Tesla Turbine

[freddymathis820]

Your video went viral on Manila

[joker102877]

I'm sorry, I don't understand.  What's the point?

[gmoody12341]

Can I buy one of these? email me back with a price thanks!

randywork3@hotmail.com

[Ludwikia]

I need magnet bearings for one I'm building, but I can't find a place to get them. Suggestions?



[giftbasketer2]

Your vid went viral on Kosovo

[4spd4life]

whats the purpose of it?

[flamedrag18]

@4spd4life it can be used to run a electric generator with either water or steam.

[javasgl1]

good good

[sarsky9]

respect



[manic74]

And by the way I have two turbochargers sitting in my basement if you would like to know what BOTH sides look like.

[2012listo]

I think you might get better results by running it backwards to the way you have it. Right now you are working against centrifical force.

[1paardenkop]

@2012listo

The way you spin it doesn't have an influence on the centrifical force.

[2012listo]

@1paardenkop You're joking!

[2012listo]

@1paardenkop What I mean is the fluid is being thrown to the outer edge of the discs, why not draw it in through the center and exhaust it at the rim, like a turbo? Seriously, I think it would work better, especially if the intake were carved into a 'scoop', or venturi shape, instead of a simple hole.

[manic74]

@2012listo you got that backwards actually. The turbine side of a turbo intakes at the rim and exhausts at the center. The compressor side work like you explained, which is driven by the turbine side. What he is triin to accomplish is the same thing as the drive (turbine) side of the turbo.

[2012listo]

@manic74 Wow. I might only be the guy who designed the retro-mustang for Ford, and I only owned like 12 custom-built turbo racer-cars (I was AMS first customer) since the mid-80's, and I to this day put custom turbo kits on non-turbo cars, but I'm pretty sure the turbo intakes at the center and exhausts at the rim. Pretty darn sure. I also am the inventor of Flip The Bird, a rack what holds poultry UPSIDE-DOWN. Wanna know what else you have backwards? Accretion. Salvation.

[manic74]

@2012listo Really? You are going to tell me I am backwards when you abviously did not read my post fully. Is it really turbo 101 time for somebody who is a self proffessed turbo expert. Well here we go. A turbo charger for the use of increasing the power out put of internal combustion engines has two distinct sides for it's function to be achieved. A turbine side and a compressor side. The turbine side DRIVES the compressor side. The Turbine side is SPUN by exhaust gasses exitting the engine.

[manic74]

@2012listo The TURBINE side it coupled to the COMPRESSOR side by a shaft rotating on bearings. This shaft DRIVES the compressor wheel which COMPRESSES air to FEED the engine. Go grab a turbo off the shelf (I'm sure you have many) and tell me what the side the exhaust feeds (turbine) looks like. Better yet I will save you the time, the gasses come in at the rim and exit at the center because this action creates forces that better utilize the flow of the gasses to DRIVE something else.

[manic74]

@2012listo As for the last of your unintelligent comment. Where in that polite comment that I originally posted do you get any idea of my salvation? What on earth does accretion and upside down poultry have in common with this? You really should think before you type in the future.

[Ramsez]

what do you use it for?

[Jebus495]

@Ramsez It could be used to convert air, water or steam pressure into electricity by attaching the rotor to some form of generator.

[catalinaumbert]

@Jebus495 No torque, no electricity

[Jebus495]

@catalinaumbert It's hardly "no torque".

This would turn a nice permanent magnet alternator with ease. Even if you had to step it down 20k RPM is no joke o.o

[6969smurfy]

I bet you could nuke power steam, design it quiet & power a submarine or sumptin.... auutt ooohh .... shhhh T ... “fow gat I seid dat”

[DougRH52]

What kind of revs and torque are you getting? Any idea of the volume of air? I'm likewise interested in many such things. But I keep seeing experiments done by 'laymen' that really scare me. One can hear the very high revs of this motor and likewise the same with much other such R&D. Do you have any idea of the kind of energy that it has when wound up & just how much damage it could do to YOU & others present if it explodes? PLEASE use more caution & safety shielding till u KNOW its safe!!!

[newcombhigh]

@DougRH52 PLEASE GUYS! BE CAREFUL! Sweet mother of Jesus, don't you know the POWER in that thinG! You COULD kill someone, YOU need TO use SOME sheilds, SHEILDS!!! AHH oH goD THE torque, the TORQUE MY god man, ohhh, AHH, Please KNOW that is WORKS AND use CAUTion!! PLEASE, OH god, the CHILDren it could hurt, and THE energy...!!!

[DougRH52]

@newcombhigh Mocking shows lack of knowledge & experience of the forces & potential safety hazards. Even with the low masses, with the kind of revs involved, do the math and then tell me that some of these devices made out of brittle plexiglass type materials that can & do break into glass like pieces with similar sharp edges.

As a machinist of 10+ years, I have seen & had my own experiences with such things & I can assure you it is no laughing matter to be dismissed lightly. Fools beware!

[TheRiceowlex]

@DougRH52 That plexiglass is pretty tough. Check out Giant Robot Project here on youtube.

Jaimie made leg joint connectors for this BIG walking robot with plexiglass smaller in width than this mounting apparatus. I do agree safety first however, shields, eye protection..etc

[DougRH52]

@TheRiceowlex Safety

Plexiglass is VERY brittle and tends to shatter into sharp shards like glass. It is also VERY easy to get stress fractures in them that can easily lead to catastrophic failure.

As someone that worked in machine shops for over a decade, having seen things like a chunk of steel about the size of a 1/2" nut go right through somebodies skull and mash their brains up...

[DougRH52]

@TheRiceowlex Safety 2

We see many backyard concoctions here turning 10s & even 100s of thousand revs that those working with them are oblivious to the dangers & nonchalant about the safety hazards of them.

Seeing a disk turning ~ 3500 RPM shatter right into a guys face like I have that took out one eye and damaged the other & left his face looking like spaghetti, they wouldn't be so blithe and dismissive of it.

Calculate the kinetic energy of some of these and then tell me what a joke it is!

[DougRH52]

@TheRiceowlex Explosion Safety shields

Some of the things that we see on here that are running at VERY high revs should be (completely) enclosed in steel safety cages.

[77camosoul]

@DougRH52 "Containment Failure" - A scary phrase to hear. But solid circumference discs are the safest... Kevlar would be better than Steel if you insist upon a cage.

[gogiva]

When you tried to stop it isnt low torque is low inertia. If you want to feel the torque you have to stop it RUNNING with air

[stabenw]

nice!!!

[MilanKarakas]

Again - design flaw. What exhaust holes?! Please follow exact Tesla's idea. He had no holes where you pointed, just one inlet (you did it correctly) and one outlet you _did_not_ provided.

[Th3Su8]

@MilanKarakas

It is not a "design flaw". It is a "modification" of the original design. Do not be such a hater. He took the original and modified it to something that maybe he thought might be better or easier to implement. It is still based on the principles of Tesla's original designs. So leave it for what it is. A well made model of a bladeless turbine.

[MilanKarakas]

@Th3Su8 I am not 'such a hater'. I want just point that Tesla made already all modifications in his patents.

Did you heard sound when air supply is shut down? Turbine begins to brake - behaving like turbo-molecular pump, but with closed exit. The faster you try ti spin it, the more it brakes.

Air density is much higher near edge of discs, and has hard time interacting with walls. Why then not provide opening at other end? Like Tesla did - to leave 'heavy' air (or other fluids) out.

[disturbedone5009]

What did you use for bearings?

[Lokyloky1]

can i buy ???



[MrGabriel3721]

Você num fez esse vídeo não '-'

[jojojunfan]

@madnesscombat5 is mistaken, Tesla wanted to project energy through the air for all mankind. Yes, there was money to be made, but having a buisiness is not wrong or unscriptural. Edison and others like him cheated Tesla because THEY wanted to become rich off the ignorant masses. That is why even today few people know of his inventions.

[lanceehansen]

@jojojunfan want to know a secret? he did it's called radio and with a big enough antena it can be downloaded

[DanFrederiksen]

you can make the sides bladed so you use the aerodynamics to let the air out. a device like this can benefit from appreciation of what's going on and of course energy conservation consideration. efficiency in general. or even more general, design optimization.

[kamikim1]

Energy producing energy ? I still dont get it , what is the practical implimentation of ur project, dont get me wrong but i want to know

[t3hdr00dz]

@kamikim1 energy producing energy?!! that's your question? here's your answer... the energy of a river can be shoved through one of these turbines to create more energy! Do they have a hydroelectric dam where you live?!!

[jewoven77]

@t3hdr00dz we made ours by diverting water from a stream ( aqua ducts) and sell it back to the power co.

[adrianberm]

COCHINADA

[frank0067]

ya but what it is and how does it work?

[RDKamikaze]

Could you hook this up to a small motor and run it as a generator please? I want to see what the load is like! Also, I am using 2.5" hdd platters, 3" pvc pipe seems just too big for it. What should the gaps be?

[morpher44]

nice work. Tesla had such a cool design here.

[yappertrap]

im confused. we need energy for the air compression. does it output more energy then going in?

[Cabuncle]

@yappertrap

of course not,

no confusion required ;-)

[doggie1kitten]

that wasnt a tesla turbine. that was an AIR TURBINE

[etsdeluxe]

make it generate enough power to charge the air. so it will go forever :)

[LiamXaoh]

@etsdeluxe -impossible

[nyse82]

About how much kilowatts does this device deliver? Explain interms of everday items.

[krackerjacx]

i dare you to touch the drive shaft :)

[brandonhughes7]

one Q. can you use eletrice motor intsead of air because i dont have the money to built one of them, even though i love yours because of the look and the cool turbine sound.

[cojobo34]

good job building this! i am going to try to build my own as well.

[HappyJackProduction1]

maybe i havnt thought about it enough but if you use this to create electricity by way of generator, you still need a power source to supply the air...constant refilling the tank, so i guess the question is are you getting more electric output as the input

[NaxTactical]

Could you use a systems of gears to the rotation shaft to make it have more strenght? Thanks. -Nax

[AdlerMow]

@NaxTactical I actually belive in that! Im thinking about use one of this for a DIY compressed air motorcycle. Its fairly easy to make, very simple and reliable. Truly, Tesla was a sort of genius that humanity will hardly compreend some day!

[NaxTactical]

@AdlerMow Together with DaVince and a couple of other guys... Hehe... They were gods! -Nax

[amh1230]

rotary engines ftw! though i will duly admit - tesla was the most pure and raw form of genius in his day.

[dannynlore888]

has some lag but not bad!

[d240786]

WTF I can make something out of paper and a straw which will react the same as this to air being forced across the surface!!!!

How fucking dumb?

I'm amazed your like a fucking magician.....

[AlchemistHawk]

I would imagine these being very useful for moving things. torque is a major downfall lol

[TaylorHolmes]

I was a little disappointed when after watching this vid did a wiki search on tesla turbines. I assumed since Tesla invented it, it had something to do with electricity. I guess not. very interesting idea, though. That Nicola Tesla was full of weird shit that somehow worked.

[MrLuka58]

is it water or air

[douge95]

@MrLuka58 HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA NOOB

[omerta410]

very good video, very nice construction. what is the pressure operated the turbine?

[olympicstyles]

Ltmagnet program is spam and a pile of poop thanks for wasting my time

[THUNDERBLIZZARDRDEP]

Hook a load to it, then let's see the output!

[legoman6986]

so does this one use air instead of electricity?

[Films4You]

Looks, as sounds like, the energy input is a lot greater than the energy output...(all that air presure motor takes energy. Or am I incorrect?

[piespokladowy]

What is minimal pressure to starts this turbine?

[nckkinney]

why cant we make cars out of these?

[zimtower]

If you are thinking about using harddrive platters, don't. Most harddrive platters would explode because a lot are made of glass.

[arpitdwivedi]

power output???? torque?? HP??how much..

[PUNKROCKINTHISSHIT]

are you using hardrive disks or just chromed metal plates?.. also im sure just putting your hand on that thing while it spins would get to be painful if you are using it to power somthing.

[CaptainAndrew1991]

What kind of endurance can this type provide? I don't mean how long the engine would last, but how long it can run on a practical tank of fuel.

[jib1000]

What if instead of using this turbine you simply used the electricity that you use to power your compressor and plugged an electric motor into the wall instead? Surely that is better than taking electricity, converting it into air pressure, and converting that into mechanical energy. You're just making more steps, steps that involve loss of energy.

[adamtreyhyatt]

@jib1000 this is a concept.in the real world app. you would use steam power instead of compressed air. this is just a quick and easy demo

[jib1000]

@adamtreyhyatt Yeah that's called a steam turbine, they've been in use since the late 1800's. Your design has also be around for almost 100 years. If it were efficient it would be in use today... it is not.

[HeadShot360IN]

can you please make a video of it going to like 40,000 rpm?? and not stop it or decelerate it ever, just go faster and faster till it breaks

[vivsekozli]

how many discs are you using? did you press fit them? the turbine i made has 15 disks all machined from one aluminum piece with the shaft, check it out :p

[aflo661]

Its usefull if high rpm is needed, but for turning steam power into electricity there are more efficient mehtods, the less moving things you can have the better.

Nice work btw

[ramicaza]

how efficient is this? like in %

[hazmat440]

"Houston we have lift off"

[Ticklemytummy]

Ummm....exactly what is the point? You're using an air compressor (presumably run off electricity) to do what every kid with access to a garage and some old wheel bearings has done. Does it serve some purpose other than spinning real fast? Can't make electricity if yer using electricity to make it. Guess I'm asking if it actually has an application of some sort.

[e2emceesquared]

The application is to convert steam into electricity. Either using a heating source as the sun or other means ie geothermal. The air compressor is for testing.

[tracey6999997777770]

you dont understand the point.

its meant so that you can use any type of fuel with little to no pollution. its not suppose to be free energy think before you speak.

[maco10810]

@Ticklemytummy - a 9" in diameter engine can make 220 hp

google teslaengine

use a a fresnel lense to make steam use one of these to charge a battery pack - use caravan appliances in your home they all 12V and you dont have to pay for electricity ever again

[PerfectBeings]

Can you use water instead of air to run this thing?

[EngineTechnology1]

You will have to put a load on it and do real work, Tesla turbine offers no torque, its just a waste of energy....

[EngineTechnology1]

My engines are simple and powerful, no other engines offer greater torque and efficiency

[panzarw]

better for it be above 20k rpms so it wouldnt hurt your hearing and while its running you could concentrate better.

by the way has any body messured the torque it give out ?

[TheTruthPusher]

Use platmun hard drive discs or aluminum, or copper and spin a donut mag with it,

You'll have a unique N-machine.

[R3MUS2007]

you should have less slots on your disks, and slightly larger. If you made your casing out of solid acrylic and sealed the ends with plexiglass plates, you might be able to pump it all the way past 100psi with no problems.

[crazyivan030983]

what top RPM did You get?

[Dingo1336]

@crazyivan030983

"This is a tesla turbine that I have just finished and I am running it on about 45-50 psi and it is achieving speeds of about 15,000-20,000 rpm's."

[imikewillrockyou]

Tesla was just amazing. And this turbine is one of my favorites. I think this idea may be ready to make a big come back in small scale alternative energy production.

[boxa888]

the tesla turbine is so universal! you could make a pump, make a hydrothermal turbine, make a compressor, make a jet engine, make a car engine, make it mix liquids.

so universal powerful and easy to make! thats what tesla wanted, no crazy pistons, no crazy intake out take setups, just the compression and expansion of liquids and gases as the system of operation!! i would love to make the jet engine model, it would be very very powerful!!

[CaptainAndrew1991]

@boxa888 Not a jet engine. :(

That would be nice, though.

[boxa888]

@CaptainAndrew1991, there was the compression stage tesla turbine, the same basic model of the first jet engine. check it out, it was his british turbine patent, one of the last patents he made. it has the compression stages to allow the jet turbine effect produced in todays jet engines. that is what i mean in vesatility.

[CaptainAndrew1991]

@boxa888 But would it create thrust or torque in that configuration?

[boxa888]

@CaptainAndrew1991 no one to date has built it yet, if you have looked at the engine model it has many stages of compression,that is huge in build a jet engine, tesla talked about a turbine with the power to keep a aircraft suspended in the air because of the power of the turbine he proposed, one turbine alone has not alot of power,but when they are put in a series configuration like the english patent he had,you should get some high power,without the need of gas, just high speed electric motor

[kberzok]

@boxa888 compression of liquids?

[hazmat440]

Nice job, all you need now is a little supercharger, have you seen the video called truck turbine engine? Best of luck

[heavym3tal]

What is your disk gap spacing?

[madnesscombat5]

Its kinda sad how tesla was overlooked and how edison got all the fame. Tesla was far more inteligent and much more of a visionary then edision. Tesla even invented his own electric engine which he mounted on a car, it was said to go up to speeds of 90MPH. People accused him of being insane and harnessing dangerous powers of nature, so he was outraged, the electric powered car was never to be seen from him again.

[dvdprui]

Very true. The tesla turbine is inherently more efficient than other forms of propulsion, and actually tesla desgined the first gas turbines by making gas turbine versions of his tesla turbine. It's much easier and simpler to make than a regular turbine, and even easier to make than some electric motors, with a better power-to-weight ratio.

[a2zhandi]

@madnesscombat5 Edison had political backing. Tesla was a nobody. That's where Edison's fame came from.

In fact, I believe some of Edison's ideas were stolen from Tesla

However, Tesla is becoming more and more popular by the second!

[ghostcivic99]

@a2zhandi im sorry sir the only thing come close to stolen was the halogen bulbs and the only thing was the use of the item. and that idea was improved apon 10 fold. edison did not like tesla because his idea's were better than his own. See tesla came up with AC (alternation current) and edison came up with DC (Direct Current) edison didnt like this because the uses for AC are far more outstanding than DC. Guest who bough all the patents to Tesla's work? the U.S.A. Government. :) HELLO!!!

[AudibleAura]

@madnesscombat5 people tend to fear new things... like a round planet, and how the sun is the center of the solar system

[chsxtian]

@madnesscombat5 he was also said to have made an earthquake machine, and lots of other stuff he didn't make.

[insightllc]

@madnesscombat5 Tesla hid his inventions so powers that be could sell power to you and me. Nikola Tesla made earthquakes in Alaska in 1899 and YOU are going to hell. So saith The Lord God. -Biblical Prophet

[madnesscombat5]

@insightllc wait, what are you on about? please explain yourself!

[wiredforstereo]

@madnesscombat5 Unfortunately, like many of his level, he had flaws in the self promotion and acting like a nut departments. With great genius comes deficiency in other areas. It's just part of the way intelligence works.

[DougRH52]

@madnesscombat5 Not entirely. During the 1990s, Tesla's work was among the top ten 'body of work' that relevant scientists world wide studied. His 'invention' of AC power, which competed with DC power that was common at the time and we know the results. Huge AC generating stations at Niagara Falls were built which are still be in use today; or at least highly, ongoing updated ones. His work lay foundations for Radio. The masses may be more aware of Edison, but who is being researched now?

[a2zhandi]

@DougRH52 haha your right. NOBODY researching who was it? The other guy... Not tesla hehe

[DougRH52]

@madnesscombat5 Tis common with people that are '(way) ahead of their time'. Whose work is getting much more attention and R&D done on it now? Not Edison. Plus the US government was VERY aware at some of the profound possibilities of his work. When he died in his hotel room, US government agents stationed in the next room IMMEDIATELY confiscated all of his works that they could and 'classified' it! So some were VERY aware of the significance and possibilities inherent in Tesla's work.

[renderrob]

I recommend that you watch the two google videos with Jeffrey Hayes of TEBA, if you haven't already. The nozzle, PSI at the nozzle, and RPM are all very important to achieving real efficiency and horse power with these engines. I suspect that you'll need more exhaust holes, since you are using holes instead of the 3-spoke pattern of Tesla's original design. I hope to pickup an inexpensive milling machine for building one of these.

[SUPAPwN0o0]

nevermind

[SUPAPwN0o0]

shouldn't me make cars like this? instead of engines use theses on the wheels? I'm just saying because i think this can be done.

[thEsPamer106]

dude nice i hadn't realized why you had put holes on both sides till just now, to prevent it from propeling itsself around the room....!

[HalfNekoJames]

actually the holes are for the exhaust.

[thEsPamer106]

well obvioislly, but i was jsut pointing out the fact that they are on both side(s).

[MrfixitRick]

Good work! Tesla Turbines Rule! (or will soon, hehe)

[11supaman11]

you can make a dual system as a pump. one for water pump (modified holes) and one as the compressed air turbine, one guy does a really good job with this and pumps some koolaid

[silentbobbie]

bigger + water instead of gas

water from great height

[Gorfickle]

What kind of air volume does that require? Know the CFM or anything like that?

[FireHazard101]

I have an 80 gallon compressor if that helps and it take a little while to get it to turn on nut I am not sure.

[w1ck3dz0d1ac]

What is the max psi, and can you run it on steam?

[Gorfickle]

Yeah, I've heard them being run off of steam but the max PSI depends on the material of the platters or whatever you might call them.

[Gorfickle]

I've been seeing these things more and more now. What's a real world application for one of these things? How would someone use it and what would be it's purpose. Very cool indeed.

[FireHazard101]

The real world applications would be such as applying it to a generator or putting it in a car (Which has been done) but they are very effiecient so i'm sure with how the world is now we will start to see more of them.

[masm60]

@FireHazard101 But where does the air pressure come from if you put it in a car. I must be missing something.

[AudibleAura]

@Gorfickle they dont seem to be able to do much work with that low torque. Maybe use water instead of air??

[iwatchfunny]

@Gorfickle They use them in dentist drills X_X