Geoff, There must be different optimal speed of ball/ distance past the hole dependant on the speed stimp meter reading on the green. Am I right I thinking on super fast greens that the optimal distance past the hole would be much lower than 17" and around 5"?
Pelz' 1977 data DISPROVES his later claims about 17" past the hole: Golf Digest July 1977, pages 52-55. His later "claims" about 17" never mentions this 1977 article or share his data proving it, because he has none.
Pelz's science only proved what everyone already knew: the go-by distance does depend on grass type and condition.
Others who have tried to duplicate his research to check it conclude that his claims cannot be accurate.
Awesome video. Why didn't I meet you 30 years ago!
cmartingolf 1 year ago
lol...who IS this dude?? lol
LNMike 1 year ago
Good video, but the stuff going on in the background is so distracting
elnocho3 1 year ago
What about Mr. 'take away the break' ?
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz
Take away the break means dead accuracy since it means you choose to narrow the hole by putting too many revolutions per sec
kilaueasteve 1 year ago
Geoff, There must be different optimal speed of ball/ distance past the hole dependant on the speed stimp meter reading on the green. Am I right I thinking on super fast greens that the optimal distance past the hole would be much lower than 17" and around 5"?
idatomhue 2 years ago
Common sense??
dagurebenezer 2 years ago
Geoff this video is incredible. My putting has been terrible of late but this video has instilled me with confidence again.
nickGTFX 3 years ago
thanks for the tips
DavidBigB 3 years ago
thank you for your video, it really helped me std i have a test tomorrow
kyaragm 3 years ago
Thanks for debunking the 17". More golfers should know this, but I think they know it intuitively anyway.
I wish GolfDigest would publish something about this since Pelz is not a contributor like he is for Golf magazine.
exaltedchosenone 4 years ago
This is really interesting. All I've heard is from Pelz 17" past the cup is ideal due to the footprints around the cut.
But I agree with Geoff that it's more positive to think about where in the cup do I want to ball to hit, bottom? back bottom?
exaltedchosenone 4 years ago
Pelz' 1977 data DISPROVES his later claims about 17" past the hole: Golf Digest July 1977, pages 52-55. His later "claims" about 17" never mentions this 1977 article or share his data proving it, because he has none.
Pelz's science only proved what everyone already knew: the go-by distance does depend on grass type and condition.
Others who have tried to duplicate his research to check it conclude that his claims cannot be accurate.
Geoff Mangum
geoffmangum 4 years ago