No there should not be paternity leave women or men. We are at a time where global warming is the greatest threat to planet earth and we the human race are responsible for the destruction of the rain forest. The human race is the biggest parasite on this planet. Its time we limited the birth rate. We need a world wide program to encourage birth control. Encourage speacially the poor to stop breeding children they cant afford and are incapable of looking after.
This is a fantastic idea - helps fathers become closer to their families and mothers to advance their career. Congratulations to Swedes!
Gender politics in America/UK are too divisive though. Mainstream feminist organizations like NOW are not supportive of paternal leave and father's rights at all and slander the Father's Rights activists (who lobby for increases in paternity leave and shared custody) as nothing more than abusers, rather than joining them for this cause.
Sounds sensible to me. My dad stayed home a lot when I was a kid, because he had a stroke that took a while to recover, as you might imagine. Obviously I wouldn't have wanted it to be like that, but I really think my life would have been poorer without him there.
This is a very good idea. It's a step forward. I personally know a young man from Sweden, who took a paternal leave and takes as much part in raising the child as the woman.This is not usual for fathers in other countries.
I know a number of couples who have done it. All the men I talked to it like having the option that their fathers didn't. I've heard mixed reactions from women. I work with a woman who took a maternity leave a few years ago and her husband is staying home on paternity leave with their recent baby - she resents it.
@BoundlessEyes Sadly MRA's are vilified in this society and also contain lunatic fringes that i would rather not associate myself with. I don't for example believe that the father should have any say over whether a pregnancy is terminated. This is unequal in some ways but I see no fairer way to settle the issue than to leave it to women. I will continue to advocate human rights for all including ones that mainly apply to certain sub-populations.
Nice initiative. We are slowly (in my country anyway) seeing a change in the roles of both parents when it comes to raising children. More men are planning to be stay at home dads or share equal parenting duties. The younger generations are already playing more of an active role in the upbringing of their children. My son was raised for the most part with his dad as the primary carer.
@dismutased Great to hear! Which country are you living in?
I think it's very healthy for children to be raised with a close bond to their fathers. Paternal leave can only increase that bond and balance women's contribution in the workplace.
@BoundlessEyes I'm in Australia. I think it might be happening all over the western world though, especially among more educated populations. It seems to me that the decision of who takes primary role or if shared care is an option is more based around wages and who actually wants to among many other factors. Seem to me gender is becoming less of a factor, but slowly. I think equilibrium will be achieved eventually, no to say that advocating for it is useless though. :) Love your videos btw.
@BoundlessEyes p.s. there is definitely a different level of relationship between kids and fathers who take active or primary roles in their raising, it definitely shows through with my son and his dad, and also with the other stay at home shared care dads I've met.
A lot of businesses in CA do this--you get parental leave when a baby's born, whether you're the mother or the father. A lot of people will take theirs one following the other, so there's a parent home full-time with the kid for a fairly substantial period of time.
I when my supervisor had a baby she only took six weeks off. I don't understand how people are supposed to have a life and make meaningful connections with their kids ( women and men) when they are forced to work their asses off just to struggle to survive. I think Sweden has the right idea yet again. Thanks for posting.
This would help achieve the goal of equalising the wage gap. However I would just point out the unintended consequences.The burden of compulsory paid maternity on both sexes will fall hardest on small businesses.Putting up a barrier to entry across the whole economy. Reducing the upward competitive pressure that encourages innovation & keeps large firms from charging monopoly prices.Prices which will include the new laws costs being passed straight back to consumers.Big business wins-we all lose
@Malthus0 The majority of the population will go on to reproduce, so clearly the negligible effect such a legislation might have on small businesses is outweighed by the increase in the life experience of anyone who chooses to start a family. I really think we should be legislating based on what is best for workers over what benefits business of any size. But I take your point, particularly as a marxist socialist. Ultimately it's the lesser of two evils.
@Malthus0 NB Maternity leave in Sweden is financed by the State. (That's to say we all contribute to give children a good start in life).
It may in some cases be a burden on small buisnesses anyway. They need to fill the gap in their work force. It's just something among they have to take into account.
@Zaimoren It benefits men AND women and represents parenting as an equal responsibility as well as improving women's representation in the workplace and hopefully, in positions of political power. Win win win win win. Parental rights in the US are shocking, I never knew it was so bad here for new parents. In Britain, mothers get 6 weeks and fathers 2 weeks of parental leave, and up to 6 months at half-pay for women, I believe.
And yeah, America is always boasting about their "family values." Among other things which they don't live up to...... That is great about Britain. I was not aware of that.
No there should not be paternity leave women or men. We are at a time where global warming is the greatest threat to planet earth and we the human race are responsible for the destruction of the rain forest. The human race is the biggest parasite on this planet. Its time we limited the birth rate. We need a world wide program to encourage birth control. Encourage speacially the poor to stop breeding children they cant afford and are incapable of looking after.
Nuron666 1 year ago
This is a fantastic idea - helps fathers become closer to their families and mothers to advance their career. Congratulations to Swedes!
Gender politics in America/UK are too divisive though. Mainstream feminist organizations like NOW are not supportive of paternal leave and father's rights at all and slander the Father's Rights activists (who lobby for increases in paternity leave and shared custody) as nothing more than abusers, rather than joining them for this cause.
Flare400 1 year ago
@Flare400 FeministingDOTcom quite regularly speaks in favour of men's rights. It's a pretty mainstream website... just to balance the opinion here.
I'm glad you support the proposition. =)
BoundlessEyes 1 year ago
This video has perfect timing!! The discussion on your other videos gettin' heated :)
DeLaSoul246 1 year ago
Thanks, I'll take a look at it.
hugesinker 1 year ago
this has happend in germany a few years ago :)
FratisNox 1 year ago
Sounds sensible to me. My dad stayed home a lot when I was a kid, because he had a stroke that took a while to recover, as you might imagine. Obviously I wouldn't have wanted it to be like that, but I really think my life would have been poorer without him there.
GriffinPilgrim 1 year ago
This is a very good idea. It's a step forward. I personally know a young man from Sweden, who took a paternal leave and takes as much part in raising the child as the woman.This is not usual for fathers in other countries.
dewinthemorning 1 year ago
I know a number of couples who have done it. All the men I talked to it like having the option that their fathers didn't. I've heard mixed reactions from women. I work with a woman who took a maternity leave a few years ago and her husband is staying home on paternity leave with their recent baby - she resents it.
cavejourney 1 year ago
thanks for the info.
Hythloday71 1 year ago
Am off to Sweden on Monday. Lets all move to Sweden eh? n_n
princessannikki 1 year ago
Yeah, that is a good suggestion.
Now take one the issue of cuckolding by requiring mandatory paternity testing of men named as father.
michalchik 1 year ago
@michalchik Perhaps you should become an MRA and fight for it yourself? I have enough work to do already with women's issues.
BoundlessEyes 1 year ago
@BoundlessEyes Sadly MRA's are vilified in this society and also contain lunatic fringes that i would rather not associate myself with. I don't for example believe that the father should have any say over whether a pregnancy is terminated. This is unequal in some ways but I see no fairer way to settle the issue than to leave it to women. I will continue to advocate human rights for all including ones that mainly apply to certain sub-populations.
michalchik 1 year ago
Nice initiative. We are slowly (in my country anyway) seeing a change in the roles of both parents when it comes to raising children. More men are planning to be stay at home dads or share equal parenting duties. The younger generations are already playing more of an active role in the upbringing of their children. My son was raised for the most part with his dad as the primary carer.
dismutased 1 year ago
@dismutased Great to hear! Which country are you living in?
I think it's very healthy for children to be raised with a close bond to their fathers. Paternal leave can only increase that bond and balance women's contribution in the workplace.
BoundlessEyes 1 year ago
@BoundlessEyes I'm in Australia. I think it might be happening all over the western world though, especially among more educated populations. It seems to me that the decision of who takes primary role or if shared care is an option is more based around wages and who actually wants to among many other factors. Seem to me gender is becoming less of a factor, but slowly. I think equilibrium will be achieved eventually, no to say that advocating for it is useless though. :) Love your videos btw.
dismutased 1 year ago
@BoundlessEyes p.s. there is definitely a different level of relationship between kids and fathers who take active or primary roles in their raising, it definitely shows through with my son and his dad, and also with the other stay at home shared care dads I've met.
dismutased 1 year ago
Hey I was right!!
preachingsin 1 year ago
A lot of businesses in CA do this--you get parental leave when a baby's born, whether you're the mother or the father. A lot of people will take theirs one following the other, so there's a parent home full-time with the kid for a fairly substantial period of time.
roentgen571 1 year ago
I when my supervisor had a baby she only took six weeks off. I don't understand how people are supposed to have a life and make meaningful connections with their kids ( women and men) when they are forced to work their asses off just to struggle to survive. I think Sweden has the right idea yet again. Thanks for posting.
dollsnatch 1 year ago 2
This would help achieve the goal of equalising the wage gap. However I would just point out the unintended consequences.The burden of compulsory paid maternity on both sexes will fall hardest on small businesses.Putting up a barrier to entry across the whole economy. Reducing the upward competitive pressure that encourages innovation & keeps large firms from charging monopoly prices.Prices which will include the new laws costs being passed straight back to consumers.Big business wins-we all lose
Malthus0 1 year ago
@Malthus0 The majority of the population will go on to reproduce, so clearly the negligible effect such a legislation might have on small businesses is outweighed by the increase in the life experience of anyone who chooses to start a family. I really think we should be legislating based on what is best for workers over what benefits business of any size. But I take your point, particularly as a marxist socialist. Ultimately it's the lesser of two evils.
BoundlessEyes 1 year ago
@Malthus0 NB Maternity leave in Sweden is financed by the State. (That's to say we all contribute to give children a good start in life).
It may in some cases be a burden on small buisnesses anyway. They need to fill the gap in their work force. It's just something among they have to take into account.
RONLAST 1 year ago
I think encouraging a fathers role in their child's life can only lead to good things. I would totally support leave for fathers.
Zaimoren 1 year ago 2
@Zaimoren It benefits men AND women and represents parenting as an equal responsibility as well as improving women's representation in the workplace and hopefully, in positions of political power. Win win win win win. Parental rights in the US are shocking, I never knew it was so bad here for new parents. In Britain, mothers get 6 weeks and fathers 2 weeks of parental leave, and up to 6 months at half-pay for women, I believe.
BoundlessEyes 1 year ago
@BoundlessEyes Benefits the kids too ^_^
And yeah, America is always boasting about their "family values." Among other things which they don't live up to...... That is great about Britain. I was not aware of that.
DeLaSoul246 1 year ago
You never fail to deliver....
Elenkhos 1 year ago
Another awesome video from an awesome lady !
moonknightify 1 year ago
I like that Idea, that sounds like a really good solution.
Curas1 1 year ago