It's the invisible dragon in the garage, all over again. The theists know in advance how every test will fail; thus, regardless of what they believe they believe, their actual internal models of reality don't contain a god with those properties.
(ignoring for now the few theists who actually do believe - those people are more deluded than most)
@ThinkingSpeck Until this is answered, there is reason to believe Jesus is deceitful, or at the very least, in error,or the Bible is in error.
Since this cannot possibly be the case, I've had people insist that I must have been lying about having written any numbers at all. Being a tool of Satan and whatnot... ^_^
It's funny how people can mangle concepts in order to make them fit into their personal worldview.
Personally, I think the biggest reason to doubt Jesus is that he clearly and repeatedly said he would be back sometime in the first century AD - his followers took that at face value, and only after that prediction failed did they start interpreting such things differently.
I'll consider that you might not have written the numbers, but only once many of the other possibilities have been exhausted. That's a million million options - I'm not holding my breath...
@ThinkingSpeck Yes, that's a good one too. The end should have come "Before this generation dies." and "Before you finish going through the cities of Israel."
Assuming I'm being honest, It's actually closer to One-Sextillion-Ten-Quadrillion options. =D I didn't want anyone to get lucky.
Another one I like is when Jesus said that "Not one Jot or Tittle" of the Law would change, right after altering the law in regards to stoning adulteresses. "Let He who is without sin, cast the first stone."
Granted, I only considered the first number - adding a second unknown number squares the number of possibilities.
That bit actually makes sense to me - the Law carries on unchanged, but Christians are no longer bound by it (however immoral the scapegoat justification for that is). Exceptions for the Ten Commandments are a bit awkward, of course, and cherrypicking stuff against things like homosexuality is just plain silly.
Granted, I only considered the first number - adding a second unknown number squares the number of possibilities.
That bit actually makes sense to me - the Law carries on unchanged, but Christians are no longer bound by it (however immoral the scapegoat justification for that is). Exceptions for the Ten Commandments are a bit awkward, of course, and cherrypicking stuff against things like homosexuality is just plain silly.
“If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down from here. For it is written: “‘He will command his angels concerning you to guard you carefully; they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’”
Jesus answered, “It is said: ‘DO NOT PUT THE LORD YOUR GOD TO THE TEST.’ ”
@ThaDynastyRecordsTV you know if you add a 1 to the front of that(like you would if calling from a land line rather than cell phone) that's an 11 digit number. Jus saying :)
Sorry to be pedantic, but integers are all real numbers. The decimal point just comes at the end of an integer, and we don't usually bother to write it.
father God i pray that he see you when he starts to see him self for what you created him to be abnd help him change who the world has influence him to be.....father love on him and teach him how to seek you not by test but by faith amen
Thank you for the good wishes. But I cannot accept anything on faith, only proof. Moses got it. Job got it, The apostles got it too. If I can't get it also, then I guess I am doomed in His eyes.
If my interpretation is true, this test should work... =\
To ask someone who is already a believer to pray for proof. Why isn't it working?
@L00NGB00W@L00NGB00W hey just checking on you brother....and im going to give you eleven reason why God loves you 1. Cause he created you 2.because when the first sinned he clothe them and told them how to servive even though they hurt him by disobeying 3.because you are crying out to know him 4. your we not given a chance 5. he see potemtial in you cause you are strong in the things you chose to put you time into 5.you know his word 6.your a warrior
@L00NGB00W 6.your a warrior 7.many have stop loving you 8. your not going to change for any man 9. you are skilled at breaking situation down and making sense of an issue when other cant 10. you believe God is how he say he is you just wanna see what he can do 11. you test is spreading his word regardless....you are actually preaching brother and confirming alot for alot of ppl that read....you time is come by 11/11/11 you will get something from God to know that he is real
@ThaDynastyRecordsTV Thanks again man. Considering the current circumstances surrounding this channel I don't think it's a good idea to reveal any personal information. *comment removed*
#1 is 18008881480 (Jesus Christ's 800 number aka The Jesus Hotline). God's son answers all his calls. Everyone knows that. But if you need scientific stimuli to stroke your unholy ego, consider this:
Iesous = I (10) + e (8) + s (200) + o (70) + u (400) + s (200) = 888
Christos = X (800) + r (110) + i (10) + s (200) + t (300) + o (70) + s (200) = 1480
The second number is a bit more complex since it was really a pitfall to weed out the nubs who think they can actually pray for anything.
The paper actually has this message written behind it:
"Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue... "
Since god is all knowing and all powerful, he would have known what the number was before you even wrote it down. So no matter what you write down, that is the number that God told me.
And I found all this out without a single prayer.
@MultiSwordoftruth Goodness. 3.3 hours of total power!!! Depends on whether you mean in a human context, or a supernatural one, but either way... MUAAHAHAHAAH!!!
Loongbow even though yes I am christian I do find this very funny and no god doesn't talk to me although i babble a lot to me he does answer my prayers but saying that I am kind of a weird sort of Christian not the fluffy sort at all , my daddy duality manager
Fire-maidens fella taught me the old school way.
As for blackpete what you said to him thumbs up to you the mans an idot!
Oh please do although I wont hold my breath waiting for someone to come up with that answer [I may suffocate] hah hah as I said pure genius bro [grins]
Saying that believing in a God (Reality) is stupid, is stupid! Anyone who can't see that God (Reality) holds us responsible for our actions needs to think more before they speak.
Just because I can't currently pluck enough faith for God to give me the answer, doesn't make the multiple witnesses in the Bible wrong. In the same way just because you currently don't have the right equipment to prove the unvierse is billion years old, doesn't make the scientists wrong.
@TheColaGoodfellow I am not sure why you are putting the word (reality) in brackets behind the word god. As for anything else you said, its lol. No point in arguing with you.... the religious virus has infiltrated your brain beyond repair. "Witnesses in the Bible" ....first of all eye witness testimony has been found to be unreliable. Secondly, why choose bible witnesses over mormon witnesses? And comparing science to the bible? Good grief, science proves things, the bible does not.
"....first of all eye witness testimony has been found to be unreliable"
Great, then screw all the people who saw evidence for a billion year universe or macro evolution. What a good excuse to ignore witnesses. Afterall, billions of years is such an "impossible" amount of time.
" I am not sure why you are putting the word (reality) in brackets behind the word god."
No wonder, you believe in neither of them, because by definition there is no actual difference between the two.
I'd just like to point out that the evidence for evolution, and the big bang exists. Anyone is free to look at it, and test it. There's nothing impossible about 1,000,000,000 years or 14Gy.
Methodological Naturalism (Science) is not about witnesses or testimony. It's about facts and evidence.
If 'God' and 'Reality' were clearly one and the same, I would never had made this video.
Ah, but this video is more about how God reacts to prayer, not necasserily ones existance.
Technically the Bibles definition of an all powerful, omnipresent and self sustaining being is true (reality is all of those things), regardless of whether or not people accept that reality answers or has answered prayer.
People need to have witnessed the tests/evidence to have seen anything atall, otherwise they surely never saw it!
@L00NGB00W waaaaaaaaay in the back of your mind do you think there is a God that created humans, the universe, great whales, small amebo, water, treesor it all happened by chance ? truthfully
@neanam Truthfully, no. There's but a minuscule possibility. And 'mere chance' is a whimsical way to put the way the universe works. Nature (aka: the universe) has a way of 'self-assembling' or becoming more and more complex at the cost of entropy. To put it in a 'Genesis' kind of way: -Energy begat quarks. -Quarks begat subatomic particles. -Subatomic particles begat atoms. -Atoms begat chemicals. -Chemicals begat molecules. -Molecules begat proteins. -Proteins begat life. -etc...
"why choose bible witnesses over mormon witnesses?"
Context context context. You need to learn to understand it.
Bible = 66 books/letters documenting events of God, wrote mostly seperately over about 1000 years. Archealogists & scholars agree.
Book Of Mormon = A selection of books a man called Joseph Smith claimed to have found, kept completely secret from everyone else until he was finished translating.
@TheColaGoodfellow Mormons in there book claim to have hundreds of witnesses for a Godly presence. Extremely similar to the 500 or so witness of jesus that some scholars can claim but no one can verify. You sound like you have been brainwashed by christian theologians. If you wish to be intellectually honest with yourself and search for the truth as objective as possible you will find the Bible to be just a book with no significant meaning. I once thought like you. I am atheist now
It's the invisible dragon in the garage, all over again. The theists know in advance how every test will fail; thus, regardless of what they believe they believe, their actual internal models of reality don't contain a god with those properties.
(ignoring for now the few theists who actually do believe - those people are more deluded than most)
ThinkingSpeck 1 month ago
@ThinkingSpeck Until this is answered, there is reason to believe Jesus is deceitful, or at the very least, in error,or the Bible is in error.
Since this cannot possibly be the case, I've had people insist that I must have been lying about having written any numbers at all. Being a tool of Satan and whatnot... ^_^
It's funny how people can mangle concepts in order to make them fit into their personal worldview.
L00NGB00W 1 month ago
@L00NGB00W
Personally, I think the biggest reason to doubt Jesus is that he clearly and repeatedly said he would be back sometime in the first century AD - his followers took that at face value, and only after that prediction failed did they start interpreting such things differently.
I'll consider that you might not have written the numbers, but only once many of the other possibilities have been exhausted. That's a million million options - I'm not holding my breath...
ThinkingSpeck 1 month ago
@ThinkingSpeck Yes, that's a good one too. The end should have come "Before this generation dies." and "Before you finish going through the cities of Israel."
Assuming I'm being honest, It's actually closer to One-Sextillion-Ten-Quadrillion options. =D I didn't want anyone to get lucky.
Another one I like is when Jesus said that "Not one Jot or Tittle" of the Law would change, right after altering the law in regards to stoning adulteresses. "Let He who is without sin, cast the first stone."
L00NGB00W 1 month ago
@L00NGB00W
Granted, I only considered the first number - adding a second unknown number squares the number of possibilities.
That bit actually makes sense to me - the Law carries on unchanged, but Christians are no longer bound by it (however immoral the scapegoat justification for that is). Exceptions for the Ten Commandments are a bit awkward, of course, and cherrypicking stuff against things like homosexuality is just plain silly.
ThinkingSpeck 1 month ago
@ThinkingSpeck "Exceptions for the Ten Commandments are a bit awkward, of course"
I'd like to direct you to my video, 'The Ten Contramandments.' If you haven't already seen it.
Just to know your opinion. =J
L00NGB00W 1 month ago
@L00NGB00W
Granted, I only considered the first number - adding a second unknown number squares the number of possibilities.
That bit actually makes sense to me - the Law carries on unchanged, but Christians are no longer bound by it (however immoral the scapegoat justification for that is). Exceptions for the Ten Commandments are a bit awkward, of course, and cherrypicking stuff against things like homosexuality is just plain silly.
ThinkingSpeck 1 month ago
“If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down from here. For it is written: “‘He will command his angels concerning you to guard you carefully; they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’”
Jesus answered, “It is said: ‘DO NOT PUT THE LORD YOUR GOD TO THE TEST.’ ”
kalopistos777 7 months ago
@kalopistos777 ~ ‘DO NOT PUT THE LORD YOUR GOD TO THE TEST.’
Because the authors knew that they would not like what you find.
You see, It's because 'God' seems to behave in the exact same way he would act, as we would expect to see if he didn't exist at all.
My little test proves as much thus far.
I've had Theists here tell me they'll pray. But none have dared divine my numbers.
Surely He has the ability, but He doesn't care.
Or...
There's really no one out there to care.
L00NGB00W 7 months ago
@ThaDynastyRecordsTV you know if you add a 1 to the front of that(like you would if calling from a land line rather than cell phone) that's an 11 digit number. Jus saying :)
aildluver 8 months ago
11111111111
headwhack12 8 months ago
@headwhack12 Nice Try! =)
But that's an Integer.
A real number would have a decimal point somewhere. Such as:
1111.1111111
That's what I'm looking for. =D
L00NGB00W 8 months ago
@L00NGB00W
Sorry to be pedantic, but integers are all real numbers. The decimal point just comes at the end of an integer, and we don't usually bother to write it.
ThinkingSpeck 1 month ago
@ThinkingSpeck I suppose you're right. Thanks a bunch. ^_^
Now I'll have to make annotations specifying that I'm seeking a number with a decimal point. =P
L00NGB00W 1 month ago
@L00NGB00W
Sounds like a plan. :-P
ThinkingSpeck 1 month ago
8765309 - I know thats only 7 numbers but it's funny.
ProjectCarTV 8 months ago
@ProjectCarTV LoL
Close!
Nah, not really... =P
L00NGB00W 8 months ago
father God i pray that he see you when he starts to see him self for what you created him to be abnd help him change who the world has influence him to be.....father love on him and teach him how to seek you not by test but by faith amen
ThaDynastyRecordsTV 8 months ago
@ThaDynastyRecordsTV
I wonder why I didn't see this message before?
Thank you for the good wishes. But I cannot accept anything on faith, only proof. Moses got it. Job got it, The apostles got it too. If I can't get it also, then I guess I am doomed in His eyes.
If my interpretation is true, this test should work... =\
To ask someone who is already a believer to pray for proof. Why isn't it working?
L00NGB00W 8 months ago
@L00NGB00W @L00NGB00W hey just checking on you brother....and im going to give you eleven reason why God loves you 1. Cause he created you 2.because when the first sinned he clothe them and told them how to servive even though they hurt him by disobeying 3.because you are crying out to know him 4. your we not given a chance 5. he see potemtial in you cause you are strong in the things you chose to put you time into 5.you know his word 6.your a warrior
ThaDynastyRecordsTV 8 months ago
@L00NGB00W 6.your a warrior 7.many have stop loving you 8. your not going to change for any man 9. you are skilled at breaking situation down and making sense of an issue when other cant 10. you believe God is how he say he is you just wanna see what he can do 11. you test is spreading his word regardless....you are actually preaching brother and confirming alot for alot of ppl that read....you time is come by 11/11/11 you will get something from God to know that he is real
ThaDynastyRecordsTV 8 months ago
@ThaDynastyRecordsTV Wow man! =P
You're really kind. =) And quite perceptive. Although I don't know about 6... I'm a pacifist.
You're probably right, I am preaching. And probably affirming both atheists and believers as well in some odd way.
I want to see Him if He's real, And I want others to see what I see.
Believe it or not bro, I was actually born on the 11th. Haha! =D
Have a good weekend, buddy! ;)
L00NGB00W 8 months ago
@ThaDynastyRecordsTV Thanks again man. Considering the current circumstances surrounding this channel I don't think it's a good idea to reveal any personal information. *comment removed*
Cheers though! *I got it* ;) Thanks.
L00NGB00W 8 months ago
Easy.
#1 is 18008881480 (Jesus Christ's 800 number aka The Jesus Hotline). God's son answers all his calls. Everyone knows that. But if you need scientific stimuli to stroke your unholy ego, consider this:
Iesous = I (10) + e (8) + s (200) + o (70) + u (400) + s (200) = 888
Christos = X (800) + r (110) + i (10) + s (200) + t (300) + o (70) + s (200) = 1480
Perilous3D 9 months ago
@Perilous3D Fitting that the very first person to try to get the number is an atheist.
Sorry man, that ain't it. =D (That's an integer!)
"Chance > God"
Sounds about right. =)
L00NGB00W 9 months ago
@L00NGB00W Dammit! I tried... You've failed me again, Lord! Maybe the doctors were right. That voice in my head may not be The Allmighty after all.
"KILL! BURN! RETARD THE WORLD!!!"
"Yes, Master..."
Perilous3D 9 months ago
The second number is a bit more complex since it was really a pitfall to weed out the nubs who think they can actually pray for anything.
The paper actually has this message written behind it:
"Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue... "
Since god is all knowing and all powerful, he would have known what the number was before you even wrote it down. So no matter what you write down, that is the number that God told me.
And I found all this out without a single prayer.
Chance > God
Perilous3D 9 months ago
Ummm lets see It must be fitting for such a genius such as thee
take thy pick loongboow...
1. a lucid dream where fair maidens for fill thy every desire
2 one night where you will shape shift into a wolf and run free under a darkly moon hunting thy prey! [enemies]
3.3 hours of total power to make any decision concerning this dim world [grins]
MultiSwordoftruth 11 months ago
@MultiSwordoftruth Goodness. 3.3 hours of total power!!! Depends on whether you mean in a human context, or a supernatural one, but either way... MUAAHAHAHAAH!!!
The things that could be done.... =0
L00NGB00W 11 months ago
I find thee guilty of disturbing millions of fragile indoctrinated minds
How does thou plead Loongboow?
The best video for proof of gods existence I've witnessed to date RAMO!
MultiSwordoftruth 11 months ago
@MultiSwordoftruth Guilty! What do I win?
L00NGB00W 11 months ago
crasy
delveislam 11 months ago
@delveislam I'm very happy to blow your mind.
Thank you for watching! =)
L00NGB00W 11 months ago
Now thats fucking ace bet not one prayer has been answered RAMO
AVETHORSHAMMER 1 year ago
@AVETHORSHAMMER
Still waiting...
L00NGB00W 1 year ago
Loongbow even though yes I am christian I do find this very funny and no god doesn't talk to me although i babble a lot to me he does answer my prayers but saying that I am kind of a weird sort of Christian not the fluffy sort at all , my daddy duality manager
Fire-maidens fella taught me the old school way.
As for blackpete what you said to him thumbs up to you the mans an idot!
RascallyShirl 1 year ago
@RascallyShirl
Thanks for watching. =)
I'm glad you found it funny and not offensive. If you should happen to get the number please don't hesitate to tell me.
Thanks LoL. He deleted all my comments.
Typical of a closed minded individual.
L00NGB00W 1 year ago
Oh please do although I wont hold my breath waiting for someone to come up with that answer [I may suffocate] hah hah as I said pure genius bro [grins]
1FIREMAIDEN 1 year ago
Hah hah hah you dear brother are pure genius so frigging funny !
Pls let me know if anyone gets that number via god lol lol lov it!
1FIREMAIDEN 1 year ago
@1FIREMAIDEN
Thanks for watching! Glad you liked it. =)
No one's gotten the answer yet, Or even tried for that matter... But I'll be sure to let you know if anyone does.
L00NGB00W 1 year ago
Ha! Great video, I'm going to favorite this XD
SageTheAtheist 1 year ago
@SageTheAtheist Thanks Sage! =) And thanks for watching.
By the way, you're more than welcome to also try to get these #'s if you wish to test any latent psychic abilities.
I'd really like to get my hands on half the James Randi prize. ;)
L00NGB00W 1 year ago
@L00NGB00W *ahem*
"Numbers"
L00NGB00W 1 year ago
I'll post a private video shortly, showing the two #'s. Just so you know I'm not screwing with you.
L00NGB00W 1 year ago
Ahem, "The two numbers' weird.
L00NGB00W 1 year ago
Sweet! Total fluke, but... 420. lol
L00NGB00W 1 year ago
Truth is all powerful and everywhere, which is pretty much something that doesn't need any more testing than common sense itself.
The Bible never says that God is love alone, and it doesn't say that he answers every prayer.
Either way, I'll pray, and if I get a dream containing that number I'll come here and write the answer.
TheColaGoodfellow 1 year ago 2
@TheColaGoodfellow Thank you, Goodfellow. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. =)
I think the Bible does say those things. Of course I could be taking it out of context. Here:
1 John 4:16
"God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him."
Matthew 21:22
"all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive."
L00NGB00W 1 year ago
@TheColaGoodfellow I'll bet you a million dollars you will not get either of his numbers. Believing in a God is stupid.
TheLuckySaGe 1 year ago
@TheLuckySaGe
Saying that believing in a God (Reality) is stupid, is stupid! Anyone who can't see that God (Reality) holds us responsible for our actions needs to think more before they speak.
Just because I can't currently pluck enough faith for God to give me the answer, doesn't make the multiple witnesses in the Bible wrong. In the same way just because you currently don't have the right equipment to prove the unvierse is billion years old, doesn't make the scientists wrong.
TheColaGoodfellow 1 year ago
@TheColaGoodfellow I am not sure why you are putting the word (reality) in brackets behind the word god. As for anything else you said, its lol. No point in arguing with you.... the religious virus has infiltrated your brain beyond repair. "Witnesses in the Bible" ....first of all eye witness testimony has been found to be unreliable. Secondly, why choose bible witnesses over mormon witnesses? And comparing science to the bible? Good grief, science proves things, the bible does not.
TheLuckySaGe 1 year ago
@TheLuckySaGe
"....first of all eye witness testimony has been found to be unreliable"
Great, then screw all the people who saw evidence for a billion year universe or macro evolution. What a good excuse to ignore witnesses. Afterall, billions of years is such an "impossible" amount of time.
" I am not sure why you are putting the word (reality) in brackets behind the word god."
No wonder, you believe in neither of them, because by definition there is no actual difference between the two.
TheColaGoodfellow 1 year ago
@TheColaGoodfellow
I'd just like to point out that the evidence for evolution, and the big bang exists. Anyone is free to look at it, and test it. There's nothing impossible about 1,000,000,000 years or 14Gy.
Methodological Naturalism (Science) is not about witnesses or testimony. It's about facts and evidence.
If 'God' and 'Reality' were clearly one and the same, I would never had made this video.
Cheers buddy! =D
L00NGB00W 1 year ago
@L00NGB00W
Ah, but this video is more about how God reacts to prayer, not necasserily ones existance.
Technically the Bibles definition of an all powerful, omnipresent and self sustaining being is true (reality is all of those things), regardless of whether or not people accept that reality answers or has answered prayer.
People need to have witnessed the tests/evidence to have seen anything atall, otherwise they surely never saw it!
TheColaGoodfellow 1 year ago
@TheColaGoodfellow
"Ah, but this video is more about how God reacts to prayer, not necasserily ones existance."
You're right, but it would be in His best interests, if He wants worshipers, He should prove himself from time to time.
"People need to have witnessed the tests/evidence to have seen anything atall, otherwise they surely never saw it!"
Exactly. =)
L00NGB00W 1 year ago
@L00NGB00W waaaaaaaaay in the back of your mind do you think there is a God that created humans, the universe, great whales, small amebo, water, treesor it all happened by chance ? truthfully
neanam 1 year ago
L00NGB00W 1 year ago
The cost of all this complexity is entropy. The universe will eventually die. Perhaps to be reborn? Our knowledge falls short of this point.
L00NGB00W 1 year ago
@TheLuckySaGe
"why choose bible witnesses over mormon witnesses?"
Context context context. You need to learn to understand it.
Bible = 66 books/letters documenting events of God, wrote mostly seperately over about 1000 years. Archealogists & scholars agree.
Book Of Mormon = A selection of books a man called Joseph Smith claimed to have found, kept completely secret from everyone else until he was finished translating.
Mormon = one witness.
Bible = 39+ from throughout history.
TheColaGoodfellow 1 year ago
@TheColaGoodfellow Mormons in there book claim to have hundreds of witnesses for a Godly presence. Extremely similar to the 500 or so witness of jesus that some scholars can claim but no one can verify. You sound like you have been brainwashed by christian theologians. If you wish to be intellectually honest with yourself and search for the truth as objective as possible you will find the Bible to be just a book with no significant meaning. I once thought like you. I am atheist now
TheLuckySaGe 1 year ago
An 11-digit REAL number, or an an 11-digit integer?
Just to clarify :)
firefly4f4 1 year ago
@firefly4f4 Integers would be too easy. If everyone on the planet guessed 30 times someone would get it. =J
I meant a real number. The odds of guessing one of these is astronomical.
Examples:
~1.2345678901
~123456.78901
~12345678.901
L00NGB00W 1 year ago
@L00NGB00W That's what I thought, just making sure :)
firefly4f4 1 year ago
Rhubarb.
L00NGB00W 1 year ago