Battle For Haditha

[ziggyzap1]

FUCK AMERICA! These soldiers should all be executed for all the innocent people they killed!

[thSubliminalCriminal]

@ziggyzap1

this is a movie kid. The hell Iraqis go through on a daily basis are a millionfold worse. They face it from both sides. Innocent people are killed at times of war this is called collateral damage. We call it that. We actually have a name for it.

The enemy take people from their homes at gunpoint and have them run across a line of fire they know are aiming down the field. They use them as bait to get shot by our soldiers. It isn't just our side killing innocent people.

[paintersmurfs]

Hey yanks, come on up to Canada tell me your coming to "liberate me" so i can become a terrorist (freedom fighter) too! god damn that movie was some classic grade 7 educated Americanism right there. Oh! yeah the war of 1812! Where Canadians came down, burnt half your white house to the ground and then got drunk and bored and came home! the first 'terrorists"! Oh, they dont teach you that do they....

[FNBOOT2005]

@paintersmurfs The war of 1812 ended in a stalemate and it was between the British and the Americans (NOT Canadians) Yes, it started in Canada. Neither side gained or lost territory. It was an expensive war and so in 1814 the treaty of Ghent which established the status quo ante bellum and was signed in Belgium. News traveled slow so in 1815 Andrew Jackson and his army whooped the British asses in the Battle of New Orleans!

Sergeant Espinoza

US Marine

[paintersmurfs]

@FNBOOT2005 Sir, i quite like that response :) you are one keen United States individual!.

[FNBOOT2005]

@paintersmurfs Thank you. Sure there are some ignorant Americans, but remember it would be ignorant to categorize "all" Americans as ignorant. There will always be some rotten apples that will ruin it for the rest of us. That goes for EVERY country in the world. We are not perfect. No one is. We are all humans and as humans we will make mistakes. By the way Canadians kick ass! I had the pleasure to meet some of your best men and women serving overseas while I was deployed. =)

[IronDave100]

@chillibeans22 Dude I was in Iraq for 2 tours Afghanistan for 1 Bosinia, Somalia, Vietnam, Korea, IwoJima, Normandy, The somme, Verdun, Gettysburg, Yorktown little Bighorn the lot......I've been killing terrorists since your great great grandfather was a small boy.

[wrathofvengance67]

@IronDave100 yeh terrorists defending their people but blowing them up at the same time.

[zhiiiiiiiiiiyar]

i really liked this movie. because it's so true and im muslim, but the point is that when the rerrorist plant the bomb they think they will go to heaven. thats a bad idea for the terrorist. but if some of you guys know a movie like this. and war and made in iraq write it here want more of thease ty

[TheRockof90s]

For all you idiots who think Battle For Haditha was a good movie, it shows how fucking blind/ignorant the American public is to how the war really is. That piece of shit movie depicted Marines flying through the desert blasting hard rock on the radio and mooning eachother through the windows..thats a fucking joke. US Marines are professionals not 17 year olds with heroine habits. Not only that, but those events were nothing how they were depicted in the movie and they were investigated rightaway

[joeheng80]

@sadhukar, 9/24 is ALMOST HALF you fucking moron. Are you a fucking muslim or what? Fucking terrorist.

[WWrestlingEntertain]

stfu everybody. were all evil. 

[joeheng80]

9 out of 24 killed were combatants/insurgents. C'mmon people, do the math...half of these fuckers were involved! The rest probably know about the bombs but are not speaking up. As long as these dumb fucks don't speak up they will forever be caught in an endless crossfire. I'm not saying they deserve to die, but if I were them I would report the would-be terrorists to the Americans even if it means having my family killed. Better to die free then be forever fearful of these terrorists!

[sadhukar]

@joeheng80 are you retarded? 9/24 is a half?

[IronDave100]

@joeheng80 It amazes me that such a large proportian of the american public belive that people who are defending their own country against an occupation force are terrorists. Terrorist are people who carry out attacks against civilians to terrorize others Ie: The 911 hijackers or the american Tiger force troops in vietnam. Iraqis who attack american occupation forces in their own country are no different to french resistance fighters who attacked nazi occupation forces during ww2.

[tdbrown1963]

@IronDave100 I have to agree. You occupy my country and I will be shooting at their ass !!

ALL Americans feel this way too, and if you say you don't, you are LYING !!

[thSubliminalCriminal]

@tdbrown1963

I feel you I would protect my home and family from any invading force and smite them with utmost ferocity. Which is why this war is only winnable by dropping a WMD on top of the middle East and wiping the whole sodding nightmare off the face of the earth.

[IronDave100]

@joeheng80 I wouldnt normally waste my time commenting on people quite as ignorant and mentally deficient as yourself but couldnt really find anyone else who seemed worthy. It has always baffled me how even though american people are mainly descended from europeans, a vast number of them (mainly in the south and west) are completely incapable of independent thought and will just blindly beleive everything that their government feeds them. Sorry if some of my words are a bit long for you.

[darjannp]

You stupied Americans motherfuckers!!!

[KOKATONGA]

death to usa this barbaic terrorist country is the evil number one of the world i hate usa ugly people and your bitch culture

[ViennasNachos]

@KOKATONGA

I fuck you sandnigger

[KOKATONGA]

@ViennasNachos sandnigger? ^^ you americans are gays no culture no identity, of what you are proud? what is american white people ? black people ? asian people? the indians are the original

inhabitans from america go out back to dirty europe you son of a pig bitch mcdonalds face

[ViennasNachos]

@KOKATONGA The indians are the original? Lol what does India has to do with the USA.

Strength through diversity, this is what we are proud of.

[SvItoJ]

@ViennasNachos and ur stupid because , indiens not the indians

[ViennasNachos]

@SvItoJ the population of india is also called "indians" check it out douchebag

[SvItoJ]

@ViennasNachos ur fail at life bro

[ViennasNachos]

@SvItoJ iam not your bro, and you dont know my life, so you shouldnt judge, trust me

[SvItoJ]

@ViennasNachos smd. biaash, and wen i said bro , dat means sarcasm .

[ViennasNachos]

@SvItoJ aha very interesting, stop wasting my times cuz i ve got a quirk that forces me to respond anybody that writes me, also to faggots like you

[SvItoJ]

your father is a faggot , stupid asshole. and ask your momma why i didnot fuckd her last night.

[ViennasNachos]

@SvItoJ my father is a hard working person that gave all for his family and friends

you'd rather shut your dirty mouth when its about my father, also my mother is very caring person, i disappointed sometimes

talk with me not about my parents you subhuman

[SvItoJ]

@ViennasNachos who cares biaatch, he deffently works with your mother , yo mama is a stripper and your fathers is a p.i.m.p lmfaoo.

[ViennasNachos]

@SvItoJ youve got issues, get treatment

[SvItoJ]

@ViennasNachos sdfu please lmfao

[ViennasNachos]

@SvItoJ how old are you? or are you grown up and just stupid?

[SvItoJ]

@ViennasNachos oh gosh ur really dumb, i swear u still live with your momma

[SvItoJ]

@KOKATONGA hahah true true :))))) but ur lame cuz ur a hater :)

[QuestionsOFMark]

@KOKATONGA fuck u

[muslim123ish]

muslims are oppressed

[TFPanther28]

This is all a bunch a horse shit! I never met an Iraqi who was not a lying motherfucker! I can't tell the Language of this trailor either Russian or french either way it is all their equipment they sold the Iraqi's that the insurgents are using, so fuck both countries!

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 lol sorry mate but you really one dumb fuck. There are so many problems with what you've said, where to begin? Actually how about the fact that the Americans supplied weapons to Saddam while he was fighting Khomeini...and then gave Khomeini weapons as well!!!

The US pretty much fuelled an 8 year war that crippled the Middle- East.

Please please don't retort with some ignorant, dumb, arrogant American bullshit. At least read one credible source before posting in the future.

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 Really. No shit. Wow thanks for an obvious history lesson. The title of the film is the battle for Haditha in which U.S. Marines were wrongfully accused of war crimes. You are just what the world needs another terrorist loving Brit. You country men have died in Iraq as well there, mate. Let me guess you are a Muslim, I know I'm brilliant for being spot on with that one. That is a propaganda film and your an idiot. They are portraying them as being innocent civillians, LOL.

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 I'm a white, atheist male who actually served in the Rifles, and now i'm a student. I don't know what my religious views have to do with this.

I don't love terrorists. I don't hate our brave soldiers, whether they're in Iraq, Afghanistan, N.Ireland. I do fucking hate imperialist governments (yes even British ones) thinking they can do what they want in foreign lands.

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 I highly doubt you are white but it is possible. I also highly doubt you were in the military as you point of view on the world shows your ignorance of the reality of the muslim intent. As far as religeon goes if you were a muslim you would know the Koran tells you to kill all infidels for nothing more than the fact they don't believe in allah. Look at all the armed conflict in the world it all revolves around Islam with only a few exceptions.

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 well i can't proove it, but can I remind you that Muslims and Christians, black and white fight alongside one another in our military. I thought they did in yours, what happened to freedom and equality, I thought the Americans were into that...bullshit!

I really hope you and your disgusting like didn't serve in Iraq with your attitude, we're meant to be there HELPING muslims! The vast majority of the Iraqi population are MUSLIM!!!



[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 Yes I am well aware of everything Iraqi. Yes I did serve there 05-06 and yes I did much to help the Iraqi people. They complained every day about what they wanted while refusing to help us in any way That is how I know the insurgents hide behind civillians as I have seen it. You CHOOSE to denounce America but not radical Islam. Very telling. Why am I discusting because I am as you would say Spot On. The French and Italians sold Saddam weapons that they used on us. Denounce them?

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 Everyone in the west backed Saddam whether it be with weapons, aid, or simply turning a blind eye. I'll denounce them all if you want lol

And i'm not denouncing America, I love the place, i've travelled there many times. But it is unfortunately ruined by its share of racist nutcases such as yourself. I don't denounce America or Islam, but I denounce radical elements within both.

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 Please, africa conficts Sudan, Somalia. Muslim problems. Bosnia muslim problems. Phillipines muslim problems. Russia/Chechnia muslim problems. Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran. Muslim problems. Pakistan/India Muslim problem. I could go on an on but if you can't see what is right in front of your face there is no hope for you. I am not a racist boy I am a realist. Look at France and their riots muslim problems. Look at the Netherlands people mudered over a cartoon. Don't tell me I know.

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 How is Iraq a fucking muslim 'problem'? It was a dictatorial regime run by the ba'ath party (SECULAR), yes the leader was muslim...so what? There have been many christian dictators.

The fact that the conflict became sectarian AFTER the Americans got involved makes it an American 'problem'. It didn't take an idiot to work out that there might be a problem between sunni and shi'yte factions once security was destroyed so effectively by the less than adequate 'liberation' force.

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 Oh now onto Iran and the muslim 'problem' LOL!!! A man named Mossadeq won a DEMOCRATIC election. Shock horror, he wanted to keep a bit of Irans oil for himself (that evil evil man). The British and Americans got rid of him and to cut a long and complicated storey short, activekly kept a tyrant in power until 1979.

How is it a Muslim problem if people decide to rebel against Western tyranny?!?!

We created the problem that exists in Iran

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 LOL i've heard some lame excuses in my time but mistaking sick, putrid and vile racism for realism really takes some nerve.

Btw I could go into each of those conflicts, argue well how the conflicts aren't soley sectarian. Most are indeed disputes over land or resources. Religion is used as an excuse for those rallying support, and those finding ways of denouncing Islam.

I could easily retort that N.ireland is a christian problem, but it's primarily a dispute over land.

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 LOL, you are pathetic. Typical Liberal B.S. call someone a racist and claim victory. Listen my Iranian friend and yes you are an Iranian, nice try though. The weapons Saddam got from Italy and france were after Desert Storm. After the French fought Saddam they sold him modern weapons, idiot. Did the recent shooter claim he Killed in the name of Allah?  Not the same. I named countless conflicts and you came up with Ireland. Weak. Iran as a gov't is insane yet you defend them? LOL

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 lol i'm not iranian, i'm from steeple claydon, buckinghamshire, i attend aberystwyth university in western wales.

I didn't come up with Ireland you fucking idiot, learn to read. I said I could easily come up with ireland plus many more just to show how fucking retarded your argument is and yes your comments are racist. Some people do call people racists too easily, i'm sure most would agree it's perfectly justificable to call you a vile piece of scum racist.

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 Idiot, I have hit you with so many facts none of which you have denied because you can not, but I am a rascist? Really? Defending Iran as it was your child or something what is wrong with you? Back to your point. If we all continued to bring up Old History as you justify Iran in doing, then the Zulus should be attcking london. The French should over run your embassy over the hundred years war and many of the other wars. What did the CIA do excactly prior to the embassy take over?

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 why are you struggling with this? The Zulus did react, they fought a war with us. The French did react, we were on and off at war with them for hundreds of years!

What the CIA did to cripple Iran can easily be seen as a reason for the reaction the US are getting. Why is it so hard to understand that it is possible to acknowledge this without being accused of being part of some sort of evil empire.

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 You are beggining to bore me. "your a racist comments are tired. I am not a racist as I do not feel my race makes me better than anyone else. Look up the definition, idiot. I may be a religeonist but not a rascist. There are some muslims who don't accept "radical Islam" but they are actually the ones who are circumventing their own religeon. Stop lying we both know your Iranian. Iran is currently shelling the kurds in Iraq and crossed the border with tanks. Google it.

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 yeah i'm getting bored of you deflecting my point, yet it goes on.

And if i'm iranian why would I need to google what my supposed country is doing? But maybe look through my past comments, are you suggesting i created a youtube account years ago, commented on many things british (the england football team recently) with the plan to get into a debate regarding Iran???

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 Iran has denounced Israels right to exist and has vowed to destoy them. They have voluntered to escort the next so called "Aid" ships through the blockade. They are defying the U.N. by buidling nukes. They kill their own citizens for violation of Islam and not being muslim enough. They overlook the peoples well being to pursue a larger military, but you just keep on defending the Tyrants. They have threatened to "Destroy" a U.N. member, but hey thats cool. Your an embarrasment to the UK

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 btw I and many other europeans, australians, everywhere support the running of the awful genocidal blockade that israel is enforcing on Gaza ;)

I guess you'll manipulate this into me supporting the killing of some innocent civillians...

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 Yawn, Yet again you have ignored everything I have said as well. All nations have done things to one another in the past. 1950's is the past. To prove your own point again why are the zulu's not attacking London? Why are the british and the french still enemies. Answer, because their not living in the 1950's or the 1800's. our current president has done nothing but bend over backwards to kiss the "arse' if the islamic world and they have only become more militant. So what should we do?

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 Genocidal??????? They let Humanatarian Aid go through after an inspection. Why does Israel whom has been attacked since it's inception (defended by a Brittish UN contingent i might add in 1948) not have a right to inspect ships headed for Hammas who has it in their governments charter to "destroy" Israel???? They do not stop legitimate Aid they let it through. Do you choose to be ignorant? Can you not see how Iran has become even more Militant?' Do you wish to see Israel destroyed?

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 BTW proving the fact you can not hold a lucid conversation If you are an iranian Living in the UK you might not have heard that Iran is shelling Kurdish villages. Please try to keep up. I have answered all you pathetic points with valid simple arguments that you have failed to grasp. If you have anything to add other than some CIA activity 60 years ago feel free. Otherwise wave your Iranian flag and have a nice day.

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 no i'm going to stick with your stupid zulu point. A backlash to the action against the Zulus was a friggin war!!! A reaction to the CIA in Iran was the Iranian Islamic revolution and a general backlash against western interference.

Not Muslim=hatred and violence. Talk about ignorance...

And btw moderate elements of Hamas leadership have indicated a willingness to accept Israel will never disappear and progress the peace process. Just remember Hamas are democratically elected...

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 Yawn, and they over ran the U.S. embassy and held Americans prisoner for 460 days. When is it going to be enough for them???? Was the embassy not enough?. Do they want a war? Will that make them happy?They have assumed a war footing with the free world. Even the EU is not thrilled with the aspect of a nuclear Iran, not just the U.S. After they get a nuke they will employ all the lessons they have learned from N. Korea.

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 Soooooo, the point that you still have failed to grasp is the zulu's have let the past go. They are not fighting old news. The U.S. and Russia have fought 2 wars by proxy yet we still speak to each other The Iranians refuse talk to let anything go as they have another agenda. Seriously can you not understand this? I assume you are about 20 being at university and all. Is ahmadenjad sane or insane based on his comments and actions? Obama would love to talk with them. Yet they refuse?

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 You are out classed here friend. Get your prof on here to help you out. I have delved into multiple aspects as you have only called me a rascist and stated Iran can do what ever they want beacuse of something that happend 60 years ago with the CIA. Please bring more to the table than typical liberal boring talking points. By your own argument the U.S. should be able to attack Iran today because they invaded U.S. soil when they over ran the embassy. Really is that your best point?

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 When did I say that was my only point? Even if you are simplifying what the CIA did? Do you understand the gravity of it? You installed an evil dictator because the democratically elected PM didn't suit our needs. He ruled with an iron fist for more than 20 years with the aid of the U.S. If I grew up in this sort of state, and it was quite clearly American neocolonialism, i'de be pretty pissed off with Americans too.

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 it's only boring to you because it's not the same old propaganda bile you've been spoon fed by countless administrations. You find it shocking to think that someone from the west can sympathise with people who are 'muslim=evil'.

Oh I also addressed points about Iraq when you said it was a 'muslim problem', (LOL), but you've stuck to Iran.

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 No, you bore me because you can not see what is clear. 60 years ago! The Iranian people especially the people your age do not like the current leadership. They held massive protest over their last so called "Democratic electon". If you don't think that was not rigged your are worse off than I thought. Their Protesters they were arrested as political prisoners. As a liberal you don't have a problem there? If their leadership was half as crazy in the 50's as now then good for the CIA.

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 You claim to be supportive of the "Iranian people" however you come off as supportive of ahmadenajad. The Iranian people don't like their own governemnt but yet as a liberal you support a Totalitaian government. I find that interesting. Every time the Iranian people speak out they are suppressed by government forces, but as a liberal you like that I guess. You Don't support the people at all you support a dictatorship. School is out ,now run along.

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 lol now you're changing the subject. yes i'm aware of the protests, and i'm glad that the Iranian people are again showing what popular will again.

Please tell me where I supported the current regime? I'm simply showing that there is a reason for the current situation other than 'muslim=bad'. The current leader is obviouly not what most people wanted back in 1979, but this is not the first example of shrewd and calculating people taking advantage of an unstable situation.

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 How can you say I am changing the Subject. Your only point is CIA activity 60 years ago. When does the Iranian government have a responsibility to join the modern world and quit threatening to Destroy other nations.The Iranian people are oppressed by their current government as all muslim countries are. Can females wear shorts in England if they choose? Yes.Can they wear shorts in a muslim country without going to jail? No. Islam is an extreme religeon and breeds extremist, open ur eyes

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 yet again you're accusing me of supporting a totalitarian government, it's simply not the case, where as you're actually dismissing the plight of a nation over 20 years, the death of thousands just because they wanted their country to be free of western intervention.

I hate Ahmadenajad, but I can understand why and how he's got to power. Open your eyes.

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 You are a walking contradiction. Then why on earth do you hate ahmadenajad? If you are so understanding of his plight, how could you possibly disagree with his actions. What is the plight of Iran? Destroying Israel?How can the world help Iran with their "plight"? He got to power as an appoinment from the Ayatolla. there are no free elections in Iran. Next you will tell me Saddam held free elections in which he got 100% of the vote. The protesters are POLITICAL PRISONERS, rouge nation

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 Look kid I am guessing you have never been to a muslim country. Well I have. I was talking to a guy who was very nervous.When I had my translator ask why he was so nervous as I am suspecting he maybe an insurgent, he said he was late for mosque and if he was late again he was to be beaten. I asked my translator if he thought he was lying he said "no that is NORMAL". Normal, but there not extreme? Your defending a religeon killing kids in their gods name, or for not being muslim enough

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 After being faced with all these facts you still support the "plight" of the people who support all of these activites. Let that sink in for a moment. You are supporting by proxy the murder of homosexuals and rape victims, but I am a racist, LOL. The plight of Islam is world domination it is in the Koran but the U.S. is the extremeist, LOL. Truth be told Islam scares the crap out of Liberals but they placate them as Neville Chamberlin placated Hitler. Good luck with that! Wake up guy.

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 once again you're either ignoring or manipulating everything i say. When was I understanding of Ahmademajads plight? You're just making stuff up! There haven't been free elections in Iran since the US undermined them, that's my point.

When did I defend Muslim extremism? But yet again you're making horrible, sweeping statements that are just plain prejudice.

There have been widespread cases of child abuse in the Catholic church, it doesn't mean every christian is a filthy pervert.

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 If all of these atrocities are part of the main stream muslim mind set, is that extremism or just plain old Islam. We have a problem in the U.S. with the muslim men killing their wives and daughters in what is called "honor killings". They believe even as U.S. citizen they are entitled to this muslim right without legal recourse. You need to understand a true muslim is an extremist. Any muslim who denounces these activities is actually going against their own religeon. Grow up.

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 ok then genius, what's the plan? What the great beacon of hope of Americas plan for the middle- east? Make them all stop being muslim? Because they are predominately muslim. Nuke them?

Hell if you give them democracy, then you're gonna end up with a muslim dominated government, and by your logic this will be very very bad. So what's the plan? Go on dominating them? Telling them what to believe, you're gonna end up with a situation much worse than Iran.

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 Worse, really? Even modern country including China has problems with muslims. EVERY one! I don't know what the plan is but kissing their ass and trying to appease them is not the answer. Letting Iran get nukes is not the answer. Why don't you ever answer any of my questions? Deflecting?

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 What questions? Something about everything being a muslim problem? I've already shown what bullshit that is, talk about deflection.

[TheRockof90s]

@hazsa19 u cant give Muslims true democracy because the men control the women and a women will not speak out against the men or she will be killed.

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 Further proving your a contradiction.Muslims execute people for being homosexual in the name of Islam, but as a liberal you defend the muslims? In Iran a 16 YO girl was executed for being pregnant even though she was raped by her uncle, but hey so what. As a liberal how can you support a moral police in muslim countries who arrest females for not having a male family member escort, or beating people on site for Islam violations.Seriously how can you not say islam is not extreme

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 You are a waist of time. I have pointed out well known facts of Islam, and you still sympathise with it. Therefore you sympathise with the murder of homosexuals and rape victims as these practices are accepted in the Islamic world. Also stoning to death for infidelity, etc. Is that too hard for you to get. You have failed to answer a multitude of questions, because you know there is no good way for you to spin it. As a person who sympathsizes with these actions you too are responsible.

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 What is the "plight" of the Iranian people? Nuclear weapons? Are you in favor of the mistreatment of women in Islam, as a liberal? Are you in favor of murdering homosexuals, as a liberal? islam is in direct contradiction with all things liberal yet you support their "plight". Really? You need to do some serious self reflecting and determine what you really believe. Stop acting like Neville Chamberlain because if a jihadist could get his hands on you he would cut your head of smiling :)

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 I condemn all serial killers, does that make me a racist? I condemn all pedophiles. Does that make me a racist? You want real hatered read the Koran. I know you have already my iranian friend. "Kill the infidels where you find them" it says. It also describes how mohammed was a pedophile, but hey thats cool. It states you can defy the rules of Islam in order to decieve the "enemy" That would be you on the off chance your not an Iranian. How old are you 12? Do you have a head injury?

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 lol i'm loving this, i'm an 'embarassment to the UK' yet i'm Iranian? And i state YET AGAIN I do not support many actions that the Iranian govt take. When will you get that?

And as i said before i'm Atheist, all religions are a waste of time to me. But you seem to struggle with history. You seem to think that because Iran is a muslim country, they are dangerous and militant. What about Morocco etc? Why is it impossible to understand that there might be other factors? CIA 1950s?!?!?

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 BTW, just because you live in England (if you do) and can read the sign of a university does not mean your Iranian. How could you honestly defend a country that denies basci civil rights to it's own people as a "Liberal". I know Liberals like telling people what to do, don't eat this, drive this car, go green, more govt' is the answer, turn down your thermostat, save more energy, go solar, go electric, blah blah blah. Liberals always want to be judged on intent rather than results.

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 Rather than face the daily reality of Muslims killing people in horriffic ways, you spend your time trying to draw a moral equilvilant to any other crime. Pathetic unless your a Muslim then you are just arguing your side, LOL. Iran is threatening to run the Israeli blockade with the Republican guard. The reason for this is our presidents weakness to defend Israel and his open anti Israeli remarks. Radical Islam is seizing on this and trying to push a war while building a nuke, sick.

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 And why don't you actually adress my point for once? Instead of deflecting it and accusing me of being some sort of muslim iranian radical symapthiser.

I actually can't believe people would be so moronic not to see that the CIAs involvement in Iran might have had something to do with the animosity and distrust shown towards the West.

Grow up, wake up, do anything just to snap out of this world of bullshit that you live in. Jees there must be one hell of a propaganda machine there

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 Since you enjoy name calling so much. Next time you try to pass yourself off as a non-muslim do not use the term West or Westerners silly wanker dicks are for chicks unless your a muslim and it's thursday. Hey wanker why is it Muslim men practice homosexuality on a regular basis. Oh thats right if a woman has pre marital sex they kill her. See Iran. If a woman does not cover her face they kill her. If you get caught having homo sex "they Kill you" Pick any muslim nation. Peaceful huh?

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 'West' is only a term used by Muslims? haha Well i use it regularly in my essays... You do realise all this prefudice BS you're talking about Islam is racism? It's just fact, you're talking bullshit because of their religion. I guess you're gonna pull that haha it's not racism because it's religion blah blah blah

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 Who would you rather see with more influence in the world Iran? China? Russia? N. Korea? Venezuala? You need to read the defintion of Impearialism. America is not an impearialist country. We do not run the government of Japan, S. Korea, or Germany. Japan and Germany were defeated by the allies yet they govern themselves. We are currently assisting Iraq and Afghanistan to establish govenments but they are run by their own people. You know this because they have critized the U.S.

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 Now as to who is the dumb fcuk question. The U.S. NEVER gave Iraq any weapons or weapon systems. If so name just one. We did however give Iraq lots of money in return for cheap oil which they used to buy weapons from the Soviets to fight Iran. Iran over ran the U.S. embassy in the 70's and held american hostages for 0ver 450 days. An act of war by any standard. No we never gave Iran weapons. Ever hear "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"? Now you go read something credible, idiot!

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 Oh brilliant, giving them money to buy arms is much better, keeps your hands clean eh? And yes the US did give Iran weapons under Regan, they hoped it might sway Hezbollah to release hostages. Yet another great intelligence failure in the Persian Gulf...

And do you have any idea why the Iranian revolution came about...? And the American embassy hostages?

Seriously, no leg to stand on.

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 Why do you not raise hell when the insurgents attack civillians in a market with a car bomb and intensionaly kill children. Where is your outrage on that? Please name the weapon systems we gave Iran. Name one, that should be easy as we gave them soooo many.

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@TFPanther28 I can't name a weapons system, probably a typically CIA style cover up of a cluster fuck. But are you actually doubting that the American didn't indirectly supply the Iranians with weapons...the Iran contra affair?

And yes, again I hate terrorists, whether they're Al- Quaeda or IRA.

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 Are you looking forward to Shari Law being instituted in English Law? Is it not the duty of the immigrant to assimilate to the culture he has moved to and not the other way around. do you enjoy Muslims protesting Brittish soldiers in your own country, or are you purposely blind to these action because it is the politically correct thing to do as a liberal. Liberalism is "thinking for yourself" you say. Really? You all sound identical. People bad animals good. Muslims good U.S. bad.

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@TFPanther28 LOL you know nothing about Britain. 98% of immigrants are keen to intigrate into our society peacefully. I'm disgusted by those radical 'muslims' who protested at that parade. I put muslims in inverted commas because i'm friends with enough muslims to know it is a peaceful religion that is hijacked by extremists.

Oh, and as most liberals tend to disagree with neocolonialism (shock horror) we might sound the same to a racist thug. There are many differing schools of thought within.

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@hazsa19 Accidentally sent the same message twice. Still on the subject of Imperialism you need to look no further than your own country. America has never flown their own flag over another countries capital. That is imperialism. The U.S. has been attacked since the 1970's by Muslim extremeist which is actually just main stream Islam if you follow the Koran. What would the U.K. have done after a 9/11 attack? The only way to appease Islam is to allow them to wipe out Israel.

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@TFPanther28 i'm disgusted by many of my country's actions in the past, even as recently as 2003 with Tony Blair. I'm surprised you're not aswel tbh...

AGAIN I want to ask you about the Iranian revolution...the hostage taking...seriously do you have any idea why they might have disliked the Americans so much? Or do you simply believe that Muslims hate Americans and bang there's your answer!

Just look up the CIAs involvement in Iran up to 1979, it's shocking, shameful, awful, genocidal!

[TFPanther28]

@hazsa19 Oh and we have Muslims in our military as well. One of them shot 20 soldiers at FT. Hood. He was a U.S. Army officer. A Major. Google that why don't you. You are all hung up on Iran contra. If anything that at least showed we were trying to fix relations. Do you see Americans online defending the Zulu about Brittish foreign affairs? You are young and it shows. Your proffesors only give you their Liberal version of history. The Muslims have been at war with the world since B.C.

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@TFPanther28 well just this past week a white man in cumbria, england, went on a rampage and shot 12 people dead. 'Google that why don't you' by your logic this must mean all manner of things.

And like I said i'm disgusted by much of what my country has done in the past. You seem unable to accept that Americas actions in the past (EG IRAN FFS FOR THE THIRD TIME) might have actually contributed to some of the hatred that is currently shown towards you!

I know i'de be pissed off...

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@hazsa19 Now, we are currently giving Iraq military equipment I know as I have been deployed there. In the past we i repeat NEVER gave Iraq weapons to fight Iran. We wanted the Khomeini's regime to be toppled. Which is precisely why we Never gave them weapons. I realize liberalism is a form of retardation and that you probaly wander the conspiracy sites believeing everything you read but that does mean that what you read is true. Please name the types of weapons we gave these countries????

[hazsa19]

@TFPanther28 Being liberal isn't a form of retardation, but your racist, ignorant nationalism should be.

I've also got a problem with American mindsets, some of which I witnessed first hand. I don't know if it was murder, this film doesn't even say that. It shows the stresses on Marines and the way the Core teaches them to operate in a certain manner until it makes America look bad.

There is something wrong when so many civillians die in a campaign that was meant to bring freedom.

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@hazsa19 "If you are not a liberal in your 20's you don't have a heart. If your not a conservative in your 40's, you don't have a brain" - Winston Churchill. The problems with your point of view is you base all of your points of view on idealogy not the reality of the situation. In Iraq the terrorist hide behid the civillians when they attack as to casuse intenional civillian casualties in order to give people like you something to gripe about.

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@TFPanther28 Winston Churchill is one of my heroes, and of many British people. It still doesn't change the fact that he was wrong about an awful lot, most often during peace time. Being liberal is being able to think for yourself, an example of this would be not blindly following a retarded cowboy into a huge mess.

And i do gripe about terrorists, I fucking hate them.