@dinosmashify Thats nothing I used to work with a Japanese Peruvian. I loved going to Mexican joints with the guy when they see this Asian bust out with perfect Spanish.
My friend is named Maya!:( she thinks the Mayan are soooooooo great but I like the axis better! She just likes the Mayan people because her name is maya!!!!!!!!!!!
@blakefoster937 is it too confuseing for your rascist american mind to understand that chinese people can be born in austrailia?... thats why you republican nazis always think jews have tainted blood even tho its a religion, not a race lol
The media which as we all know are controlled,Why are they so afraid of this information.I see it as staying in control,so when they arrive they(those in control)can show the Old Ones all they have done and how important they are and the rest of us is either food for them or something to wipe of the bottom of their giant feet.
But we will have to wait and see.I plan to move in land more.
All that is hidden or lost will be revealed and used again in their Honor.
Has anyone correlated on the time that this planet X left our solar system to the down fall of all these great and wondrous humongous cities??
I figure once this planet does come into out neighborhood they are going to be amazed at what they find, if they don't already know by now, what with the countless of scouts that are being documented before they arrive.
And the pollution they have to live in when they come back to reclaim this planet and all of us.
What are they talking about Shibalba like that for? As if the Mayans had no idea what they thought Shibalba was? They picked a dying star in the sky as Shibalba, it's quite clear what the physical representation of that place was. Whoever this news reporter is, or whoever put together those facts, is quite uneducated in regards to ancient Mayan culture and beliefs.
@katsumorymoto well Americas only how it is today because of the English so technically were all Brits plus we did conquer most of the world so everyone somehow will be partly British ( also listen to America by Rammstein I just fits your statement brilliantly )
I for one am a skeptic. There's no evidence WHATSOEVER that any other culture besides America has ever existed. Why won't you people get an education? Clearly, this is an elaborate scam to steal your money. Do some research first, grab a history textbook, and you'll learn the truth: that America is the only country in the world and that everyone on the planet lives in America.
@Sebaztien1 Yes, thank you for being one of the few who can detect sarcasm in text form. My formula for this sort of thing is: esoterism, lies, discrediting, mockery, and projection all packed into one all-out assault on what people think is real. When someone clicks on my profile and reads my blog, perhaps they can begin to understand my frustration with the amount of credibility certain corrupt media forms are granted, just for following a simple trolling formula that can apply to everything..
correct fishgirl15, but there are also good dive story sites on the net. my favorite is the myscubastory site. they have real dive accident stories and a collection of videos too! Type myscubastory intogoogle and its the first result - :)
All you people are confusing the Mayans and the Aztecs. The Spaniards conquered the Aztecs. The Mayan culture had dies off by then and anyone left at who descended from the Mayans was being conquered by the Aztecs. The Aztecs thought that the Spaniards were god because the have had predicted the return of Quetzalcoatl (sp). There was a mass killing of the indigenous people but most of the deaths of the indigenous people were due to the lack of immunity to the diseases the Spaniards carried.
@m149598 The incas were native to south america. they were different people than the mayans and aztecs. They lived in what now is modern day Peru. and they extended all up into Ecuador down to Chile. They were conquered by Pizarro and his men. But most of the death of them were also due to the spread of small pox which native people weren't immune to like the Spanish. and at the time the empire was going through a war in itself.
@schizoidchimp the aztecs are my ancestors not yours you think your gonna know more about them than me.hahahaha.stick to researching your ancestors from the caucaus caves stupid white boy.
@aztec714ok just because you're mexican doesn't mean you know squat about what "your ancestors" believed in or not. also my ancestors aren't from the "caucaus" (you mean "caucasus"). stupid brown boy
@aztec714ok More often then not ancestral histories have been obscured and obfuscated by wishful mythologies and bad interpretation. A lot of bias is also frequently involved. Just because you perhaps are part of some genetic lineage, also does not mean yo posses special knowledge or rights regarding such histories. You could obviously have a proper science based interest in this subject, but you last sentence makes me question that possibility. Remember, Forefather myths are just religion.
native americans are so much more interesting and civiliized than australian aborigines. i find it so fucked up how americans mexicans canadians and whatever seem to be so interested in australian aborigines and yet they have there own much more interesting and technologically advanced natives. australians aborigines arn't civilised they have no society and there technology doesn't exist.
Can those 2 assholes please shut the fuck up, I mean Jesus Christ they've been arguing on this video for a month for what? So they could tell their friends "yup totally won this YouTube argument, took me a whole month"
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW THE MAYANS THOUGHT IT WAS THE UNDERWORLD WHEN THEY CANT EVEN FUCKING READ THEIR OWN LANGUAGE.
fucking idiots just want to say stupid shit like this to make their stories more interesting and disregard the actual people they're talking about who went though a GENOCIDE BY SPANISH CONQUISTADORS AND EUROPEAN INVADERS.
@MANAUIAkioku 1º get your facts right, mayan culture ended long before the spanish conquerors came, 2º a genocide happened in Argentina, EUA etc. what happened in mexico with the Aztecs(not mayans) and the spaniards was a cultural blend, spaniards mixed with the aztecs (not in a legit marriage) they taught them the catholic religion in a way they would understand, and many things came out of this blend such as tacos, posadas, piñatas. i am not saying they were nice but it was'nt a genocide.
@Cheerleadersrock13 1º Just because the classic period in mayan history ended doesn't mean they ceased to exist.
2º not a genocide when the population went from 25 million to 5 million in a hudred years? haha. the christians just TAUGHT them christianity when you had to be converted or else you were not considered a human being?
3º if you knew your geography you would know that much of the mayan nation exists in south mexico
@MANAUIAkioku ! 1º one of the main mysteries of that culture, scarcity and diseases started, but no one has been able to tell what happened to them, they seem to have vanished (some say: "taken by Aliens")
2yeah the population decreased a lot: indians died because of european diseases, they were used as slaves and weren't strong enough and spaniards started mixing (rape) Indian women so mesitzos were born instead of indians, later many other castes were formed becasue of the crazy blending
@MANAUIAkioku so yeah some were killed, some were treated brutally spaniards were mean perpotent and unfair, i am not defending them, but it wasn't a genocide
3º I know geography I HAVE BEEN TO SOUTH MEXICO (quintana roo yucatán) i have visited the pyramids, talked to the mayan decendants and they can't say much about the mayan culture (something archeologist haven't said) What happened was that the mayan empire? ended, because the people died, the few that were left blended with other groups
@Cheerleadersrock13 SOME WERE KILLED? when in history has a disease accidentally killed 95% of the poluation of 26 million square miles? when the black plauge hit europe, did all the europeans ACCIDENTALLY loose all of their languages to the muslims? Did the muslims just TEACH europeans their religion.
why dont u learn the history about how people were forced to forget their language, how the priests BURNED THOUSANDS OF THOUSANDS OF BOOKS because they thought it was a devils language.
@MANAUIAkioku oviously no, of course spanish conquerors were harsh i am not defending them, they forced indians to work as slaves, the raped indian women, they were oviously CONQUERING the Aztecs, not politely asking them to hand in their land and forget their culture without fighting, but it WASN'T A GENOCIDE. and pelase read I didn't say that the disease killed them all, but diseases, harsh treatment and MESTIZAJE
@MANAUIAkioku with mestisaje mny new castes were created (casitza, lobo que salta para atras, mulato, sambos, msitzos, etc...) so many indian women gave birth to a mestizo, not an indian, so yeah Indian population decreased A LOT, but not because spanish people killed them all, spanish conquerors in mexico didn't wanted only land, they wanted to actually conquer the people too.
@Cheerleadersrock13 you realized that the population DECREASED, then entire population DECREASED, not just the indian population.
by your logic, the population would have stayed the same or increased.people were dying from lack of medical care, lack of money, lack of food. mercenaries who knew nothing but how to kill from 800 years of fighting the moors, you think the spanish inquisition just suddenly stopped in spain? this RACIST killing of the indigenous people still continues today
@MANAUIAkioku 1 i said that there were other things that were killing people (slavery, diseases, and of course the spanish "reign" was based on fear they oviously killed in order to feed the terror in the people (but it wasn't a genocide)
@MANAUIAkioku racist killing indigenous people is not an issue (well not in mèxico) something that is not written is that the indigenous (ethnic and marginated) people are too proud to even look at you, they pretend they do not even speak spanish, the only ones that talk to you about their custums are the children. there is a lot of racism mixed w/classismo though, when sombody is "indian looking" people asusme they lack education, manners and class (sometimes they do) and they reject them.
@Cheerleadersrock13 the point was to kill the "indian" and oppress the "indian" and destory the "indian" from history, yet it wasn't genocide. that makes perfect sense
@MANAUIAkiokuhat wasn't the point, some indians were treated brutally and died(slavery) because they weren't as strong as the african, some got sick and oviously died for th crappy medical care they had, some were killed by tight fisted spaniards either to scare the others and make them summit to or because they pissed them off.
@MANAUIAkioku A genocide is the extermination of a race, Indians still exist, 12% of mexico's population are Indian and out of the 50+% of mestizos at least in 60% the indian blood is very prominent, enough for them to be paractically indian. About 65% of mexico population is "race of bronze" So if had it been a genoicde that wouldn't have been possible.The Indian took a rather large part in the Independece, had it been a genocide as it was in US that wouldn't have been possible.
@MANAUIAkioku spaniards never had in mind a genocide, they wnated to conquer, not just to own the land, if they only wanted the land they wouldn't have blended and they wouldn't have sent church people to teach the indians their religion. you are just planning on insist on a genocide (seems like you are just guided by goverment approved books that tell only half the truth in order to feed social resentment and feed patriotism, instead of books written by actual historians)
@Cheerleadersrock13 OHHH so the mexican government was on my side the whole time. they want people to know that their government committed horrible atrocities and has been constantly taking land from indigenous people. that makes complete sense. thats why all the PRI memebers are indigenous people. its a conspiracy. that almost sounds just as insane as someone saying that the united states has been backing the black community to empower themselves
@MANAUIAkioku nooo but they want to create patritism, and they want to keep social resenment so they say spaniards ar mean and nothing else, and indiigenous people were good, poor is good rich is bad, thats how they get votes from the ignorant, telling them they will take money from the rich and give it to the poor when in the end the goverment just steals from the goverment, but they need to keep people ignorant for thet and feed social resenment and patriotism, they make fake heros and such
@Cheerleadersrock13 Social resentment towards spaniards when the official language is spanish? the major religion is spanish? if the goverment wants to create an idea of poor vs rich why did they assassinate colosio in 94? why did they open fire on students during the 68 summer olymics? so getting votes has nothing to do with having complete control over the labor unions? why would it matter even who the people vote for anyway when they can just change the votes themselves?
@MANAUIAkioku yo know whatever i am just getting tired of you 1º acting like you know everything, when i live what i say everyday, i live it, i don't read it, i don't watch it on tv I LIVE IT
2º you are just going out of topic, my point was mayans didn't went through a genocide they didn't even got to know the spaniards at all, secondly there are no mayan desendant in mexico that culture ended in 300 ad the people who wete left just blended in with other cultures
@MANAUIAkioku oh and wuick thing if there is no social resentment towads spaniards why did my grandfather got stoned and punched every september 16th he left his house, if they want to create the idea of poor vs rich why did the mexico city governor took the poor people to an expensive neighboorhood for them to see the houses in 06 (a lot closer to date than 94) they open fire the students on october because they didn't wanted other countries to see a darker side of mexico
@MANAUIAkioku if changing the votes was soooo easy (because in the end civilians are the ones that count the votes) they wouldn't have had to fake an accident of two trucks that carried the votes to IFE
@Cheerleadersrock13 you say the vote is so important yet for 70 years whoever the last president nominated became the president, without any variation. only after zedillo was there a PAN president elected. you talk about mexican nationalism, what about white supremacy? what about how everyone knows who Leonardo da vinchi is or who shakespeare is, but when it comes to any other race its either something negative like dictator, or they cant name anyone at all?
@MANAUIAkioku yeah but do you really know how the pri stayed all that time in the power, by abusing the ignorance and need of the people not so much changing votes, i agree theres nothing more disfunctional that mexican politics but they aren't bad enough for someone to change the votes as they please. And what does white supremacy in the world has to do with this it exisits ( not as radically as you put it ) but do not take your anger against society here.
@Cheerleadersrock13 your whole argument is that learning indigenous things is somehow nationalistic. that it somehow helps the government to know that their country is based on genocide. you dont even realize that you're using technicalities to justify your deinal. "well those werent mayans" "well i don't consider that a genocide even though a massive amount of people die" you should listen to yourself, it comes off racist. you sound like a nazi party member trying to deny the jewish holocaust.
@MANAUIAkioku no thats not what i was saying, my only point is that mayans lived in the very south of mexico (which tecnicaly is north, because of the shape of mexico) and the culture ended in the300 AD; while the Mexicas(the ones that genocide or not were the ones that were conquered by the spaniards) were located in the valley of mexico ans their culture started in the 900, so simply mayans werent conquered by the spanish
@MANAUIAkioku you are quoting me, and i didn't say that you assumed i menat that (which is rude), and in mexico a genocide din't occur because a genocide has to be sistematic(according to a fixed plan), and the spaniards killed just enough people to acomplish their goal which wasn't to kill everyone and take the land. And it truly bothers me you sying it was a genocide instead of mestisaje because thats what makes my cultue and my blood so rich and varied and special
@MANAUIAkioku i am not denying white supremacy, it has exisited since forever, but the fact that there is white supremacy doesn't mean a genocide happened in a country, it was a conquest not a genocide
@Cheerleadersrock13 White supremacy has not existed forever, its something that was created recently within this millennium with ideologies such as the eugenics movement and the nazi movement that followed. It seems you underestimate white supremacy quite a bit, and cant seem to recognize that, not some, but just about all of the information prior to the spanish arrival was lost.
@Cheerleadersrock13 It seems as though you have absolutely no sympathy for the indigenous people, you say things like its "my own culture" or that you know how the people because your maid is indigenous.... yet its like all you're trying to accomplish is desensitization of the amount of death these people went through with your technicalities of what you consider a genocide which aren't even true. you made up that definition. And the fact that you believe no one can be a mayan decent.
@MANAUIAkioku i have symphathy for certain indigenous people, but there are perjudices (like yours) towards white people in mex, my granpa got stoned and beat for being white-spanish, my brothers and my acting career didn't work because we weren't "mexican looking" , etc...
@MANAUIAkioku i like indigenous people they are loyal to themselves, are nice and polite, have great custums and art, what i hate is the way they are ALWAYS portrayed as the victims in the situation (by the "white goverment" 4 their own interests) they are quite often, but someones sking color or asendance shouldn't establish the morality of their acts, when sometimes theya re also victims..
@MANAUIAkioku indigenous people were used as slaves, their homes were taken away, they were foreced to forget their beliefs, their culture, oviously many fought tried to kill and get rid of the spaniards and were killed, but it wasn't a genocide, had it been the country would have been shaped quite differently, i didn't made that definiton up, i looked in my history book, a dictionary, and even wikipedia.
@MANAUIAkioku i do not believe nobody can be a mayan decendant but it is stupid to think that mexican people have to speak mayan and that the mayan descendants were conquerd by the spaniards, when the mayan culture ended around 300 AD, the few mayans left just blended with other groups, their culture and lnguage were lost in more than a thousand years. so there are no direct mayan descendants
@Cheerleadersrock13 mayan culture ended at 300 ad yet they find mayan codices wirtten much earlier, so strange isnt it. theres no direct mayan decedents despite the fact that all of lower mexico and guatemala was considered part of the mayan empire. and it just makes SOOO much more sense to assume interpretations from white culture, which were originally middle eastern and african, as correct and absolute a instead of just saying that they do just dont know.
@MANAUIAkioku how the codices that were written earlier have to do with the culture ending in 300 AD? i, there are no direct mayan decendants becasue only few were left (not enough to survve alone) their only choice was to blend with other groups. people study and work ages to give those interpretations, no one is taking them as absolute, but as pretty accurate. and you said "THEY CANT EVEN FUCKING READ THEIR OWN LANGUAGE." it is not their language mayan language was forgotenn, and that was rude
@MANAUIAkioku no i am saying that ta culture may last ages so the factt that some codices were written many years bc doesn't relate to the fact that hte mayan culture ended in 300 ad, i said that the interpretations of the mayan writtings are not tken as absolute, but as quite accurate because many people study years in orther to give those interpretations,
@MANAUIAkioku now you are absolutlely nonsense, not partially as you were b4 i don't get you, just keep your mistaken knowledge an opinions to yourself cause you're talking without a logic
@Cheerleadersrock13 So you saying that mayan culture ended 300 ad yet agreeing that codices made a thousand of years later are still mayan is not a contradictio?. and me not logical? Its somehow logical to think that the christians just came here and taught people their language, oh it was a little bit violent, but most people were willing to give up their culture that they've been practicing for hundreds of years. they're going to burn all their books on accident too? that's completely logical
@MANAUIAkioku i never said that READ b4 saying things you said "mayan culture ended at 300 ad yet they find mayan codices wirtten much earlier, so strange isnt it" i said: "how the codices that were written earlier have to do with the culture ending in 300 AD?" so oviously i am not agreeing on that. And i never stated that that way i simply feel we are going nowhere your mind is too small and narrow that you read what you want instead of whats written.
@Cheerleadersrock13 are there mayan codices written after 300ad? and if not what are the culture of the codices found in those area that were written after 300ad.
@MANAUIAkioku i never said there were codices written after 300ad and if there are probably not in south mexico, because the only history i have studied (deeply) its the mexican one, and after doing some research i figured that in other places of central america a weaker and oviously less great part of the mayan culture remained, b4 you say sth i am not contradicting myself i still say that there are no direct mayan descendants in mex, and there is no obligation on mexican people to speak mayan.
@MANAUIAkioku those codices were found by conquerors in caves and such except for one which was taken away from a group that was formed after the mayan fall that had certain knowledge of the mayan culture
@Cheerleadersrock13 So you're saying its a 100% fact that those codices could have never been made by people who where previously considered mayan, and they could have never known about this place, which is being claimed to be the greek underworld for the mayans by NTD World News.
@MANAUIAkioku sad tht you keep putting words in my mouth just to "be right" or to say " i am contradicting myself" or sth. On the contrary i am saying those codices might have been written b4 the myan culture ended, or by myan descendants, still the myan language was forgotten therfore you cnt say : "HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW THE MAYANS THOUGHT IT WAS THE UNDERWORLD WHEN THEY CANT EVEN FUCKING READ THEIR OWN LANGUAGE." i am arguing with that, not defending the whole underworld thing
@Cheerleadersrock13 Its impossible for them to be written before 300ad if that's what you're saying. they were carbon dated for thousands of years after your 300ad mark, around 1200ad.
You are implying that that before the genocide or "cultural blend" that its impossible for anyone to have had any sort of knowledge of these sites or mayan writing/history. and yes you are implying that because your whole argument is that all knowledge was lost after 300ad
@MANAUIAkioku i am not implying all knowledge was lost after 300 Ad i am implying that after 1700 years have passed the knowledge was actually lost so nobody speaks mayan which gives you no right to say : HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW THE MAYANS THOUGHT IT WAS THE UNDERWORLD WHEN THEY CANT EVEN FUCKING READ THEIR OWN LANGUAGE." and i am not implying that your narrow mind is believing that i implied that. And what i am saying mayan people lived passed 300 ad, but there are none todate
@Cheerleadersrock13 Oh wow really? Ok give me the evidence that says there are none to date and that there were absolutely no people speaking mayan before the spanish arrival.
@MANAUIAkioku idk if there were people speking mayan before the spanish arrival, but i know there are none to date there is no need of giving evidence just going to south mexico and talking to the infigenous people there, they tell you they do not speak mayan, besides if someone spoke mayan we would have saved whole lot of trouble. There is atronomic, medical, and whole lot of knowledge waiting to be desiphered. Still evidence or no evidence gives you no right to be as rude as you were
@Cheerleadersrock13 You revealed that you have personal grudges against the indigenous people as though they are the oppressors, and you are the victim despite the fact, that whites own the state and have been killing indigenous people for centuries. You claim that it is part of your culture yet it seems like the only reason you study is to bring up this ridiculous antagonism against indigenous people. Why should i take you seriously when you dont even have evidence for your first argument?
@MANAUIAkioku i never revealed i have any issues against the idigenous people, i am against the believe white=mean, idigenous=good, i am not the victim but only because my skin is white and i have some spanish, vasc, and italian asendance i am treated differently (even though i am mixed race, mostly white i have to admit but still...). So i am not against indigenous people, i am against people that think like you and bring "ridiculous antagonism" towards white people...
@Cheerleadersrock13 oh of course! we should never think that! you are so right. people have been portraying whites as the bad guys this whole time and the indigenous people were always the good guys. darn those indigenous people and their privileges. they need to learn their place! this is the white mans country! they should never think of themselves as better then whites! NEVER!!!
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Herlaping 2 weeks ago
I was way more shocked that the new anchor had an Australian accent :| was not ready for that
skaught911 1 month ago
@skaught911 HAHAH SAME.
TheHihi555 2 weeks ago
they might disappeared there
LebistarRepublic 1 month ago
Look out for evolved blind mutant things.
TheKirbyxox 1 month ago
@TheKirbyxox What movie was that from, again?
AthleteUnited 1 month ago
@AthleteUnited Descent
TheKirbyxox 1 month ago
Wow, thanks.
electricfemale 1 month ago
moly,moly,moly
bullsareawsome12 1 month ago
You think THAT'S elaborate? I could probably build something like that too... on Minecraft
ipokefan4 1 month ago
five bucks says the mayans come back at 2012 like bats out of hell. A straight billion of them streaming out of caves in leopard-skins.
DASRH 1 month ago 11
@DASRH that would make an awesome movie
RUDY2295 1 month ago
@DASRH that would be freakin awesome!
Psy0psAgent 1 month ago
is that an Australian Asian? what will they think of next.
dinosmashify 2 months ago 3
@dinosmashify Thats nothing I used to work with a Japanese Peruvian. I loved going to Mexican joints with the guy when they see this Asian bust out with perfect Spanish.
Fauthal 1 month ago
shut up you're ASIAN!!!
mrdanial209 2 months ago
Why does it say "ASIA Brief" if it's in mexico..?
Severynce 3 months ago
@Severynce moronic observation.
johnwygant 3 months ago
@johnwygant Yeah, I was drunk. lmao :)
Severynce 3 months ago
@Severynce thats damn hilarious... i was drunk and hashed to the face as well hahaha
johnwygant 2 months ago
You descend into the cave...
Farsay 3 months ago
did he say shivalva??
thetruthisoutthere80 3 months ago
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thetruthisoutthere80 3 months ago
Oh god, the Water Temple exists...sort of.
CrashBandicoot68 3 months ago
justin biebers birth place?
drahunter213 3 months ago
How come the Mayans are all dead? Their knowledge didn't save them from becomming worm food.
BSmenot 3 months ago
@BSmenot
i agree dude. However, they could still be living deep inside the earth, who knows.
moparcarsonly 3 months ago
@BSmenot because everyone dies, even smart people
schizoidchimp 3 months ago
it looks like a new shooting site for the decent 3 haha
SuperJdogg77 3 months ago
Thx it wil rely help for my project thx
angellightsup1 4 months ago
Quick!!! Someone call Tomb Raider!!!!!!
wapenstilstandsonder 4 months ago 2
BE CAREFUL OF ANY SLIMY EGGS YOU GUYS
smilesthroughtheshit 4 months ago
@smilesthroughtheshit oh shit its AvP all over again
DKong100 4 months ago
WTF !! Is that means that satan had died cause of drowning? hahaha just jowking..
johnbrioso0202 4 months ago
My friend is named Maya!:( she thinks the Mayan are soooooooo great but I like the axis better! She just likes the Mayan people because her name is maya!!!!!!!!!!!
globetrotter302 4 months ago
@globetrotter302 You talk like a 5years old kid. -.-;
Mutekiwar1337 4 months ago
i found that one time... IN MINECRAFT!
luddesmurf 4 months ago 2
It's the Road To El Dorado xD
TheChainsawArtist 5 months ago 2
that's it find the predicted entrance to the underworld and send some Mexicans into to see whats what!
Draknar95 5 months ago
a) The man talking at the start has an Australian, not 'British', accent.
b) You're racist dicks.
You know who I'm talking to.
maxla88 5 months ago
Aah, those silly asian brits..
skullzrulemymind 5 months ago
@skullzrulemymind Their Australian ._.
spongebobsmokes 5 months ago
Yay for Europeans these nuttss
CutThroatah 5 months ago
he looks asian but he talks with a british accent. fuck is going on
blakefoster937 5 months ago
@blakefoster937 is it too confuseing for your rascist american mind to understand that chinese people can be born in austrailia?... thats why you republican nazis always think jews have tainted blood even tho its a religion, not a race lol
wildboy789789 5 months ago
sanctum
airpuspa 6 months ago 26
@airpuspa
haha yeah
dantemidnight0 6 months ago
"ruled by spirits" - NTD sure is a bunch of morons
Zareste 6 months ago
The media which as we all know are controlled,Why are they so afraid of this information.I see it as staying in control,so when they arrive they(those in control)can show the Old Ones all they have done and how important they are and the rest of us is either food for them or something to wipe of the bottom of their giant feet.
But we will have to wait and see.I plan to move in land more.
All that is hidden or lost will be revealed and used again in their Honor.
HMM, hearts and virgins anyone!
enigma9444 6 months ago
Has anyone correlated on the time that this planet X left our solar system to the down fall of all these great and wondrous humongous cities??
I figure once this planet does come into out neighborhood they are going to be amazed at what they find, if they don't already know by now, what with the countless of scouts that are being documented before they arrive.
And the pollution they have to live in when they come back to reclaim this planet and all of us.
I dont understand why does : cont'd
enigma9444 6 months ago
ok ,where are the underwater temples???
mugwamp4 6 months ago
What are they talking about Shibalba like that for? As if the Mayans had no idea what they thought Shibalba was? They picked a dying star in the sky as Shibalba, it's quite clear what the physical representation of that place was. Whoever this news reporter is, or whoever put together those facts, is quite uneducated in regards to ancient Mayan culture and beliefs.
jackthefrenchguy 6 months ago
spelunking is something i would not do for adventure. it brings to mind the old saying ☞ "between a rock and a hard place" ☜
MrBuckwilliam 7 months ago
@katsumorymoto well Americas only how it is today because of the English so technically were all Brits plus we did conquer most of the world so everyone somehow will be partly British ( also listen to America by Rammstein I just fits your statement brilliantly )
PBdestroyer1 7 months ago
@PBdestroyer1 man you should put your textbooks down every once in a while -_-
Sebaztien1 6 months ago
Asian guy with british accent. what the hell?
theANTMpredictor 7 months ago
@theANTMpredictor its obvious you don't get out much.
001001sith 7 months ago
I for one am a skeptic. There's no evidence WHATSOEVER that any other culture besides America has ever existed. Why won't you people get an education? Clearly, this is an elaborate scam to steal your money. Do some research first, grab a history textbook, and you'll learn the truth: that America is the only country in the world and that everyone on the planet lives in America.
katsumorymoto 7 months ago 3
@katsumorymoto Uhhh....please tell me your joking.
JobForAColton 7 months ago
@katsumorymoto hahaha ha ha hahahahaha h h h ha......oh you weren't joking?
MURKYDEEP100 7 months ago
@katsumorymoto riiiiiiight..., maybe you're the one needing some education
PsYcHoSeesYou 6 months ago
@PsYcHoSeesYou lol thats a good reply to his comment i must say
Sebaztien1 6 months ago
@katsumorymoto lol good one (if it was a joke which i think it definitely was)
Sebaztien1 6 months ago
@Sebaztien1 Yes, thank you for being one of the few who can detect sarcasm in text form. My formula for this sort of thing is: esoterism, lies, discrediting, mockery, and projection all packed into one all-out assault on what people think is real. When someone clicks on my profile and reads my blog, perhaps they can begin to understand my frustration with the amount of credibility certain corrupt media forms are granted, just for following a simple trolling formula that can apply to everything..
katsumorymoto 6 months ago
Congrats, You found Earth's Butt-Hole
THESLINGSHOOT1 7 months ago
wtf are thouse bats??? i hate bats.
1billion1deaths1 7 months ago
what hell if xibalba? :/
Iloveukatia64 7 months ago
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seasnake321 7 months ago
It seems weird with an Asian guy speaking in a British Accent
Majoraspirit 7 months ago
I think you all need some SERIOUS Anthropological education.
barretjones 7 months ago
All you people are confusing the Mayans and the Aztecs. The Spaniards conquered the Aztecs. The Mayan culture had dies off by then and anyone left at who descended from the Mayans was being conquered by the Aztecs. The Aztecs thought that the Spaniards were god because the have had predicted the return of Quetzalcoatl (sp). There was a mass killing of the indigenous people but most of the deaths of the indigenous people were due to the lack of immunity to the diseases the Spaniards carried.
barretjones 7 months ago 48
@barretjones Then who were the Incas?
m149598 7 months ago
@m149598 The incas were native to south america. they were different people than the mayans and aztecs. They lived in what now is modern day Peru. and they extended all up into Ecuador down to Chile. They were conquered by Pizarro and his men. But most of the death of them were also due to the spread of small pox which native people weren't immune to like the Spanish. and at the time the empire was going through a war in itself.
barretjones 7 months ago
@barretjones Conquistadors suck
carllito12 6 months ago 21
@carllito12 should be a t-shirt
Psy0psAgent 1 month ago
@Psy0psAgent Good idea *writes it down*
carllito12 1 month ago
@barretjones lmao no it was .....
goku21060 5 months ago
@barretjones that explains similarities between the Mayans structures and the Aztec structures.
blackserenade24 4 months ago
@barretjones the aztecs did not have a god or gods they prayed to their ancestors just like the native american indians white gods what a laugh
aztec714ok 3 months ago
@aztec714ok umm the aztecs had lots of gods, look it up
schizoidchimp 3 months ago
@schizoidchimp the aztecs are my ancestors not yours you think your gonna know more about them than me.hahahaha.stick to researching your ancestors from the caucaus caves stupid white boy.
aztec714ok 3 months ago
@aztec714ok just because you're mexican doesn't mean you know squat about what "your ancestors" believed in or not. also my ancestors aren't from the "caucaus" (you mean "caucasus"). stupid brown boy
schizoidchimp 3 months ago
@schizoidchimp You are ignorant sir.
XS7SXSNIPER 3 months ago
@aztec714ok More often then not ancestral histories have been obscured and obfuscated by wishful mythologies and bad interpretation. A lot of bias is also frequently involved. Just because you perhaps are part of some genetic lineage, also does not mean yo posses special knowledge or rights regarding such histories. You could obviously have a proper science based interest in this subject, but you last sentence makes me question that possibility. Remember, Forefather myths are just religion.
Voxnulla 3 months ago
And now i'm gonna watch Road to Eldorado.
54cocoacacoconut 7 months ago
The Mayans were smart enough to predict the end of the world and the spanish defeated them I thought they would of predicted them to come and win?
ShuffleiFaz 7 months ago
@ShuffleiFaz well, they believed that the Spanish were gods. maybe thats why they didnt win.
barretjones 7 months ago
also i'd like to state that almost ALL native language in americas have been snuffed out thx to ______.
PanVam 7 months ago
holy crap this manuer guy is a real assbag
PanVam 7 months ago
Wish they would release the DNA findings
beginization 7 months ago
ALL ADVENTURERS HAVE BEARDS
moonstrike5999 7 months ago 165
@moonstrike5999 ...and hairy asses...hahahaha
TheSpiritualhealing 7 months ago
@moonstrike5999 no time to shave
WhoUWit1000 7 months ago
@moonstrike5999 That's true! Hell, even Shia LaBeouf sprouted a little stubble after a few days travelling with Indie.
GenaTrius 7 months ago
@moonstrike5999 they dont have time to shave :P
Methos999 6 months ago
@moonstrike5999 Because they dont have a bathroom in the woods
mohamadalikazi 6 months ago
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idiotzrule 5 months ago
@moonstrike5999 And my dad wants me to shave mine >:C
RipperGand 5 months ago
@moonstrike5999
indy?
ZaxharLeheniuk 4 months ago
Spaniards are actually from the north of rajasthan. Long Live Indians and Mayas
Indiancrab 7 months ago
native americans are so much more interesting and civiliized than australian aborigines. i find it so fucked up how americans mexicans canadians and whatever seem to be so interested in australian aborigines and yet they have there own much more interesting and technologically advanced natives. australians aborigines arn't civilised they have no society and there technology doesn't exist.
AlienFirefox 8 months ago
Can those 2 assholes please shut the fuck up, I mean Jesus Christ they've been arguing on this video for a month for what? So they could tell their friends "yup totally won this YouTube argument, took me a whole month"
NeedlesOfSorrow 8 months ago
Fucking Mayan suck.
joe1969812 8 months ago
asian with an english accent, funny
wandalinna 8 months ago
The Underworld huh?, thats a pile of shit i gues.
Zoza15 8 months ago
The chupacabre killed them off, one by one.
1861CSA 8 months ago
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HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW THE MAYANS THOUGHT IT WAS THE UNDERWORLD WHEN THEY CANT EVEN FUCKING READ THEIR OWN LANGUAGE.
fucking idiots just want to say stupid shit like this to make their stories more interesting and disregard the actual people they're talking about who went though a GENOCIDE BY SPANISH CONQUISTADORS AND EUROPEAN INVADERS.
MANAUIAkioku 9 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku 1º get your facts right, mayan culture ended long before the spanish conquerors came, 2º a genocide happened in Argentina, EUA etc. what happened in mexico with the Aztecs(not mayans) and the spaniards was a cultural blend, spaniards mixed with the aztecs (not in a legit marriage) they taught them the catholic religion in a way they would understand, and many things came out of this blend such as tacos, posadas, piñatas. i am not saying they were nice but it was'nt a genocide.
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 1º Just because the classic period in mayan history ended doesn't mean they ceased to exist.
2º not a genocide when the population went from 25 million to 5 million in a hudred years? haha. the christians just TAUGHT them christianity when you had to be converted or else you were not considered a human being?
3º if you knew your geography you would know that much of the mayan nation exists in south mexico
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku ! 1º one of the main mysteries of that culture, scarcity and diseases started, but no one has been able to tell what happened to them, they seem to have vanished (some say: "taken by Aliens")
2yeah the population decreased a lot: indians died because of european diseases, they were used as slaves and weren't strong enough and spaniards started mixing (rape) Indian women so mesitzos were born instead of indians, later many other castes were formed becasue of the crazy blending
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku so yeah some were killed, some were treated brutally spaniards were mean perpotent and unfair, i am not defending them, but it wasn't a genocide
3º I know geography I HAVE BEEN TO SOUTH MEXICO (quintana roo yucatán) i have visited the pyramids, talked to the mayan decendants and they can't say much about the mayan culture (something archeologist haven't said) What happened was that the mayan empire? ended, because the people died, the few that were left blended with other groups
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 SOME WERE KILLED? when in history has a disease accidentally killed 95% of the poluation of 26 million square miles? when the black plauge hit europe, did all the europeans ACCIDENTALLY loose all of their languages to the muslims? Did the muslims just TEACH europeans their religion.
why dont u learn the history about how people were forced to forget their language, how the priests BURNED THOUSANDS OF THOUSANDS OF BOOKS because they thought it was a devils language.
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku oviously no, of course spanish conquerors were harsh i am not defending them, they forced indians to work as slaves, the raped indian women, they were oviously CONQUERING the Aztecs, not politely asking them to hand in their land and forget their culture without fighting, but it WASN'T A GENOCIDE. and pelase read I didn't say that the disease killed them all, but diseases, harsh treatment and MESTIZAJE
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku with mestisaje mny new castes were created (casitza, lobo que salta para atras, mulato, sambos, msitzos, etc...) so many indian women gave birth to a mestizo, not an indian, so yeah Indian population decreased A LOT, but not because spanish people killed them all, spanish conquerors in mexico didn't wanted only land, they wanted to actually conquer the people too.
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 you realized that the population DECREASED, then entire population DECREASED, not just the indian population.
by your logic, the population would have stayed the same or increased.people were dying from lack of medical care, lack of money, lack of food. mercenaries who knew nothing but how to kill from 800 years of fighting the moors, you think the spanish inquisition just suddenly stopped in spain? this RACIST killing of the indigenous people still continues today
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku 1 i said that there were other things that were killing people (slavery, diseases, and of course the spanish "reign" was based on fear they oviously killed in order to feed the terror in the people (but it wasn't a genocide)
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku racist killing indigenous people is not an issue (well not in mèxico) something that is not written is that the indigenous (ethnic and marginated) people are too proud to even look at you, they pretend they do not even speak spanish, the only ones that talk to you about their custums are the children. there is a lot of racism mixed w/classismo though, when sombody is "indian looking" people asusme they lack education, manners and class (sometimes they do) and they reject them.
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 the point was to kill the "indian" and oppress the "indian" and destory the "indian" from history, yet it wasn't genocide. that makes perfect sense
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkiokuhat wasn't the point, some indians were treated brutally and died(slavery) because they weren't as strong as the african, some got sick and oviously died for th crappy medical care they had, some were killed by tight fisted spaniards either to scare the others and make them summit to or because they pissed them off.
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku A genocide is the extermination of a race, Indians still exist, 12% of mexico's population are Indian and out of the 50+% of mestizos at least in 60% the indian blood is very prominent, enough for them to be paractically indian. About 65% of mexico population is "race of bronze" So if had it been a genoicde that wouldn't have been possible.The Indian took a rather large part in the Independece, had it been a genocide as it was in US that wouldn't have been possible.
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 so the jewish and armenian genocide never happened since there are still jews and armeaninans. LOL you are full of shit
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku spaniards never had in mind a genocide, they wnated to conquer, not just to own the land, if they only wanted the land they wouldn't have blended and they wouldn't have sent church people to teach the indians their religion. you are just planning on insist on a genocide (seems like you are just guided by goverment approved books that tell only half the truth in order to feed social resentment and feed patriotism, instead of books written by actual historians)
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 OHHH so the mexican government was on my side the whole time. they want people to know that their government committed horrible atrocities and has been constantly taking land from indigenous people. that makes complete sense. thats why all the PRI memebers are indigenous people. its a conspiracy. that almost sounds just as insane as someone saying that the united states has been backing the black community to empower themselves
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku nooo but they want to create patritism, and they want to keep social resenment so they say spaniards ar mean and nothing else, and indiigenous people were good, poor is good rich is bad, thats how they get votes from the ignorant, telling them they will take money from the rich and give it to the poor when in the end the goverment just steals from the goverment, but they need to keep people ignorant for thet and feed social resenment and patriotism, they make fake heros and such
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 Social resentment towards spaniards when the official language is spanish? the major religion is spanish? if the goverment wants to create an idea of poor vs rich why did they assassinate colosio in 94? why did they open fire on students during the 68 summer olymics? so getting votes has nothing to do with having complete control over the labor unions? why would it matter even who the people vote for anyway when they can just change the votes themselves?
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku yo know whatever i am just getting tired of you 1º acting like you know everything, when i live what i say everyday, i live it, i don't read it, i don't watch it on tv I LIVE IT
2º you are just going out of topic, my point was mayans didn't went through a genocide they didn't even got to know the spaniards at all, secondly there are no mayan desendant in mexico that culture ended in 300 ad the people who wete left just blended in with other cultures
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku oh and wuick thing if there is no social resentment towads spaniards why did my grandfather got stoned and punched every september 16th he left his house, if they want to create the idea of poor vs rich why did the mexico city governor took the poor people to an expensive neighboorhood for them to see the houses in 06 (a lot closer to date than 94) they open fire the students on october because they didn't wanted other countries to see a darker side of mexico
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku if changing the votes was soooo easy (because in the end civilians are the ones that count the votes) they wouldn't have had to fake an accident of two trucks that carried the votes to IFE
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 you say the vote is so important yet for 70 years whoever the last president nominated became the president, without any variation. only after zedillo was there a PAN president elected. you talk about mexican nationalism, what about white supremacy? what about how everyone knows who Leonardo da vinchi is or who shakespeare is, but when it comes to any other race its either something negative like dictator, or they cant name anyone at all?
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku yeah but do you really know how the pri stayed all that time in the power, by abusing the ignorance and need of the people not so much changing votes, i agree theres nothing more disfunctional that mexican politics but they aren't bad enough for someone to change the votes as they please. And what does white supremacy in the world has to do with this it exisits ( not as radically as you put it ) but do not take your anger against society here.
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 your whole argument is that learning indigenous things is somehow nationalistic. that it somehow helps the government to know that their country is based on genocide. you dont even realize that you're using technicalities to justify your deinal. "well those werent mayans" "well i don't consider that a genocide even though a massive amount of people die" you should listen to yourself, it comes off racist. you sound like a nazi party member trying to deny the jewish holocaust.
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku no thats not what i was saying, my only point is that mayans lived in the very south of mexico (which tecnicaly is north, because of the shape of mexico) and the culture ended in the300 AD; while the Mexicas(the ones that genocide or not were the ones that were conquered by the spaniards) were located in the valley of mexico ans their culture started in the 900, so simply mayans werent conquered by the spanish
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku you are quoting me, and i didn't say that you assumed i menat that (which is rude), and in mexico a genocide din't occur because a genocide has to be sistematic(according to a fixed plan), and the spaniards killed just enough people to acomplish their goal which wasn't to kill everyone and take the land. And it truly bothers me you sying it was a genocide instead of mestisaje because thats what makes my cultue and my blood so rich and varied and special
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 yup cause all of north and south america is just one big melting pot of happiness and theres no white supremacy what so ever
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku yeah there is but now you are stereotyping waaaaayyyy tooo much
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 oh yeah, cause the fact that 2 continents only speak 3 languages has nothing to do with white supremacy LOL
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Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku i am not denying white supremacy, it has exisited since forever, but the fact that there is white supremacy doesn't mean a genocide happened in a country, it was a conquest not a genocide
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 White supremacy has not existed forever, its something that was created recently within this millennium with ideologies such as the eugenics movement and the nazi movement that followed. It seems you underestimate white supremacy quite a bit, and cant seem to recognize that, not some, but just about all of the information prior to the spanish arrival was lost.
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 It seems as though you have absolutely no sympathy for the indigenous people, you say things like its "my own culture" or that you know how the people because your maid is indigenous.... yet its like all you're trying to accomplish is desensitization of the amount of death these people went through with your technicalities of what you consider a genocide which aren't even true. you made up that definition. And the fact that you believe no one can be a mayan decent.
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku i have symphathy for certain indigenous people, but there are perjudices (like yours) towards white people in mex, my granpa got stoned and beat for being white-spanish, my brothers and my acting career didn't work because we weren't "mexican looking" , etc...
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku i like indigenous people they are loyal to themselves, are nice and polite, have great custums and art, what i hate is the way they are ALWAYS portrayed as the victims in the situation (by the "white goverment" 4 their own interests) they are quite often, but someones sking color or asendance shouldn't establish the morality of their acts, when sometimes theya re also victims..
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku indigenous people were used as slaves, their homes were taken away, they were foreced to forget their beliefs, their culture, oviously many fought tried to kill and get rid of the spaniards and were killed, but it wasn't a genocide, had it been the country would have been shaped quite differently, i didn't made that definiton up, i looked in my history book, a dictionary, and even wikipedia.
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku i do not believe nobody can be a mayan decendant but it is stupid to think that mexican people have to speak mayan and that the mayan descendants were conquerd by the spaniards, when the mayan culture ended around 300 AD, the few mayans left just blended with other groups, their culture and lnguage were lost in more than a thousand years. so there are no direct mayan descendants
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 mayan culture ended at 300 ad yet they find mayan codices wirtten much earlier, so strange isnt it. theres no direct mayan decedents despite the fact that all of lower mexico and guatemala was considered part of the mayan empire. and it just makes SOOO much more sense to assume interpretations from white culture, which were originally middle eastern and african, as correct and absolute a instead of just saying that they do just dont know.
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku how the codices that were written earlier have to do with the culture ending in 300 AD? i, there are no direct mayan decendants becasue only few were left (not enough to survve alone) their only choice was to blend with other groups. people study and work ages to give those interpretations, no one is taking them as absolute, but as pretty accurate. and you said "THEY CANT EVEN FUCKING READ THEIR OWN LANGUAGE." it is not their language mayan language was forgotenn, and that was rude
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 so what you're saying is that those codices are not mayan correct?
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku no i am saying that ta culture may last ages so the factt that some codices were written many years bc doesn't relate to the fact that hte mayan culture ended in 300 ad, i said that the interpretations of the mayan writtings are not tken as absolute, but as quite accurate because many people study years in orther to give those interpretations,
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 lol before mayan culture ended. now its interpretation.
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku now you are absolutlely nonsense, not partially as you were b4 i don't get you, just keep your mistaken knowledge an opinions to yourself cause you're talking without a logic
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 Just because I caught you contradicting yourself means Im nonsense?
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku no you didn't caught me, if you did idk when, you're nonsense because you are saying unrealistic, unsubstantial and illogical "facts"
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 So you saying that mayan culture ended 300 ad yet agreeing that codices made a thousand of years later are still mayan is not a contradictio?. and me not logical? Its somehow logical to think that the christians just came here and taught people their language, oh it was a little bit violent, but most people were willing to give up their culture that they've been practicing for hundreds of years. they're going to burn all their books on accident too? that's completely logical
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku i never said that READ b4 saying things you said "mayan culture ended at 300 ad yet they find mayan codices wirtten much earlier, so strange isnt it" i said: "how the codices that were written earlier have to do with the culture ending in 300 AD?" so oviously i am not agreeing on that. And i never stated that that way i simply feel we are going nowhere your mind is too small and narrow that you read what you want instead of whats written.
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 are there mayan codices written after 300ad? and if not what are the culture of the codices found in those area that were written after 300ad.
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku i never said there were codices written after 300ad and if there are probably not in south mexico, because the only history i have studied (deeply) its the mexican one, and after doing some research i figured that in other places of central america a weaker and oviously less great part of the mayan culture remained, b4 you say sth i am not contradicting myself i still say that there are no direct mayan descendants in mex, and there is no obligation on mexican people to speak mayan.
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 so the Dresden, Madrid, and Paris codices are not mayan
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku those codices were found by conquerors in caves and such except for one which was taken away from a group that was formed after the mayan fall that had certain knowledge of the mayan culture
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 So you're saying its a 100% fact that those codices could have never been made by people who where previously considered mayan, and they could have never known about this place, which is being claimed to be the greek underworld for the mayans by NTD World News.
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku sad tht you keep putting words in my mouth just to "be right" or to say " i am contradicting myself" or sth. On the contrary i am saying those codices might have been written b4 the myan culture ended, or by myan descendants, still the myan language was forgotten therfore you cnt say : "HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW THE MAYANS THOUGHT IT WAS THE UNDERWORLD WHEN THEY CANT EVEN FUCKING READ THEIR OWN LANGUAGE." i am arguing with that, not defending the whole underworld thing
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 Its impossible for them to be written before 300ad if that's what you're saying. they were carbon dated for thousands of years after your 300ad mark, around 1200ad.
You are implying that that before the genocide or "cultural blend" that its impossible for anyone to have had any sort of knowledge of these sites or mayan writing/history. and yes you are implying that because your whole argument is that all knowledge was lost after 300ad
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago
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@MANAUIAkioku i am not implying all knowledge was lost after 300 Ad i am implying that after 1700 years have passed the knowledge was actually lost so nobody speaks mayan which gives you no right to say : HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW THE MAYANS THOUGHT IT WAS THE UNDERWORLD WHEN THEY CANT EVEN FUCKING READ THEIR OWN LANGUAGE." and i am not implying that your narrow mind is believing that i implied that. And what i am saying mayan people lived passed 300 ad, but there are none todate
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 Oh wow really? Ok give me the evidence that says there are none to date and that there were absolutely no people speaking mayan before the spanish arrival.
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku idk if there were people speking mayan before the spanish arrival, but i know there are none to date there is no need of giving evidence just going to south mexico and talking to the infigenous people there, they tell you they do not speak mayan, besides if someone spoke mayan we would have saved whole lot of trouble. There is atronomic, medical, and whole lot of knowledge waiting to be desiphered. Still evidence or no evidence gives you no right to be as rude as you were
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 You revealed that you have personal grudges against the indigenous people as though they are the oppressors, and you are the victim despite the fact, that whites own the state and have been killing indigenous people for centuries. You claim that it is part of your culture yet it seems like the only reason you study is to bring up this ridiculous antagonism against indigenous people. Why should i take you seriously when you dont even have evidence for your first argument?
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago
@MANAUIAkioku i never revealed i have any issues against the idigenous people, i am against the believe white=mean, idigenous=good, i am not the victim but only because my skin is white and i have some spanish, vasc, and italian asendance i am treated differently (even though i am mixed race, mostly white i have to admit but still...). So i am not against indigenous people, i am against people that think like you and bring "ridiculous antagonism" towards white people...
Cheerleadersrock13 8 months ago
@Cheerleadersrock13 oh of course! we should never think that! you are so right. people have been portraying whites as the bad guys this whole time and the indigenous people were always the good guys. darn those indigenous people and their privileges. they need to learn their place! this is the white mans country! they should never think of themselves as better then whites! NEVER!!!
MANAUIAkioku 8 months ago