What is Net Neutrality

[mitchellmira13]

I want this video on my A130 unit.

[edwolf1127n]

This video went viral on Dublin

[unkrypt]

no more,more and more videos about illuminati wad deleted by youtube fuck youtube,don`t trust in google no more

[Dre4dwolf]

More Bs from the Govt.

People will choose for themselves the ISP, if the ISP does not give full access people will dump it and find a provider that does, all this BS is just more government power grabs.... just like the TSA, theres not even 1 law giving TSA power, the TSA started up and instituted policies(not laws) to go around groping peoples junk for the fun of it... copying peoples credit card info... violating human rights to privacy.... your all suicidal if you think govt is gona protect.

[TheRevengeOfThePC]

@Dre4dwolf While I agree with most of that, this complaining about the TSA grabbing your junk is completely unjustified. Some terrorists were f'd up enough to put bombs in their underwear, so we would be idiots not to check there, however uncomfortable it may be. I assure you, being dead is much worse than having some TSA agent check you for a bomb. BTW do you really think that they will do anything too bad in front of 200 other people waiting in security lines?

[conanthebarbarian333]

The FCC during Christmas when nobody was paying attention grants itself powers over the internet market disregarding court orders against it. Congress has not voted for it. The FCC is a rogue agency that uses illegal powers and dirty tricks. They believe in the ends justify the means. Net Neutrality is a Marxist ruse to destroy free enterprise competition and ultimately free speech. Net Neutrality will lead to lead to less freedom of speech and higher prices.

[Nerocification]

Obama’s “FCC Commissioner Mignon Clyburn Free Internet a Civil Right for Every Nappy-Headed Child” watch?v=JWETGCggzcE She also voted for Net Neutrality,which could ultimately censor the internet impeding our first amendment rights of Freedom of Speech. watch?v=lGplqSh8fYU

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Her dad is James Clyburn, former house majority WHIP. She’s probably aware our unfunded liabilities are $115 Trillion per debt clock.

[MoJoSB]

My first action against the ISPs and you can join me.

Ask your ISP, to give you the new customer prices. Mine got lowered from $40 to $20 and all I had to do was threaten to leave. If you don't have a switching option, ask anyway. You have nothing to lose.

Show them they are not the only ones who can act like capitalist. As a matter of fact, I'm asking for a new modem too.

Spread the word, I believe we can cost ATT, Comcast and Time Warner a few hundred thousand.

[MoJoSB]

It's over folks, why bother.

It's all just a big waste of time. However, I have one suggestion.

Use as much bandwidth as you humanly can. Download the library of congress and then delete it and download it again.

Good luck folks with your internet, I'm going to USE the internet know and take as much as I can that isn't bolted down. Everything short of being illegal.

And maybe even breaking the laws sometimes. How knows.

[vgcq02]

this video was made in 2006. Back then the repubs had congress and allowed the system to get corrupted.

[a7chemist]

@vgcq02 it passed 2-3 the two repubs voted against this

[Alvin691]

MKLine pushing more nanny state control. Free market prevents all these. By the way, vonage is digital and would not have "static". It would drop packets, get your story straight. Also, you build a strawman about potential misuse scenarios. Then you spin that your ISP has incentive to degrade your access and other provider's content. You claim that it has happened and continue to happen but provide no proof that it has happened. SWITCH CARRIERS.

[manofoss]

Sooooo... Net Neutrality means that if I'm unhappy with the service of my internet provider I should use the power of government to force my provider to do as i wish rather than to take my business elsewhere. If the phenomenon described here becomes too common the provider which did not do this would quickly get most of the customers and put the others out of business. I would go to the provider willing to sign a contract to the effect that this would not be done - wouldn't you?

[Hipster55]

lol find someone else...cause God knows we all have a dozen or more ISPs in our town to choose from.

[peapodsss]

I don't have much faith in competition. If the free market would take care of consumer protection we would not need child labor laws. 

[Alvin691]

@peapodsss Spoken like a true liberal

[peapodsss]

You gotta love the idiots clamoring about 'competition' If that's the case why do we have child labor laws? Dont like Safeway having 12 year olds stock shelves for 10 hours a day? Shop somewhere else! right?

All I see is a bunch of AT&T / Verizon apologists.

[Alvin691]

@peapodsss proressive

[twodogs333]

You should ALL watch this!!

[dbkdstryem]

crime is bad. but if you take away my CHOICE to commit crime, you are a totalitarian facist dictator.

[finalorbit]

Thanks for this explanation. It was exactly what I was looking for.

[timothylcrowe1]

I would just FIRE my ISP.

If I only had only one option.

I would Buy a satellite dish and buy my internet from the Brits or the Germans.

I still have options.

[CommSense]

rather than passing a net neutrality law they should repeal state and local granted monopolies to internet providers and other communications.

[peapodsss]

@CommSense

Why? Whats wrong with making a law that says ISPs must provide access to all parts of the internet? What will that do besides preventing customers from being screwed over?

[CommSense]

@peapodsss

Instead of passing a law and funding (with tax dollars) an overpaid bureaucracy to carry out the law the state could easily repeal its monopoly privileges to utilities competition would weed out internet providers which don't offer free range to consumers. Cheaper and better service, with the stroke of a pen.

[Alvin691]

Again, internet is a service (a good) to be purchsed and not provided by the state. Step back from Marx and think for a second.

[CommSense]

@Alvin691

I wasn't invoking Marx at all.

[AndyWright68]

This is bull! The government needs to stay out of it. "What if one day", this idiot claims. If my isp did that, which it hasn't and probably never will, I will switch services. Competition will cure this problem that doesn't exist. STOP NET NEUTRALITY!

[Liynkx]

Of all the things that threaten our progression, this MUST be strucken down. The internet is the last thing we have left, if they start censoring that, we're in for some shit. I think I speak for everyone when we have John McShithead to thank for introducing the anti neutrality bill, while not even being able to send a god forsaken email or even get on google. How can you run for president of a progressive country and be in the wrong age like that?

[khlawait]

excellent explanation...keep up the good work! Net Neutrality should be our fundamental right!!!

[ChiefCabioch]

why do we need a law for something that hasnt happened yet ?....I have experienced most of these scenerios, and all I do is switch ISP's.....that alone is all you need, thats Competition....something the LEFT cant seem to Grasp....only "CONTROL"

[minc727]

That is not always an option for some people.

I live in New England, and I don't exactly live in the city, to say the least. Due to this reason, the only ISP that I have acess to is comcast. I can't switch ISP's, it just simply is not an option. I use bittorrent to send vacation photographs and videos to other members of my family, and comcast has already started interfering with the bittorrent protocol.

[IleanaCosanziana]

come to think of it i'm not watching this video by choice. i've been redirected/linked to it.

i'm using youtube and google as search engines just because their competition is weak and they, more or less, have monopoly. i guess voting against net neutrality will help the smaller or newer sites evolve. i can see the advantage of that to an economically challenged world, but i can also see how that resembles communism.

[Bourneswimmer]

I wish i was older i would vote

[gillianseed]

Net monopoly, this should be illegal.

[Roboburrr]

net monopoly, nice find of words.

[CoxXximus]

My Advice:

SNIPE a few CEO's and GIVE THE REASON WHY ON YOUTUBE FROM A PUBLIC COMPUTER IN ANOTHER CITY/COUNTRY

THat way you'll MAKE THE REST OF EM' FEAR 'BAD' DECISIONS :)

[joeawesome]

three cheers for net neutrality!!! the coporate machine is just trying to control us into doing what they want (join the fight)

[Nexxion]

It's up to the consumer to find the right ISP to use. If they don't like what their ISP is doing, then find someone else. We can't have the government manage the internet for many reasons, but a main one being that they could do the exact same thing these Internet Companies are doing. What we need a free non-profit open internet organization across the US.

[iso100]

@Nexxion Hmm. I only have TWO options in my area. Verizon FiOS (which I have) and Comcast. That's not much of a choice if both of those ISPs are doing bandwidth throttling for specific sites and services. Also, how do you know what services/ports/sites they are affecting before becoming a customer?

[paulitics08]

Why can't the consumer decide to use another ISP? Consumer choice is what we should be focusing on, not government regulation!

Ron Paul 08

[9Voul]

Depending on the region you are living in, you might not have a choice. Personally, I can only use Comcast because it's the only ISP in my area. I can't choose another ISP unless I use dial-up, and dial-up is not very good to use nowadays.

[thesnake383]

Sup? A one year later response! XD

You must live in the north, yes? Well of course, moving to a new location just to get a new ISP is out of the question.

I have AT&T where I live, so I don't have much problems with them.

But I've read from other Internet posts that Comcast has state govenment-sanctioned monopolies. (Is this correct?) If anything the people should rise up and file a monopoly suit against Comcast.

[Ervine4]

think about how annoying it would be to have to constantly switch ISP because they started blocking content. thats the problem.

[lilsk8erkid]

net neutralitie- will u be free, free to search truth

truth of lies

moo-free

democracy now!

[saltjoe]

Q: How did a technical (prioritizing content for delivery method) become a "freedom of speech" issue?

A: eBay-Yahoo-Google-Amazon's ingenuity to dupe uninformed pseudo-intellectual-amateur-ac­tivist wannabes to fight for their battle. NN is Content vs Pipeline providers (giant companies, I wouldn't shed a tear for either one). Read both sides (Bob Kahn & Vint Cerf), before you decide. The video's scare tactic is the same as right-wingers' national-security scare to go to Iraq.

[redsquarecrazies]

hmmm

[ynnyytty]

I understand your point of view. I believe that every ISP has the right to restrict web pages and data of their choice. There will always be some company that doesn't restrict internet usage and that company will obviously be the most wanted ISP by the people.

I do hope though that there will be net-neutrality because people like me with a lot of small internet sites will be crushed by the larger sites.

[bigredk001]

Everyone who promotes Net Neutrality believes that without it, the internet will become worse, that service providers will without regard of their customers desires degrade the services of websites and content from those who don't pay extra fees. If this were to occur, I suspect you will see consumer backlash just like those who Boycott Dell for sending their tech support to India. Dell is currently desperately scrambling to return support back to North America.

[darntastic]

FIGHT FOR NET NEUTRALITY!!!

Stick it to the man and unclog those tubes (thanks Ted Stevens :)

Screw the big ISP's and stand up for freedom of speech.

NET NEUTRALITY = GOOD

[micahstubz]

bull!!!! Government should not control the internet just like it has everything else. Socialism, anyone?

[Fauble2000]

Exactly, the government should not control the internet, that is why you should be opposed to NN. NN is actually a NEW law about the internet.

[darntastic]

Fauble you are a misinformed idiot. Net Neutrality is about about the government forcing the ISP's not regulate the internet on their OWN behalf. Its not regulation, it IS leveling the playing field.

FIGHT FOR NET NEUTRALITY!!!

[EnigmaticSilhouette]

can we just like...get rid of the goverment? (j/k cause I know it'll never happen) its just annoying how everythings about money and control..I mean, freedom? now-a-days..whats that?? heh..next thing you know, their ganna get rid of the internet completely! I heard that Bush wanted a way to spy on everyones e-mail, dude, thats violation of privacy!!

[Fauble2000]

If you want to get rid of government control OPPOSE Net Neutrality Legislation. Currently there is no law requiring NN, there hasn't ever been one.

[exeterplaya]

why can't we be friends, why cant we be friends?

[posthumanfetus]

If suddenly the government didn't exist, I wonder if anyone would notice unless you told them.

[PuppetSoul]

I <3 U. Have my manbabies.

[furiacreativita]

DAMN YOU CONGRESS

[geandily]

Durrrrrr you have no idea what you're talking about, you've been tricked by a corporation into fighting their competitors

[fight1985]

fucking capitalist nazis

[yellowtruck]

+ points to you sir.

[goodlistenertx]

Right now, if one wants to connect to the internet whether by phone company or cable, prices for service vary based on whether one wants 1.5, 7, or a higher connection speed. I don't like that now. I can't imagine where on my limited income I could not have total access to all viewpoints or chats with other parts of the world without paying a fortune if content providers who can't pay the fee are left out or service is degraded.

[ourcontact]

FUD

[smysnk]

LoL. You said that VOIP line could become staticy or filled with noise.. Thats just bullshit on your part. This could only happen if the packets being sent were corrupted in which case your computer would not acknowledge the packet was received correctly and would request the packet be re-sent.

[songus]

Not really, if ISP'S move the packets to the "slow" lane (QOS) then you would hear jitter or delays

[smysnk]

It may be different for other clients.. but it should be crystal clear regardless of how long it takes to send over.. the only variable is how long it takes to send over.

[hyco80]

Where IP packets are lost or delayed at any point in the network between VoIP users, there will be a momentary drop-out of voice. That drop out is perceived by the end user as distortion (jitter) & poor call quality. Some VoIP providers employ a buffer to allow time for some malformed packet retransmission (think streaming video buffer) though it is typically very short. Longer duration buffers introduce a noticeable delay in the conversation & are not used.

[hyco80]

Smysnk, the argument is for Net Neutrality rites not simple terminology mistakes, minor generalizations, or your lack of understanding.

The video adequately conveys the general idea behind Net Neutrality using VoIP as an accurate example for reduced QoS.

[hyco80]

The terminology used in the video is wrong but you must have realized it's geared towards a layman.

VoIP is a time dependant protocol -- intentionally degraded service has a comparable outcome to numerous packet retransmissions -- receipt of the necessary information is slowed or worse, intentionally denied.

[smysnk]

Transmission of voice will never send a voice data segment breaking in between speech, it will wait for a silence. Jittery or noisy both erroneous claims.

Delayed conversation is about as much as you can take this with proper communication software.

[wwwSTANDUPORLANDOcom]

Quote "Not possible the effect will occur at the "carrier" level which ISP's use to connect you to the interet. All ISP's will be affected and will not have control. The video is "wrong" when stating "ISP" but they are just trying to simplify the issue"

If you are wrong, it's bad for all of us, if you are right nothing will change. Error on the side of caution.

[fintheman]

Ummm

Just change ISP's.

[ILikeInfo2]

Not possible the effect will occur at the "carrier" level which ISP's use to connect you to the interet. All ISP's will be affected and will not have control. The video is "wrong" when stating "ISP" but they are just trying to simplify the issue.

[fireball74]

ISP, Internet Service Providers, A.K.A. Verizon, SBC/AT&T, and other carriers (including cable companies) want net neutrality gone. They want a piece of both ends of their pipes, for the same bandwidth, and that's just really wrong.

Either charge content providers and provide free service to individuals, or charge individuals and keep the neutrality agreements, but not both. That's really greedy.

[experimentjon]

This is a great explanation of net neutrality. I finally get it!

[k0balt]

eh lets get a law passed so everything is in stone and cant be changed as the internet always is

[asi594]

just take china's restrictions on net users as an example of what can be done.

[Arachnaboy]

More people need to understand that net neutrality is GOOD! This is a really important thing to watch, if a little confusing at first.

[Kulanose]

Wait... What?... I don't know of any ISP that supports net neutrality (actually they've speant millions lobbying against it) and it doesn't mean they get any more money...

Also, to some extent, this already does happen.

[sandman9r]

This is one side of the story. ISP's feel that the mega sites are hosting content on their infrastructure. Google doesn't pay or share costs with any ISP. Therefore, understandably, the ISP feels a need to shape traffic.

[Kulanose]

But at the same time, these mega sites already pay millions upon millions for bandwidth... Should they have to pay for the bandwidth spent on every single network their traffic passes through?... Don't the bigger networks already get paid for their peering agreements anyway? Regardless, how many times should someone be expected to pay for bandwidth?

[polorized]

Bullshit. The users of Google are already paying their ISPs for that.

[Kulanose]

Erm... Biased?...  For who? The consumer? non-telcoms?

[DKNUCKLES]

Your retarded...go live in Cuba or Russia if you think that's biased

[sciencebzzt]

good point

[S4C]

good presentation

[richylira]

In México we have this problem now...

With the Internet Service of TELMEX we cant use VoIP like using Skype for phone calls, etc...

And this is the first step...

[foxmajik]

Chinese firewall.

[dixta81]

What a lot of American people don't appreciate is that this has ramifications for people overseas as well. A lot of content is served from the US that people overseas want access to (and vice versa). Are overseas surfers going to be restricted to what they can see on US networks, and are overseas companies going to be crippled by a sudden loss of traffic from the US?

[tfbbm]

Just saw this on a Bulletin. Had to have it.

[TheBSG]

Sure, at first it might only cost 2 bucks to have full access, right? What they were once doing for "free" (They're not actually doing anything. It's more work to censor sites) would suddenly magically start to cost far more, and you'd have to pay great deals of money to have a normal speed access level. This is a violation of freedom of speach. This is wrong.

[TheBSG]

This video doesn't talk about something important: What if I want to put a website up? I sign up with server beach and get things rolling: But anyone using AOLTimewarner can't access my website: You must purchase "publish" speeds from AOL.

[ArielCaboob]

Dude if this where to happen google will make their own ISP and leave it how it was before everyone would switch( at least I would )

[dreaminvasion]

very informative, thanks.