@tmichael25, yes people from Muslim countries can convert to whatever religion they want. there is no force placed on them. So please stop listening to the media and relying on them to form your opinions, god gave u a brain so use it.
@VIKESHKISSFAN1992, Islam has been there since man stepped foot on earth, honestly your ignorance is just shocking!! you take an elephant as your god, how can you be proud of that?
would you be happy if someone replaced your picture with an elephant and used it as memory for you, would you like that? obviously not you ignorant person. then how the hell can u use an elephant to remember god when you wouldn't want yourself to be compared to an elephant, wake up and realise. jheeze.
dont mean to piss the fuck out of you terrorist muslim assholes but wat is the oldest religion in the world rite now mother fuckers... HINDUISM!! I am Hindu and proud and dont make fun of hindus coz our gods were way earlier than ur motherfucked up faceless bastard and terrorist raising god know as Asshole-lah bahahahahahahaha
@VIKESHKISSFAN1992 hahahah, you using bad wrods, which are the weopon who failed :P, any ways, you thinkin Islam jst startd before 1,400 yrs? haaha, no dear, It starts when God created the first man Adam(the first prophet), after many years of this, all the false religions started. Allah sent more than 1.25,000 prophets in different parts of the wrold in different time..may Rama or Krishna on of them..! (only Allah knows) but its sound so,..continued..
@VIKESHKISSFAN1992 continud..bcoz the puranas n vedas says about worship one God, who the creator of universe. aftr that prophets, the pple destroyed the verses nd fabricated for their self interest n started to mislead the people..!you can use bad wrds nd your hahahha only, bcoz you dont hv much words to reveal that your gods are the real ones.! you hv one god for create somebody, another one for destroy, nd hv many local gods..more than You people (you pple got more gods than the creations:P)
@VIKESHKISSFAN1992 ISLAM NEVER ALLOWS TERRORISM..You pple only know the news which are created by the medias,,India god many satanic medias to highlight the muslim terrorists..BUT THEY DON'T HVE TIME TO HIGHLIGHT THE NEWS ABOUT MAOIST, RRS TERRORISTS ETC.not only India, but the european medias also creatng false news..If anybody doing terrorism in the name of Islam, sure they will punished by Allah...! Quran clearly says, that "don't go for a war, untill the enemy come to you for a war"..!
This is the Book (the Qur'an), whereof there is no doubt, a guidance to those who are Al-Muttaqun [the pious and righteous persons who fear Allah much (abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds which He has forbidden) and love Allah much (perform all kinds of good deeds which He has ordained)].
Some sikh ask to testify muslims that aurangzeb or babar were nt muslim...brother I want to tell u thats nt the fact thats only the picture which some hindus created to divide sikhs and muslims...u know brother they also tels muslims that gurunanak wants to kil all muslims but he couldnt so he never cut his hair. .u tell Is this the reason behind ur hairs...
@hirukos5, if your as clever as u think u are, u would know that hinduism is a geographical term, its not the real name for your 'religion', hinduism just describes the people that live there. my forefathers are hindus in terms of where they lived, thats all. and its not a one sided arguement, its the truth, u tell me what respect are u showing god by worshipping some statue, your associating partners with god, wake up and realise!
my muslim brothers please stop commenting with abuse words...if u use such words for to reply to non muslims...then whats the difference between you and them??....talk to them in a good language even if they use bad words at you..we dont have any rights to abuse other religion other than conveying the true message...accepting the truth or denying it is up to them...there is no forcing in islam...
@johnpnb22 oh.you got a dick.i am surprised.what else you got.your language shows who indians realy are.cheap perverted bastards..now go worship your gay hanuman.
Please stop speaking ill of Hinduism or other religions other than Islam. As Muslims, it is our duty to show them and guide them to the right path, not insult them. Please be kind and spread the words of Islam with love, not with hate. This is what the Holy Quran teaches us and this is what we should follow.
There is only one God and that is Allah and Prophet Mohammad (SWT) is his Messenger.
@vamsikirilenko i am not paki.and name of my country is not hindhusthan or monkeysthan for that matter. Hindhuism sucks. now i am going to eat a nice fleshy part of your mother.dont worry you can always drink her urine though.
Criticising others is the easiest thing to do looking for faults in our ownselves now thats the tough part. Please before talking about a religion get suffient knowledge on it which is not based on what you see or hear on the media.Grow up
@kshhashim Hey u sister fucker dumb ass pig eating BASTERD shut up:WAT DO U KNOW ABOUT HINDUISM U BASTERD,,,..U MOTHER FUCKERS BLAST U MOSQUES AND SAY ISLAM IS GREAT,,,,,,,COCK CUTTING BASTERDS..........get out of HINDUSTAAN and go to u r PAKI,,,,,,,BASTERD: nAME OF U R COUNTRY IS hINDUSTAN ,,,,,,,,,,,,AND ALL THESE ISLAM TURNED HINDUS ARE U R GUYS : EVRY BODY KNOWS THAT OK.
@kshhashim Brother Salaam Allah forbids us to say anything insulting about other religions, because they may turn about and say something about Allah and Rasullah. You can talk to them logically, but don't insult.
@786Maano well said brother, this shows that you're a real muslim. you guys won't ever change that's the only truth. let the rest of the world live in peace cause we hindus, christians, buddists, jews and other religions don't have any problem living in harmony among each other! Let me ask you a question, we all know Ram,Shiva,Jesus,Buddha and even the demons but you, have you any image of Allah? Don't criticise others religion when you're following somthing blindly!
those who follow islam here in hindustan were once Hindus, who's ancestor got converted due to the fear of loosing life or victim of forcefull conversion by heartless muslim rulers....
brother you got asspect islam congratulation you got right path now u muslim ,but u should be learn more about prophet muhammad (PBUH) AND HIS FAMILY because islam never compleat with out prophet (PBUH) AND HIS FAMILY ,IF U WANT TO MAKE MUMEEN U SHOULD BE READ PROPHET FAMILY , YOUR BROTHER (SYED KAZIM HUSSAIN ZAIDI)
I M A SIKH .. I RESPECT ISLAAM AND RELEGION .. BUT I WANT TO SAY .. KI BABAR AUR AURANGAZEB NE JO ISLAAM K NAAM PAR ZULM KIYE DOOSRE MAZHAB K LOGO KO MARA MANDIRO KO TOD DALA .. GURU GOBIND SINGH K 10-11 YEARS K BETO KO ZINDA DEEWAR ME GAD DIAA.. ESIE ZULM KIYE JISKI DOONIAA ME KOI MISAL NAHI H ... KYA ISLAAM ISKI IZAZAT DETA H .??? AGAR NAHI TO DUNIAA K SARE MOULVI AND AND SPECIALLY MR. ZAKIR NNAYIK PLZ ELAAN KARO KI BABAR AND AURGZEB NE GALAT KIAA AND BOLO KI WO MUSALMAN NAHI THA
Peace Whatever wrong was done to anyone by anybody .. It should be your common sense God does command Evil.. If he does then he is not GOD.. Babar aur Aurangzeb ne jo kiya woh khuda ko malum hai aur uski saza unhe zaroor milegi. Musalman hone koi khuda k azaab se nahi bachta. WRONG IS WRONG.
@ikaaful .. good i m so happy thats u accept thats babar and aurangzeb were wrong.. u r a true muslim... but its so sad thats mejority of muslim asked thats babar and aurengzeb were true muslim they r our hero.. and specially pakistan me bachho ko histroy me padhaa jata h ki aurngzeb and babar were our hero ...
@Sandeep123kumar, everyone human will be tested, people who are wealthy are being tested, people who are poor are being tested, people who have a certain disability are being tested, and many more.
@sandeep123kumar, Allah has given humans free will, we choose to accept or ignore. However the angels In heaven do NOT have free will, they have to do what Allah says and follow his command. And we know from reading the Quran that allah will test us in many ways to see if our faith still remains strong. So many people lose faith in Allah because something bad has happened to them, that means that these people have failed a particular part of the test
@sandeep123kumar, how many times have I told u that life is a test. Allah has created life and death to see who is good in their deeds. It's like when u take an exam, you have been taught what u need toknow for the test, u have been given the knowledge, if u follow what u have nem taught u will easily pass the exam. Similarly In the Quran Allah has told us what we can do and what we cannot do, whether we choose to follow it is our choice, however following this will enable us to pass the test.
@sandeep123kumar, a foetus that doesn't get a chance in this life will go straight to heaven, their actual life will be in the hereafter, they do not have to go through the test of this life.
If a person believes in god, has faith in him, prays to him, worships him, and follows what he has said, Satan wll never be able to come near that person. Satan will keep trying to make them do something bad, but because the person will have strong faith in god, they will resist Satans temptations.
@sandeep123kumar, did I say your an idol worshipper? I said why do some Hindus think it is ok to idol worship even though it's condemned in their religion and every other religion. They are going against their own religion and disobeying god, yet they still do it. Hindus have confusion amongst their religion, some people follow a certain thing yet other Hindus don't, it makes no sense at all.
786Maano Why alla take easy test for some one and why difficult test for others without any prior basis? You have not given the answer about the test of miscarriage of foetus in path of allah? Foetus has even not given a chance for test. You have also not given the answer for question of finite good or bad work in this life and infinite reward or punishment in heaven and hell for infinite time.
Your alla is like a dictator, he is who decide, which soul has to give easy test and which soul has to give difficult test and the MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THERE IS NO PRIOR BASIS FOR THAT. Please tell me what things a person has to do to go to heaven? And I will tell you the souls who has not even given a single chance to do that.
My dear friend I am not a idol worshiper this I already said many times nor The Arya Smazies. If you have read in earlier post of me I clearly said, you can comment on thoughts of our literature we are not responsible for others. Whatever we think is authentic we believe and reject all the ideas which we do not see authentic or logical. We also condemns many of traditions in our Hindu culture, the same we do for any other sect.
Dear friend you are challenging a basic principle that says "if thing is made of something then it can be de-fragmented in its components", this everybody knows. The Alla has created something(soul) which can never be destroyed.
From which material Alla created the soul? Are they atoms,Molecules,electrons or protons or quarks or some basic field? Can you make something(soul) form these material which can never be destroyed? Please give the reference form Holly Quran from which material Alla created the soul. Does Alla was missing something? Why he needs to create souls? There were no soul before, he suddenly decided and created the soul why?.
Was it not possible for alla to create souls which can not me misled?. IF alla is playing game with us like vedio games, he himself creates heros and willans of this game why he is who(Alla) to balme us. Why there are souls which can be misled easily by siatan,it means it is the faulty creation of Alla and for his faulty creation he can not blame souls? It was the fault of alla that there he has created such souls who do not have resistivity to oppose the thought of Saitan
We all are having different behavior,nature,attitude by birth. Some are innocent,some are very sharp minded,some are very dull, some are very reckless,some are very arrogant. Alla made our soul very newly fresh so who has given these behaviour to us? Alla or someone else? If Alla then why arrogant why reckless ? If not then who?
quran isnt like gita or ramayana,which ur 1million gods dint write and the followers like tulsidas etc wrote after the death of ur god,lol...ur gods die also??...am not saying this from myself..this point was told to me by a hindu brother who embraced islam two yrs back probably!!!
ur veda saves,there is only one god..ur veda says,there is no image of god,ur gita says,those whose minds are filled with materialistic desires worship demi gods!!!read ur vedas fast and then read quran...ul find the difference!!!!but read it without ego.....and i bet all your misconceptions will be cleared,coz there are many challenges given to the disbelievers by allah..read it if u hav the guts to answer allah's questions??..quran is not written by muhammed(pbuh),its the word of god!!!
@sandeep123kumar, in Arabic SHIRK= polytheism, associating partners with god, idol worshipping.
so if someone dies whilst still committing shirk, that sin will never be forgiven by Allah. However if u realise your mistake and u repent and ask for forgiveness he may forgive. So here I'm trying to explain that idol worshipping is a massive sin which god has condemned, yet some of u hindus still do it, that is what I do not understand.
@sandeep123kumar, ok so u follow arya samaj which condemns idol worshipping right? Then why is it that the sect u belong in condemns idol worshipping, yet the sect that sanatdharam follows allows it? That doesn't even make sense, u are one religion which is Hinduism, yet u have diffrent beliefs on what is right and wrong. Yes in Islam there are sects too, but we all believe in the same thing, we do NOT idol worship, as that is one sin that Allah clearly states he will never forgive.
@sanatandharam, Arab tradition at the time permitted an arranged marriage of a daughter at any age. However, even though the marriage offer came from Muhammad's best friend, Abu Bakr (father of Ayesha), it was not accepted at that time. Another time when she was a few years older her father again offered his daughter in marriage to Muhammad pbuh and then it was left to Ayesha to make the decision.She glady accepted and this set the stage for a whole new way of thinking for men around the world.
@sanatandharam, again your going against your own scripture, prophet muhammed pbuh was clearly prophesised in your scriptures as being the last and final prophet and messenger, yet u still deny it, he's even mentioned by name, and yet u still deny.
How can u even compare gandi with prophet muhammed pbuh, gandi was nothing compared to him, nobody can be compared to prophet pbuh.
@ sandeep123kumar, once u die, u can never die again, so how does reincarnation even sound logical.
And another thing, u say idol worshipping is wrong yet so many of u sit there and worship a picture or a cow or elephant, isn't that a sin? It's clearly stated that it's wrong yet many of u idol worship. U have so many Hindu scriptures and many of them go against each other, if they were really gods words they would not go against each other like that.
@ sandeep123kumar, the theory of reincarnation was invented by Hindu scholars because they needed an explanation for why god could be so "in just". How can u even call god in just? That is absolutely wrong. When u Hindus see someone Is disabled, u straight away say oh they are only like that because they were bad in their previous life, what kind of a thing is that to say?
U need to understand god is not in just, and that this life is a test for the hereafter.
@ sandeep123kumar, we are tested in many ways. In the Quran it clearly says that If everyone single person gave zakat, poverty will be swept away from this world. Not very wealthy person gives to charity because they have the idea that if thy do, they themselves will become poor, and that is what Satan wants these people to think. So those who are very wealthy, it is all a test for them.Those who are poor who continue to have strong faith and belief In allah, Allah will make things easy for them
@ sandeep123kumar, exactly, u just called reincarnation a theory, and that's what it is, just a theory which is not right. Why do u think everything in life has to be easy? Just because someone is born disabled doesn't make them any less of a human then u are, everything in life is a test, u can't say god is in just because people are poor or some are rich or some are disabled, they are all being tested, it clearly says in the Quran that wealth and children will be a test.
@ sandeep123kumar, Allah clearly says once they want peace u have to give them peace, if u don't give them peace u instantly become a transgressor, a transgressor is someone who goes beyond the limits or boundaries, so allah says do not transgress as he dislikes the people that do that. Read the whole of chapter 2, Surah al baqarah.
@sandeep123kumar, no where in the Quran does it say kill all non Muslims, this is what it says in the Quran in chapter 2 verse 190, so type it into google, it clearly says
"Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.
Then in verse 192 it says " Sahih International
And if they cease, then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
So it says that if they attack u, u attack them back, but if they want peace u give them peace.
@786Maano Hinduism is a democracy you can see my dear friend satanandharam having a different view then me still we are in same sect called HInduism . I am from arya samaj probably he(satanandharam) believes in sanatan dharm, this is one point. Dear friend 786Maano we should discuss the thing what we believe you are free to comment on what I believe. but on those thing which I or Arya Samaz do not believe you can not comment at least for me.
I believe in Arya Samaz and its literature you are free to comment on these. Swami dayand has expalained vedas ,these are there on Arya Samaz Jamngar website,if you do not find there then let me know. All upnisadas, dharsanas and other ancient literature support reincarnation. In arya samaz jamnagnar website in rigvedadibhayabhumika book by smami dayanand there is a chapter about recarnation .Please also see the mantras from Rig veda and vayurveda in this reference. link is not working here.
But dear friend you have only said that Alla take test of the all the newly born souls but you have not given the answer why so injustice for a soul who has come out from womb of mother due to miscarriage of foetus. Why that soul is not given a single chance to prove himself/herself to follow the path on Alla? Alla gives prosperity to one soul in a prosperous family while the other soul is facing a cancer from birth
@786 why my dear friend why? give the answer of this question? you will say that its Alla,s decision then I will say that your Alla is even less then an ordinary judge. Alla give good for one while bad for another without any past(newly born soul). But our god do not do any injustice to anyone whatever you will do in this life or did in the previous life you will get result either in this life or if it remains then in next life. So our theory is more logical.
@786Maano If you have ecopy of your version of Quran then please send me the ecopy and then I will see whatever you are saying about Non Muslims are there in the Quran or not. By the way for me there is no muslim no Hindu but we all are just humans and there is one God who does not distinguish between Hindu Muslim Sikh Christian. The common set of principles which are good for every human is called DHARMA.
@satanandharam, why would the Vedas mention life after death but not reincarnation? Because reincarnation is just a theory hindus came up with, it's not the truth, it clearly mentions life after death because its the truth about what happens when we die. If people are born poor, rich, disabled, this is all a test from Allah to see if our faith will still remain strong and will we still believe in Allah after all that's happened, Wealth is a massive test from god, many take it for granted.
@satanandharam, your saying that Vedas has no mention of reincarnation as it was written before anything happened, so basically your saying that god sent down an incomplete book that didn't contain everything. Think about it yourself, why would god send down different incomplete version of books. The Vedas doesn't mention reincarnation because it is not the truth, it speaks clearly about the day of judgement and going heaven or hell, yet still u don't believe in judgement day?
@satanandharam, fine your geeta might say to idol worship, but the Vedas which has been declared by Hindu scholars to be the ultimate word of god condemns idol worshipping or making pics yet u still do it. So what I'm saying is that your holy scriptures are contradicting each other. How can the word of god be different in one Hindu scripture a then another in a different Hindu scripture, it makes no sense at all.
@satanandharam, no no u didn't offend me, u have these misconceptions of Islam which I'm trying to clear up, and obviously that can be done though debating. What I'm trying to explain is that I understand Hinduism and I understand the beliefs, nowhere in the scriptures does it say that you are allowed to worship idols, or u can male pictures of god to worship, so what I'm saying is how can u say it is ok to do so.
If u believe in god u should know that he can do anything, muhammed pbuh was given the strength from almighty god to accept the revelations and write them down, whatever the prophets did they did by the will of Allah. Such as Jesus pbuh rising the dead, he did that by gods permission. First u said Ayesha peace be upon her was 9 now your saying she was 7, make up your mind and stop telling lies
@786Maano i m not lying. he married ayesha at age 7 and had intercourse at age 9. mohammed was 54 at that time. this is a fact. you can check this. i just cant accept this fact as the man of god for this reason. to me god would not pick such a man. i dont have a problem with jesus so peace be upon him.
I was married at age 2 - that means I had a bond made by my parents that I would take a wife a certani girl (it did not happen) but my grandma kept saying I was married (I never touchd that girl or even saw after age 8).
If my grandma's words were "scriptured" I would be seen as have married an 8-moth girl, but the meaning of my grandma's word "married" was a bit different from standard - and how would I explani it to americans?
@sanatandharam, forget about the Wahhabis, shias Sunni, Allah clearly ,mentioned not to make sects, if they do then they will have to go face Allah. Yeah it is a shame that some muslims are so caught up in their sects that they forget what the Quran says, Allah will deal with them.
No nobody used force in the past to get people to convert, they had their battles yeah but that wasn't for forcing them to convert, I don't know where your getting this info from
@786Maano mohammed used force to convert a lot of people. this is in its history. also look at the history of islamic rule in india. over 100o years of forcing people to convert through taxing and forceful ways. this was the case in india until people stood up and fought them out. just like the british.
@sanatandharam, that's your belief, your own book says god did not walk the earth but in fact it was the prophet, If u deny this statement in the Vedas it means u reject your scripture, simple as that.
And FYI people convert to Islam because it is the one and only truth, we don't have hundreds of books to follow like u do so that everyone gets confused and starts following different things, we have only one book and that's the Quran,
@786Maano no where in the vedas it says i will not incarnate or send messengers. about islam is the only truth is really pushing it. how did prophet who could not read or write remember the whole quran? also why didnt god tell mohammed and not send gabrel in the moutains? why did mohammed marry aiyesh at age 7? do you think god would want him to do this.
@sanatandharam, again Im saying stop making stuff about Islam, no one can force someone to become a muslim, they are forced into becoming a Muslim they are not Muslim, it has to be done through choice, so get your facts right u ignorant person
@786Maano i said islam had a history where they forced people to convert by force. i did not say this is happening today. there are other approaches that are taken that are not forceful so i agree with that. i am not sure if i agree with the approaches but they are not violent forceful.
@sanatandharam, no Islam keeps women safe and respects them, they are told to wear a veil for that reason, it clearly states in your religion that women should wear a veil but do any of u know that, u wanna pinpoint muslim women and they are oppresses even though every religions permits women to cover themselves
@786Maano no i like the veil but not the burka. i think there are many social problems with muslims. i think wahabis preach hate into people which makes muslims to hate others. i wish that was not the case.
I don't follow the Vedas, I merely look into it to see the similarities between Islam and Hinduism. U say that god walked the earth, then why doesn't the Vedas mention that? It clearly says that rishies who were prophets were sent down. Im using your own religious scripture to go against what your saying. You Hindus hold importance of one Hindu holy scripture over the other, that's hypocritical, if they are really "the word of god" they shouldn't be ranked as which is moat important.
@786Maano its not hypocritical at all. we believe that god is everywhere and in all living things. you just have to see god to realize the truth. how you realize the truth is not important. its karma that is important with us. the actions you perform in this life ultimately decides how and where you end up.
@786Maano thats simple, vedas were written before any incarnation actually took place. this is why there is no mention of lord krishna or lord ram in the vedas etc.... this is why the geeta and other scriptures are relevent. i know the guys who do comparison with islam and other religions but they only tell part of the story not the full story. if allah walked the earth as lord ram or krishna would you not worship him in those forms? of course you would. this is why we do to show devotion to god
I only follow the Quran as that is the true and only word of god, Quran has been sent to the whole of mankind, whether u choose to believe in it is your choice. One question, if u believe hinduism is the only way of life why aren't there many people converting to it? Yet u think Islam is a lie but it is tue worlds most fastest growing religion, people are becoming more and more aware of the truth.
@786Maano its been a prophecy that false religion will rule the earth in kaliyuga (present time). this is in the vedas. i am sure you read this since you know hinduism and vedas so well. as to why people convert thats easy. many people have hard time understanding hinduism. lot of them hang around muslims who try to brain wash them by making them think that hinduism has more then 1 god. which is not the case. hinduism has 1 god that is transcended in many forms.
@786Maano people also convert to islam because it is a simple religion to follow. not much to it. it especially good for women who have been treated like lustful objects. they find it that islam is much fitting and respectful. in some ways it is but there is not equal treatment between man and women. i have to say that.
@786Maano other reason why islam is increasing is by large family size. this has been a big factor in the past 20 years world wide. multiply like ants. conversion through bribing and gifts etc... is also another reason. trying to go after people who are poor is also another way. muslims goal is to get as many converts as possible. hinduism doesnt have this like a business. we dont worry about convertsion because everyone is hindu and everyone fits in our belief system in some ways.
No the Vedas was not talking about Islam being a fake religion, that's just u assuming that because your ignorant. The Vedas was talking about man made religions that would be so into idol worshipping, which is actually sort of what your doing, your idol worshipping, your associating partners with god even thought he doesn't have any. Do us all a favour and read ALL your scriptures before trying to preach, I know your scriptures better then what u do.
@786Maano so you know hinduism and you are writting about elephant head. you are not making much sense at all. look at what you are saying. if you think vedas is correct then do you follow the vedas/quran or both?
Maybe in your opinion the geeta is the highest of all but not in the eyes of many Hindu scholars, how do u expect people to follow Hinduism when there are so many contradictions in that religion and different Hindu scholars prefer different books, it makes no sense of all. For Muslims there is only the quan,one beautiful book which explains everything without contradictions.
And again the Vedas says that god did not come down to earth, but he sent rishies who were prophets to spread the message
@786Maano this is what muslim believe so that the prophet concept makes sense. this is far from the truth. there is so much evidence in indian infrastructure about the fact that lord ram/krishna etc... all walked the earth.
@786Maano vedas were written at a very early stages before many of the incarnations. this is why there is significance of other scriptures that came later on.
@sanatandharam, this is what I mean when u say u have little knowledge of Hinduism, you don't even know what your own religious scripture says yet u wanna come here and insult Islam which u have no knowledge of. I'm not bashing your religion, I'm clearly saying what many Hindu scholars have said, that the Vedas is what u Hindus should follow, not the other scriptures. I have manners, I don't need to insult another religion like u do just to get my point across.
@786Maano i knew you were going to mention the vedas but the geeta is considered the highest as it sums up all the scriptures and delivers the clear message that it is fine to worship god in form or non-form way. so worshipping god in the form when he walked earth only shows respect to the almighty. jai shree ram
@786Maano if we should only follow vedas then why have other scriptures. vedas were the original scriptures but god has come and walked the earth many times in his manly form to reveal more to mankind. this is why we have bhagvad geeta etc.... ramayan etc......
@sanatandharam, it clearly mentions in the Vedas and ragveda that this prophet will be the last, he will eat all lawful things, he will have a beard, he will preach what is right, he will get his revelation when he's in the mountain, he will migrate, which he did from Mecca to madina, and after all this evidence u Hindus still don't believe in him, even though he has been clearly described in your holy scriptures, so think about that Before u insult him like that.
@sanatandharam, I'm not bashing your religion I'm stating facts, what your saying about Islam is a lie, um trying to remove the misconceptions that u have. God is imageless so how can u say he has an elephant head just listen to how hypocritical u sound, u wanna sit there insulting prophet muhammed pbuh even though he is your prophet too, he was sent to the whole of humankind as a mercy. His name is in your holy scriptures yet u want to deny him. The Vedas talks about him
@786Maano first of all you guys like to think he is in the vedas. he is not. zakir nyak and other have said he is considered as kalki which is not the case. he forgot to mention that kalki incarnation is far from today. also he translated the names from arabic meanings of mohameds parents names to match those of what will be the name of lord kalki. he jumps back and forth between arabic and sanskrit to fit his points across but kalki incarnation is dated far in the future. mohamed not in vedas.
@sanatandharam, your committing sin by doing that, no religious scripture says to make pictures put of god yet your doing the opposite. U need to go back to the vedas and learn what Hinduism teach, don't follow the manmade geeta, your own religious Hindu people have said not to follow it, so it looks like u have very little knowledge of your own religion, go read the Vedas for your own sake
@sanatandharam, all I'm gonna say to u is go and read the Vedas, many Hindu scholars have said that is the most trustworthy and that all other Hindu scriptures besides Vedas should be rejected, this is what your people have said not me. The bhagvad geeta is not the word of god, it's manmade, this is what your Hindus say yet your still following he geeta. It clearly says in the Vedas, ragveda, upanishad that god has no idols, no pictures, no image, yet u still think it's ok to worship an elephant
@786Maano word of geeta is word of god lord krishna. today many if not all hindus follow it. i dont know where you get these facts. i would say quran is manmade. how did mohammed write the quran if he could not read or write. did he remember the whole message when he was told by gabriel?
So basically your following hindu people theories, not god. U need to read up on your scriptures, especially the vedas as that is the most trustworthy
@sanatandharam, yet after all this evidence some Hindus still believe in reincarnation, even though it I's clearly mentioned in the vedas which is the most holiest Hindu scripture that reincarnation is not what happens, it's a lie. Hindu scholars came up with the theory of reincarnation because they wanted to justify why god could be so unjust, even though the answer to that is that life is a test, Allah will test us to see that after everything we go through will we still believe in Allah
@sanatandharam01, the Vedas rejects the idea of reincarnation, it clearly states that there is no cycle of life, that a person os born, then dies, born then dies, the vedas says non such thing exists, it says there is only one life that we get to do good, and however good we do in this life depends on whether or not u enter heaven or hell, and don't try denying that. The book rigveda gives a clear description of swark-heaven and nark-hell.
@sandeep123kumar,The Vedas which hindus consider the most holiest and trustworthy scripture completely rejects the idea of reincarnation, yet u still believe it? Your contradicting what your own religious scripture says, the vedas says that this life is a test and based on your deeds u will either go hell ot heaven in the next life. Vedas is very similar to the quran.
@786Maano it doesnt reject the idea of reincarnation at all. it just doesnt mention much about it. this is why at a later time lord krishna revealed us the bhagvad geeta. the geeta sums up all the holi scriptures and defines the path clearly.
@sandeep123kumar, islam does not say that u should kill non muslims, your taking everything out of context, allah says if your enemy is trying to attack u or kill u do not hesitate and attack them back, this is what any army officer will say to its soldiers, that do not be scared and attack them. If u read the bit after allah says that, he says if your enemy wants peace u give them peace, and also take them to a place of security where they will not be harmed, that is the religion of peace.
Om visvani dev savitar duritani prasuva yad badram a sua
" he buraiyon ko door kerne wale parmeswar , he bramand ko chalane wale ,palna kerne wale parmeswar mere sari buraiyo ko door ker dejeye or jo jo bhe kalyan kerne wala swabhav hai vo muzko prapt karaiye"
Hinduism a sect where you find all sort of people. I believe in vedic religion and its believe in only one God no idol worshiping nothing. We believe that god is everywhere but not like that it is at "satva asman(7) or chutha asman(4)". If there is no incarnation then how god decide "which soul has to go to which species" without any past history. It will be injustice for a soul, one soul comes out when foetus died in the womb while other remains for 70 years in the body.
if newly born(according to Islam) soul has been sent to a foetus who has cancer what is the fault of that newly born soul? that soul even has not given a single chance to prove whether it is against Alla or not. Is this is not injustice ? Does it is the justice of Islamic God. In this life we work for finite time and Islamic god put us for infinite time in hell or heaven. is this a justice? infinite punishment or reward for a finite work.
ven an ordinary judge can not give punishment without prior reasons But Alla give punishment to some newly born souls and reward to other newly born souls without any prior reason. Alla permits to kill people who are nonmuslims( muslims are those who accept Islam). A non Muslim whether he/she is very nice person in behaviour help poor people also goes to hell. You show me one book of our Hindu culture whether it is a worse then worse where it is written kill non Hindus?
I amazed some time when people say Islam is religion for peace. Show me where in Islam peace is there for non Muslims(one or two or very few sentences are there). I will show you where is the peace for everyone in our literature( Sarve bhavantu shukhina sharve santu nira maya) is there any mentioning for Hinus or Non Hindus in this and I will show you hundreds and hundreds of slokas many more. Where are the teaching for non Muslims in Islamic literature?
Saudi Arabia is the country where government runs on Islamic principle. Only Muslims and Christians are allowed to have job there. You have to prove there that you are Muslim or Christian . I think Islam does not allow that non Muslim should he there in this world. Then how do I believe that Islam is a religion for peace. Islam want peace for Muslims only. I will welcome all the Muslims brothers who will show that Islam also says good things for Non Muslims.
I agree that at many places there are sects in Hindu religion which have written books which are full of impossible tasks which Like "puranas,tantra granth". There are a lot of wrong traditions sati pratha, child marriage,bhoot pret, thousands of God,Idol worship. Many our ancient books by great scholars are corrupted by so called brahmans who even do not now what the knowledge is.
I belong to vedic religion which do not believe in all the wrong tradition of hindus. For me god is one. It is every where. There is no idol of it. It have the highest power. It do full justice to everyone. For God humans are Human no Hindu no Muslim no Christian other wise Muslims will be having different blood groups organs ,genes then of Hindus and so on. God is every where also in our soul. It knows what bad and good we are doing with others irrespective of Hindu or Muslim.
@, look theres no need to disrespect Islam, your making filthy remarks about our beloved prophet muhammed pbuh and Allah SWT, there's no need for that, if u have a question just ask, don't make stuff up.
@Amitkkusan, Islam has been there since the beginning of time, since man stepped foot on earth. A Muslim is someone who submits their will to Allah, and that's what all the prophets did, all the prophets, Moses, Abraham, Jesus, Adam e.t.c were all Muslims, they were not Jews or Christians, they were Muslims. You think that Islam is a new religion when it clearly is not, it's been there since the beginning of time.
@Sanatandharam01, u cannot call yourself a Hindu if u believe that it is ok to worship god through a statue, your religion, along with every other religion condemns it, but still there are people out there like u who still go and do it, it's a major sin. Your basically saying that this statue is worthy of worship and your putting it at the same level of god, your idol worshipping which is a major sin. I respect your religion, but your completely doing the opposite of what your religion says.
@786Maano it is clearly stated in the bhagvad geeta that it is fine to worship god in a form or non-form. most if not all hindus today prefer this method of worship. there is nothing wrong with this approach at all. to worship god in the form when he walked the earth is only showing respect to his existence. check the geeta.
@Sanatandharam01, this life is merely a test, the real life is in the hereafter, people either spend eternity in hell or spend eternity in heaven, u don't get a choice to keep coming back reincarnated until the person becomes good, u only have one chance to be good and please Allah
@786Maano i am good and i good to all mankind. this is what my religion says. i dont need to be brainwashed into thinking that i am going to burn in hell. i know that performing good actions god will reword me. this is why my god teaches me. your god will burn everyone who dont read and follow the quran. i am sorry but i cant imagine god being that cruel humanity. god is loving and understanding. he also doesnt want all his children fighting in his name. Jai Shree Ram
@Sanatandharam01, u Hindus believe in reincarnation, think about it yourself for a minute, this life is a test, we have been given free will and our own mind to judge between right and wrong, it's our job to find the truth and follow it till the end. Yet Hindus believe that if a person dies they will be reincarnated again and again until they become good people, you tell me how does that sound logical? It is stated clearly that once someone dies he cannot die again.You have one chance to do good
@786Maano it makes complete sense. think about it. if we only come once then we spend most of the time in the grave yard according to you. according to us god allows us to be reborn and discover the truth and until we do we suffer on this earth. this makes complete sense. day of judgement makes no sense at all.
@Sanatandharam01, no Muslim can force a non Muslim to convert, before the non Muslim is about to convert they are asked whether they are doing this out of their free will or by force, if they say by force the Muslims cannot revert them. Non Muslims cannot make a testimony of faith by force, they have to believe themselves that it's the right thing to do, not because someones forcing them. please don't sit there making stuff up about Islam.
@Sanatandharam01, how dare u worship an animal and say your worshipping god. Yor contradicting yourself and going against your own scripture, your scripture clearly says to not make pictures or idols out of god, yet u Hindus are doing the exact opposite, don't comment on another religion when u don't even know your own properly. And please don't make stuff up about our beloved prophet muhammed pbuh.
@786Maano first of all we worship god not animals. secondly learn a little about hinduism before you start making stuff up. in the geeta bhagvad geeta that is, it is stated that we can worship god in any form or non form way. it all goes to one all mighty god. about your prophet please check at what age he married ayesha. he was 54 and she was 7. explain that to me.
@Sanatandharam01, your saying that u want Muslims to respect other religions yet your not respecting Islam, your a hypocrite. U show me one verse in the Hindu scripture where god says that it is ok for u to make idols,pictures or sculptures out of me, he does NOT say that, that's what your pandits or whoever started to do. Your saying that it's ok to worship an elephant because you wanna be closer to god and make it feel more real, your insulting god by doing that.
@786Maano how do you expect me to answer when you bash my religion first. you want me to sit back and take it. its not going to happen. even at best i have not bashed your religion i have only stated the facts. as i said the geeta clearly states it is fine to worship god in form or non-form way. worshiping lord ganesh is praying for wisdom and knowledge. you should understand the story behind how he received the head of the elephant. his head is a symbolic reminder of a son obeying his mother.
MASHALLAH:) bro
famous1779 5 days ago
@tmichael25, yes people from Muslim countries can convert to whatever religion they want. there is no force placed on them. So please stop listening to the media and relying on them to form your opinions, god gave u a brain so use it.
786Maano 2 weeks ago
@tmichael25, I swear you worship rats? or eat them...something along that line! disgusting!
786Maano 2 weeks ago
@way2islam100, LOL yes your right! its not a religion at all!
786Maano 2 weeks ago
can anyone from muslim countries convert to other religons ????? stop this conversion shit muzzie rats
tmichael25 2 weeks ago
@tmichael25 only fools will convrt to othr rligions..okay? islam nver fall..thats your dream only :)
way2islam100 2 weeks ago
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@tmichael25 only fools will convrt to othr rligions..okay? islam nver fall..thats your dream only :)
way2islam100 2 weeks ago
@VIKESHKISSFAN1992, Islam has been there since man stepped foot on earth, honestly your ignorance is just shocking!! you take an elephant as your god, how can you be proud of that?
would you be happy if someone replaced your picture with an elephant and used it as memory for you, would you like that? obviously not you ignorant person. then how the hell can u use an elephant to remember god when you wouldn't want yourself to be compared to an elephant, wake up and realise. jheeze.
786Maano 3 weeks ago 2
dont mean to piss the fuck out of you terrorist muslim assholes but wat is the oldest religion in the world rite now mother fuckers... HINDUISM!! I am Hindu and proud and dont make fun of hindus coz our gods were way earlier than ur motherfucked up faceless bastard and terrorist raising god know as Asshole-lah bahahahahahahaha
VIKESHKISSFAN1992 3 weeks ago
@VIKESHKISSFAN1992 hahahah, you using bad wrods, which are the weopon who failed :P, any ways, you thinkin Islam jst startd before 1,400 yrs? haaha, no dear, It starts when God created the first man Adam(the first prophet), after many years of this, all the false religions started. Allah sent more than 1.25,000 prophets in different parts of the wrold in different time..may Rama or Krishna on of them..! (only Allah knows) but its sound so,..continued..
way2islam100 3 weeks ago
@VIKESHKISSFAN1992 continud..bcoz the puranas n vedas says about worship one God, who the creator of universe. aftr that prophets, the pple destroyed the verses nd fabricated for their self interest n started to mislead the people..!you can use bad wrds nd your hahahha only, bcoz you dont hv much words to reveal that your gods are the real ones.! you hv one god for create somebody, another one for destroy, nd hv many local gods..more than You people (you pple got more gods than the creations:P)
way2islam100 3 weeks ago
@VIKESHKISSFAN1992 ISLAM NEVER ALLOWS TERRORISM..You pple only know the news which are created by the medias,,India god many satanic medias to highlight the muslim terrorists..BUT THEY DON'T HVE TIME TO HIGHLIGHT THE NEWS ABOUT MAOIST, RRS TERRORISTS ETC.not only India, but the european medias also creatng false news..If anybody doing terrorism in the name of Islam, sure they will punished by Allah...! Quran clearly says, that "don't go for a war, untill the enemy come to you for a war"..!
way2islam100 3 weeks ago
Hinduism just go and drunk with cow,s pee that,s Hinduism teach about humanity thumbs up if u are agree ?
shahzadnaeem111 1 month ago
This is the Book (the Qur'an), whereof there is no doubt, a guidance to those who are Al-Muttaqun [the pious and righteous persons who fear Allah much (abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds which He has forbidden) and love Allah much (perform all kinds of good deeds which He has ordained)].
Kakuzidan 1 month ago
Some sikh ask to testify muslims that aurangzeb or babar were nt muslim...brother I want to tell u thats nt the fact thats only the picture which some hindus created to divide sikhs and muslims...u know brother they also tels muslims that gurunanak wants to kil all muslims but he couldnt so he never cut his hair. .u tell Is this the reason behind ur hairs...
rajlakanver 1 month ago
allahu akbar
terminal781 1 month ago
@hirukos5, if your as clever as u think u are, u would know that hinduism is a geographical term, its not the real name for your 'religion', hinduism just describes the people that live there. my forefathers are hindus in terms of where they lived, thats all. and its not a one sided arguement, its the truth, u tell me what respect are u showing god by worshipping some statue, your associating partners with god, wake up and realise!
786Maano 1 month ago
@786Maano hinduism is not a religion, it is the remaining part of mohan jodaro n harappan culture...hehe
way2islam100 3 weeks ago
@way2islam100 islam will fall soon you will see
tmichael25 2 weeks ago
plz write ALLAH ALMIGHTY in capital letters in description....
shanizxc 2 months ago
my muslim brothers please stop commenting with abuse words...if u use such words for to reply to non muslims...then whats the difference between you and them??....talk to them in a good language even if they use bad words at you..we dont have any rights to abuse other religion other than conveying the true message...accepting the truth or denying it is up to them...there is no forcing in islam...
shamsuboy 2 months ago
@johnpnb22 oh.you got a dick.i am surprised.what else you got.your language shows who indians realy are.cheap perverted bastards..now go worship your gay hanuman.
kshhashim 2 months ago
fitra means teri maa ki chuut.
johnpnb22 2 months ago
Dear Muslim brotheres and sisters,
Please stop speaking ill of Hinduism or other religions other than Islam. As Muslims, it is our duty to show them and guide them to the right path, not insult them. Please be kind and spread the words of Islam with love, not with hate. This is what the Holy Quran teaches us and this is what we should follow.
There is only one God and that is Allah and Prophet Mohammad (SWT) is his Messenger.
khaterarahimi 2 months ago
are hao re gandiye.............
TheOutlander04 3 months ago
@vamsikirilenko i am not paki.and name of my country is not hindhusthan or monkeysthan for that matter. Hindhuism sucks. now i am going to eat a nice fleshy part of your mother.dont worry you can always drink her urine though.
kshhashim 3 months ago
sEE THIS DUMB MOTHER FUCKING SPEAKER,,,,,SHUT UP U ASS HOLE
vamsikirilenko 3 months ago
HEY HINDU bro ,,, DID U GET YR DICK CHOPPED OFF AFTER CONVERSION??
BABAMUGHALBABASAHEB 3 months ago
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Criticising others is the easiest thing to do looking for faults in our ownselves now thats the tough part. Please before talking about a religion get suffient knowledge on it which is not based on what you see or hear on the media.Grow up
Armana14 3 months ago
hindhuism sucks.
kshhashim 4 months ago 6
@kshhashim Hey u sister fucker dumb ass pig eating BASTERD shut up:WAT DO U KNOW ABOUT HINDUISM U BASTERD,,,..U MOTHER FUCKERS BLAST U MOSQUES AND SAY ISLAM IS GREAT,,,,,,,COCK CUTTING BASTERDS..........get out of HINDUSTAAN and go to u r PAKI,,,,,,,BASTERD: nAME OF U R COUNTRY IS hINDUSTAN ,,,,,,,,,,,,AND ALL THESE ISLAM TURNED HINDUS ARE U R GUYS : EVRY BODY KNOWS THAT OK.
vamsikirilenko 3 months ago
@kshhashim u sister suckss my dickk. saale terror ki olad.
johnpnb22 2 months ago
@kshhashim Brother Salaam Allah forbids us to say anything insulting about other religions, because they may turn about and say something about Allah and Rasullah. You can talk to them logically, but don't insult.
555season 2 weeks ago
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786Maano 4 months ago 17
@786Maano well said brother, this shows that you're a real muslim. you guys won't ever change that's the only truth. let the rest of the world live in peace cause we hindus, christians, buddists, jews and other religions don't have any problem living in harmony among each other! Let me ask you a question, we all know Ram,Shiva,Jesus,Buddha and even the demons but you, have you any image of Allah? Don't criticise others religion when you're following somthing blindly!
Veekil 3 months ago
@786Maano Lmao stop insulting your forefathers who were hindus. Educate yourself first about Hinduism and then make you stupid one sided comments.
hirukos5 1 month ago
@786Maano You're quite rude insulting these people. I sure don't wish a terrible fate upon you. Take care!
smisL 1 month ago
@isometeric i wonder is this what ur religion teaches u....shame on u....
ausaff0123 4 months ago
those who follow islam here in hindustan were once Hindus, who's ancestor got converted due to the fear of loosing life or victim of forcefull conversion by heartless muslim rulers....
balla26091983 4 months ago
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I just flushes the koran in the toilet
isometric85 4 months ago 2
@isometric85 DO YOU WANT A FUCKING SLAD YOU PEICE OF SHIT
farah543211 4 months ago
@farah543211 i will slap ur muslim mother and you
isometric85 4 months ago
brother you got asspect islam congratulation you got right path now u muslim ,but u should be learn more about prophet muhammad (PBUH) AND HIS FAMILY because islam never compleat with out prophet (PBUH) AND HIS FAMILY ,IF U WANT TO MAKE MUMEEN U SHOULD BE READ PROPHET FAMILY , YOUR BROTHER (SYED KAZIM HUSSAIN ZAIDI)
kazim411 4 months ago
islam is fake
jayd4ever 4 months ago
I M A SIKH .. I RESPECT ISLAAM AND RELEGION .. BUT I WANT TO SAY .. KI BABAR AUR AURANGAZEB NE JO ISLAAM K NAAM PAR ZULM KIYE DOOSRE MAZHAB K LOGO KO MARA MANDIRO KO TOD DALA .. GURU GOBIND SINGH K 10-11 YEARS K BETO KO ZINDA DEEWAR ME GAD DIAA.. ESIE ZULM KIYE JISKI DOONIAA ME KOI MISAL NAHI H ... KYA ISLAAM ISKI IZAZAT DETA H .??? AGAR NAHI TO DUNIAA K SARE MOULVI AND AND SPECIALLY MR. ZAKIR NNAYIK PLZ ELAAN KARO KI BABAR AND AURGZEB NE GALAT KIAA AND BOLO KI WO MUSALMAN NAHI THA
TheJattdhillon 5 months ago
@TheJattdhillon
Peace Whatever wrong was done to anyone by anybody .. It should be your common sense God does command Evil.. If he does then he is not GOD.. Babar aur Aurangzeb ne jo kiya woh khuda ko malum hai aur uski saza unhe zaroor milegi. Musalman hone koi khuda k azaab se nahi bachta. WRONG IS WRONG.
ikaaful 5 months ago
@ikaaful .. good i m so happy thats u accept thats babar and aurangzeb were wrong.. u r a true muslim... but its so sad thats mejority of muslim asked thats babar and aurengzeb were true muslim they r our hero.. and specially pakistan me bachho ko histroy me padhaa jata h ki aurngzeb and babar were our hero ...
TheJattdhillon 4 months ago
@TheJattdhillon no wonder pakistan ki yeh halat hai . lootere aur daheshatgard ko hero ki status dete hain!!
BABAMUGHALBABASAHEB 3 months ago
@TheJattdhillon
to understand islam dont look at people ...look at Prophet Muhammad ( SAWW)......
arsalansonunigam11 4 months ago
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@Sandeep123kumar, everyone human will be tested, people who are wealthy are being tested, people who are poor are being tested, people who have a certain disability are being tested, and many more.
786Maano 5 months ago
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@sandeep123kumar, Allah has given humans free will, we choose to accept or ignore. However the angels In heaven do NOT have free will, they have to do what Allah says and follow his command. And we know from reading the Quran that allah will test us in many ways to see if our faith still remains strong. So many people lose faith in Allah because something bad has happened to them, that means that these people have failed a particular part of the test
786Maano 5 months ago
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@sandeep123kumar, how many times have I told u that life is a test. Allah has created life and death to see who is good in their deeds. It's like when u take an exam, you have been taught what u need toknow for the test, u have been given the knowledge, if u follow what u have nem taught u will easily pass the exam. Similarly In the Quran Allah has told us what we can do and what we cannot do, whether we choose to follow it is our choice, however following this will enable us to pass the test.
786Maano 5 months ago
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@sandeep123kumar, a foetus that doesn't get a chance in this life will go straight to heaven, their actual life will be in the hereafter, they do not have to go through the test of this life.
If a person believes in god, has faith in him, prays to him, worships him, and follows what he has said, Satan wll never be able to come near that person. Satan will keep trying to make them do something bad, but because the person will have strong faith in god, they will resist Satans temptations.
786Maano 5 months ago
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@sandeep123kumar, did I say your an idol worshipper? I said why do some Hindus think it is ok to idol worship even though it's condemned in their religion and every other religion. They are going against their own religion and disobeying god, yet they still do it. Hindus have confusion amongst their religion, some people follow a certain thing yet other Hindus don't, it makes no sense at all.
786Maano 5 months ago
786Maano Why alla take easy test for some one and why difficult test for others without any prior basis? You have not given the answer about the test of miscarriage of foetus in path of allah? Foetus has even not given a chance for test. You have also not given the answer for question of finite good or bad work in this life and infinite reward or punishment in heaven and hell for infinite time.
sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
Your alla is like a dictator, he is who decide, which soul has to give easy test and which soul has to give difficult test and the MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THERE IS NO PRIOR BASIS FOR THAT. Please tell me what things a person has to do to go to heaven? And I will tell you the souls who has not even given a single chance to do that.
sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
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@sandeep123kumar If a soul is not given a chance (i.e. a child) - he goes straight to Paradise if dies as an infant.
IvanKolosnik 5 months ago
786Maano
My dear friend I am not a idol worshiper this I already said many times nor The Arya Smazies. If you have read in earlier post of me I clearly said, you can comment on thoughts of our literature we are not responsible for others. Whatever we think is authentic we believe and reject all the ideas which we do not see authentic or logical. We also condemns many of traditions in our Hindu culture, the same we do for any other sect.
sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
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sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
Dear friend you are challenging a basic principle that says "if thing is made of something then it can be de-fragmented in its components", this everybody knows. The Alla has created something(soul) which can never be destroyed.
sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
From which material Alla created the soul? Are they atoms,Molecules,electrons or protons or quarks or some basic field? Can you make something(soul) form these material which can never be destroyed? Please give the reference form Holly Quran from which material Alla created the soul. Does Alla was missing something? Why he needs to create souls? There were no soul before, he suddenly decided and created the soul why?.
sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
Was it not possible for alla to create souls which can not me misled?. IF alla is playing game with us like vedio games, he himself creates heros and willans of this game why he is who(Alla) to balme us. Why there are souls which can be misled easily by siatan,it means it is the faulty creation of Alla and for his faulty creation he can not blame souls? It was the fault of alla that there he has created such souls who do not have resistivity to oppose the thought of Saitan
sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
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@sandeep123kumar God created such souls - angels
IvanKolosnik 5 months ago
We all are having different behavior,nature,attitude by birth. Some are innocent,some are very sharp minded,some are very dull, some are very reckless,some are very arrogant. Alla made our soul very newly fresh so who has given these behaviour to us? Alla or someone else? If Alla then why arrogant why reckless ? If not then who?
sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
quran isnt like gita or ramayana,which ur 1million gods dint write and the followers like tulsidas etc wrote after the death of ur god,lol...ur gods die also??...am not saying this from myself..this point was told to me by a hindu brother who embraced islam two yrs back probably!!!
obaida7 5 months ago
ur veda saves,there is only one god..ur veda says,there is no image of god,ur gita says,those whose minds are filled with materialistic desires worship demi gods!!!read ur vedas fast and then read quran...ul find the difference!!!!but read it without ego.....and i bet all your misconceptions will be cleared,coz there are many challenges given to the disbelievers by allah..read it if u hav the guts to answer allah's questions??..quran is not written by muhammed(pbuh),its the word of god!!!
obaida7 5 months ago
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@sandeep123kumar, in Arabic SHIRK= polytheism, associating partners with god, idol worshipping.
so if someone dies whilst still committing shirk, that sin will never be forgiven by Allah. However if u realise your mistake and u repent and ask for forgiveness he may forgive. So here I'm trying to explain that idol worshipping is a massive sin which god has condemned, yet some of u hindus still do it, that is what I do not understand.
786Maano 5 months ago
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@sandeep123kumar, ok so u follow arya samaj which condemns idol worshipping right? Then why is it that the sect u belong in condemns idol worshipping, yet the sect that sanatdharam follows allows it? That doesn't even make sense, u are one religion which is Hinduism, yet u have diffrent beliefs on what is right and wrong. Yes in Islam there are sects too, but we all believe in the same thing, we do NOT idol worship, as that is one sin that Allah clearly states he will never forgive.
786Maano 5 months ago
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@sanatandharam, This explanation should clarify the marriage between muhammed pbuh and Ayesha, may Allah be pleased with her.
786Maano 5 months ago
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@sanatandharam,
The message became clear to all - Women do have rights after all.
She cannot marry until she is old enough to bear children.
She cannot be married off without her consent.
She must be given a marriage gift (mahr) of her choice.
She must be given clear explanation of the terms and aggreements of the marriage (in writing).
She can choose to accept or reject a marriage proposal without fear of family reprimand.“
786Maano 5 months ago
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@sanatandharam, Arab tradition at the time permitted an arranged marriage of a daughter at any age. However, even though the marriage offer came from Muhammad's best friend, Abu Bakr (father of Ayesha), it was not accepted at that time. Another time when she was a few years older her father again offered his daughter in marriage to Muhammad pbuh and then it was left to Ayesha to make the decision.She glady accepted and this set the stage for a whole new way of thinking for men around the world.
786Maano 5 months ago
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@sanatandharam, again your going against your own scripture, prophet muhammed pbuh was clearly prophesised in your scriptures as being the last and final prophet and messenger, yet u still deny it, he's even mentioned by name, and yet u still deny.
How can u even compare gandi with prophet muhammed pbuh, gandi was nothing compared to him, nobody can be compared to prophet pbuh.
786Maano 5 months ago
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@ sandeep123kumar, once u die, u can never die again, so how does reincarnation even sound logical.
And another thing, u say idol worshipping is wrong yet so many of u sit there and worship a picture or a cow or elephant, isn't that a sin? It's clearly stated that it's wrong yet many of u idol worship. U have so many Hindu scriptures and many of them go against each other, if they were really gods words they would not go against each other like that.
786Maano 5 months ago
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@ sandeep123kumar, the theory of reincarnation was invented by Hindu scholars because they needed an explanation for why god could be so "in just". How can u even call god in just? That is absolutely wrong. When u Hindus see someone Is disabled, u straight away say oh they are only like that because they were bad in their previous life, what kind of a thing is that to say?
U need to understand god is not in just, and that this life is a test for the hereafter.
786Maano 5 months ago
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@ sandeep123kumar, we are tested in many ways. In the Quran it clearly says that If everyone single person gave zakat, poverty will be swept away from this world. Not very wealthy person gives to charity because they have the idea that if thy do, they themselves will become poor, and that is what Satan wants these people to think. So those who are very wealthy, it is all a test for them.Those who are poor who continue to have strong faith and belief In allah, Allah will make things easy for them
786Maano 5 months ago
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@ sandeep123kumar, exactly, u just called reincarnation a theory, and that's what it is, just a theory which is not right. Why do u think everything in life has to be easy? Just because someone is born disabled doesn't make them any less of a human then u are, everything in life is a test, u can't say god is in just because people are poor or some are rich or some are disabled, they are all being tested, it clearly says in the Quran that wealth and children will be a test.
786Maano 5 months ago
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@ sandeep123kumar, Allah clearly says once they want peace u have to give them peace, if u don't give them peace u instantly become a transgressor, a transgressor is someone who goes beyond the limits or boundaries, so allah says do not transgress as he dislikes the people that do that. Read the whole of chapter 2, Surah al baqarah.
786Maano 5 months ago
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@sandeep123kumar, no where in the Quran does it say kill all non Muslims, this is what it says in the Quran in chapter 2 verse 190, so type it into google, it clearly says
"Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.
Then in verse 192 it says " Sahih International
And if they cease, then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
So it says that if they attack u, u attack them back, but if they want peace u give them peace.
786Maano 5 months ago
sorry recarnation=reincarnation
sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
@786Maano Hinduism is a democracy you can see my dear friend satanandharam having a different view then me still we are in same sect called HInduism . I am from arya samaj probably he(satanandharam) believes in sanatan dharm, this is one point. Dear friend 786Maano we should discuss the thing what we believe you are free to comment on what I believe. but on those thing which I or Arya Samaz do not believe you can not comment at least for me.
sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
I believe in Arya Samaz and its literature you are free to comment on these. Swami dayand has expalained vedas ,these are there on Arya Samaz Jamngar website,if you do not find there then let me know. All upnisadas, dharsanas and other ancient literature support reincarnation. In arya samaz jamnagnar website in rigvedadibhayabhumika book by smami dayanand there is a chapter about recarnation .Please also see the mantras from Rig veda and vayurveda in this reference. link is not working here.
sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
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sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
But dear friend you have only said that Alla take test of the all the newly born souls but you have not given the answer why so injustice for a soul who has come out from womb of mother due to miscarriage of foetus. Why that soul is not given a single chance to prove himself/herself to follow the path on Alla? Alla gives prosperity to one soul in a prosperous family while the other soul is facing a cancer from birth
sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
@786 why my dear friend why? give the answer of this question? you will say that its Alla,s decision then I will say that your Alla is even less then an ordinary judge. Alla give good for one while bad for another without any past(newly born soul). But our god do not do any injustice to anyone whatever you will do in this life or did in the previous life you will get result either in this life or if it remains then in next life. So our theory is more logical.
sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
@786Maano If you have ecopy of your version of Quran then please send me the ecopy and then I will see whatever you are saying about Non Muslims are there in the Quran or not. By the way for me there is no muslim no Hindu but we all are just humans and there is one God who does not distinguish between Hindu Muslim Sikh Christian. The common set of principles which are good for every human is called DHARMA.
sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
@satanandharam, why would the Vedas mention life after death but not reincarnation? Because reincarnation is just a theory hindus came up with, it's not the truth, it clearly mentions life after death because its the truth about what happens when we die. If people are born poor, rich, disabled, this is all a test from Allah to see if our faith will still remain strong and will we still believe in Allah after all that's happened, Wealth is a massive test from god, many take it for granted.
786Maano 5 months ago
@satanandharam, your saying that Vedas has no mention of reincarnation as it was written before anything happened, so basically your saying that god sent down an incomplete book that didn't contain everything. Think about it yourself, why would god send down different incomplete version of books. The Vedas doesn't mention reincarnation because it is not the truth, it speaks clearly about the day of judgement and going heaven or hell, yet still u don't believe in judgement day?
786Maano 5 months ago
@satanandharam, fine your geeta might say to idol worship, but the Vedas which has been declared by Hindu scholars to be the ultimate word of god condemns idol worshipping or making pics yet u still do it. So what I'm saying is that your holy scriptures are contradicting each other. How can the word of god be different in one Hindu scripture a then another in a different Hindu scripture, it makes no sense at all.
786Maano 5 months ago
@satanandharam, no no u didn't offend me, u have these misconceptions of Islam which I'm trying to clear up, and obviously that can be done though debating. What I'm trying to explain is that I understand Hinduism and I understand the beliefs, nowhere in the scriptures does it say that you are allowed to worship idols, or u can male pictures of god to worship, so what I'm saying is how can u say it is ok to do so.
786Maano 5 months ago
If u believe in god u should know that he can do anything, muhammed pbuh was given the strength from almighty god to accept the revelations and write them down, whatever the prophets did they did by the will of Allah. Such as Jesus pbuh rising the dead, he did that by gods permission. First u said Ayesha peace be upon her was 9 now your saying she was 7, make up your mind and stop telling lies
786Maano 5 months ago
@786Maano i m not lying. he married ayesha at age 7 and had intercourse at age 9. mohammed was 54 at that time. this is a fact. you can check this. i just cant accept this fact as the man of god for this reason. to me god would not pick such a man. i dont have a problem with jesus so peace be upon him.
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
@SANATANDHARAM01 Oh! It's a fact! You stood by their bed and lit a lantern, like a eunuch in a harem!
Dr. Goebbels once said the more yuo repeat the lies the more people would believe you.
IvanKolosnik 5 months ago
@IvanKolosnik sad part is that it is true. its in your scriptures.
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
@SANATANDHARAM01 WHICH scriptures?
I was married at age 2 - that means I had a bond made by my parents that I would take a wife a certani girl (it did not happen) but my grandma kept saying I was married (I never touchd that girl or even saw after age 8).
If my grandma's words were "scriptured" I would be seen as have married an 8-moth girl, but the meaning of my grandma's word "married" was a bit different from standard - and how would I explani it to americans?
Out of Uzbek context?
IvanKolosnik 5 months ago
@sanatandharam, forget about the Wahhabis, shias Sunni, Allah clearly ,mentioned not to make sects, if they do then they will have to go face Allah. Yeah it is a shame that some muslims are so caught up in their sects that they forget what the Quran says, Allah will deal with them.
No nobody used force in the past to get people to convert, they had their battles yeah but that wasn't for forcing them to convert, I don't know where your getting this info from
786Maano 5 months ago
@786Maano mohammed used force to convert a lot of people. this is in its history. also look at the history of islamic rule in india. over 100o years of forcing people to convert through taxing and forceful ways. this was the case in india until people stood up and fought them out. just like the british.
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
@sanatandharam, that's your belief, your own book says god did not walk the earth but in fact it was the prophet, If u deny this statement in the Vedas it means u reject your scripture, simple as that.
And FYI people convert to Islam because it is the one and only truth, we don't have hundreds of books to follow like u do so that everyone gets confused and starts following different things, we have only one book and that's the Quran,
786Maano 5 months ago
@786Maano no where in the vedas it says i will not incarnate or send messengers. about islam is the only truth is really pushing it. how did prophet who could not read or write remember the whole quran? also why didnt god tell mohammed and not send gabrel in the moutains? why did mohammed marry aiyesh at age 7? do you think god would want him to do this.
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
@sanatandharam, again Im saying stop making stuff about Islam, no one can force someone to become a muslim, they are forced into becoming a Muslim they are not Muslim, it has to be done through choice, so get your facts right u ignorant person
786Maano 5 months ago
@786Maano i said islam had a history where they forced people to convert by force. i did not say this is happening today. there are other approaches that are taken that are not forceful so i agree with that. i am not sure if i agree with the approaches but they are not violent forceful.
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
@sanatandharam, no Islam keeps women safe and respects them, they are told to wear a veil for that reason, it clearly states in your religion that women should wear a veil but do any of u know that, u wanna pinpoint muslim women and they are oppresses even though every religions permits women to cover themselves
786Maano 5 months ago
@786Maano no i like the veil but not the burka. i think there are many social problems with muslims. i think wahabis preach hate into people which makes muslims to hate others. i wish that was not the case.
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
I don't follow the Vedas, I merely look into it to see the similarities between Islam and Hinduism. U say that god walked the earth, then why doesn't the Vedas mention that? It clearly says that rishies who were prophets were sent down. Im using your own religious scripture to go against what your saying. You Hindus hold importance of one Hindu holy scripture over the other, that's hypocritical, if they are really "the word of god" they shouldn't be ranked as which is moat important.
786Maano 5 months ago
@786Maano its not hypocritical at all. we believe that god is everywhere and in all living things. you just have to see god to realize the truth. how you realize the truth is not important. its karma that is important with us. the actions you perform in this life ultimately decides how and where you end up.
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
@786Maano thats simple, vedas were written before any incarnation actually took place. this is why there is no mention of lord krishna or lord ram in the vedas etc.... this is why the geeta and other scriptures are relevent. i know the guys who do comparison with islam and other religions but they only tell part of the story not the full story. if allah walked the earth as lord ram or krishna would you not worship him in those forms? of course you would. this is why we do to show devotion to god
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
I only follow the Quran as that is the true and only word of god, Quran has been sent to the whole of mankind, whether u choose to believe in it is your choice. One question, if u believe hinduism is the only way of life why aren't there many people converting to it? Yet u think Islam is a lie but it is tue worlds most fastest growing religion, people are becoming more and more aware of the truth.
786Maano 5 months ago
@786Maano its been a prophecy that false religion will rule the earth in kaliyuga (present time). this is in the vedas. i am sure you read this since you know hinduism and vedas so well. as to why people convert thats easy. many people have hard time understanding hinduism. lot of them hang around muslims who try to brain wash them by making them think that hinduism has more then 1 god. which is not the case. hinduism has 1 god that is transcended in many forms.
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
@786Maano people also convert to islam because it is a simple religion to follow. not much to it. it especially good for women who have been treated like lustful objects. they find it that islam is much fitting and respectful. in some ways it is but there is not equal treatment between man and women. i have to say that.
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
@786Maano other reason why islam is increasing is by large family size. this has been a big factor in the past 20 years world wide. multiply like ants. conversion through bribing and gifts etc... is also another reason. trying to go after people who are poor is also another way. muslims goal is to get as many converts as possible. hinduism doesnt have this like a business. we dont worry about convertsion because everyone is hindu and everyone fits in our belief system in some ways.
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
No the Vedas was not talking about Islam being a fake religion, that's just u assuming that because your ignorant. The Vedas was talking about man made religions that would be so into idol worshipping, which is actually sort of what your doing, your idol worshipping, your associating partners with god even thought he doesn't have any. Do us all a favour and read ALL your scriptures before trying to preach, I know your scriptures better then what u do.
786Maano 5 months ago
@786Maano so you know hinduism and you are writting about elephant head. you are not making much sense at all. look at what you are saying. if you think vedas is correct then do you follow the vedas/quran or both?
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
Maybe in your opinion the geeta is the highest of all but not in the eyes of many Hindu scholars, how do u expect people to follow Hinduism when there are so many contradictions in that religion and different Hindu scholars prefer different books, it makes no sense of all. For Muslims there is only the quan,one beautiful book which explains everything without contradictions.
And again the Vedas says that god did not come down to earth, but he sent rishies who were prophets to spread the message
786Maano 5 months ago
@786Maano this is what muslim believe so that the prophet concept makes sense. this is far from the truth. there is so much evidence in indian infrastructure about the fact that lord ram/krishna etc... all walked the earth.
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
@786Maano i dont rank one above the other. i do have a strong belief in geeta and ramayan.
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
@786Maano vedas were written at a very early stages before many of the incarnations. this is why there is significance of other scriptures that came later on.
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
@sanatandharam, this is what I mean when u say u have little knowledge of Hinduism, you don't even know what your own religious scripture says yet u wanna come here and insult Islam which u have no knowledge of. I'm not bashing your religion, I'm clearly saying what many Hindu scholars have said, that the Vedas is what u Hindus should follow, not the other scriptures. I have manners, I don't need to insult another religion like u do just to get my point across.
786Maano 5 months ago
@786Maano i knew you were going to mention the vedas but the geeta is considered the highest as it sums up all the scriptures and delivers the clear message that it is fine to worship god in form or non-form way. so worshipping god in the form when he walked earth only shows respect to the almighty. jai shree ram
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
@786Maano if we should only follow vedas then why have other scriptures. vedas were the original scriptures but god has come and walked the earth many times in his manly form to reveal more to mankind. this is why we have bhagvad geeta etc.... ramayan etc......
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
@786Maano i will answer any questions or misconception you may have on hinduism to prove my knowledge. bring it on. Jai Shree Ram
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
@sanatandharam, it clearly mentions in the Vedas and ragveda that this prophet will be the last, he will eat all lawful things, he will have a beard, he will preach what is right, he will get his revelation when he's in the mountain, he will migrate, which he did from Mecca to madina, and after all this evidence u Hindus still don't believe in him, even though he has been clearly described in your holy scriptures, so think about that Before u insult him like that.
786Maano 5 months ago
@786Maano it is also said in the vedas that there will be false religion and false god(allah) and many will follow religion in this kaliyuga.
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
@sanatandharam, I'm not bashing your religion I'm stating facts, what your saying about Islam is a lie, um trying to remove the misconceptions that u have. God is imageless so how can u say he has an elephant head just listen to how hypocritical u sound, u wanna sit there insulting prophet muhammed pbuh even though he is your prophet too, he was sent to the whole of humankind as a mercy. His name is in your holy scriptures yet u want to deny him. The Vedas talks about him
786Maano 5 months ago
@786Maano first of all you guys like to think he is in the vedas. he is not. zakir nyak and other have said he is considered as kalki which is not the case. he forgot to mention that kalki incarnation is far from today. also he translated the names from arabic meanings of mohameds parents names to match those of what will be the name of lord kalki. he jumps back and forth between arabic and sanskrit to fit his points across but kalki incarnation is dated far in the future. mohamed not in vedas.
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
@sanatandharam, your committing sin by doing that, no religious scripture says to make pictures put of god yet your doing the opposite. U need to go back to the vedas and learn what Hinduism teach, don't follow the manmade geeta, your own religious Hindu people have said not to follow it, so it looks like u have very little knowledge of your own religion, go read the Vedas for your own sake
786Maano 5 months ago
@786Maano once again. refer to the geeta and it clearly says the way of hindu worship is beautiful.
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
@sanatandharam, all I'm gonna say to u is go and read the Vedas, many Hindu scholars have said that is the most trustworthy and that all other Hindu scriptures besides Vedas should be rejected, this is what your people have said not me. The bhagvad geeta is not the word of god, it's manmade, this is what your Hindus say yet your still following he geeta. It clearly says in the Vedas, ragveda, upanishad that god has no idols, no pictures, no image, yet u still think it's ok to worship an elephant
786Maano 5 months ago
@786Maano word of geeta is word of god lord krishna. today many if not all hindus follow it. i dont know where you get these facts. i would say quran is manmade. how did mohammed write the quran if he could not read or write. did he remember the whole message when he was told by gabriel?
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
So basically your following hindu people theories, not god. U need to read up on your scriptures, especially the vedas as that is the most trustworthy
786Maano 5 months ago
@sanatandharam, yet after all this evidence some Hindus still believe in reincarnation, even though it I's clearly mentioned in the vedas which is the most holiest Hindu scripture that reincarnation is not what happens, it's a lie. Hindu scholars came up with the theory of reincarnation because they wanted to justify why god could be so unjust, even though the answer to that is that life is a test, Allah will test us to see that after everything we go through will we still believe in Allah
786Maano 5 months ago
@sanatandharam01, the Vedas rejects the idea of reincarnation, it clearly states that there is no cycle of life, that a person os born, then dies, born then dies, the vedas says non such thing exists, it says there is only one life that we get to do good, and however good we do in this life depends on whether or not u enter heaven or hell, and don't try denying that. The book rigveda gives a clear description of swark-heaven and nark-hell.
786Maano 5 months ago
@sandeep123kumar,The Vedas which hindus consider the most holiest and trustworthy scripture completely rejects the idea of reincarnation, yet u still believe it? Your contradicting what your own religious scripture says, the vedas says that this life is a test and based on your deeds u will either go hell ot heaven in the next life. Vedas is very similar to the quran.
786Maano 5 months ago
@786Maano it doesnt reject the idea of reincarnation at all. it just doesnt mention much about it. this is why at a later time lord krishna revealed us the bhagvad geeta. the geeta sums up all the holi scriptures and defines the path clearly.
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
@sandeep123kumar, islam does not say that u should kill non muslims, your taking everything out of context, allah says if your enemy is trying to attack u or kill u do not hesitate and attack them back, this is what any army officer will say to its soldiers, that do not be scared and attack them. If u read the bit after allah says that, he says if your enemy wants peace u give them peace, and also take them to a place of security where they will not be harmed, that is the religion of peace.
786Maano 5 months ago
"om sa no bandurjanita sai vidhata thamani ved bhuvnaniviswa"
"he manusyo , waha parmatma sab ko mitra ke jaise chahanewala sabka upkar kerne wala or sare visw ka swami hai"
sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
Om visvani dev savitar duritani prasuva yad badram a sua
" he buraiyon ko door kerne wale parmeswar , he bramand ko chalane wale ,palna kerne wale parmeswar mere sari buraiyo ko door ker dejeye or jo jo bhe kalyan kerne wala swabhav hai vo muzko prapt karaiye"
sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
Hinduism a sect where you find all sort of people. I believe in vedic religion and its believe in only one God no idol worshiping nothing. We believe that god is everywhere but not like that it is at "satva asman(7) or chutha asman(4)". If there is no incarnation then how god decide "which soul has to go to which species" without any past history. It will be injustice for a soul, one soul comes out when foetus died in the womb while other remains for 70 years in the body.
sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
if newly born(according to Islam) soul has been sent to a foetus who has cancer what is the fault of that newly born soul? that soul even has not given a single chance to prove whether it is against Alla or not. Is this is not injustice ? Does it is the justice of Islamic God. In this life we work for finite time and Islamic god put us for infinite time in hell or heaven. is this a justice? infinite punishment or reward for a finite work.
sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
ven an ordinary judge can not give punishment without prior reasons But Alla give punishment to some newly born souls and reward to other newly born souls without any prior reason. Alla permits to kill people who are nonmuslims( muslims are those who accept Islam). A non Muslim whether he/she is very nice person in behaviour help poor people also goes to hell. You show me one book of our Hindu culture whether it is a worse then worse where it is written kill non Hindus?
sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
I amazed some time when people say Islam is religion for peace. Show me where in Islam peace is there for non Muslims(one or two or very few sentences are there). I will show you where is the peace for everyone in our literature( Sarve bhavantu shukhina sharve santu nira maya) is there any mentioning for Hinus or Non Hindus in this and I will show you hundreds and hundreds of slokas many more. Where are the teaching for non Muslims in Islamic literature?
sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
Saudi Arabia is the country where government runs on Islamic principle. Only Muslims and Christians are allowed to have job there. You have to prove there that you are Muslim or Christian . I think Islam does not allow that non Muslim should he there in this world. Then how do I believe that Islam is a religion for peace. Islam want peace for Muslims only. I will welcome all the Muslims brothers who will show that Islam also says good things for Non Muslims.
sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
I agree that at many places there are sects in Hindu religion which have written books which are full of impossible tasks which Like "puranas,tantra granth". There are a lot of wrong traditions sati pratha, child marriage,bhoot pret, thousands of God,Idol worship. Many our ancient books by great scholars are corrupted by so called brahmans who even do not now what the knowledge is.
sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
I belong to vedic religion which do not believe in all the wrong tradition of hindus. For me god is one. It is every where. There is no idol of it. It have the highest power. It do full justice to everyone. For God humans are Human no Hindu no Muslim no Christian other wise Muslims will be having different blood groups organs ,genes then of Hindus and so on. God is every where also in our soul. It knows what bad and good we are doing with others irrespective of Hindu or Muslim.
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sandeep123kumar 5 months ago
@, look theres no need to disrespect Islam, your making filthy remarks about our beloved prophet muhammed pbuh and Allah SWT, there's no need for that, if u have a question just ask, don't make stuff up.
786Maano 5 months ago
@Amitkkusan, Islam has been there since the beginning of time, since man stepped foot on earth. A Muslim is someone who submits their will to Allah, and that's what all the prophets did, all the prophets, Moses, Abraham, Jesus, Adam e.t.c were all Muslims, they were not Jews or Christians, they were Muslims. You think that Islam is a new religion when it clearly is not, it's been there since the beginning of time.
786Maano 5 months ago
@Sanatandharam01, u cannot call yourself a Hindu if u believe that it is ok to worship god through a statue, your religion, along with every other religion condemns it, but still there are people out there like u who still go and do it, it's a major sin. Your basically saying that this statue is worthy of worship and your putting it at the same level of god, your idol worshipping which is a major sin. I respect your religion, but your completely doing the opposite of what your religion says.
786Maano 5 months ago
@786Maano it is clearly stated in the bhagvad geeta that it is fine to worship god in a form or non-form. most if not all hindus today prefer this method of worship. there is nothing wrong with this approach at all. to worship god in the form when he walked the earth is only showing respect to his existence. check the geeta.
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
@Sanatandharam01, this life is merely a test, the real life is in the hereafter, people either spend eternity in hell or spend eternity in heaven, u don't get a choice to keep coming back reincarnated until the person becomes good, u only have one chance to be good and please Allah
786Maano 5 months ago
@786Maano i am good and i good to all mankind. this is what my religion says. i dont need to be brainwashed into thinking that i am going to burn in hell. i know that performing good actions god will reword me. this is why my god teaches me. your god will burn everyone who dont read and follow the quran. i am sorry but i cant imagine god being that cruel humanity. god is loving and understanding. he also doesnt want all his children fighting in his name. Jai Shree Ram
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
@Sanatandharam01, u Hindus believe in reincarnation, think about it yourself for a minute, this life is a test, we have been given free will and our own mind to judge between right and wrong, it's our job to find the truth and follow it till the end. Yet Hindus believe that if a person dies they will be reincarnated again and again until they become good people, you tell me how does that sound logical? It is stated clearly that once someone dies he cannot die again.You have one chance to do good
786Maano 5 months ago
@786Maano it makes complete sense. think about it. if we only come once then we spend most of the time in the grave yard according to you. according to us god allows us to be reborn and discover the truth and until we do we suffer on this earth. this makes complete sense. day of judgement makes no sense at all.
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
@Sanatandharam01, no Muslim can force a non Muslim to convert, before the non Muslim is about to convert they are asked whether they are doing this out of their free will or by force, if they say by force the Muslims cannot revert them. Non Muslims cannot make a testimony of faith by force, they have to believe themselves that it's the right thing to do, not because someones forcing them. please don't sit there making stuff up about Islam.
786Maano 5 months ago
@786Maano check your history. i think missed a few things.
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
@Sanatandharam01, how dare u worship an animal and say your worshipping god. Yor contradicting yourself and going against your own scripture, your scripture clearly says to not make pictures or idols out of god, yet u Hindus are doing the exact opposite, don't comment on another religion when u don't even know your own properly. And please don't make stuff up about our beloved prophet muhammed pbuh.
786Maano 5 months ago
@786Maano first of all we worship god not animals. secondly learn a little about hinduism before you start making stuff up. in the geeta bhagvad geeta that is, it is stated that we can worship god in any form or non form way. it all goes to one all mighty god. about your prophet please check at what age he married ayesha. he was 54 and she was 7. explain that to me.
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago
@Sanatandharam01, your saying that u want Muslims to respect other religions yet your not respecting Islam, your a hypocrite. U show me one verse in the Hindu scripture where god says that it is ok for u to make idols,pictures or sculptures out of me, he does NOT say that, that's what your pandits or whoever started to do. Your saying that it's ok to worship an elephant because you wanna be closer to god and make it feel more real, your insulting god by doing that.
786Maano 5 months ago
@786Maano how do you expect me to answer when you bash my religion first. you want me to sit back and take it. its not going to happen. even at best i have not bashed your religion i have only stated the facts. as i said the geeta clearly states it is fine to worship god in form or non-form way. worshiping lord ganesh is praying for wisdom and knowledge. you should understand the story behind how he received the head of the elephant. his head is a symbolic reminder of a son obeying his mother.
SANATANDHARAM01 5 months ago