The fact that people unquestioningly follow any belief system is proof enough to dismiss their thoughts as foolish. I just got a copy of Dianetics and began objectively reading. Let me tell you, this shit is almost as crazy as The Old Testament.
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I love the interview at 8:00 . The kind of aggressive educated defense that the Scientologists gave is exactly what the ruling class fears...and thus, they try to crush CoS..
BTW: I'm not a CoS and could never be, but it is obvious that the Scientologists were right about massive conspiracies and deceit. The more "anti-Scientology" videos I watch, the more I back Scientology. Thank God for the Internet!
Wow the ending was something singing AMERICA having to have it on Paper they don't know it by heart? All children when I grew up sang this in school and did NOT have to read it. It really shows this is not what they believe AMERICA. If so they sure would not all have to read it from paper... How telling that was...
Apparently Scientology hasn't corrected the good reverends eye sight yet (as Scientology Promises)... maybe once he reaches OT VIII. Yeah that's it, the true powers come once you reach the top... oh wait... no they don't!
@AXISOFHENDRIX Well after all, there is no rule saying that you can't use one fiction to prop up another fiction.
Of course the fact that he was using verses commanding violence and bloodshed to defend faiths as some sort of justification for his own religions behavior is very telling of the nature of that religion.
- Margarit Winkelmann (51) - Josephus A. Havenith (45), Andreas Ostertag (38) - Peter E. Frei (37) - Heribert Pfaff (31) - Roger Nind (49), Carrie Slaughterbeck (23) - Peter Ernst Frei (37)
and on and on and on and on...
I could go on, I could give details, but you wont listen non of your cult will.
You know why, because you are too brainwashed to care about human life.
Your a pyramid scheme, preying on the weak and fleecing every last penny and leaving them to rot.
' 6 million followers ' .. ' estimated' hear the word estimated . it is really about ... what 20 30 look at the people on there pickets or strikes you will see about 20 or 30 . where are the 6 million followers
Its just a discussiongs page. Relax. You sound dangerouse. You sound like your trying to enlist the help of a bunch of people who actually threatened the Church, who send emails and phone messages of threats.
Itsok to dissagree, but not ok to beg the help of a small group of people who have no braiins other then to harm! Good luck, lol later
pooooooooor lost humans u are so stupid and retarded!!! how the fuck they can live under this spy and control??? how the can ENJOY THEIR LIVE under this tough rules ???
its almost useless, as long as this people lives scientology will live forever !!
The interviewer was caught on almost every point!!!
As for Hubbards accent - should he have spoken in alignment with ur stereotypes my friend? All u can is insult....and thats sad because you (I would like to think) are capable of so much more! Its your own shame, your own debasement - your own quality of character you are freely displaying. Hail the mighty ignorent - incoherent boo's and jeers with out clarity of conviction and solutions of your own!!! behave
For "homo novus" advanced beings, who are "clear" of their crippling "reactive minds" and now are "operating thetans" with all sorts of special powers, Scientologists sure seem like hapless rubes in denial in every video I've ever seen of them. Why don't they use their powers and DO SOMETHING? Levitate Mike Wallace's chair, or something. Wouldn't that be a more efficient use of their time and energy than arguing like dorks and getting upset when we don't buy their line?
Why oh why has the city of Clearwater, Fl. caved in as to getting the real estate taxs owed them ! No wonder downtown is so void of identy. Yes my spelling sucks...but my thoughts are with what has happened to my old now past on city...because of a cult.
Jeebus even poor John Travolta got that same puppy eyed brainwashed look in his face! All these guys have that same look. If you line them all up you will see what I'm talking about.
I used to like the puppy eyes, now its a look beyond creepy. So sad!
Scientology is a corporation set up to illegally steal your tax dollars, through their secret exclusive deal they made with the IRS. A clear violation of The Establishment Clause of the Constitution of the United States. And a disgrace to all recognized religions. How many people have they killed? How many people have they driven to suicide? How long are we going to let the child abuse,[mental & physical] continue? All there crimes are committed with the Govt OK, and your taxes!!!
@LFraudHubbard and yet people still join, from the info that's out about scientology it is without doubt a character assasinating, nazi, prejudice, brain washing, money grabbing, hypocritical, family destroying, pathological lying organisation.. So much evidence on each of those aspects. The brain washing side becomes obvious when you watch videos where scientolgists argue, jason berghe said it perfectly, you're not talking to the person, you're talking to the scientologist
True, true! These people say "look! proof of this book's popularity! It's flying off the shelves!"
Truth is a week after they "fly off the shelves" they come back to roost a week or two later to pump up false sales. It has been witnessed by many people. I have an idea! Put a sticker that gives a unique code to the book and when bought, the person is forced to register it with an internet site that is neutral. When the serial number comes up again, you subtract that 'sale'.
I don't usually reply to a post this old but I feel its needed:
Good job on bringing that to light. I was reading through and was about to make a similar comment and glad I caught this first. I noticed that after your comment the scientologist never made a comeback at all and I wouldn't suspect one seeing as there's well documented proof that it happens. I've had to do that myself a time or two, nueteral out sales on books. Most of them were, surprise surprise; dianetics.
its true as humans we are afraid of what we dont understand,but blimey hubbard or bad hurb as i like to call him is just a fruit cake,destroying lives of many,cruise,travolta,hayes just raise the profile.
As far as I'm concerned, that's a pretty big generalization. Where did you get this idea that Tom Cruise, John Travolta and Isaac Hayes' lives are being destroyed by Scientology? As far as I'm concerned, Cruse and Travolta have done a pretty damn good job defending themselves in Hollywood against journalists and Scientology antagonists.
no i didnt say that cruise travolta etc lives are being destroyed i said they raise the profile of scientology and that is destroying the lives of others.
Lol, yeah, whose lives? Give me some names. And don't say Lisa McPherson, because as far as I'm concerned, her story has been twisted and altered in so many ways, I don't think anyone really knows the complete 100% truth. Everyone's got a different way of putting it. So give me some names.
names that probably wouldnt mean too much to you,ian and steff fulford my brother and sister ,we lost them,and i will add mcpherson as the story is true.
Well I'm truly sorry that they made up their own minds about what they wanted to do in life. They followed their hearts, just as every single human being does on this planet. Maybe we should attack life too, because it has this uncanny habit of attracting attention as people get older. They want to discover life and life takes them on a journey. Oh, but that's life, I forgot.
reading through your past comments to vaious people it seems you have a barrier of defence. what are your crimes happymelancholyday? what are you afraid of?
You've got a similar reflection. I could just as easily conclude that you've got a barrier of defense as well. You defend yourself in order to justify yourself right, just as any other critical thinking human being would. So how am I any different? I could just as easily ask, what are YOU afraid of, Tracy?
You know how scientology sues everyone I say it is time for christians to sue them for stealing the cross as their symbol. honestly tell me that at 1:34 is not a cross?
If I ruined a joke, I'm truly sorry. But to my knowledge, it's pretty hard to decipher when someone is kidding on the internet. It's difficult to decipher sarcasm if you are unfamiliar with that particular person's personality. The Scientology cross has 8 points representing the 8 Dynamics listed in Scientology.
funny how all the spokespeople of scientology portray such a nazi outlook of this so called "religion" that it's hard for anyone to be able to discuss anything with a scientologist. every scientologist interviewed has taken the offensive without actually debating anything. same thing non believers of this cult are doing. taking the offensive to a movement which, no matter how benign it may appear to be, it is and always will be a CULT.
they had to have cheat sheets to sing the lyrics ...wow.some schooling, amazing how so many fall for the religious aspects of this obvious humanistic endevour.....they themselves have turned it into a cult by claiming tax evasive "religious" credentialing.same old story "I know something you don't know".blah
This is a cult that is based around lies and deceit, ultimately from the root of it's founder, L Ron Hubbard. The problem will it is that most of the members are taught to deny, lie, and deceitfully attack anyone who they consider "Biggots". I don't buy it.
Scientology's own lawyer: "...if he (hubbard) were to spend his time attempting to refute every allegation made against him, he would have no time to write the technology and to develop the philosophy..." Pretty funny.
As a native Texas, I think we Texans should band together and wipe Scientology off the face of the earth. And, I don't mean needless slaughter. We're Texans. We kick ass in a friendly and cool manner. Anyone know about Texas politics? WE ARE BATSHIT CRAZY! REMEMBER THE BATTLE OF GONZALEZ! COME AND TAKE IT! REMEMBER THE ALAMO! TEXAS VS. SCIENTOLOGY!
In answer to your "personal ammunition" questions Xenu, I normally wouldn't get into it with cause whats the point? But I will to show my openess on discussing everything I have experienced with the church, and I have no problem doing that. so in answer to the questions. Yes, No, Yes. got it? Next question?
Thank you, Chris. How big was your freeloader bill and did you pay it? The people who were sent to the RPF, what were their crimes and was the punishment merited?
this is where ChrisKalhoun diverts topic and mentions how many Dianetics books have been sold, or how it's merely a method like transcendental meditation or catholic confessions...
Hey, is your billion year contract up ? You must be a billion and one years old then. Wow you should contact the guiness book of records we have a new oldest person.
And no, England is fighting to not let you get tax emempt status. God I just dont get how you can talk with so much bullshit coming out of your mouth, that must be painful.
Youtube will destroy scientology, you cant hide behind the bullshit when the facts are here. I still have yet to see any benefits of scientology. How is bankrupting someone and giving them made up vocabulary about a pseudoscience going to help them. I thought seaorg members werent aloud online chris ?
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Ex-Sea Org Andrew, And if you knew anything at all about Scientology you would see how it has helped millions of people worldwide. There's a reason why Dianteics has been on the New York Times bestseller list ofr over 30 years selling more than 10 million copies worldwide, do you have any idea at all of the scope of what you are fighting? We're recognized by almost every government in the world as being "tax-Exempt" Oh but let me guess, thats a global conspiracy.
Hondo..lol Your "turning-the-tables" mentality is getting a little stale. There's a reason why the book Diantetics is as succesful as it is. Just as there is a reason Why Scientology is the fastest growing religion on the planet. Just as there is a reason why the US governement as well as just about every other one is recognized as a bonafide religion and "tax-exempt". In other words, you can't dispute the facts. This has allready been done. Sorry, there's no-rewriting are results.
Ohhh Xenu... I think your intellect needs a little re-charge. Better get some sleep. You're starting to stoop down to the average teenager on here and just posting pure ridicule and mockery. It may apply to most of your internet audience, but unfortunatley it does nothing for your reputation with the people that can think for themselves. They see right through your failures. I'm sorry but a responce like is a total avoidance of the issues of debate. I was expecting more from the "mighty" Xenu.
Why would someone waste on ounce of intellect on a brain washed fool like you. I mean can u even hear yourself. People have been killed by the church. I mean scientology is the same idea of the Judeo-christian god. A bullying, self centered, greedy, biggoty, and vengeful
just type "Scientology" into your google search bar and you will see a vast amount of data collected about the "church" of $cientology and how ultimately it just destroys lives. but if you like to throw your money away to a greedy cult and let them dominate your life, that's your right. peace.
A) The truth is all around us and LRH only states that he has gathered it to allow us to help ourselves to greater heights.B)Like any organization, income is needed to maintain the administration needed to deliver the technology. Scientology is no different C.)Know and study your enemies, if you see things for yourself instead of buying in to all the propaganda on here, you'll know that attacking something that is good will be your undoing, and if it's that bad,it will cave itself in anyway.
the truth is that scientology is not a science at all. it operates under front groups deceptively, seeks to destroy those who see through it's lies, scientology commits crimes against governments.
there is ZERO technology to be delivered from scientology. you are right, the truth is out there, and many have come to the conclusion that scientology is a cult. two countries have already decided this and soon so will america.
Why are people so afraid to let people follow there own path ? Why do they feel the need to control people from thinking for themselves and deciding whats right for them ? Could it be that they're so unsure about there own certainty that any mention of something contrary will throw off the little bit of reality they have left in the world??
why does scientology feel the need to control people from thinking for themselves? could it be scientology is so unsure about it's own certainty that any mention of something contrary will throw off the little bit of reality they have left in thier world? scientology is a big fat lie dude, wake up. it's a greedy cult.
Then google "hubbard, the man on the cross" to hear Hubbard in his own voice say that there was no Christ but some madmen stumbled upon some of Hubbard's tech 2000 years ago and misinterpreted it.
I don't see why anyone who disagrees with a Scientologist considered a suppressive. The man who said in this interview did not tell the truth. "Man can help himself" is the truth. Please take this and apply to the people on welfare now. We can solve the problem of unemployment and crime. My statement here is for those who like learning with application.
I live in the US, where the First Amendment to the Costitution guarantees my right to freedom of speech. I have this to say: Scienology is a dangerous cult whose stated purpose is nothing short of what other facist organizations claim.
People still get robbed, cheated, lied to, and swindled. They still get threatened and physically abused. They still get used. There is still in RPF. They hold too much power in Clearwater. No matter who joins them or anyone's opinion of their strengths/weaknesses, no one deserves their particular evil, hijacked from Crowley, so, THE FIGHT IS STILL ON.
I really hope it doesnt get to the UK. Americans are retarded and we let them get to "dug in" here. Save yourselves. dont let the cult get you...errr aackk *struggle struggle. . . *(zombie like tone)L Ron Hubberd was a genius i love scientology church. One of us One of us gooble gobble gooble gobble
Actually, almost all Americans know this is a cult. A rich cult armed with bitchass lawyers. I'm sorry to inform you, Scientology has been in the UK for quite some time. And, they're dug in like Americans!
the UK is full of people. where a person may be smart and open to common sense, people are quite dumb. always have been, and considering current affairs of the world, always will be. cults abuse this fact of life as most of them are lead by a smart person. LRH is a perfect example. he may have been a dellusional hypocrite but he was a good writer who used his imagination to con "Xenu" knows how many people out of their money, family, and souls. forget the war on terror, start a war on cults!
Scientology is one of the best profit-making organizations I have discovered. They have a genius marketing department, targeting those that are mentally weak...unable to make a rational decision before handing over their money.
Good thing the average american is becoming more intelligent and that we have free speech. The criticism of the church will only increase, until it will go bankrupt like many other corporations.
Isn't interesting how angry the Scientolgist's defenders are? It betrays insecurity; nothong "clear" about that. They need better P.R. people for sure, instead of that weird spawn of Ann Archer who looks like the evil dude from The Matrix.
Hello Mr. Anderson. Let's get you hooked up to this e-meter."
that whole e meter thing would actually be effective if it could trace emotional defects...repress those and you will infact be more perceptive and your mental health will increase...our mind does the same thing to emotional feelings that were too harsh for our minds to handle..repression..its easy to do the same thing through meditation. thus, scientologists repress all tiny mistakes and in their minds, become "unflawed"...
Look up "shamanic illness". Some of what you call emotional defects can be the seeds of becoming. Suffering has a purpose, and not one person can escape it. Suffering can rule a person, or a person can rule their own suffering. Scientology has nothing to do with this, as it is based on Aleister Crowley's b.s. left-hand path. That path denies and compounds suffering. Purification is different. Rule the hidden world in the heart, rather than hiding things in the hidden world of the mind.
Boycotts won't accomplish anything. Boycotting goods is one thing, boycotting movies, even celebrities is another. More extreme action has to be taken, because the harm that Scientology has caused and will cause is too great to go unopposed.
I think it's a start though and I'll be damned if I ever go to a movie with Cruise or Travolta in it. Not one penny of my money is ever going to the cult.
You think its only celebrities? Its agents, studio execs and studio heads. Earthlink is owned and operated by Scientology. It is vast. Their empire is awe-inspiring.
You don't think they can get to you in the UK, Ceilid? They can. And they have limitless resources and all the time in the world. Be careful, my friend.
I watched the BBC Panorama programme with much interset, and as a British citizen I can freely call $cienetology a cult, there is nothing religious about their practice. It's unbelieveable how any sane person can be taken in by their crap, for more of their crap go to Wikipedia and check out: Space opera in Scientology scripture.
i am a british citizen, that belives in freedom of speach. and had no real view of this cult!!!!!. i watch the bbc panorama programe in full. your video clip is not a ture reflection. of the reporter or the programe. and the cult leaders behavior was far worst than the bbc reporter. maybe you americans should watch the programe in full. before you past jugement. i centainly have a clearer view of scientology now and it is not a good one. this is a cult. A fucked up one aswell.
I actually LOLed at the list of Hubbard's "Accomplishments" - It reads like Biggles' and Quatermain's biographies. Then I remembered that some people believe it all, and I shed a tear for humanity.
IKEA furniture works fine in practice too. Assuming you know how to assemble it ;) Communism and a hold bar economy work on a theoretical basis. I wouldn't make that claim for Dianetics.
what the fuck is the word science even doing in a religion and with a cross and a church? damn these people give science a bad name! once these people start using words such as "finding yourself" your going into metaphysical dimensions not scientifical. this is just like another religion they like to brainwash everybdy's mind.
As we all know, an Ad Hominem is a flawed debate tactic. It's basically where, instead of intelectually debating what your oponent says, you just attack the oponent. "I believe that Bush is doing more damage than good in the middle-east" "You're a poopie-head!" Scientologists, however, take Ad Hminems a step further, they LITERALLY attack or threaten their oponents. Argumentum Baculum.
The CoS's response to the judge's verdict is both suspect and irrelelevant. it is suspect because the CoS is notorious for framing people for crimes they didn't commit, and it is irrelevant because, even if he WAS an SS member, what's that got to do with Hubbard?
Since that was their ENTIRE response to the judge's dicription of hubbard, one can only conclude that the judge's characterization was acurate.
So instead of disproving or trying to argue against the Judge's claim, he traces it to someone else who he claims was an SS member. Now, the problom is, the CoS is notorious for framing people and making up accusations against people. It's like the Boy who cried wolf. Even if he was indeed a member of the SS, how do we know this isn't just another CoS lie?
And even if he was, that just means he knows evil when he sees it.
I've read what Habbard said about how you can treat SPs, and have come to the conclusion that Hubbard was a complete asshole, and anyone who actually follows that paticular part of his teachings has no concience.
It always amazes me that, as stupid and outrageous as these idiots' beliefs are, and as insane as that criminal Hubbard was, there is still an unending supply of gullible, insecure young fools who will fall into this crap and get screwed out of their cash just to hear a ridiculous space-alien fantasy spread out on the installment plan.
Wow! The Nazis are controlling Interpol who's controlling US judges who's controlling 60 Minutes who's controlling the viewers at home! Scientolgists paranoid? Naahhh...
6 million? Dammit Hitler, why don't you come back and take the Scilons?
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poor old heber, where is he now? nobody seems to know.
TheBobbsey 1 month ago
The Cult of Shysterology
MrCuntyballs2U 1 month ago
The fact that people unquestioningly follow any belief system is proof enough to dismiss their thoughts as foolish. I just got a copy of Dianetics and began objectively reading. Let me tell you, this shit is almost as crazy as The Old Testament.
thekswervedirt 1 year ago 2
sounds similar to 20 century boys
Stavol2Dual 1 year ago
These people are bat-shit crazy.
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago 2
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I love the interview at 8:00 . The kind of aggressive educated defense that the Scientologists gave is exactly what the ruling class fears...and thus, they try to crush CoS..
BTW: I'm not a CoS and could never be, but it is obvious that the Scientologists were right about massive conspiracies and deceit. The more "anti-Scientology" videos I watch, the more I back Scientology. Thank God for the Internet!
TheGoalSetter 1 year ago
Scientology started out picking apart the various deceits of the ruling class.
THAT is why the government, its media, etc. constantly demean Scientology.
Like a wise martial artist, Scientology *had* to develop various ways to defend itself: Security Checks, kick @ss lawyers, public relations, etc.
The world isn't pretty...and when you fight the ugliness, you often have to get a little ugly too.
TheGoalSetter 1 year ago
a truth serum test damn damn damn thats the '70 for yah :/
xXxXTravisBickleXxXx 1 year ago
Wow the ending was something singing AMERICA having to have it on Paper they don't know it by heart? All children when I grew up sang this in school and did NOT have to read it. It really shows this is not what they believe AMERICA. If so they sure would not all have to read it from paper... How telling that was...
ConChaz100 1 year ago
This is really creepy
Welocy 1 year ago
What is the signifigance of the cross in their symbol?
lithjimmy 1 year ago
Mike Wallace, little did he know his troll son Chris would be a Faux Propaganda tool.
krazygreen 1 year ago
Apparently Scientology hasn't corrected the good reverends eye sight yet (as Scientology Promises)... maybe once he reaches OT VIII. Yeah that's it, the true powers come once you reach the top... oh wait... no they don't!
LinkBlink 1 year ago
10:33 HUH reading from another Religion????????????????
AXISOFHENDRIX 1 year ago
It's basically one cult leader reading and quoting the scriptures of another cult to justify it's existence.
JessicaSideways 1 year ago 3
@AXISOFHENDRIX Well after all, there is no rule saying that you can't use one fiction to prop up another fiction.
Of course the fact that he was using verses commanding violence and bloodshed to defend faiths as some sort of justification for his own religions behavior is very telling of the nature of that religion.
GermanChocolateCake 1 year ago
3:00 look at that cheezzzy shit grin
AXISOFHENDRIX 1 year ago
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We are Anonymous.
We are legion.
We do not forget.
We do not forgive.
Expect us.
EldarReaper 2 years ago
"millions of followers"? Bullshit......maybe a few hundred thousand world wide.
Xenumania 2 years ago 5
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BEWARE OF THE CULT OF SCIENTOLOGY!
It was designed with the whole intention of extorting money from people who need real help.
Many people have died as a direct result of the cult of scientology's actions.
Don't be another victim!
For the truth, Google: Scientology's Casualty List
or go to xenuDOTnet for more info on the dangers.
Copy and paste to help inform people of a cult who actively attempt to sue or censor anyone who speaks against them
sinionblack 2 years ago 5
PS: yes there is a couple of names repeated in that minor scratch of the surface so what, 1 person is too many.
Nolebrab 2 years ago
- Margarit Winkelmann (51) - Josephus A. Havenith (45), Andreas Ostertag (38) - Peter E. Frei (37) - Heribert Pfaff (31) - Roger Nind (49), Carrie Slaughterbeck (23) - Peter Ernst Frei (37)
and on and on and on and on...
I could go on, I could give details, but you wont listen non of your cult will.
You know why, because you are too brainwashed to care about human life.
Your a pyramid scheme, preying on the weak and fleecing every last penny and leaving them to rot.
CoS = MURDEROUS CULT!
Nolebrab 2 years ago 6
Richard Collins (24) - Patrice Vic (31) - Albert Jaquier (59) - Rudolf Willems - Albert Jaquier -Rudolf Willems - Karen Simon - Diane Colletto - Rodney Rimando (21) - Susan Meister - Flo Barnett - Quentin Hubbard - Scott Leland, Larrayne Johnston - Rodney G. Rimando - Lori Wood - Yvonne Gillham Jentzsch - Sally Esterman - Susan Todhunter - Marie - Passmore - Phoebe Mauerer - Jens Bogvad - Betty Filisky - Peggy Bankston (?) - Daphne Parselle - Ellen Carder - Carrie Slaughterbeck (23)
Nolebrab 2 years ago 2
HappyMelancholyDay
"So give me some names."
Heres 1 or 2 to start:
I will start with a name you disrespect in death as much as your cult did in life.
Lisa McPherson (36) - Heribert Pfaff (31) - Josephus Havenith (45) - Noah Lottic (24) - Stacy Grove Meyer (20) - Susan Meister (23) - Roberto Deplano (20) - Paride Ella (22) - Giuseppe Tomba (26) - Gabriella Bramucci (55) - Wilhelm Mack (37) - Bob Mills (41) - Quentin Hubbard (22) - John Buchanan - Nancy Graham (54) - Sue Mueller (60) -
Nolebrab 2 years ago 2
' 6 million followers ' .. ' estimated' hear the word estimated . it is really about ... what 20 30 look at the people on there pickets or strikes you will see about 20 or 30 . where are the 6 million followers
pandaninja1303 2 years ago
The Reverend Gent seriously needs a good smack upside the head.
zambimaru 2 years ago
ItalyStyler,
you sound like a terrorist!
Live forever!? what are you on about?
Its just a discussiongs page. Relax. You sound dangerouse. You sound like your trying to enlist the help of a bunch of people who actually threatened the Church, who send emails and phone messages of threats.
Itsok to dissagree, but not ok to beg the help of a small group of people who have no braiins other then to harm! Good luck, lol later
1980phil1912 2 years ago
pooooooooor lost humans u are so stupid and retarded!!! how the fuck they can live under this spy and control??? how the can ENJOY THEIR LIVE under this tough rules ???
its almost useless, as long as this people lives scientology will live forever !!
We need your help Anonymous !!! ^^
ItalyStyler 2 years ago
SMACKDOWN!
1980phil1912 2 years ago
Why flag freedom of speak?
The interviewer was caught on almost every point!!!
As for Hubbards accent - should he have spoken in alignment with ur stereotypes my friend? All u can is insult....and thats sad because you (I would like to think) are capable of so much more! Its your own shame, your own debasement - your own quality of character you are freely displaying. Hail the mighty ignorent - incoherent boo's and jeers with out clarity of conviction and solutions of your own!!! behave
1980phil1912 2 years ago
For "homo novus" advanced beings, who are "clear" of their crippling "reactive minds" and now are "operating thetans" with all sorts of special powers, Scientologists sure seem like hapless rubes in denial in every video I've ever seen of them. Why don't they use their powers and DO SOMETHING? Levitate Mike Wallace's chair, or something. Wouldn't that be a more efficient use of their time and energy than arguing like dorks and getting upset when we don't buy their line?
11Jamie11 2 years ago 3
$cientologist = moron
DrMierzwiak 3 years ago 5
Don't Scientologists have church hymns instead of national songs?
PrivateSkittlez 3 years ago
Why oh why has the city of Clearwater, Fl. caved in as to getting the real estate taxs owed them ! No wonder downtown is so void of identy. Yes my spelling sucks...but my thoughts are with what has happened to my old now past on city...because of a cult.
linoleumcarving 3 years ago 3
Jeebus even poor John Travolta got that same puppy eyed brainwashed look in his face! All these guys have that same look. If you line them all up you will see what I'm talking about.
I used to like the puppy eyes, now its a look beyond creepy. So sad!
LadyNinjaKagero 3 years ago 3
How is this not flagged by some stupid, brainwashed, Scientologyist, idiot??? I guess they will soon though.
YOSUP315 3 years ago 8
Is it just me, or does Hubbard sound like a Southern used car salesman...?!?! LOL I was laughing my butt off as he spoke.
DeadEnd39 3 years ago 3
9:52
Such irony! He is using the rhetoric he said the radical Scientologists are guilty of!
Whitesun1047 3 years ago 4
Ahahaha, oh God this is just sad.
Great 'dead agenting' right there CoS nerds.
SirSmokeal0t 3 years ago 3
His IQ rises higher and higher?
That's rich, most of the Scientologists i've seen are brain-dead zombies.
SirSmokeal0t 3 years ago 10
Yeah but if you start at an IQ of 70, the only way to go is up!
greenmctea 3 years ago 15
"if you start at an IQ of 70, the only way to go is up!"
70 > 0.
11Jamie11 2 years ago
Tommy Davis sounds like a young Heber Jentz after watching this video.
krazygreen 3 years ago
Scientology is a corporation set up to illegally steal your tax dollars, through their secret exclusive deal they made with the IRS. A clear violation of The Establishment Clause of the Constitution of the United States. And a disgrace to all recognized religions. How many people have they killed? How many people have they driven to suicide? How long are we going to let the child abuse,[mental & physical] continue? All there crimes are committed with the Govt OK, and your taxes!!!
Expect Us
LFraudHubbard 3 years ago 20
@LFraudHubbard and yet people still join, from the info that's out about scientology it is without doubt a character assasinating, nazi, prejudice, brain washing, money grabbing, hypocritical, family destroying, pathological lying organisation.. So much evidence on each of those aspects. The brain washing side becomes obvious when you watch videos where scientolgists argue, jason berghe said it perfectly, you're not talking to the person, you're talking to the scientologist
chr1sred 1 year ago
True, true! These people say "look! proof of this book's popularity! It's flying off the shelves!"
Truth is a week after they "fly off the shelves" they come back to roost a week or two later to pump up false sales. It has been witnessed by many people. I have an idea! Put a sticker that gives a unique code to the book and when bought, the person is forced to register it with an internet site that is neutral. When the serial number comes up again, you subtract that 'sale'.
darthspeaks 3 years ago 8
I don't usually reply to a post this old but I feel its needed:
Good job on bringing that to light. I was reading through and was about to make a similar comment and glad I caught this first. I noticed that after your comment the scientologist never made a comeback at all and I wouldn't suspect one seeing as there's well documented proof that it happens. I've had to do that myself a time or two, nueteral out sales on books. Most of them were, surprise surprise; dianetics.
MysteriousAya 2 years ago
its true as humans we are afraid of what we dont understand,but blimey hubbard or bad hurb as i like to call him is just a fruit cake,destroying lives of many,cruise,travolta,hayes just raise the profile.
tracyfulford 4 years ago
As far as I'm concerned, that's a pretty big generalization. Where did you get this idea that Tom Cruise, John Travolta and Isaac Hayes' lives are being destroyed by Scientology? As far as I'm concerned, Cruse and Travolta have done a pretty damn good job defending themselves in Hollywood against journalists and Scientology antagonists.
HappyMelancholyDay 4 years ago
no i didnt say that cruise travolta etc lives are being destroyed i said they raise the profile of scientology and that is destroying the lives of others.
tracyfulford 4 years ago
Lol, yeah, whose lives? Give me some names. And don't say Lisa McPherson, because as far as I'm concerned, her story has been twisted and altered in so many ways, I don't think anyone really knows the complete 100% truth. Everyone's got a different way of putting it. So give me some names.
HappyMelancholyDay 4 years ago
names that probably wouldnt mean too much to you,ian and steff fulford my brother and sister ,we lost them,and i will add mcpherson as the story is true.
tracyfulford 4 years ago
Well I'm truly sorry that they made up their own minds about what they wanted to do in life. They followed their hearts, just as every single human being does on this planet. Maybe we should attack life too, because it has this uncanny habit of attracting attention as people get older. They want to discover life and life takes them on a journey. Oh, but that's life, I forgot.
HappyMelancholyDay 4 years ago
i guess i must be conversing with a cruise/travolta fan,lets agree to disagree.
tracyfulford 4 years ago
I guess you didn't really know what to say. And we've been in disagreement with each other ever since we started.
HappyMelancholyDay 4 years ago
i have a theory that you are just a wind up merchant,which is positive,well done,your comments are by far the most negative,good day to you.
tracyfulford 4 years ago
Lol a wind up merchant? Oh, okay. Yeah, that's me alright. After all, it's your theory which is unknown to anyone else but you.
HappyMelancholyDay 4 years ago
reading through your past comments to vaious people it seems you have a barrier of defence. what are your crimes happymelancholyday? what are you afraid of?
tracyfulford 4 years ago
You've got a similar reflection. I could just as easily conclude that you've got a barrier of defense as well. You defend yourself in order to justify yourself right, just as any other critical thinking human being would. So how am I any different? I could just as easily ask, what are YOU afraid of, Tracy?
HappyMelancholyDay 4 years ago 2
You know how scientology sues everyone I say it is time for christians to sue them for stealing the cross as their symbol. honestly tell me that at 1:34 is not a cross?
fluffybunny937 4 years ago
It's not an Xtian cross proper. It was taken from the backside of the Tarot cards made my Alester Crowley, the famous Satanist
HitoriJin 4 years ago
Maybe Pagans should sue Christianity for stealing the cross symbol from the oldest religious artifact: The Zodiac.
HappyMelancholyDay 4 years ago
Dude why do you need to ruin jokes?
fluffybunny937 4 years ago
If I ruined a joke, I'm truly sorry. But to my knowledge, it's pretty hard to decipher when someone is kidding on the internet. It's difficult to decipher sarcasm if you are unfamiliar with that particular person's personality. The Scientology cross has 8 points representing the 8 Dynamics listed in Scientology.
HappyMelancholyDay 4 years ago
funny how all the spokespeople of scientology portray such a nazi outlook of this so called "religion" that it's hard for anyone to be able to discuss anything with a scientologist. every scientologist interviewed has taken the offensive without actually debating anything. same thing non believers of this cult are doing. taking the offensive to a movement which, no matter how benign it may appear to be, it is and always will be a CULT.
alfriedi 4 years ago
they had to have cheat sheets to sing the lyrics ...wow.some schooling, amazing how so many fall for the religious aspects of this obvious humanistic endevour.....they themselves have turned it into a cult by claiming tax evasive "religious" credentialing.same old story "I know something you don't know".blah
THEMASTEROFYOU2000 4 years ago 3
Hubbard was a Thelemite.
AbsolvedOne 4 years ago
scientologist are clearly and completely delusional, and follow the teaching of a pathological liar(lafayette ronald hubbard)...
Katalyzt
Katalyzt 4 years ago 8
Travolta! LOL
stoneequinox 4 years ago
This idiot Travolta is the best proof that Scientology does NOT increase your IQ. He's probably OT 7 and still as dumb as a brick.
gurshark 4 years ago 7
Him and Tom Cruise
Krensada 4 years ago
This is a cult that is based around lies and deceit, ultimately from the root of it's founder, L Ron Hubbard. The problem will it is that most of the members are taught to deny, lie, and deceitfully attack anyone who they consider "Biggots". I don't buy it.
krazygreen 4 years ago 9
Hubbard was a chronic liar and a Drug addict of almost every drug known to mankind. Seriously.
Merchant111 4 years ago
hubbert's like the phelps lady, they have that same look in the eye
glewberdoober 4 years ago
Is/was John Travolta as big an asshole as Tom Cruise is now.
bundlestacks 4 years ago 2
Scientology's own lawyer: "...if he (hubbard) were to spend his time attempting to refute every allegation made against him, he would have no time to write the technology and to develop the philosophy..." Pretty funny.
sugarplumscookies 4 years ago 2
madhatter rules ok
RAQDES 4 years ago
As a native Texas, I think we Texans should band together and wipe Scientology off the face of the earth. And, I don't mean needless slaughter. We're Texans. We kick ass in a friendly and cool manner. Anyone know about Texas politics? WE ARE BATSHIT CRAZY! REMEMBER THE BATTLE OF GONZALEZ! COME AND TAKE IT! REMEMBER THE ALAMO! TEXAS VS. SCIENTOLOGY!
musicalkungfu 4 years ago
WHERE IS WALKER TEXAS RANGER WHEN YOU NEED HIM!!?!? lol
Merchant111 4 years ago
Once again
Xenu TV 1
crappy scientology -3
conkertheevilsquirre 4 years ago 2
In answer to your "personal ammunition" questions Xenu, I normally wouldn't get into it with cause whats the point? But I will to show my openess on discussing everything I have experienced with the church, and I have no problem doing that. so in answer to the questions. Yes, No, Yes. got it? Next question?
ChrisKalhoun 4 years ago
Thank you, Chris. How big was your freeloader bill and did you pay it? The people who were sent to the RPF, what were their crimes and was the punishment merited?
XENUTV 4 years ago
this is where ChrisKalhoun diverts topic and mentions how many Dianetics books have been sold, or how it's merely a method like transcendental meditation or catholic confessions...
hondo1188 4 years ago 4
Apparently, this is where Chris disappears.
XENUTV 4 years ago 6
lol
MykkaM 4 years ago
lol
conkertheevilsquirre 4 years ago
Chriskalhoun=Bullshitter
RAQDES 4 years ago
Hey, is your billion year contract up ? You must be a billion and one years old then. Wow you should contact the guiness book of records we have a new oldest person.
And no, England is fighting to not let you get tax emempt status. God I just dont get how you can talk with so much bullshit coming out of your mouth, that must be painful.
Andrew128Tou 4 years ago
Youtube will destroy scientology, you cant hide behind the bullshit when the facts are here. I still have yet to see any benefits of scientology. How is bankrupting someone and giving them made up vocabulary about a pseudoscience going to help them. I thought seaorg members werent aloud online chris ?
Andrew128Tou 4 years ago 3
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Ex-Sea Org Andrew, And if you knew anything at all about Scientology you would see how it has helped millions of people worldwide. There's a reason why Dianteics has been on the New York Times bestseller list ofr over 30 years selling more than 10 million copies worldwide, do you have any idea at all of the scope of what you are fighting? We're recognized by almost every government in the world as being "tax-Exempt" Oh but let me guess, thats a global conspiracy.
ChrisKalhoun 4 years ago
Did you get a free-loader bill when you left the Sea Org, Chris?
Did you ever get put on the RPF or see others on the RPF?
XENUTV 4 years ago
Because you buy your own books and then sell them back to stores. Probably bribing NYT editors as well.
We know the scope. The Internet is bigger.
xBLiTZxKRiEGx 3 years ago 7
@ChrisKalhoun It helped people lose money.
Welocy 1 year ago
Hondo..lol Your "turning-the-tables" mentality is getting a little stale. There's a reason why the book Diantetics is as succesful as it is. Just as there is a reason Why Scientology is the fastest growing religion on the planet. Just as there is a reason why the US governement as well as just about every other one is recognized as a bonafide religion and "tax-exempt". In other words, you can't dispute the facts. This has allready been done. Sorry, there's no-rewriting are results.
ChrisKalhoun 4 years ago
I'm going to pray to this rock. Who's with me? Join the Church of the Holy Rock. Lets see how fast we can grow this religion.
XENUTV 4 years ago
Ohhh Xenu... I think your intellect needs a little re-charge. Better get some sleep. You're starting to stoop down to the average teenager on here and just posting pure ridicule and mockery. It may apply to most of your internet audience, but unfortunatley it does nothing for your reputation with the people that can think for themselves. They see right through your failures. I'm sorry but a responce like is a total avoidance of the issues of debate. I was expecting more from the "mighty" Xenu.
ChrisKalhoun 4 years ago
Why would someone waste on ounce of intellect on a brain washed fool like you. I mean can u even hear yourself. People have been killed by the church. I mean scientology is the same idea of the Judeo-christian god. A bullying, self centered, greedy, biggoty, and vengeful
conkertheevilsquirre 4 years ago
just type "Scientology" into your google search bar and you will see a vast amount of data collected about the "church" of $cientology and how ultimately it just destroys lives. but if you like to throw your money away to a greedy cult and let them dominate your life, that's your right. peace.
hondo1188 4 years ago
A) The truth is all around us and LRH only states that he has gathered it to allow us to help ourselves to greater heights.B)Like any organization, income is needed to maintain the administration needed to deliver the technology. Scientology is no different C.)Know and study your enemies, if you see things for yourself instead of buying in to all the propaganda on here, you'll know that attacking something that is good will be your undoing, and if it's that bad,it will cave itself in anyway.
ChrisKalhoun 4 years ago
the truth is that scientology is not a science at all. it operates under front groups deceptively, seeks to destroy those who see through it's lies, scientology commits crimes against governments.
there is ZERO technology to be delivered from scientology. you are right, the truth is out there, and many have come to the conclusion that scientology is a cult. two countries have already decided this and soon so will america.
hondo1188 4 years ago
Why are people so afraid to let people follow there own path ? Why do they feel the need to control people from thinking for themselves and deciding whats right for them ? Could it be that they're so unsure about there own certainty that any mention of something contrary will throw off the little bit of reality they have left in the world??
ChrisKalhoun 4 years ago
why does scientology feel the need to control people from thinking for themselves? could it be scientology is so unsure about it's own certainty that any mention of something contrary will throw off the little bit of reality they have left in thier world? scientology is a big fat lie dude, wake up. it's a greedy cult.
hondo1188 4 years ago
Shesh... these guys really are scary... They really are dangerous.
SquireCD 4 years ago
I wonder if they came after Mike Wallace for this report
Ironhead097 4 years ago
such a dangerous cult
cultssuck 4 years ago
You attack your enemies?
TheInfiniteZero 4 years ago
why does scientology use the crusufiction symbol? just wondering
thesniffysniffy 4 years ago
It's an 8 pointed cross which represents the 8 separate areas of life which an individual may be engaged in. Google: Scientology Dynamics.
TheInfiniteZero 4 years ago
Then google "hubbard, the man on the cross" to hear Hubbard in his own voice say that there was no Christ but some madmen stumbled upon some of Hubbard's tech 2000 years ago and misinterpreted it.
XENUTV 4 years ago
Go to my videos for actual quotes from Hubbard speaking about various things including Christ.
TheInfiniteZero 4 years ago
Scientology was found responsible of criminal acts in France !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(see on google video: "Above the law")
enturbulated 4 years ago
how dare they use the cross. that is christian symbol and they are using it for their brainwashing cult.
spetznaz1337 4 years ago
Same old story. All you cult followers are welcome out here in the outside world.
ulvund 4 years ago
I don't see why anyone who disagrees with a Scientologist considered a suppressive. The man who said in this interview did not tell the truth. "Man can help himself" is the truth. Please take this and apply to the people on welfare now. We can solve the problem of unemployment and crime. My statement here is for those who like learning with application.
powercomm 4 years ago
I live in the US, where the First Amendment to the Costitution guarantees my right to freedom of speech. I have this to say: Scienology is a dangerous cult whose stated purpose is nothing short of what other facist organizations claim.
coussasimov 4 years ago
"The Judge stated that he found Scientology and you to be schizofrenic and - "
'Wait, um, hold on a second - he was a NAZI! That Judge was a Nazi! Nazi! Nazi! We are not schitzofrenic! Nazi!"
wasupi355 4 years ago
why are there people trying hard to convince others that scientology is a cult?
there's nothing to try to convince. it IS a cult, and it is quite internationally well-regarded as a cult. i thought this fact was COMMON SENSE.
deelite19 4 years ago
People still get robbed, cheated, lied to, and swindled. They still get threatened and physically abused. They still get used. There is still in RPF. They hold too much power in Clearwater. No matter who joins them or anyone's opinion of their strengths/weaknesses, no one deserves their particular evil, hijacked from Crowley, so, THE FIGHT IS STILL ON.
musicalkungfu 4 years ago
Six million world wide? So they recruit, what? One and a half million people every eleven years?
jackdinn1975 4 years ago
they bearly top 750,ooo today actually, those figure are church figure and are Bull
UrbanZenpk 4 years ago
Actually its more like 55,000 They include the people they trick into taking a stress test in that number
Merchant111 4 years ago
Cult cult cult
Never last a second in mainstream UK
BlueRanger1971 4 years ago
I really hope it doesnt get to the UK. Americans are retarded and we let them get to "dug in" here. Save yourselves. dont let the cult get you...errr aackk *struggle struggle. . . *(zombie like tone)L Ron Hubberd was a genius i love scientology church. One of us One of us gooble gobble gooble gobble
conkertheevilsquirre 4 years ago
No! We've lost Brittain! ...Soon all of Europe shall fall... Dang it, now all thats left is America. And we cant fight a war for smoot.
wasupi355 4 years ago
Actually, almost all Americans know this is a cult. A rich cult armed with bitchass lawyers. I'm sorry to inform you, Scientology has been in the UK for quite some time. And, they're dug in like Americans!
musicalkungfu 4 years ago
Dam i was hoping the UK would be a safer place for logic. Oh well at least a lot of people know this is a cult.
conkertheevilsquirre 4 years ago
the UK is full of people. where a person may be smart and open to common sense, people are quite dumb. always have been, and considering current affairs of the world, always will be. cults abuse this fact of life as most of them are lead by a smart person. LRH is a perfect example. he may have been a dellusional hypocrite but he was a good writer who used his imagination to con "Xenu" knows how many people out of their money, family, and souls. forget the war on terror, start a war on cults!
alfriedi 4 years ago
Scientology is one of the best profit-making organizations I have discovered. They have a genius marketing department, targeting those that are mentally weak...unable to make a rational decision before handing over their money.
Good thing the average american is becoming more intelligent and that we have free speech. The criticism of the church will only increase, until it will go bankrupt like many other corporations.
drew4u99 4 years ago
They work hard to rid us of our freedom of speech
Merchant111 4 years ago
Isn't interesting how angry the Scientolgist's defenders are? It betrays insecurity; nothong "clear" about that. They need better P.R. people for sure, instead of that weird spawn of Ann Archer who looks like the evil dude from The Matrix.
Hello Mr. Anderson. Let's get you hooked up to this e-meter."
morecat 4 years ago
lol
wasupi355 4 years ago
that whole e meter thing would actually be effective if it could trace emotional defects...repress those and you will infact be more perceptive and your mental health will increase...our mind does the same thing to emotional feelings that were too harsh for our minds to handle..repression..its easy to do the same thing through meditation. thus, scientologists repress all tiny mistakes and in their minds, become "unflawed"...
universalspecialK 4 years ago
Look up "shamanic illness". Some of what you call emotional defects can be the seeds of becoming. Suffering has a purpose, and not one person can escape it. Suffering can rule a person, or a person can rule their own suffering. Scientology has nothing to do with this, as it is based on Aleister Crowley's b.s. left-hand path. That path denies and compounds suffering. Purification is different. Rule the hidden world in the heart, rather than hiding things in the hidden world of the mind.
musicalkungfu 4 years ago
im British/american and scientology is deffanatly a friggin cult!!!!!
Mutnik85 4 years ago
BOYCOTT SCIENTOLOGY CELEBRITIES!
icey9blue 4 years ago
Boycotts won't accomplish anything. Boycotting goods is one thing, boycotting movies, even celebrities is another. More extreme action has to be taken, because the harm that Scientology has caused and will cause is too great to go unopposed.
Muaguana 4 years ago
I think it's a start though and I'll be damned if I ever go to a movie with Cruise or Travolta in it. Not one penny of my money is ever going to the cult.
Cloggerzzz 4 years ago
True, true. Ah, what the hell; I hardly go to movies anyway, might as well say I'm boycotting Scientology freaks.
Muaguana 4 years ago
You think its only celebrities? Its agents, studio execs and studio heads. Earthlink is owned and operated by Scientology. It is vast. Their empire is awe-inspiring.
mongobobo 4 years ago
Great video. Thanks for posting.
Must watch.....>
'Scientology and the Clearwater Police'
teds444 4 years ago
only in america
docrichy 4 years ago
CULT CULT CULT!!!
jonashipping 4 years ago
Thank God I live in the UK where I cxan freely call this a CULT, it can't be anything else!
Ceilidhsmum 4 years ago
I'm an american and i'll say it "IT'S A CULT"
tspraga 4 years ago
You don't think they can get to you in the UK, Ceilid? They can. And they have limitless resources and all the time in the world. Be careful, my friend.
mongobobo 4 years ago
I watched the BBC Panorama programme with much interset, and as a British citizen I can freely call $cienetology a cult, there is nothing religious about their practice. It's unbelieveable how any sane person can be taken in by their crap, for more of their crap go to Wikipedia and check out: Space opera in Scientology scripture.
pietershazam 4 years ago
i am a british citizen, that belives in freedom of speach. and had no real view of this cult!!!!!. i watch the bbc panorama programe in full. your video clip is not a ture reflection. of the reporter or the programe. and the cult leaders behavior was far worst than the bbc reporter. maybe you americans should watch the programe in full. before you past jugement. i centainly have a clearer view of scientology now and it is not a good one. this is a cult. A fucked up one aswell.
boywonderrecords 4 years ago
Scientology is a Terrorist organization and should be treated as so.
ackza 4 years ago 2
their freaks and should all shoot them selves in the head
cisum2003 4 years ago
I actually LOLed at the list of Hubbard's "Accomplishments" - It reads like Biggles' and Quatermain's biographies. Then I remembered that some people believe it all, and I shed a tear for humanity.
paulbottomley42 4 years ago 2
I think scientologies biggest challenge is to recruit some signwriters who can fit their sign a bit more subtly onto their HQ.
lordforgotten 4 years ago
south park rules! come out of the closet mr. cruise!
jwi2k7 4 years ago
Wow, talk about being unable to deal with critism.
Kool-aid drinkers HO!
LordofAnime 4 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
copy and paste this to 10 videos or your mum will die within the next 4 hours
fightexhibition 4 years ago
No different than any other religion to me...cept this one is disgustingly lucrative for its leaders.
DeimosSaturn 4 years ago
things that work in theory: Communism,Dianetics, a hold bar economy, & stuff from IKEA
Delta4845 4 years ago
IKEA furniture works fine in practice too. Assuming you know how to assemble it ;) Communism and a hold bar economy work on a theoretical basis. I wouldn't make that claim for Dianetics.
coussasimov 4 years ago
what the fuck is the word science even doing in a religion and with a cross and a church? damn these people give science a bad name! once these people start using words such as "finding yourself" your going into metaphysical dimensions not scientifical. this is just like another religion they like to brainwash everybdy's mind.
intellectguy 4 years ago
Dawg, scientologists is crazy as hell, man.
HAIL XENU!!!
TheREALMsSwan 4 years ago
As we all know, an Ad Hominem is a flawed debate tactic. It's basically where, instead of intelectually debating what your oponent says, you just attack the oponent. "I believe that Bush is doing more damage than good in the middle-east" "You're a poopie-head!" Scientologists, however, take Ad Hminems a step further, they LITERALLY attack or threaten their oponents. Argumentum Baculum.
dechha1981 4 years ago
Travolta's an idiot!
sephoramoon 4 years ago
The CoS's response to the judge's verdict is both suspect and irrelelevant. it is suspect because the CoS is notorious for framing people for crimes they didn't commit, and it is irrelevant because, even if he WAS an SS member, what's that got to do with Hubbard?
Since that was their ENTIRE response to the judge's dicription of hubbard, one can only conclude that the judge's characterization was acurate.
dechha1981 4 years ago
So instead of disproving or trying to argue against the Judge's claim, he traces it to someone else who he claims was an SS member. Now, the problom is, the CoS is notorious for framing people and making up accusations against people. It's like the Boy who cried wolf. Even if he was indeed a member of the SS, how do we know this isn't just another CoS lie?
And even if he was, that just means he knows evil when he sees it.
dechha1981 4 years ago
I've read what Habbard said about how you can treat SPs, and have come to the conclusion that Hubbard was a complete asshole, and anyone who actually follows that paticular part of his teachings has no concience.
dechha1981 4 years ago
"Total freedom" does not exist. Even Atheists are controlled by our oun concience.
I've met people who discribe themselves as "Free Spirits". They weren't CoS, they were freeloading drug adicts. Total loosers, basically.
dechha1981 4 years ago
It always amazes me that, as stupid and outrageous as these idiots' beliefs are, and as insane as that criminal Hubbard was, there is still an unending supply of gullible, insecure young fools who will fall into this crap and get screwed out of their cash just to hear a ridiculous space-alien fantasy spread out on the installment plan.
Truly, there is MORE than one born every minute.
MsgtSpook 5 years ago 2
Wow! The Nazis are controlling Interpol who's controlling US judges who's controlling 60 Minutes who's controlling the viewers at home! Scientolgists paranoid? Naahhh...
ubermej 5 years ago
I liked the part about how nobody ever sees L. Ron Hubbard. "Nobody sees the great L. Ron Hubbard! Not nobody, not no how!"
Frieda18 5 years ago
If you read "Wicked" by Gregory Maquire, you will realize how funny that statement is as in that book, the Wizard is a dictator. LOL.
coussasimov 4 years ago
Thank You XENUTV. Hail lord Xenu!
MayaAllalie 5 years ago
I really appreciate that you are willing to put these up here. Thank you very much.
keithguh 5 years ago
She should have sued the bastards.
MetaMorphy 5 years ago
damn that 60 mins lol
themanwithnomoney 5 years ago
Mafia + religion = Scientology.
retepvosnul 5 years ago