wanted to do it for a while. I think when he kissed Luke on the forehead, he knew what he was going and what he wanted to do next.
2) He didn't. He just didn't react at first because he was drunk and half asleep.
3) Brian is completely gay. Totally in denial, though. I think he loves Lucinda in some way but he isn't attracted to her.
4) If she knows, I would be very surprised. I don't think Lucinda is the kind of woman who marries a gay guy not to be alone.
OMG! I haven't watch ATWT in forever and I hear Brian's a chicken hawk?! Granted, he is a cutie and could teach Luke a few things of what is to be gay or vice versa. However, in the world of soaps, Brian must have an ultimate agenda: think about it? Who would love to 'get Luke'? His hottie dad!!!! Think about it y'all!!! It's perfect drama and have Noah be a true hero and truly show Luke how much he loves him!
That was quite the scene! Wow! I still love Brian!
1. Spontaneous
2. I agree with the previous commenter after re-watching - Luke kind of did start the mouth part of the kiss - he angles his head up. I think he - well, both of them - just got caught up in the good feeling of being close to someone on that intimate level.
3. Time will tell...not sure but I'm leaning towards bi-sexual.
4. Hmmm I'm not so sure Lucinda knows this aspect of Brian. I'm gonna say no at this point.
1.while I feel Brian's been attracted to luke for a while, the kiss itself was spontanious, an attempt to comfort luke overrode his thinking.
2.Luke actually initiated the kiss. If you notice, Brian kissed Luke's forehead and cheek, and Luke then sought out Brian's mouth. It was still induced by alcohol and desperation,but...
3.Bisexual
4.Of course Lucinda knows, she's way to clever to be dooped. However I doubt she knows about his attraction to Luke.
1) It was premeditated on Brian's part. You can sort of see in his face while he's stroking Luke's hair that he's tihnking about 'something.'
2) Yes, he did. And both, I think. He was drunk, and he was hallucinating, maybe, and thought it was Noah at first because maybe he wanted so badly for it to be Noah.
3) Bi....Yeah, I don't have comments on this one. lol
4) Yes, but I think she believes he won't act on it, because he really does love her.
1) Spontaneous, but not as spontaneous as it should have been. Brian thought about, and make a desision. Even if it was only for a few seconds, it was thought out.
2) YES. Probably a mixture of both.
3) Bisexual, but still repressed.
4) No, I don't think so. I wouldn't be suprised if she did, though. Lucinda is very open.
I have no comment after having watched this mess. I really hope that ATWT doesn't go in the direction they're heading given what I've read suggests they will.
1) Was this kiss premeditated or was it spontaneous? (Luke & Brian have gone out of town together and nothing happened)
2) Did Luke reciprocate at first? If yes, did he do so because he was drunk, or was it because he was lonely and confused?
3) Is Brian gay or bisexual?
4) If #3 is yes, does Lucinda know? Keep in mind that we've never heard Brian deny being gay/bi, and that he might have been open in Chicago. I have a feeling she knows, and that their love is real.
In 1994, 1970's gay porn legend Jack Wrangler married cabaret legend, Margaret Whiting, who was 22 years older than him. He was 48 and she was 70. As far as I know they're still happily married today. She knew full well than he was gay since she first met him in one of his sex shows.
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A couple comments on your comments. First off, "Brian SHOCKS Luke'? Hell, that's an understatement! He almost gave the poor boy a heart attack! lol.
And really, Noah was the one who kissed Luke, and as Luke was not vulnerable in any way, Noah didn't take advantage of him, and as Noah kissed Luke, Luke was not taking advantage of Noah. Noah kissed him; something he had been hoping for since the day he realized he liked Noah; who can blame him for kissing back?
I didn't want to give the twist away in the title, but still wanted express the shocking nature.
> He almost gave the poor boy a heart attack!
Did Luke reciprocate at first? We're unsure.
> Luke was not taking advantage of Noah. Noah
> kissed him
You're right but Luke reciprocated. That's what I meant to say. Luke should have acted shocked. Like this kiss, it shouldn't have happened because misdirected emotions can lead to conflict.
Luke was taking advantage of the situation, and driven by his own fantasies and desires. Luke should have been shocked and told Noah that it was inappropriate because 1) Noah was still dating his friend Maddie; 2) It was the workplace; 3) Noah was too distraught to know what he wanted
I'll agree that Noah was still dating Maddie, and it was the workplace, but I can't agree that he was "too distraught to know what he wanted." Because the day before was the towel fight scene, and Noah was definately NOT distraight then, but you can definately see that if Maddie hadn't walked in, Noah would've kissed him then. So Noah wasn't kissing him because he was distraught; he had simply been interrupted the day before! :)
WATCH PART 1 FIRST. PART 1 - Looks like Van Hansis is shaving/waxing his chest again to play Luke. Van's chest (and legs) is normally hairier. It's clear that Noah still loves Luke, he just doesn't like or respect him. This is a common problem near the end of many relationships. But I agree with many of you, the writers have not explained Noah's draconian reaction.
There's really nothing more Luke can now do to atone for his fraudulent actions. Kevin has won the election, and Luke has lost virtually everything (possibly even the foundation if ATWT is realistic). The only thing I would demand of Luke now is to apologize to Kevin face-to-face, and hopefully form a friendship. This, of course, would not help with Noah since he is a bit jealous of Kevin. The question is what Noah wants Luke to do. Or is there no hope?
As for the kiss, is it any worse than the spontaneous kiss between Luke and Noah? Yes, Luke was vulnerable and not thinking straight (no pun intended), but so was Noah, who was panicking over the being late with his demanding father. Noah wasn't even sure why Win was there. And Luke had no proof that Noah was gay (or comfortable being so). At least Brian knows that Luke is gay. Regardless, both kisses were wrong, where one person was impaired, and people were driven by misdirected emotions.
As passionate as Luke and Noah's first kiss was, you think there should have been some doubt in Luke's mind as to whether or not Noah was really gay? Or bi? And you sound as if you're condeming Luke for that kiss when Noah initiated it.
At Brian's age, he obviously knows himself. He has apparently managed to control his impulses and keep his secret for 50+ years, so to take advantage of drunk Luke right after marrying Luke's grandmother was wrong on so many levels.
Yes, because Noah was very nervous and in shock over Win's mysterious arrival. Nor was it a controlled environment. Several studies on this have shown that sexual confusion is enhanced during crises.
Whether bi (or bi-curious), he was still dating Maddie so that kiss, like this one, should not have happened, especially in the workplace.
I misspoke. I meant to say that Luke shouldn't have reciprocated since he was the calm and rational one (just as Brian was the sober one here) -- and Maddie was his friend.
> He has apparently managed to control his
> impulses and keep his secret for 50+ years
We don't know this. We don't know about his life in Chicago, and Brian has never denied being gay/bi. I suspect that Lucinda may know the truth.
Luke is adorable when he's drunk. I love him completely! Love him either he is drunk or not!
Sunlautner01 4 months ago
i wanted van to act drunk and depressed all the time.he's unbelievable at these scenes.
JRRDPR 11 months ago
i hated brian since i first layed eyes on him!!!!! its true!! something just didnt feel right about him..
MsDemilovato4eva 11 months ago
luke acting like hes drunk is AMAZING!! HES SUCH A TALENTED ACTOR!!!
MsDemilovato4eva 11 months ago
that was probably the most adorable thing ever. right up until luke fucks it up and ran
AngelAdorable3 2 years ago
The thought of Luke just wandering drunk out on the street makes me sad. :( I'm glad he got through this stage.
AOleander 2 years ago
Brian is a noob
HipHopChannel09 2 years ago 2
If Luke and Brian had started having an affair, it would have been SO JUICY!
Luke is the most adorable drunk EVER!
Takerslady 2 years ago 8
> If Luke and Brian had started having an affair, it would
> have been SO JUICY!
Neither Luke nor Noah has cheated yet and everyone knows that soap couples HAVE to have affairs. So it may still happen. Characters often come back, especially one as popular as Brian.
> Luke is the most adorable drunk EVER!
Yeah, that's my problem with Luke. Even when he's evil and dysfunctional, he's adorable. In other words, he can get away with murder ... literally!
NukeOakdale 2 years ago
Luke is a big boy. I think he knows what is going on. LOL. Brian is gorgeous. Can you imagine how gorgeous he was when he was very young?
londonlass100 3 years ago 7
Brian & The Forbidden fruit. What a juicy match up.
PerspectiveSin 3 years ago 5
Luke is one lucky chap! Take that hot daddy and run :)
PerspectiveSin 3 years ago 12
Holy crap! WTF?
rekcufrats 3 years ago 3
OMG--Forget Noah. This is HOT! What I would do to be in Luke's place; getting taken advantage of by this older handsome suit! This made my evening and to think I had given up on ATWT because I thought this storyline with L & N was going nowhere. They gotta take this further. My dream scene: Luke undressing Brian out of his suit and tie after a long hard day. :-)
rfschober 3 years ago 5
high fives you* totally agree :D
slav777sacrament 3 years ago 3
Here here! :-) Let's be honest; Brian does gay naturally. With Noah it always seemed forced, like he really was never sure if he wanted to do anything with Luke. Laurence Lau has certainly aged gracefully! :-)
rfschober 3 years ago 6
hhhmmm ??? Lucinda ? or Luke? Lucinda ? or Luke ? Lucinda ? or Luke ? lolol who would you pick ?
miuzefreak 3 years ago 2
Brian is totally taking advantage of the situation Like trusted him and confided in him ...
shaniali 3 years ago 3
hot! i love luke and brian. :P
slav777sacrament 3 years ago 7
1) Spontaneous but maybe Brian has wanted to do it for a while. I think when he kissed Luke on the forehead, he knew what he was going and what he wanted to do next.
2) He didn't. He just didn't react at first because he was drunk and half asleep.
3) Brian is completely gay. Totally in denial, though. I think he loves Lucinda in some way but he isn't attracted to her.
4) If she knows, I would be very surprised. I don't think Lucinda is the kind of woman who marries a gay guy not to be alone.
honeyshuu 3 years ago
OMG! I haven't watch ATWT in forever and I hear Brian's a chicken hawk?! Granted, he is a cutie and could teach Luke a few things of what is to be gay or vice versa. However, in the world of soaps, Brian must have an ultimate agenda: think about it? Who would love to 'get Luke'? His hottie dad!!!! Think about it y'all!!! It's perfect drama and have Noah be a true hero and truly show Luke how much he loves him!
nikitabijoux 3 years ago
tivooooooooooooooooooooo!
monniearnes 3 years ago
Brian married Lucinda to cover his tracks of being gay.
CagleFan4Life 3 years ago 2
brian is kind cute, i'm not gonna lie
RelicHunter321 3 years ago 4
please get luke and noah back together. this is a mess.
webelonghere 3 years ago 6
mmm! Bryan is sexii~!
naughtyboy2012 3 years ago 2
That was quite the scene! Wow! I still love Brian!
1. Spontaneous
2. I agree with the previous commenter after re-watching - Luke kind of did start the mouth part of the kiss - he angles his head up. I think he - well, both of them - just got caught up in the good feeling of being close to someone on that intimate level.
3. Time will tell...not sure but I'm leaning towards bi-sexual.
4. Hmmm I'm not so sure Lucinda knows this aspect of Brian. I'm gonna say no at this point.
strawberrybisque 3 years ago 4
Bull .Luke was drunk. He did not initiate any kiss.If he did, he would not have been so shocked.
RelicHunter321 3 years ago 2
Wow, that sobered up Luke fast. Okay.
1.while I feel Brian's been attracted to luke for a while, the kiss itself was spontanious, an attempt to comfort luke overrode his thinking.
2.Luke actually initiated the kiss. If you notice, Brian kissed Luke's forehead and cheek, and Luke then sought out Brian's mouth. It was still induced by alcohol and desperation,but...
3.Bisexual
4.Of course Lucinda knows, she's way to clever to be dooped. However I doubt she knows about his attraction to Luke.
lawrence5584 3 years ago
And now to answer your fun questions:
1) It was premeditated on Brian's part. You can sort of see in his face while he's stroking Luke's hair that he's tihnking about 'something.'
2) Yes, he did. And both, I think. He was drunk, and he was hallucinating, maybe, and thought it was Noah at first because maybe he wanted so badly for it to be Noah.
3) Bi....Yeah, I don't have comments on this one. lol
4) Yes, but I think she believes he won't act on it, because he really does love her.
writerindisguise 3 years ago
ok, I like Luke and I like Noah and I like luke and Noah together. But this Brian thing is so soapy. I mean wow.
I doubt Lucinda knows about Brian's bi or gayness, I just really doubt it.
kelbot 3 years ago
1) Spontaneous, but not as spontaneous as it should have been. Brian thought about, and make a desision. Even if it was only for a few seconds, it was thought out.
2) YES. Probably a mixture of both.
3) Bisexual, but still repressed.
4) No, I don't think so. I wouldn't be suprised if she did, though. Lucinda is very open.
leialover1 3 years ago
I have no comment after having watched this mess. I really hope that ATWT doesn't go in the direction they're heading given what I've read suggests they will.
JustG10 3 years ago
THE BIG QUESTIONS ARE:
1) Was this kiss premeditated or was it spontaneous? (Luke & Brian have gone out of town together and nothing happened)
2) Did Luke reciprocate at first? If yes, did he do so because he was drunk, or was it because he was lonely and confused?
3) Is Brian gay or bisexual?
4) If #3 is yes, does Lucinda know? Keep in mind that we've never heard Brian deny being gay/bi, and that he might have been open in Chicago. I have a feeling she knows, and that their love is real.
lgbtTV2 3 years ago
> I have a feeling she knows, and that their
> love is real
In 1994, 1970's gay porn legend Jack Wrangler married cabaret legend, Margaret Whiting, who was 22 years older than him. He was 48 and she was 70. As far as I know they're still happily married today. She knew full well than he was gay since she first met him in one of his sex shows.
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NukeOakdale 3 years ago
"I have a feeling she knows, and that their love is real."
Well, there's an interesting idea.
BonnieHalfElven 3 years ago
A couple comments on your comments. First off, "Brian SHOCKS Luke'? Hell, that's an understatement! He almost gave the poor boy a heart attack! lol.
And really, Noah was the one who kissed Luke, and as Luke was not vulnerable in any way, Noah didn't take advantage of him, and as Noah kissed Luke, Luke was not taking advantage of Noah. Noah kissed him; something he had been hoping for since the day he realized he liked Noah; who can blame him for kissing back?
Love your opinions as always!!
writerindisguise 3 years ago
> "Brian SHOCKS Luke'? Hell, that's an
> understatement
I didn't want to give the twist away in the title, but still wanted express the shocking nature.
> He almost gave the poor boy a heart attack!
Did Luke reciprocate at first? We're unsure.
> Luke was not taking advantage of Noah. Noah
> kissed him
You're right but Luke reciprocated. That's what I meant to say. Luke should have acted shocked. Like this kiss, it shouldn't have happened because misdirected emotions can lead to conflict.
NukeOakdale 3 years ago
> Luke was not taking advantage of Noah
Luke was taking advantage of the situation, and driven by his own fantasies and desires. Luke should have been shocked and told Noah that it was inappropriate because 1) Noah was still dating his friend Maddie; 2) It was the workplace; 3) Noah was too distraught to know what he wanted
> who can blame him for kissing back?
Maddie. :)
NukeOakdale 3 years ago
....Well Maddie is biased. XD
I'll agree that Noah was still dating Maddie, and it was the workplace, but I can't agree that he was "too distraught to know what he wanted." Because the day before was the towel fight scene, and Noah was definately NOT distraight then, but you can definately see that if Maddie hadn't walked in, Noah would've kissed him then. So Noah wasn't kissing him because he was distraught; he had simply been interrupted the day before! :)
writerindisguise 3 years ago
Horrible, don't touch Luke!!!
angelikgg 3 years ago
WATCH PART 1 FIRST. PART 1 - Looks like Van Hansis is shaving/waxing his chest again to play Luke. Van's chest (and legs) is normally hairier. It's clear that Noah still loves Luke, he just doesn't like or respect him. This is a common problem near the end of many relationships. But I agree with many of you, the writers have not explained Noah's draconian reaction.
NukeOakdale 3 years ago
There's really nothing more Luke can now do to atone for his fraudulent actions. Kevin has won the election, and Luke has lost virtually everything (possibly even the foundation if ATWT is realistic). The only thing I would demand of Luke now is to apologize to Kevin face-to-face, and hopefully form a friendship. This, of course, would not help with Noah since he is a bit jealous of Kevin. The question is what Noah wants Luke to do. Or is there no hope?
NukeOakdale 3 years ago
As for the kiss, is it any worse than the spontaneous kiss between Luke and Noah? Yes, Luke was vulnerable and not thinking straight (no pun intended), but so was Noah, who was panicking over the being late with his demanding father. Noah wasn't even sure why Win was there. And Luke had no proof that Noah was gay (or comfortable being so). At least Brian knows that Luke is gay. Regardless, both kisses were wrong, where one person was impaired, and people were driven by misdirected emotions.
NukeOakdale 3 years ago
As passionate as Luke and Noah's first kiss was, you think there should have been some doubt in Luke's mind as to whether or not Noah was really gay? Or bi? And you sound as if you're condeming Luke for that kiss when Noah initiated it.
At Brian's age, he obviously knows himself. He has apparently managed to control his impulses and keep his secret for 50+ years, so to take advantage of drunk Luke right after marrying Luke's grandmother was wrong on so many levels.
BonnieHalfElven 3 years ago
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> As passionate as Luke and Noah's first kiss
> was, you think there should have been some
> doubt in Luke's mind as to whether or not
> Noah was really gay?
Yes, because Noah was very nervous and in shock over Win's mysterious arrival. Nor was it a controlled environment. Several studies on this have shown that sexual confusion is enhanced during crises.
Whether bi (or bi-curious), he was still dating Maddie so that kiss, like this one, should not have happened, especially in the workplace.
NukeOakdale 3 years ago
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> you sound as if you're condeming Luke for
> that kiss when Noah initiated it
I misspoke. I meant to say that Luke shouldn't have reciprocated since he was the calm and rational one (just as Brian was the sober one here) -- and Maddie was his friend.
> He has apparently managed to control his
> impulses and keep his secret for 50+ years
We don't know this. We don't know about his life in Chicago, and Brian has never denied being gay/bi. I suspect that Lucinda may know the truth.
NukeOakdale 3 years ago