What of valor dear sir, is this not an important virtue that should be included in your list? Would you not need valor to be magnanimous, tempered, or to pursue wisdom?
@PistonDriven Yeah I'd agree with that humour often comes from being able to look at things in a different light or in multiple ways, then expressing one of those that has joy instilled in it, e.g "well at least you didn't slip in the milk after spilling it lol" ya know what I mean?
Hmm. Freedom as a value. I will have to think about that. Freedom, though, is a funny thing. I don't think our ancestors had the concept of personal freedom or individual liberty we do today. Rather, they thought in terms of Tribe instead of individual. Off hand, I would say that Freedom is really Strength, or a byproduct of it. It is the ability to do what you want to do.
Well, they had the freedom to take their freedom for granted until it was taken away from them. You know, water meant nothing too me, 'till my well went dry...
I think stronger people than you and I have suffered tyranny still. And speaking of ancestors, I'm afraid some of mine may have had serfs or been serfs themselves, even. They, at least, may have known the value of freedom. I am speaking of the Norse here, of course, and it may have been more relevant to them than to the Celts.
I would consider "Freedom" as a value if I really understood exactly what it meant, and what it might have meant to our ancestors. And, when I speak of ancestors, I am speaking of Iron Age and prior.
90% of people had to work the land for a people to survive. I am not sure that freedom as we think of it would have made sense to them, or that they had it at all.
What of valor dear sir, is this not an important virtue that should be included in your list? Would you not need valor to be magnanimous, tempered, or to pursue wisdom?
Mr1scrappy1 2 months ago
Kind of looks like ADF's list of virtues.
Naiant 1 year ago
great vid! Thank you.
HergerSeamas 2 years ago
Wait, I'm not done yet. Where goes a healthy sense of humor. Wisdom?
PistonDriven 2 years ago
A kind of Beauty? Interesting to think about.
fiacharrey 2 years ago
@PistonDriven Yeah I'd agree with that humour often comes from being able to look at things in a different light or in multiple ways, then expressing one of those that has joy instilled in it, e.g "well at least you didn't slip in the milk after spilling it lol" ya know what I mean?
LokiNoir 1 year ago
Err, and by the by: first! (feck! I'm late...)
PistonDriven 2 years ago
Oh hi there, my Celtic cousin. Add to the values this: freedom, and I'm all for it. And 7 sounds better than 6, no?
PistonDriven 2 years ago
Hmm. Freedom as a value. I will have to think about that. Freedom, though, is a funny thing. I don't think our ancestors had the concept of personal freedom or individual liberty we do today. Rather, they thought in terms of Tribe instead of individual. Off hand, I would say that Freedom is really Strength, or a byproduct of it. It is the ability to do what you want to do.
fiacharrey 2 years ago
Well, they had the freedom to take their freedom for granted until it was taken away from them. You know, water meant nothing too me, 'till my well went dry...
PistonDriven 2 years ago
In what way do you see Freedom as being different from Strength as I defined it here?
fiacharrey 2 years ago
I think stronger people than you and I have suffered tyranny still. And speaking of ancestors, I'm afraid some of mine may have had serfs or been serfs themselves, even. They, at least, may have known the value of freedom. I am speaking of the Norse here, of course, and it may have been more relevant to them than to the Celts.
PistonDriven 2 years ago
I would consider "Freedom" as a value if I really understood exactly what it meant, and what it might have meant to our ancestors. And, when I speak of ancestors, I am speaking of Iron Age and prior.
90% of people had to work the land for a people to survive. I am not sure that freedom as we think of it would have made sense to them, or that they had it at all.
fiacharrey 2 years ago