Having carefully compared the different religions of present to the historical Hebrew Scripture, which is not religious in its natural content and form, it is my considered conclusion that all the exact historical and other scientifically-documentation that corroborates the Original Hebrew Scripture defies all religions, to prove their claims, or fall silent, leaving ONLY Hebrew Scripture where it always has been, the solitary source of Truth.
You can't simply brush over centuries of philosophical discourse in 15 minutes, regarding the question of the existence of god. The speaker totally ignored the fact that in quantum mechanics, things DO happen at random.
I see why you disabled ratings. All this does is use the same lame arguments Christians use to defend their god. Endless logical errors and a grade school understanding of science. Don't waist your time.
@solidwolf66 Yes something can come from nothing just do a quick google search of quantum physics and the Heisenberg principle. That is what people like this do they know most people wont take the time to research this type of question for them selves and prey on that fact. QUIT listening to idiots and just learn how the world really works for your self.
@NEGATIONofP Sorry for double-response, I meant to add this in to the first one...
As complicated as a heart is, you don't know what's in the hearts of people. How do you truly, know he disabled ratings because of "lame repeated arguments"?
@solidwolf66 I watched the hole thing and all his arguments are the same as Christian apologists. Even the questions from the audience and his reactions are the same. The reason he disabled ratings is most people who view the first 5 minutes of this would give it a thumbs DOWN. I just hope people will start to see how ALL religions are basically the same load of lies and superstitious garbage.
@NEGATIONofP And of course he should disable ratings... what use do they have anyway? Obviously the non-muslim subscribers are going to thumb it down because of their bias whether or not the points were good and the Muslim ones will thumb it up. Just watch the debate and forget about such petty things as how many people liked or disliked this video...
@TheRampod This is exactly what I am try to point out you want me some unknown person to answer a question about cutting edge science. You don't know know me so why would you trust anything I say? I may be anything from a Nobel Prize winning scientist to a high school dropout. Why don't you do the research for yourself? Start with abiogenesis. By the way it has NOTHIG to do with cosmology or evolution. The posting dealt with creation of the universe so I am not sure why you are changing topics.
@NEGATIONofP We're debating the existence of God and your belief is that God doesn't exist. This all comes in a bundle which means that if you believe God didn't create the universe then you also believe God didn't create life so no, it's not changing topics since we're still debating God's existence.
@TheRampod First look up false dichotomy. I don't have to accept any conditions you or anyone sets for their justification of god. This type of black or white statement just confirms how religion trains (brainwashes) you into a ridged and noncritical thought process. I know many people who believe in a god wile still believing in some or all of the conditions you stated above. Finally I am not the one making outlandish claims therefore I do not have the burden of proof. YOU DO!!!!!
@TheRampod First look up false dichotomy. I don't have to accept any conditions you or anyone sets for their justification of god. This type of black or white statement just confirms how religion trains (brainwashes) you into a ridged and noncritical thought process. I know many people who believe in a god wile still believing in some or all of the conditions you stated above. I am not the one making outlandish claims so I do not have the burden of proof. YOU DO! See: philosophic burden of proof
@NEGATIONofP If you want proof I can easily give you proof for the existence of God and in fact there is more proof FOR the existence of God then there is against, and I'll get to that in a bit. Also, I was not talking about those that believe in God while also believing in evolution or other theories, what I was talking about was YOU since you clearly do not believe in God so therefore you won't believe in creationism in all its aspects.
@TheRampod I would LOVE to see you evidence. I have been investigating this claim for over 20 years now & have found NO empirical evidence in fact I have seen only spotty textural references that were written over 100 years ago by a bunch of goat herders not the intellectuals that I referred to earlier. Why will your god not provide just one piece of evidence of his existence? The only people who believe in him must "interrupt" scripture in order to FORCE it to fit reality.
@NEGATIONofP As for evidence the Quran is bursting from the seams with evidence for Allah (God in the Arabic language) so its actually hard to start. Here's something to explain existence of God rationally: /watch?v=sKBeBIYIkbE (by the way he is a really smart guy, Hamza Tzortis, watch his other debates) and as for the Quran here is a good one /watch?v=C-pYCf4MBwo (just try to ignore the accent :P) And as for Al Ghazali I think you are mistaken, just google him and see.
@NEGATIONofP As for evidence the Quran is bursting from the seams with evidence for Allah (God in the Arabic language) so its actually hard to start. Here's something to explain existence of God rationally: watch?v=sKBeBIYIkbE (by the way he is a really smart guy, Hamza Tzortis, watch his other debates) and as for the Quran here is a good one watch?v=C-pYCf4MBwo (just try to ignore the accent :P) And as for Al Ghazali I think you are mistaken, just google him and see.
@NEGATIONofP There is definitely more to say but the character restriction is getting really annoying lol. Also I recommend you read the book: Evolution Deceit by Harun Yahya and read it. I did my own research about evolution and about God and that is why I am a believer in God. Not because I was forced to believe in God and not because I was raised to believe in God but because I used logic and reason to prove the existence in God rather than blindly following the crowd.
@NEGATIONofP By the way I do do research myself because contrary to popular belief, religious people can also be scientists or students. I do take courses about evolution but there is far more evidence against it which is evidence for God. Back to the origin of the universe, I don't know why you mentioned the Heisenberg Principle which really has nothing to do with the origin of the universe and as for quantum physics, what part of it are you talking about that disproves the existence of God?
@TheRampod If you do research I am quite sure you are not using peer reviewed data. If your "evidence" is derived from religious text and or non-verified data then its quite easy to see why you think this way. As for the Heisenberg reference solidwolf66 asked and I quote "Can something come from nothing?" Again look it up to see the connection. As for disproving the existence of something that question in its self is a logical fallacy. Yet again LOOK UP Russell's teapot.
@NEGATIONofP As I said before just because someone is religious does not mean they are not scientists or men of understanding. In fact, the first textbook of medicine, numerical numbering, surgery were all invented by Muslim men hundreds of years before the west. Since was thriving in Muslim lands while Europe was in the dark ages.
@NEGATIONofP Muslim philosophers debated with atheists long before any such discussion was allowed in the West so you telling me that I have a rigid thought process is unjustifiable and uncalled for as Islam calls for humans to understand the world around and not just believe blindly.
@TheRampod You are correct Arabic scholars were the pride of the world foe centuries in fact Bagdad was the center of the intellectual world. That is until the Islamic religion and al-ghazali got in power then ALL progress has been halted for over 1000 years now. Explain that little fact will you.
@NEGATIONofP lol what are you talking about? Al Ghazali never came into power and no the contributions Muslims made to society lasted up to the fall of Al Andalus in 1492. I admit, after that the Muslims have become weaker and there aren't as many Muslim scholars and thinkers but the religion back then is the same as the religion now so the problem is not with Islam, its with the people these days.
@TheRampod You might want to fact check your statement. al-ghazali was arguably the primary reason for the decline of intellectual scholarship and some believe one of the primary contributors to the extremest sharia law followers in the middle east over the last 1000 years by declaring that mathematics was the work and a tool of Satan. Therefor basically bringing science to a standstill by outlawing it in the middle ages. Why do I seem to know your history better than a "believer"? LOL indeed
@NEGATIONofP Also, I don't know for sure, but it seems that are afraid to take on the idea of the origin of life because every time I bring that up, you shy away from it. The theory of evolution is a proof for the existence of God because it has already been disproved my science. How? Well Darwin states it himself in his book, Origin of Species: “Why, if species have descended from other species by insensibly fine gradations, do we not everywhere see innumerable transitional forms.”
@TheRampod I am not shying away from the topic I just feel as I stated earlier YOU need to find the evidence for your self. The best teachers force students to think for themselves not parrot the instructors beliefs. With that said one of the most compelling articles (scientifically published and reviewed) is " abiogenic synthesis of prebiological compounds in volcanic processes" by Podkletnov and Markhinin
@NEGATIONofP There is more to say but the character restriction is getting really annoying lol. Also I recommend you look at this: harunyahya[dot]com/evolution_specialpreface.php and read it. I did my own research about evolution and about God and that is why I am a believer in God. Not because I was forced to believe in God and not because I was raised to believe in God but because I used logic and reason to prove the existence in God rather than blindly following the crowd.
Having carefully compared the different religions of present to the historical Hebrew Scripture, which is not religious in its natural content and form, it is my considered conclusion that all the exact historical and other scientifically-documentation that corroborates the Original Hebrew Scripture defies all religions, to prove their claims, or fall silent, leaving ONLY Hebrew Scripture where it always has been, the solitary source of Truth.
claudius2u 1 month ago
You can't simply brush over centuries of philosophical discourse in 15 minutes, regarding the question of the existence of god. The speaker totally ignored the fact that in quantum mechanics, things DO happen at random.
Lucroq 5 months ago
I see why you disabled ratings. All this does is use the same lame arguments Christians use to defend their god. Endless logical errors and a grade school understanding of science. Don't waist your time.
NEGATIONofP 5 months ago
@NEGATIONofP I'm interested in watching this later, but I still skimmed the comments.
I'm only wondering why judge so quickly? Can something come from nothing?
solidwolf66 5 months ago
@solidwolf66 Yes something can come from nothing just do a quick google search of quantum physics and the Heisenberg principle. That is what people like this do they know most people wont take the time to research this type of question for them selves and prey on that fact. QUIT listening to idiots and just learn how the world really works for your self.
NEGATIONofP 5 months ago
@NEGATIONofP Why not use logic?
solidwolf66 5 months ago
@solidwolf66 Thats a great question. I don't understand why they don't use logic either.
NEGATIONofP 5 months ago
@NEGATIONofP Sorry for double-response, I meant to add this in to the first one...
As complicated as a heart is, you don't know what's in the hearts of people. How do you truly, know he disabled ratings because of "lame repeated arguments"?
solidwolf66 5 months ago
@solidwolf66 I watched the hole thing and all his arguments are the same as Christian apologists. Even the questions from the audience and his reactions are the same. The reason he disabled ratings is most people who view the first 5 minutes of this would give it a thumbs DOWN. I just hope people will start to see how ALL religions are basically the same load of lies and superstitious garbage.
NEGATIONofP 5 months ago
@NEGATIONofP Very narrow-minded....but I don't mean that in an insulting way~
solidwolf66 5 months ago
@solidwolf66 Yes I agree they are and I do mean that in an insulting way.
NEGATIONofP 5 months ago
@NEGATIONofP Do you really think it's hate like this that'll make us humans improve?
solidwolf66 5 months ago
@solidwolf66 No I don't that is why I comment on hate filled bigotry like this video.
NEGATIONofP 5 months ago
@NEGATIONofP And of course he should disable ratings... what use do they have anyway? Obviously the non-muslim subscribers are going to thumb it down because of their bias whether or not the points were good and the Muslim ones will thumb it up. Just watch the debate and forget about such petty things as how many people liked or disliked this video...
TheRampod 5 months ago
@NEGATIONofP Ok then give me your best explanation using your "science" on the origin of life and we'll see how scientific it really is.
TheRampod 5 months ago
@TheRampod This is exactly what I am try to point out you want me some unknown person to answer a question about cutting edge science. You don't know know me so why would you trust anything I say? I may be anything from a Nobel Prize winning scientist to a high school dropout. Why don't you do the research for yourself? Start with abiogenesis. By the way it has NOTHIG to do with cosmology or evolution. The posting dealt with creation of the universe so I am not sure why you are changing topics.
NEGATIONofP 5 months ago
@NEGATIONofP We're debating the existence of God and your belief is that God doesn't exist. This all comes in a bundle which means that if you believe God didn't create the universe then you also believe God didn't create life so no, it's not changing topics since we're still debating God's existence.
TheRampod 5 months ago
@TheRampod First look up false dichotomy. I don't have to accept any conditions you or anyone sets for their justification of god. This type of black or white statement just confirms how religion trains (brainwashes) you into a ridged and noncritical thought process. I know many people who believe in a god wile still believing in some or all of the conditions you stated above. Finally I am not the one making outlandish claims therefore I do not have the burden of proof. YOU DO!!!!!
NEGATIONofP 5 months ago
@TheRampod First look up false dichotomy. I don't have to accept any conditions you or anyone sets for their justification of god. This type of black or white statement just confirms how religion trains (brainwashes) you into a ridged and noncritical thought process. I know many people who believe in a god wile still believing in some or all of the conditions you stated above. I am not the one making outlandish claims so I do not have the burden of proof. YOU DO! See: philosophic burden of proof
NEGATIONofP 5 months ago
@NEGATIONofP If you want proof I can easily give you proof for the existence of God and in fact there is more proof FOR the existence of God then there is against, and I'll get to that in a bit. Also, I was not talking about those that believe in God while also believing in evolution or other theories, what I was talking about was YOU since you clearly do not believe in God so therefore you won't believe in creationism in all its aspects.
TheRampod 5 months ago
@TheRampod I would LOVE to see you evidence. I have been investigating this claim for over 20 years now & have found NO empirical evidence in fact I have seen only spotty textural references that were written over 100 years ago by a bunch of goat herders not the intellectuals that I referred to earlier. Why will your god not provide just one piece of evidence of his existence? The only people who believe in him must "interrupt" scripture in order to FORCE it to fit reality.
NEGATIONofP 5 months ago
@NEGATIONofP As for evidence the Quran is bursting from the seams with evidence for Allah (God in the Arabic language) so its actually hard to start. Here's something to explain existence of God rationally: /watch?v=sKBeBIYIkbE (by the way he is a really smart guy, Hamza Tzortis, watch his other debates) and as for the Quran here is a good one /watch?v=C-pYCf4MBwo (just try to ignore the accent :P) And as for Al Ghazali I think you are mistaken, just google him and see.
TheRampod 5 months ago
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@NEGATIONofP As for evidence the Quran is bursting from the seams with evidence for Allah (God in the Arabic language) so its actually hard to start. Here's something to explain existence of God rationally: watch?v=sKBeBIYIkbE (by the way he is a really smart guy, Hamza Tzortis, watch his other debates) and as for the Quran here is a good one watch?v=C-pYCf4MBwo (just try to ignore the accent :P) And as for Al Ghazali I think you are mistaken, just google him and see.
TheRampod 5 months ago
@NEGATIONofP There is definitely more to say but the character restriction is getting really annoying lol. Also I recommend you read the book: Evolution Deceit by Harun Yahya and read it. I did my own research about evolution and about God and that is why I am a believer in God. Not because I was forced to believe in God and not because I was raised to believe in God but because I used logic and reason to prove the existence in God rather than blindly following the crowd.
TheRampod 5 months ago
@NEGATIONofP By the way I do do research myself because contrary to popular belief, religious people can also be scientists or students. I do take courses about evolution but there is far more evidence against it which is evidence for God. Back to the origin of the universe, I don't know why you mentioned the Heisenberg Principle which really has nothing to do with the origin of the universe and as for quantum physics, what part of it are you talking about that disproves the existence of God?
TheRampod 5 months ago
@TheRampod If you do research I am quite sure you are not using peer reviewed data. If your "evidence" is derived from religious text and or non-verified data then its quite easy to see why you think this way. As for the Heisenberg reference solidwolf66 asked and I quote "Can something come from nothing?" Again look it up to see the connection. As for disproving the existence of something that question in its self is a logical fallacy. Yet again LOOK UP Russell's teapot.
NEGATIONofP 5 months ago
@NEGATIONofP As I said before just because someone is religious does not mean they are not scientists or men of understanding. In fact, the first textbook of medicine, numerical numbering, surgery were all invented by Muslim men hundreds of years before the west. Since was thriving in Muslim lands while Europe was in the dark ages.
TheRampod 5 months ago
@NEGATIONofP Muslim philosophers debated with atheists long before any such discussion was allowed in the West so you telling me that I have a rigid thought process is unjustifiable and uncalled for as Islam calls for humans to understand the world around and not just believe blindly.
TheRampod 5 months ago
@TheRampod You are correct Arabic scholars were the pride of the world foe centuries in fact Bagdad was the center of the intellectual world. That is until the Islamic religion and al-ghazali got in power then ALL progress has been halted for over 1000 years now. Explain that little fact will you.
NEGATIONofP 5 months ago
@NEGATIONofP lol what are you talking about? Al Ghazali never came into power and no the contributions Muslims made to society lasted up to the fall of Al Andalus in 1492. I admit, after that the Muslims have become weaker and there aren't as many Muslim scholars and thinkers but the religion back then is the same as the religion now so the problem is not with Islam, its with the people these days.
TheRampod 5 months ago
@TheRampod You might want to fact check your statement. al-ghazali was arguably the primary reason for the decline of intellectual scholarship and some believe one of the primary contributors to the extremest sharia law followers in the middle east over the last 1000 years by declaring that mathematics was the work and a tool of Satan. Therefor basically bringing science to a standstill by outlawing it in the middle ages. Why do I seem to know your history better than a "believer"? LOL indeed
NEGATIONofP 5 months ago
@NEGATIONofP BTW we're having a friendly conversation, no need to be so aggressive :)
TheRampod 5 months ago
@TheRampod Agressive? Sorry if I came across that way that was not my intent.
NEGATIONofP 5 months ago
@NEGATIONofP Also, I don't know for sure, but it seems that are afraid to take on the idea of the origin of life because every time I bring that up, you shy away from it. The theory of evolution is a proof for the existence of God because it has already been disproved my science. How? Well Darwin states it himself in his book, Origin of Species: “Why, if species have descended from other species by insensibly fine gradations, do we not everywhere see innumerable transitional forms.”
TheRampod 5 months ago
@TheRampod I am not shying away from the topic I just feel as I stated earlier YOU need to find the evidence for your self. The best teachers force students to think for themselves not parrot the instructors beliefs. With that said one of the most compelling articles (scientifically published and reviewed) is " abiogenic synthesis of prebiological compounds in volcanic processes" by Podkletnov and Markhinin
NEGATIONofP 5 months ago
@NEGATIONofP There is more to say but the character restriction is getting really annoying lol. Also I recommend you look at this: harunyahya[dot]com/evolution_specialpreface.php and read it. I did my own research about evolution and about God and that is why I am a believer in God. Not because I was forced to believe in God and not because I was raised to believe in God but because I used logic and reason to prove the existence in God rather than blindly following the crowd.
TheRampod 5 months ago
I bear witness that NO God but ALLAH ... and I bear witness that Muhammad is his servant and messenger ...
God bless you brothers for the valuable lecture and may give Abdullah Andalusi all best rewards for his efforts ...
extra222love 5 months ago