hang on, the author said that Laurox got everything wrong. If ALW was right about EVERYTHING then the phantom didn't have a name! So why did he call him Erik? Explain that! Idiot!
I almost puked when I read that m****f***ing introduction and was completely unmoved by the rest of the book. Unmoved at all. I certainly didn't love it, and it wasn't even worth hating. If it meant we got this hilarious commentary out of it, then that's more than enough for me!
To me it's a book that kept me busy. I didn't react to it like i reacted to susan kay's. I agree that it was hard to keep track of who was talking. But i LMFAO at the Shakespeare part XD
Damn, I remember wasting 11 bucks on this book that I found in the clearance bin at Barnes & Nobles. It read like bad fan fiction. Your review mirrors much of my initial reaction to that garbage perfectly.
I'm not certain if you covered it (or if you even plan to, given the content...), but there's actually a Phantom of the Opera Erotica that was recently written called Unmasqued by Colette Gale. It's ghastly, but I would love to hear your review on it.
This guy comes across as being so pompous through this book I just want to hit him. And what does Leroux not beng able to find Raoul to 'check' stuff have to do with him not being there for the rest of the story? even if it wasn't all FICTION!!! IDIOT! Uh, I want to hit him over the head with his book! And what the heck is with Mammon (or whoever) and who cares about the latin 'Brain teasers'?
I honestly don't know whether to laugh or cry...and people actually read this book? How!? I would have started ripping out the pages and using them for origami or paper mache.
Apparently, in Love Never Dies, Erik makes a Christine sexbot whom has been keeping him company the past decade since the ending of the first musical...
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i actually liked the book. And if it's a ficctional story, then anybody could think of the characters what they want. And it's not that the original version (which I really love) doesn't have any incoherences that are put out of the story in nearlly all versions....
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I think I'm the only Phan in the world who actually kinda liked this novel. One thing, though: this isn't a sequel to the Gaston Leroux novel. It's a novelization of a sequel musical Andrew Lloyd Webber was writing, but eventually scraped. (For obvious reasons.)
I can't believe Forsyth believes that Madame Giry really was the chorus master...Leroux, in the original, created the character as the damn box keeper!
"An error corrected in the Andrew Lloyd Webber musical..." my ass.
I've never read this book (and very likely never will), but some things puzzle me regarding the massive negative reactions of the Phans:
- Erik and Christine having a child
- Erik doing drugs
- plot being focussed on the musical rather than the Leroux novel.
All of this happens in Susan Kays book as well, and every Phan seems to love HER. Ok, she kept closer to Leroux up to the point where Christine appears, but from that on, she throws in a lot from the musical as well.
Well, Kay also ends the book by paying respects and homage to Leroux and the stage musical. She admits she tried to make her book a happy medium between the original and the musical. She beats Forsyth based purely on class.
Wow. Any part of me that ever wanted to read this book has now died. Erik was talking to a demon? He was a clown? And he buys a skyscraper from selling postcards??? What the heck?
"What the heck?" - That's exactly what I said when I read the book, when it first came out. Unfortunately, my masochistic curiosity caused waste my time and suffer reading to the very end. - I hoped it would get better, but it just got worse and worse. - What an awful book!
Soooo.......Forsyth can waste his time on pages and pages of diologue about an English lesson, but he can't bother to ad in a few "he said"s or "she saids?!"
Ugh. If Erik were to learn English, it would have been pre-Paris Opera House. I can actually see him learning a lot of other languages; he's certainly smart enough to!
And the thing about Erik being a clown...*dies* Gosh, Erik as a clown is scarier than his face can ever be! *geezIhateclowns* DX
Disc 1 1. Prologue 2. The Coney Island Waltz 3. That's the place you ruined, you fool! 4. A Little Slice of Heaven 5. Only For Him/Only For You 6. The Ayrie 7. 'Till I Hear You Sing 8. Giry Confronts the Phantom/'Till I Hear You Sing (Reprise) 9. Christine Disembarks 10. Arrival of the Trio/Are You Ready to Begin? 11. What a Dreadful Town!... 12. Look With Your Heart 13. Beneath a Moonless Sky 14. Once Upon Another Time 15. "Mother Please, I'm Scared!"
16. Dear Old Friend 17. Beautiful 18. The Beauty Underneath 19. The Phantom Confronts Christine Disc 2 1. Entr'acte 2. Why Does She Love Me? 3. Devil Take the Hindmost 4. A Little Slice of Heaven (Reprise) 5. Ladies... Gents!/The Coney Island Waltz (Reprise) 6. Bathing Beauty 7. "Mother, Did You Watch?" 8. Before the Performance 9. Devil Take the Hindmost (Quartet) 10. Love Never Dies
2) That's a LOT OF SONGS. I'm only interested in the ones that have "dialogue" titles. Because well -- I like songs like the "rooftop" and "Final Lair"...which are basically plot to music. I don't like it when they stop and go "This is my big number ::starts to sing::" (like WYWSHA)
3) I hope "The Beauty Underneath" is better than it sounds.
This vid was epic! Though I haven't read the actual book, I did have the displeasure of hearing the introduction in audiobook format. Anyway, brilliant review; can't wait for part 2! Loved the chap who played Forsyth in this vid as well.
And dethe8ter, "Claudin" was the last name used in the 1943 film version... As far as anyone has been able to find out, Leroux's story of the Phantom is fiction, but with kernels of truth sprinkled in skillfully.
Thank you for the correction on the last name, so I was correct in assuming that he had no last name that we know of, and as for the fiction I am not an idiot many portions were fiction but I am a firm believer that Erik and the events that surround him are in fact true. For no imagination could create such act of human sorrow.
It's one of those stories that is so heartbreaking, you'd want it to be true. But it's not true. Maybe there is a deformed musician somewhere who fell in love with a young singer. Maybe they were caught in a love triangle. But it's not THIS deformed musician, and it's not THIS young singer. Erik and Christine Daae are as real as Jack and Rose from Titanic. Doesn't mean there's no real couple who suffered the same way. But the characters don't exist.
I actually did have to research the Paris Opera for a music history project. Believe me, if the phantom was real, I'd know about it. As I recall, Leroux was inspired by a real incident with the chandelier (no one died), a real Swedish soprano (she never disappeared) and a real unknown skeleton (no evidence of a ring etc.)
He was also inspired by a man who had helped Garnier with the construction, He stayed there in The Opera House, workers years later would say "Have you seen The Phantom?" as he would dart from place to place trying to stay hidden l
This has been mentioned in the history of the ALW Musical, but I first heard it in "Histoire de l'Opéra de Paris : un siècle au palais Garnier" by Charles Dupêchez
Oh my god, that's one huge hoax that used to float around the internet for a while. Weren't there also those mysteriously rediscovered notes that had been buried in the vaults of the opera in the late 19th century which were not to be be published until 2005 or so? Never heard of them again.
I found that information on a site that also showed pictures of the inside of the great hall, interpreting a few random lens flares as images of ghosts.
I never noticed that the book cover was like a werewolf novel. I DID, however, wonder there were such few pages and the book cover was so THICK and LONG. Overcompensation for lack of material, I guess!
Can we get to the part about Raoul's "Issue" soon...
Oh yes, Erik totally learned English from English opera librettos because English opera was soooo popular in France at that time. Or not.
Why couldn't Erik have learned English along with the scrillion other things he learned to do pre-Paris Opera.
English opera was not performed at the Paris Opera and I don't think G&S was big in France. So, English opera librettos? 'Fraid not. Sorry. Not unless some rabid Handel fan accidentally left some in the opera house.
That inane scene with the priest and the kid is what put this book over into the realm of utter retardation! Thank you for warning us so we don't waste our time and money.
One of the things that bothers me is that ALW is making a sequel to his masterpiece based on this damn stupid book! What is he thinking? I hope he changes a lot of things from the book.
I've heard that a few changes were made to the story during its transformation from (stupid) book to (pointless) musical... but whether that's true and what the changes might be I have no idea.
I'm reserving full judgement on the musical until I get up the courage to go and see it next year, but my expectations are not high... unlike Forsythe clearly was when he wrote this.
I have heard one song from the new musical, which was beauiful, so I am not so concerned about the music. But the story... I am not so sure I want to know how it ends.
In the Twilight series defense, it is meant for the 10-15 year age group. This POTO book was written with the intent for ADULTS.
I think everyone of at least average intelligence should be insulted that Forsythe thought that the rest of the human race is so dumb, his book was on our level.
I actually ment to read this book a long time ago but didn't make it past the introduction, indeed its quiet hard to read a supposed sequel when they spend a few pages dissing the author your writing a sequel about.
I will say that its not that unusual if Erik could speak English. Please bear in mind that he had done extensive travelling around Europe, the Middle East before he came to the Paris Opera house. He lived in Turkey and Persia (Iraq) for years and he could have been adept at speaking several languages.
You don't understand... Forsythe says in his introduction that the whole persian backstory NEVER HAPPENED. He was born, he was put in a cage, and Giry rescued him. No traveling arond Europe for THIS Erik.
Oh my gosh - the book sounds so awful! I don't think the sequel musical will turn out well at all - given its based on Forysthe's horrible novel. You did a wonderful job, PhantomReviewer, and gave the book the review it deserved. I still can't believe Forsythe dissed Leroux's original novel. Even if ALW had written it, its so badly written and the plot doesn't make sense at all. I can't wait to hear more!! :D Please post more soon!! :)
I'm sorry but Erik? A clown? Like, I mean, can you think of anyone less clown like? I mean, the guy's a bit of a downer, to say the least. I know he's unhinged, but good lord... I mean, clowns are scary enough, an Erik clown? Everyone in a five mile radius would soil themselves in sheer terror. >>
I only read two chapters of this book and couldn't read no more, it was too horrible and my brain was throbbing with annoyance and boredom.
Thank you for taking the time to read that terrible, revolting book and review it just for us!
AWESOME REVIEW(S) (can't wait till the next)!
I can only hope that Love Never Dies won't ground Phantom of the Opera's name in the dirt, I hope that it will least have good music (considering ALW's expertise on that, it will probably-should have good music)!
and if anyones seen that song till i hear ou sing, well that song put tears i my eyes and if thats jst the first 3 minutes, imagine how emotional the rest will b
i know this book is horrible, but i cant lose hope for the musical. I mean hav u ever read Gregory Maguire's Wicked? Its a verrrrrrryyyyyy weird book. And the musical that was made from it was AWESOME!!! and it also reminds me f phantom a little, So im sure this musical will be great
That's a very good point. And at least they have a good Christine & Erik, so if all else fails hopefully at the very least the singing/songs will be fine.
I hate this book. I hate Forsyth for writing it, I hate Lloyd Webber for going along with it and using it as the basis for "Love Never Des", I hate anyone even remotely associated with the production of that new blasphemous musical--even the guy that ran out and got everybody their coffee/tea during rehearsals. The whole mess makes my blood boil and has me REALLY tempted to drop a chandelier on some VERY dserving heads. A new kitten must be sent to ALW, who agrees?
I compelete agree. Actually to quote Raoul from the 2004 version of Phantom "clearly genius (in this case ALW) has turned into madness."
Webber wrote a string of GREAT musicals Joseph, Superstar, Evita, Starlight, Phantom, even Aspects of love is okay (though the plot is weird beyond belif) and sunse boulevard and the woman in white but lover never dies is going to suck
I cant stand hack writers who take someone elses. Those are not your characters the original cannot be wrong because he invented it. Most people consider that copy write infringement. Sadly there are still hack novelists still writing hack Phan fiction claiming Gaston Leroux was wrong They need to watch your video. Thank you so much Phantom Reviewer for putting to words all my angst and hate for stupid people like Forsythe.
Sweet smucking hell, just the memory of reading that preface makes me angry. I hadn't even reached the first line of the actual story before I wanted to burn this drivel.
That would be an interesting anti-drugs campaign. "Careful kids - crack makes you write crap Phantom sequels!"
The clown thing doesn't really bother me, either; whoever did that drawing you used, though, is a badass; I'm not scared of clowns in the slightest, but that Erik!clown is terrifying!! XD I love it!
Father Ted! :D and romeo and Juliet were apparently based on Richard III and Anne Neville. But i agree with Forsythe, the original phantom was a mess of good writting and randomness.
Even if you don't like the writing style he still invented the story and there would be no adaptations of Phantom with out him. People still need to respect him and frankly it was written in French and translated badly that's why no on likes it in English. Forsythe book was utter shit.
oh god i'm not defending Forsythe i'm just saying the original was a shambles be it because of the translation or it's uncertain genre. When the original is good (ie. the unmasking) it's fantasic.
Ha-ha!! That book was soo bad! It sits with all my other books looking oh-so-sad! Lol, I (sadly) am thinking about re-reading it! I highly doubt I will! xD
"What the french toast?" I like that. I'm going to have to remember that one. I found this book years ago on the "most unloved super-cheap books" rack at Barnes and Noble. Bought it for a few dollars, read it, then got rid of it as soon as possible. I had forgotten many of its worst aspects. Thanks ever so much for reminding me about them. *sarcasm, sarcasm*
SERIOUSLY. Forsythe is an idiot because his book is supposed to be a sequel to ALW's musical, not the novel by Leroux.
I love how you're playing the Coney Island Waltz music behind this. XD
This was incredibly hilarious. I vaguely remember reading this trash several years ago and now it's all coming back. Oh... "Horror... horror... horror!" Yes, I completely forgot about the whole demon guy that Erik supposedly worships... for the love of Christine, what is the authors' problem??
lol to the Father Ted, Monty P, and Julie Andrews references! "There walksn foxs!" Loved this! And my god, it's really that horrible? Makes my shit look like gold.
I found that piece of trash book at a garage sale, there was a good reason why the binding was never cracked. I thought it was weird how in some parts he made Erik talk like a gangster.
This is so funny and true!!! I HATED his novel!!!! And the fact that Christine and the phantom had a baby together? Did he even Read the original book?!!?!?
Forsythe dissing Leroux's original novel and Erik speaking perfect English, being obsessed with money and getting high? Wow, this is so bad it's almost laughable...your voice acting's awesome though, can't wait to see part 2!
You know, I just realized something very peculiar. The Phantom of Manhattan was written by Frederick Forsythe. Forsythe also wrote the story, The Odessa File. The Odessa File was made into a movie starring Jon Voigt and Maximillian Shell (who played the Phantom in 1983 TV movie). And if that wasn't weird enough for you, the score for The Odessa File was written by Andrew Lloyd Webber... Wow...
LOL @ PhantomReviews! Thank you for your review - I was laughing practically the whole time!! You always give the best reviews - especially with that witty sense of humor you have! LOL! ("Walksn foxs" - LOLOLOL!!!!) And yes, Forsythe book makes absolutely no sense, whatsoever! LOL! (One has to wonder if he wasn't the one "smoking the hashish" and "seeing the demons"! LOL! )
LOL! High on drugs is the only explanation for this "novel" (and it's not even that long!) since Forsythe didn't write that badly in his other books. Has to be the drugs!
Phantom of Manhattan - this is your brain on crack!
Phantom of Manhattan = this is Forsythe's brain on crack, while watching a combination of Wee Ol' Andy's old 1980's rockstar, Phantom videos, and Dario Argento's seriously-messed-up version of Phantom! LOL!
You brought back the getting high song!! Dude, you are awesome!
13LittleLotte 1 day ago
What kind of voice effect is that? I can't understand a thing you're saying
primusfan87 1 week ago
Reviewer, if you'd make a AudioBook of this... book... I'd totally buy it. You make this sh** sound funny at least.
"It happened that on the same night there was a full moon." <- read by you = simply adorable XD
VincentoValentine 3 weeks ago
hang on, the author said that Laurox got everything wrong. If ALW was right about EVERYTHING then the phantom didn't have a name! So why did he call him Erik? Explain that! Idiot!
HorseyWitchOfTheEast 1 month ago
I almost puked when I read that m****f***ing introduction and was completely unmoved by the rest of the book. Unmoved at all. I certainly didn't love it, and it wasn't even worth hating. If it meant we got this hilarious commentary out of it, then that's more than enough for me!
angelsprotegee 2 months ago
Have you read Jennifer Linforth's 3 book series sequel of Phantom? I really enjoyed them
Poet2916 2 months ago in playlist More videos from PhantomReviews
2:01 thought you'd put that in, made me laugh...
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FATHER TED! Okay I officially love you now :)
ThePitchFinder 6 months ago 2
To me it's a book that kept me busy. I didn't react to it like i reacted to susan kay's. I agree that it was hard to keep track of who was talking. But i LMFAO at the Shakespeare part XD
viviana9098 7 months ago
mabye antoinette is maddame girys first name
castlevania3151 7 months ago
Damn, I remember wasting 11 bucks on this book that I found in the clearance bin at Barnes & Nobles. It read like bad fan fiction. Your review mirrors much of my initial reaction to that garbage perfectly.
Martiangrl86 7 months ago
omfg dude your videos are amazing and make so much sence its ridiculous, and im laughing so hard im crying rofl
Cradlechick666 9 months ago
Great use of the Father Ted clip.
Oh Father Dougal, good natured but dumb as post...
MST3K1506 11 months ago 3
I read half of the book and put it down... I thought it was awful.
ErisDogwood 11 months ago
I'm not certain if you covered it (or if you even plan to, given the content...), but there's actually a Phantom of the Opera Erotica that was recently written called Unmasqued by Colette Gale. It's ghastly, but I would love to hear your review on it.
operaxxlove 1 year ago
Because I heard you do Pierre's voice that is how I imagine his voice when he speaks. xD
Boblett285 1 year ago
This guy comes across as being so pompous through this book I just want to hit him. And what does Leroux not beng able to find Raoul to 'check' stuff have to do with him not being there for the rest of the story? even if it wasn't all FICTION!!! IDIOT! Uh, I want to hit him over the head with his book! And what the heck is with Mammon (or whoever) and who cares about the latin 'Brain teasers'?
Dude, go back to writing school.
EriksLadyOperaGhost 1 year ago
and What the French Toast was a epic choice of words :)
TheCamoTurtle 1 year ago 2
Lol and omg i just bought The phantom of manhattan D: i hope its good?
TheCamoTurtle 1 year ago
@TheCamoTurtle It is not at all. Since this was three months ago you must know by now that it is horrible.
Boblett285 1 year ago
What the French toast? XD
jazzandmint 1 year ago
If Forsythe was cleverer I'd think that the whole Latin thing was an homage to that scene from Life of Brian. Maybe he tried and failed?
Spazzbert 1 year ago 2
Hahah, this is funnyxD Your brilliant^^
LilianaCroush 1 year ago
hahaha when you did that afroman thing....priceless.
xxkewldudexx 1 year ago
GAH!!!!!
simzproductionz 1 year ago
Darius reminds me of Grima wormtongue for some reason :P
CharmedBalthazar 1 year ago
I honestly don't know whether to laugh or cry...and people actually read this book? How!? I would have started ripping out the pages and using them for origami or paper mache.
darlingzooloo 1 year ago
love the 'coney island waltz' in the background...lol
miep8675 1 year ago
Shakespeare clearly doesn't know his facts, need I remind you of Richard III?
Medusa0999 1 year ago
Brilliant. So much better than the explosion of "WTF?" from my head when I read it
charcharbinks2 1 year ago
2:06 Father Ted! I remember that episode!
Good review! Can't believe Weber is making a part 2 from this book
AnnaKin 1 year ago 2
I love that you are a West Side fan as well as Phantom. My two favorite musicals!
somewhatsecret 1 year ago
I am not a fan of book burning but I feel sorry for the paper its printed on!
neianna 1 year ago 7
Which movie version do you use for the scenes with the Phantom and "Frederick?"
Mattbrain 1 year ago
It's the 1983 Maximillian Schell/Jane Seymour version.. Check my playlists and you will see me review of it.
PhantomReviews 1 year ago 2
I hate this book. It pisses me off that my library has two freaking copies of this book yet no copies of the original novel. wtf???
PinkCharmander 1 year ago 7
Apparently, in Love Never Dies, Erik makes a Christine sexbot whom has been keeping him company the past decade since the ending of the first musical...
It just gets worse & WORSE! >:(
LerouxsPhantom 1 year ago 25
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i actually liked the book. And if it's a ficctional story, then anybody could think of the characters what they want. And it's not that the original version (which I really love) doesn't have any incoherences that are put out of the story in nearlly all versions....
ghelik1890 2 years ago
I've been calling it Phantom Takes Manhattan XD
lilrowyravenclaw 2 years ago 3
Since this review came out, I haven't been able to stop thinking of the Baron in Max Schell's version as Frederick Forsythe!
LerouxsPhantom 2 years ago
Caesar had horrid grammar, shit that's boring
longse0 2 years ago 2
The whole "walksn foxes" thing still sends me into hysterics.... XD
FlowerGirl9016 2 years ago 8
One more note, the copy of the novel I have doesn't have that introduction. If it did, I probably won't have read the story itself.
vampyrhobbit 2 years ago
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I think I'm the only Phan in the world who actually kinda liked this novel. One thing, though: this isn't a sequel to the Gaston Leroux novel. It's a novelization of a sequel musical Andrew Lloyd Webber was writing, but eventually scraped. (For obvious reasons.)
vampyrhobbit 2 years ago
Now I am very glad about not wasting my money on this book. It would have ruined Phantom of the Opera for me.
artemis1234567 2 years ago
I can't believe Forsyth believes that Madame Giry really was the chorus master...Leroux, in the original, created the character as the damn box keeper!
"An error corrected in the Andrew Lloyd Webber musical..." my ass.
SailorDirector 2 years ago 6
Forsythe obviously had a little crush.
lilrowyravenclaw 2 years ago
My dear friend, you have made my entire day with this review! I hope we'll be getting your comments on the musical based on this pile of shite book.
BerriesBaby 2 years ago 4
My father read this when it came out and he said it was shite!!! hahah
PapagenoJuan 2 years ago
"What the french toast?" Is now a part of my vocabulary.
ArtiAngel3 2 years ago 34
That will not work and would be illogical to me.
BlueGlinda1 2 years ago
Wait a minute! If Forsythe says the Persian never existed, how come Darius, the Persian's faithful servant, is in this story?
superphantomphreak 2 years ago 5
its a different character no relation what-so-ever
Alia101 2 years ago
oh my god! you are soooooooooo funny! 8:35 to the end was the best!
TheBroadwayluver5111 2 years ago 7
Loved the Life of Brian clip in there. XD
HorrorFrogPrincess 2 years ago
I've never read this book (and very likely never will), but some things puzzle me regarding the massive negative reactions of the Phans:
- Erik and Christine having a child
- Erik doing drugs
- plot being focussed on the musical rather than the Leroux novel.
All of this happens in Susan Kays book as well, and every Phan seems to love HER. Ok, she kept closer to Leroux up to the point where Christine appears, but from that on, she throws in a lot from the musical as well.
DrDeadsy 2 years ago
Well, Kay also ends the book by paying respects and homage to Leroux and the stage musical. She admits she tried to make her book a happy medium between the original and the musical. She beats Forsyth based purely on class.
stitchgrl777 2 years ago 6
I like the love never dies music in the background, on an unrelated note jane seymour used to be even hotter!
MrGemini28 2 years ago
THE BEST PART IS DARIUS! He believes he is the Devil's right hand man.
Not only that, Father Joe THINKS that he is God's right hand man.
Creeps the fuck out of me.
MusicalLover6 2 years ago
Wow. Any part of me that ever wanted to read this book has now died. Erik was talking to a demon? He was a clown? And he buys a skyscraper from selling postcards??? What the heck?
POTOPhan13 2 years ago 2
@POTOPhan13
"What the heck?" - That's exactly what I said when I read the book, when it first came out. Unfortunately, my masochistic curiosity caused waste my time and suffer reading to the very end. - I hoped it would get better, but it just got worse and worse. - What an awful book!
vShaede 2 years ago 3
Soooo.......Forsyth can waste his time on pages and pages of diologue about an English lesson, but he can't bother to ad in a few "he said"s or "she saids?!"
competentpixie 2 years ago
"I can't remember. I was high at the time."
L-O-freaking-L!!!! I cannot wait for part two! Tear it apart!!! *evil grin*
This is the only book that I truly believe deserves a good oldfashioned book burning. Burn, POH, BURN!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!
FlowerGirl9016 2 years ago
@FlowerGirl9016
Luff it.
PhantomBrick 2 years ago
Ugh. If Erik were to learn English, it would have been pre-Paris Opera House. I can actually see him learning a lot of other languages; he's certainly smart enough to!
And the thing about Erik being a clown...*dies* Gosh, Erik as a clown is scarier than his face can ever be! *geezIhateclowns* DX
iamthewalrus014 2 years ago 3
Apparently the song list from the LND CD is already leaked on the Internet.
Deepdesert 2 years ago
Where...is that song list.
stitchgrl777 2 years ago
Deepdesert 2 years ago 2
I can SO dig No.15 when I read the title of No. 2. *shudders*
DrDeadsy 2 years ago
where did you find these??????
thewylion 2 years ago
it was on a web site for POTO, apparently the cd list was listed on ebay before being pulled.
Deepdesert 2 years ago
Deepdesert 2 years ago
11. "Ah, Christine!..."
12. "Gustave! Gustave!..."
13. "Please, Miss Giry, I Want to Go Back..."
So at least the demon-god Mammon doesn't get a singing part (maybe)
Deepdesert 2 years ago 2
1) Thank you.
2) That's a LOT OF SONGS. I'm only interested in the ones that have "dialogue" titles. Because well -- I like songs like the "rooftop" and "Final Lair"...which are basically plot to music. I don't like it when they stop and go "This is my big number ::starts to sing::" (like WYWSHA)
3) I hope "The Beauty Underneath" is better than it sounds.
stitchgrl777 2 years ago
ALW said that couldn't find his way through the book. Well done, Forsyth! Bloody well done! This truly shows the stupidity of the book.
chocobasse10 2 years ago
ALW also said Leroux's book was a "mess" and "confused."
stitchgrl777 2 years ago
You just KNOW the priest and the kid are going to have a duet about that grammer lesson! Better stock up on the brain bleach!
4thtroika 2 years ago 4
Oh, and thanks for confirming my suspicions. I had a feeling this book was bad.
4thtroika 2 years ago
Oh honey, if there IS a song about the grammar lesson, I just might kill ALW before the prostate cancer does.
iamthewalrus014 2 years ago
This vid was epic! Though I haven't read the actual book, I did have the displeasure of hearing the introduction in audiobook format. Anyway, brilliant review; can't wait for part 2! Loved the chap who played Forsyth in this vid as well.
And dethe8ter, "Claudin" was the last name used in the 1943 film version... As far as anyone has been able to find out, Leroux's story of the Phantom is fiction, but with kernels of truth sprinkled in skillfully.
Toru771 2 years ago
Thank you for the correction on the last name, so I was correct in assuming that he had no last name that we know of, and as for the fiction I am not an idiot many portions were fiction but I am a firm believer that Erik and the events that surround him are in fact true. For no imagination could create such act of human sorrow.
dethe8ter 2 years ago
It's one of those stories that is so heartbreaking, you'd want it to be true. But it's not true. Maybe there is a deformed musician somewhere who fell in love with a young singer. Maybe they were caught in a love triangle. But it's not THIS deformed musician, and it's not THIS young singer. Erik and Christine Daae are as real as Jack and Rose from Titanic. Doesn't mean there's no real couple who suffered the same way. But the characters don't exist.
stitchgrl777 2 years ago 2
Actually Erik was a real person and all the events are actually based on real, just to let you all know. Erik Claudin was the Phantom's real name.
dethe8ter 2 years ago
And your evidence for this is...?
PhantomReviews 2 years ago 15
Do your research you will find it to be true. Books and movie and spinoffs do not tell the whole story.
dethe8ter 2 years ago
Okay, show me your research.
I actually did have to research the Paris Opera for a music history project. Believe me, if the phantom was real, I'd know about it. As I recall, Leroux was inspired by a real incident with the chandelier (no one died), a real Swedish soprano (she never disappeared) and a real unknown skeleton (no evidence of a ring etc.)
Tytania 2 years ago 2
He was also inspired by a man who had helped Garnier with the construction, He stayed there in The Opera House, workers years later would say "Have you seen The Phantom?" as he would dart from place to place trying to stay hidden l
This has been mentioned in the history of the ALW Musical, but I first heard it in "Histoire de l'Opéra de Paris : un siècle au palais Garnier" by Charles Dupêchez
MaskedLion 2 years ago 3
L. O. L.
Perhaps he's joking. One BIG "perhaps."
stitchgrl777 2 years ago
Oh my god, that's one huge hoax that used to float around the internet for a while. Weren't there also those mysteriously rediscovered notes that had been buried in the vaults of the opera in the late 19th century which were not to be be published until 2005 or so? Never heard of them again.
I found that information on a site that also showed pictures of the inside of the great hall, interpreting a few random lens flares as images of ghosts.
DrDeadsy 2 years ago
@dethe8ter erik claudin is from the claude rains version.
CancerousPiesRTasty 1 year ago
@CancerousPiesRTasty I realize that your seven months late on that lol
dethe8ter 1 year ago
@dethe8ter do you have crediable sources for that?
crownprincetaffe 6 months ago
It would have been a better book if he WAS high.
I never noticed that the book cover was like a werewolf novel. I DID, however, wonder there were such few pages and the book cover was so THICK and LONG. Overcompensation for lack of material, I guess!
Can we get to the part about Raoul's "Issue" soon...
stitchgrl777 2 years ago
I love how I always have to pause your videos until I'm done laughing! :)
Please post the next part soon!! And please dear reviewer, oh please punish Forsyth! I'm thinking something alá a disaster beyond your imagination...
mifledyret 2 years ago
Oh yes, Erik totally learned English from English opera librettos because English opera was soooo popular in France at that time. Or not.
Why couldn't Erik have learned English along with the scrillion other things he learned to do pre-Paris Opera.
English opera was not performed at the Paris Opera and I don't think G&S was big in France. So, English opera librettos? 'Fraid not. Sorry. Not unless some rabid Handel fan accidentally left some in the opera house.
Tytania 2 years ago
Thank you for that brilliant statement! :-)
DrDeadsy 2 years ago
LMAO
"I can't remember...I was high at the time."
I felt like I had a brain injury after reading that peice of trash.
Dhslyn486 2 years ago 3
OMG!!! I will be saying what the french toast from now on and I don't care what others think lol.
phantomobsessed 2 years ago 3
That inane scene with the priest and the kid is what put this book over into the realm of utter retardation! Thank you for warning us so we don't waste our time and money.
moonfire41 2 years ago
Awesome! That book sucks the big french toast LOL! I love that. Cant wait for more.
crawfordfanatic 2 years ago
One of the things that bothers me is that ALW is making a sequel to his masterpiece based on this damn stupid book! What is he thinking? I hope he changes a lot of things from the book.
chocobasse10 2 years ago 2
I've heard that a few changes were made to the story during its transformation from (stupid) book to (pointless) musical... but whether that's true and what the changes might be I have no idea.
I'm reserving full judgement on the musical until I get up the courage to go and see it next year, but my expectations are not high... unlike Forsythe clearly was when he wrote this.
SkeletalWings 2 years ago
I have heard one song from the new musical, which was beauiful, so I am not so concerned about the music. But the story... I am not so sure I want to know how it ends.
chocobasse10 2 years ago
"What the french toast..." Argh! I will have that going on in my head all day now! :)
chocobasse10 2 years ago
"I can't remember. I was high at the time". You don't say...
chocobasse10 2 years ago 4
The fact that you used a clip from Father Ted makes me love you even more.
An even bigger literary moron than Stephanie Meyer? I think so.
FantasmaLuna 2 years ago 4
Yeah I'll bet Breaking Dawn is great compared to PoM!
MsPinkWings 2 years ago
@MsPinkWings
In the Twilight series defense, it is meant for the 10-15 year age group. This POTO book was written with the intent for ADULTS.
I think everyone of at least average intelligence should be insulted that Forsythe thought that the rest of the human race is so dumb, his book was on our level.
Dhslyn486 2 years ago
" I can't remember. I was high at the time." That was the best way ever to end part 1. Damn that book sounds horrible, great job.
Alexandraghost 2 years ago 5
I actually ment to read this book a long time ago but didn't make it past the introduction, indeed its quiet hard to read a supposed sequel when they spend a few pages dissing the author your writing a sequel about.
piratedemoness 2 years ago
I started reading this book but I had to stop after the 1st two pages.
zoe041 2 years ago
Day of the Jackal and Dogs of War are excellent, but what the hell is this?
tico8007 2 years ago
That was exactly my reaction!
Deepdesert 2 years ago
Ahahaha hilarious one!!!
TheScorpion 2 years ago 2
I will say that its not that unusual if Erik could speak English. Please bear in mind that he had done extensive travelling around Europe, the Middle East before he came to the Paris Opera house. He lived in Turkey and Persia (Iraq) for years and he could have been adept at speaking several languages.
EmilyGreene1984 2 years ago
You don't understand... Forsythe says in his introduction that the whole persian backstory NEVER HAPPENED. He was born, he was put in a cage, and Giry rescued him. No traveling arond Europe for THIS Erik.
PhantomReviews 2 years ago
I thought the little hash sequence for Darius was hilarious! That's what being addicted to hash will get you. :P
EmilyGreene1984 2 years ago
Oh my gosh - the book sounds so awful! I don't think the sequel musical will turn out well at all - given its based on Forysthe's horrible novel. You did a wonderful job, PhantomReviewer, and gave the book the review it deserved. I still can't believe Forsythe dissed Leroux's original novel. Even if ALW had written it, its so badly written and the plot doesn't make sense at all. I can't wait to hear more!! :D Please post more soon!! :)
EmilyGreene1984 2 years ago
I'm sorry but Erik? A clown? Like, I mean, can you think of anyone less clown like? I mean, the guy's a bit of a downer, to say the least. I know he's unhinged, but good lord... I mean, clowns are scary enough, an Erik clown? Everyone in a five mile radius would soil themselves in sheer terror. >>
ExidoSutrin 2 years ago 4
What's the little clip at 2:01 from? The one with "Right, Ted, like how the Phantom of the Opera doesn't exist."
vermilionha 2 years ago
"Father Ted", a comedy show in the UK.
PhantomReviews 2 years ago
And I mean "should", as in, if the music isn't good we all know that ALW really has gone off the deep end now.
FiveCentPhantom 2 years ago
I only read two chapters of this book and couldn't read no more, it was too horrible and my brain was throbbing with annoyance and boredom.
Thank you for taking the time to read that terrible, revolting book and review it just for us!
AWESOME REVIEW(S) (can't wait till the next)!
I can only hope that Love Never Dies won't ground Phantom of the Opera's name in the dirt, I hope that it will least have good music (considering ALW's expertise on that, it will probably-should have good music)!
FiveCentPhantom 2 years ago 3
and if anyones seen that song till i hear ou sing, well that song put tears i my eyes and if thats jst the first 3 minutes, imagine how emotional the rest will b
smarterthanmyclass 2 years ago
"I can't remember, I was high at the time"
I swear those were my exact thoughts!
Personally I think whoever's read this deserves a huge sum of compensation money. Poor souls.
MsPinkWings 2 years ago
i know this book is horrible, but i cant lose hope for the musical. I mean hav u ever read Gregory Maguire's Wicked? Its a verrrrrrryyyyyy weird book. And the musical that was made from it was AWESOME!!! and it also reminds me f phantom a little, So im sure this musical will be great
smarterthanmyclass 2 years ago 2
That's a very good point. And at least they have a good Christine & Erik, so if all else fails hopefully at the very least the singing/songs will be fine.
MsPinkWings 2 years ago
I hate this book. I hate Forsyth for writing it, I hate Lloyd Webber for going along with it and using it as the basis for "Love Never Des", I hate anyone even remotely associated with the production of that new blasphemous musical--even the guy that ran out and got everybody their coffee/tea during rehearsals. The whole mess makes my blood boil and has me REALLY tempted to drop a chandelier on some VERY dserving heads. A new kitten must be sent to ALW, who agrees?
Great review, keep it up.. :)
TheaterRaven 2 years ago 2
I compelete agree. Actually to quote Raoul from the 2004 version of Phantom "clearly genius (in this case ALW) has turned into madness."
Webber wrote a string of GREAT musicals Joseph, Superstar, Evita, Starlight, Phantom, even Aspects of love is okay (though the plot is weird beyond belif) and sunse boulevard and the woman in white but lover never dies is going to suck
Peadarisback 2 years ago 4
"I can't remember. I was high at the time." XD
I've got to read this book, just out of pure curiosity as to how suckish it is...
Seriously, how can it be based on the musical?! That's not professional!!!
lilrowyravenclaw 2 years ago
I cant stand hack writers who take someone elses. Those are not your characters the original cannot be wrong because he invented it. Most people consider that copy write infringement. Sadly there are still hack novelists still writing hack Phan fiction claiming Gaston Leroux was wrong They need to watch your video. Thank you so much Phantom Reviewer for putting to words all my angst and hate for stupid people like Forsythe.
SylentPhantom 2 years ago 2
Sweet smucking hell, just the memory of reading that preface makes me angry. I hadn't even reached the first line of the actual story before I wanted to burn this drivel.
That would be an interesting anti-drugs campaign. "Careful kids - crack makes you write crap Phantom sequels!"
SkeletalWings 2 years ago 3
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buildgod93 2 years ago
Oh, wow, this book just sounds terrible. Glad I've never read it. Great review!
WickedLove1992 2 years ago
LOL West Side Story! Great review, Phantom Reviewer! :)
PoninetheEuroQueen 2 years ago
hahaha afroman spoof!!! that song is (I must say this) dope! lol
xxkewldudexx 2 years ago
I've been staying away from this novel. This review only clarifies why it despertely needs to be avoided.
QueenOfTheKelpies 2 years ago
great review as always lol "What the french toast" lol best part
he probably was high i've started reading and it is plain god awful
btw have u heard of the picture/portrait of dorian gray it is AMAZING its sort of phantomish if u would like to ever do a review on it
KCvampsandphantoms 2 years ago
Haha, ouch, man. This book makes me sad XD
The clown thing doesn't really bother me, either; whoever did that drawing you used, though, is a badass; I'm not scared of clowns in the slightest, but that Erik!clown is terrifying!! XD I love it!
Biskuits 2 years ago 2
YOU SAID IT! YOU SAID IT! You said "What the French Toast?!?!?!?!!?!?"
PharaohHazard 2 years ago
Father Ted! :D and romeo and Juliet were apparently based on Richard III and Anne Neville. But i agree with Forsythe, the original phantom was a mess of good writting and randomness.
Medusa0999 2 years ago
Even if you don't like the writing style he still invented the story and there would be no adaptations of Phantom with out him. People still need to respect him and frankly it was written in French and translated badly that's why no on likes it in English. Forsythe book was utter shit.
SylentPhantom 2 years ago 2
oh god i'm not defending Forsythe i'm just saying the original was a shambles be it because of the translation or it's uncertain genre. When the original is good (ie. the unmasking) it's fantasic.
Medusa0999 2 years ago
I know I'm just saying. That's why a lot of people don't' like the novel bad translation a lot is lost.
SylentPhantom 2 years ago
I do not understand, or what role do you if you're Erik that tells the stories or simply that you explain.
nihaldubhe27 2 years ago
You'll have to watch the reviews from the very beginning to understand how it works...
PhantomReviews 2 years ago
Ha-ha!! That book was soo bad! It sits with all my other books looking oh-so-sad! Lol, I (sadly) am thinking about re-reading it! I highly doubt I will! xD
CaptainIchabodRainy9 2 years ago
"What the french toast?" I like that. I'm going to have to remember that one. I found this book years ago on the "most unloved super-cheap books" rack at Barnes and Noble. Bought it for a few dollars, read it, then got rid of it as soon as possible. I had forgotten many of its worst aspects. Thanks ever so much for reminding me about them. *sarcasm, sarcasm*
SloeEyedDoe 2 years ago
SERIOUSLY. Forsythe is an idiot because his book is supposed to be a sequel to ALW's musical, not the novel by Leroux.
I love how you're playing the Coney Island Waltz music behind this. XD
This was incredibly hilarious. I vaguely remember reading this trash several years ago and now it's all coming back. Oh... "Horror... horror... horror!" Yes, I completely forgot about the whole demon guy that Erik supposedly worships... for the love of Christine, what is the authors' problem??
DarthxErik 2 years ago
I think it's a good thing I that I didn't read this.
Hasselhoffhater 2 years ago
lol to the Father Ted, Monty P, and Julie Andrews references! "There walksn foxs!" Loved this! And my god, it's really that horrible? Makes my shit look like gold.
Enabsflow1 2 years ago 2
I found that piece of trash book at a garage sale, there was a good reason why the binding was never cracked. I thought it was weird how in some parts he made Erik talk like a gangster.
gizmobizness1 2 years ago
This is so funny and true!!! I HATED his novel!!!! And the fact that Christine and the phantom had a baby together? Did he even Read the original book?!!?!?
JessicaStarSong 2 years ago 6
Forsythe dissing Leroux's original novel and Erik speaking perfect English, being obsessed with money and getting high? Wow, this is so bad it's almost laughable...your voice acting's awesome though, can't wait to see part 2!
EponineGraydeChagny 2 years ago 4
I was referring to the book being bad, btw.
EponineGraydeChagny 2 years ago
LOL this is the most funniest review since dairo argento (who cares if i spell it right)
because i got high because i got high
TheHorrorfreak 2 years ago
You know, I just realized something very peculiar. The Phantom of Manhattan was written by Frederick Forsythe. Forsythe also wrote the story, The Odessa File. The Odessa File was made into a movie starring Jon Voigt and Maximillian Shell (who played the Phantom in 1983 TV movie). And if that wasn't weird enough for you, the score for The Odessa File was written by Andrew Lloyd Webber... Wow...
renaleria 2 years ago 4
LOL @ PhantomReviews! Thank you for your review - I was laughing practically the whole time!! You always give the best reviews - especially with that witty sense of humor you have! LOL! ("Walksn foxs" - LOLOLOL!!!!) And yes, Forsythe book makes absolutely no sense, whatsoever! LOL! (One has to wonder if he wasn't the one "smoking the hashish" and "seeing the demons"! LOL! )
GhostGal5 2 years ago 3
Hehe! Great Father Ted quote!!
ShakespeareOfBorg 2 years ago
I love the voice acting! =-D
LightsCameraAaron 2 years ago
Here here! Make that two! :-D (I also like that witty sense of humor - which makes it twice as fun to laugh with, when he's doing his reviews!)
GhostGal5 2 years ago
LOL! High on drugs is the only explanation for this "novel" (and it's not even that long!) since Forsythe didn't write that badly in his other books. Has to be the drugs!
Phantom of Manhattan - this is your brain on crack!
Deepdesert 2 years ago 3
Ha ha ha! For sure Deepdesert!
Phantom of Manhattan = this is Forsythe's brain on crack, while watching a combination of Wee Ol' Andy's old 1980's rockstar, Phantom videos, and Dario Argento's seriously-messed-up version of Phantom! LOL!
GhostGal5 2 years ago 4
amazing points sir
xXJessWorldXx 2 years ago