James 'Lights Out' Toney on his UFC debut vs. Randy Couture

[underscoreisnotvalid]

pardon?

[47TheSteve]

Listen gang, "thinking" is not "knowing." So, while you are indeed entitled to your opinion, and I respect that, please don't come across as though you "know" more than you do because I promise you you don't. Men are brutal when it comes to backseat driving. I've never lost a match from a sideline. But what's more telling is that I never won one either. If you're not a fighter, then by all means render opinions, but I assure you, the buck stops there. It's the fighter & skill not style.

[JACKO6666]

in a pure boxing match would be close as randy is a good boxer

but mma well we all know what happened there

randy took him away from his strengths and exposed his weakness

perfect game plan and the win

[missjanene]

fuck james toney he got his lights out in the octagon but what if randy forght him in a boxing ring

[gregory57481]

randy couter layed on your ass and beat you down then submitted you. still call him gay ? i wonder

[quathar]

@gregory57481 Well it was a gay way of beating him. In Toney's mind, that is.

[denzelsnipes69]

"The only freakshow I see is the one in my pants."

[superdashark]

toney is a fat shit talker you cant even understand what he saying fuckin embaresing

[newfie1981]

lol please u guys dont even know what ur shooting off about sayin ufc is lame and boxing is lame...incase u didnt notice there 2 different sports with different rules why dont u just calm down and watch what u want cause all this BS only makes u look dumb as fuck lol

[ders1er]

haw haw haw haw! James big mouth toney - probably not such a big mouth now eh!?

[wolfpackjudo]

Maybe somebody beside a washed up x will give it a shot. Where is Mike Tyson? You know he doesn't want to be embarrased like Toney was. Arrogance of this guy to think that boxers are the only ones who punch hard. I guess know he gets to start saying "he didn't choke me out I was okay... I didn't tap... the referee shouldn't have stopped it... I WAS ABOUT TO KNOCK HIS ASS OUT! " Yeah right.

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[l09ez]

You don't need to go to Thailand to see a real fight. A school fight is a real fight but most of these kids can't throw a punch to save their lives. A good puncher can throw punch with left or right hand.

[l09ez]

Randy didn't even try to fight this was just wrestling. Ray Mercer not out a ufc guy in one punch. People pay more to see knock out not tap outs. Boxing proves it. Boxing is a dying sport in the US but not the world.

[dorielementary]

It wasn't a real fight. It was UFC rules. It a real fight you can rip off ears, gouge eyes, and kick people in the nuts. UFC is not a real fight. It's a sport. And the rules of UFC make for a lamer fight than boxing. In boxing people must stand and fight. In UFC they roll around on each other in some sort of pseudo homoerotic bullshit. If you payed to see that UFC farce you are a freaking moron.

[Poopcopy]

@dorielementary and if you'll pay to see what you call a "fight" then your an animal. no shit it's not a real "fight" if you want that go to Thailand and watch them kids elbow each other in the head tell one of them dies.

[dorielementary]

@Poopcopy My point is that boxing is better because the rules encourage them to stand and fight. UFC may be closer to a real fight but it doesn't allow basic street fighting tactics so that selling point is moot. The reality is that UFC ends up with guys rolling around on the floor and it's just plain boring.

[dorielementary]

It wasn't a real fight. It was UFC rules. It a real fight you can rip off ears, gouge eyes, and kick people in the nuts. UFC is not a real fight. It's a sport. And the rules of UFC make for a lamer fight than boxing. In boxing people must stand and fight. In UFC they roll around on each other in some sort of pseudo homoerotic bullshit. If you payed to see that UFC farce you are a freaking moron.

[dorielementary]

It would be cool to see Toney and Couture fight. Unfortunately UFC rules prevent a real fight from taking place. Couture was afraid to stand and fight. So he wrestled him down and choked him. Pathetic.

[Darkdante44]

@dorielementary well his boxing shit didnt work now did it

[47TheSteve]

What are you rambling about? It was an MMA fight, therefore they were MMA rules. Toney knew that, I knew that, the world knew that, so where is all your dissonance & big talk stemming from? I'll tell you who makes excuses in life -- cowards, liars, egomaniacs, narcissistic people, those who live vicariously & those who have no idea what they're talking about, but NEVER those who are in the mix fighting. Which are you? Always those who don't fight with excuses & opinions. Can it pal. Clueless.

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[OregonGaming]

His take down defense is that he's not gay and he doesn't kick cuz kicking is for girls. he's gonna lose unless he can knock out couture in the the first 15 seconds of one of the rounds

[duaneford1]

brock lesner ,knogo cro crap overshit, these chumps would get annihilated by a klitschko or tua, hand down u moron think brock shit lesner gnp is going too do something, u think your muay thai is gonna save u, bring your black belt jj, grappling ass 1 punch can change all that, ill put tua in or james in any muay thai gym hell make them his BITCH

[SparksDrinker]

@Thatmeat .  whoops, i guess not.

[Thatmeat]

@SparksDrinker Couture is gay he didnt wanna fight he just wanted to wrestle on the ground.He fought liddell with hands but he scared of toneys hands.

[SparksDrinker]

@Thatmeat . . wake up meathead. i feel sorry for you. you actually thought toney had a chance to win. you feel pretty stupid right now don't you?

[SparksDrinker]

@Thatmeat . boxing is for guys that are afraid to get kicked in the head or get their arm broken.

[Thatmeat]

@SparksDrinker Bro you cant really compare ufc to boxing.Ufc has been relevant for ten years while boxing been here over 150 years.Its a sweet science, footwork, great defense, super skilled sport.Ufc has multiple styles which is great, but most of their fights are sloppy and turns into a hugging fest.Trust me on this one.

[SparksDrinker]

@Thatmeat . trust me on this one: in 10 years boxing will be dead and mma will be one of the most popular sports in the world.

[Thatmeat]

@47TheSteve Trust me bro Im not no internet dweeb or cyber gangsta.Im reppin the 305 all day and Im no bitch.U amongst other people seem to forget boxing ever exist.Im not saying its the worst thing in the world but a lot of those fights in the ufc are not great entertainment.If you compare the greatest boxers to ever live and the greatest mixed martial artist its a joke believe me.None of these guys can carry Ali's jock believe me.If you like mma more power to you.

[Easyandy100]

@47TheSteve Boxers are the easiest to defeat 9 times out of ten? Couldn't have been very good ones...

[47TheSteve]

@Easyandy100 Before I get into it, tell me how many MMA fights you've had against boxers. Otherwise you're just another guy on the sidelines professing to know anything about something you know nothing about. I'm telling you firsthand my experience in having fought boxers. If there is to be any discourse here l'll need to know your experience in regard to fighting MMA. If you're a boxer & haven't fought an MMA guy there's nothing more to discuss. Are you better than Toney? Ask him if I'm wrong.

[Easyandy100]

@47TheSteve I just think its an interesting debate as to how well a good boxer would do against a good MMA and vice versa. My opinion is in a boxing match the boxer would win as I haven't seen much boxing ability in MMA and I think the boxer MIGHT win in MMA. I am a fan of both who has some experience. There hasn't been a good boxer in the UFC. Kimbo was supposed to be deadly but a low level pro boxer would have beat him easily and Toney was finished thats why he was in UFC in the first place.

[47TheSteve]

@Easyandy100 You're predicating a scenario based on supposition. How can you say a boxer would win in a boxing match & a boxer might win in an MMA match? You're creating an argument to suit your contention. That's falsifying evidence. I reiterate, if you're not a fighter who's done both your contention is all but moot. Kimbo was never supposed to be deadly. He was an amateur street fighter. Toney makes no excuses for losing nor should his fans for him. It boils down to the fighter & skill level.

[Easyandy100]

@47TheSteve As a spectator sport it is only natural for sentients to suppose and this is the precursor of competiton. If we knew then every person would be aware of the outocome negating the need for competition. A boxer will, by their very nature win a boxing match. An MMA fighter MAY lose against a boxer as MMA by its nature includes boxing which the MMA may fail at. Supposing every thing was perfect then MMA would be superior but I have yet to see evidence of this. I have falsified nothing.

[47TheSteve]

@Easyandy100 But the conversation we're engaged in isn't the competition you're eluding to as you deflect from what is, that being the fight & the fight game itself.

A boxer by their very nature will win a fight? What is that? A boxer by their very nature will fight a fight, but by the nature of nature itself there is no presupposing unless you're psychic and even then it's a crap shoot. A boxer is human, period, so by their very nature stand as diametrically-assured of losing as any human.

[47TheSteve]

@Easyandy100 You say: "If we knew then every person would be aware of the outocome negating the need for competition" then you contradict yourself by saying previously that by the very nature of a boxer he will win. Which is it, we don't know the outcomes & therefore require competition or we know the outcomes & therefore boxers "by their very nature will win? I'm too used to belonging to philosohpical forums where critical thinking is the order of the day. You're your own worst enemy. Wow!

[47TheSteve]

@Easyandy100 Seriously, if you're still running a 100 yard dash 8 minutes later when everyone else has already finished & gone home it doesn't mean you're still in the race. It simply means you're still running. I can't even exchange with someone who's simply here to exchange. No disrespect, but I'm too used to discussing issues with deep thinkers & that simply isn't the case here.

You conjure false scenarios then contradict yourself, thus negating your own contention. Weird.

Gotta block.

[Easyandy100]

@47TheSteve I have been reading your comments with other people on this board and it seems no one is even good enough to debate with you. You have misunderstood what I was saying and you are trying to combat with pseudo intellectual posturing. In the end I like to keep things simple so I would say to you, nobody likes a smart arse. And its 'alluding' not 'eluding' but you new that anyway didn't you?

[ALSTONPOWERS]

toney for president

[aybaby1024]

James is hilarious. And a good fighting

[RingTVUK]

it makes sense to make couture win it will shut boxing fans up however dana white will fix the fight so that toney wins this will make more proffessional boxersgo to mma thinking if toney could do it so can we it is a trick to kill boxing for good

[MrDripdrop]

he should be a motivational speaker

[kingzdomain13]

I think randy is going to call off the fight! lol toneys gonna whip his ass good!

[iConspiracyZzXBL]

@kingzdomain13 toney is a boxer.. randy is mma.... mma is a real fight.... its more of a bitch way to fight if u just stand face to face and punch eachother.... cuz if u no its hurts alot more to get a good choke or kamora against a broken nose or black eye.... i would take broken nose or black eye....Couture will show him tht hes a pussy not dana white...

[kingzdomain13]

@iConspiracyZzXBL trust me brother I know MMA is the shit in a fight I know but we live in a world that if you end up on the ground 9 times out of 10 the guys homeboys are going to stomp u out! Vs boxing where you have a chance to circle and move back and decide weather your in over your head trying to fight a fair one. @ this point its your decision to run!

[robi2000]

He better be tough as hell cause he can't talk

[battlecruiser100]

toney might be gay after he taken down and forced to eat ass lol

[gee187um]

Toney is talking a lot of smack he better back it up because talk is cheap. I love this guy though, Hope he wins! Randy lays low but shows up to fight. Ray Mercer was able to KO fromer 2 time UFC champ Tim Sylvia with one punch so the shit has happened before. This a cool fight the Penn vs Edgar fight should be a replay of thier first fight which was boring. I am going to order these fight just for the Toney fight.. I can't wait..

[berner]

"...I aint gay" and then....... silence.

Oh man that was hillarious

[Houstone2ndward]

man, they should just give james a tv show already...he's entertaining i could listen to him talk shit all day

[Thatmeat]

@Houstone2ndward U aint lying lol!

[seahawks2043]

@Houstone2ndward yeah I agree, a TV show where they have him sit down and attempt to read a little golden book, it would be intresting

[suwoooo]

The first time I met James Toney I didn'nt understand wtf hes saying

[crimen]

TIME TO PUT BOXING ON THE MAP JAMES..LETS DO THIS!!!

[tristanv1]

James Toney, less talking more training.

[damodakota]

This dude keeps it real....fucking hilarious!!!

Absolutely no-one in the mma can match the foot movement of james toney. James has great feet & counter right hand going backwards, & is comfortable in the clinch, a take-down is going to be more difficult then most think.

[FightFancom]

The first time I met James Toney he told me if I paid him $200 cash he would get in the ring and spar me. I asked if he'd take it easy on me and he said no, he would go out of his way to kick my ass.

[MayweatherTop1]

@FightFancom and you didnt pay the money to fight him, you sound like a bitch

[ESSENCEOFEACHTHING]

@FightFancom

He told you that!? lol James Toney is a throw back fighter!

[Lifter85]

@FightFancom ...I'm sure he did...

[laxxxxxxen]

@FightFancom Toney is a Foney.

[bartlemi5]

James Toney is comedy gold ha ha ha ha ha!!!!

[gusto1978]

tooney is a cartooney! he been smoking crack or something he's delirious!

[bunce101]

rofl we'll see if he comes true on his prediction to knock dana white after cotoure

[tmilly5]

ya toney will need alot of luck ..he gonna get hurt

[BringerOfTheTruth]

Imagine Toney beating lesnar, then the bitsko sisters, then david gaye..that would be the greatest single accomplishment in fighting history. He would go down as the greatest ever, even greater than Muhammad Ali.

[Lifter85]

@BringerOfTheTruth ...i thought you were the 'bringer of truth'... more like the bringer of bullshit

[BringerOfTheTruth]

@Lifter85 Yep, I am the bringer of truth, you will see.

[Darkdante44]

@BringerOfTheTruth he couldnt take out randy i highly doubt he can take out brock

[sinistercharlie]

lol 2:44 classic answere!

[randyds5]

james toney, aww man, hes an awesome role model

[sinistercharlie]

@randyds5 hahah yea he speaks his mind but he can back his shit up

[neometalx9]

james toney is fukin crazy.. but good luck against randy man..