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  • man you rock climbers are bloody crazy all i can say!!

  • I remember the good ol' days when one could top out on a crack in the gorge and then would have to look around or fashion their own webbing to tie around trees to rap down....the good ol' days. Now climbing is soo trendy we have to bolt everything......

  • @rngrchad So you would consider cliff top preservation trendy? Is it possible that bolted top anchors are a way to preserve a fairly sensitive ecosystem with thin soil on top of the cliff. Being someone who also climbed extensively in the "good ole days" I have seen the destruction at the top of many routes because of climbers repeatedly scrambling and thrashing around on top and doing damage. The ways of the good ole days were not always better.

  • whats the deal with lowering down of that route, do you clip in to the achors, untie then run the rope through the rings then get lowered down, or do you use some biners on them saving time and untieing. and if you did that wouldnt you then have to go to the top of the cliff to retrive your biners?

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