well in the music world, any pedal, stomp box of effect we use with our instrument people think its cheating, cuz lets face it some ppl can pull off certain things without a little help, but i dont find it cheating, i find it helps make all of us musicians different, like for instance on drums i (unlike many i know) love the wuhan china cymbal, i dont know why but i love it, and i also love techniques with pedals, and yes i want a dualist haha
ANYONE WHO SAYS THAT IT'S A CHEATER IS DEAD WRONG. THE DUALIST COULD HELP THOSE WHO CAN'T KEEP A STEADY BEAT ON TRADITIONAL DOUBLE BASS PEDALS. ALSO PEOPLE WHO SAY THAT TRIPLE PEDAL IS EVEN STUPIDER ARE JUST IDIOTS BECAUSE IT'S JUST LIKE USING A REGULAR DOUBLE PEDAL YOUR USING BOTH FEET BUT YOU JUST HAVE AN EXTRA BEAT IN YOUR PLAYING. IT'S NOT CHEATING IT'S SMART
If you mention "cheating" here, you are a complete idiot. It is guaranteed that you use your < $99 double kick to bump slopped out 1/16th notes to your favorite breakdown tight-pants hair-sweep indie metal band songs that consistantly involve squirrel vocals. This is mastery, and the concepts are WAY out of the box. Great job Dany
I'm not a dualist user but I'd much rather have a bunch of real drummers playing these "cheater" pedals, than the drum machines we have all over the radio now.
This is the 1st respectable use of a dualist that ive seen because its the only example where something is played that cant be played on a regular single pedal. That extra beat you get coming off the pedal gives you time to hit another instrument pedal. Thats nearly impossible with a standard pedal.
I wouldn't call it cheating, I think the dualist is harder to use to play complex double bass beats having to always switch back and fro from single to double seems like a pain. So it requires a diff. type of skill. It's ok to play basic gallops and straight 16ths but to switch from various seems a lot hard with the dualist.
It's funny how people refer to this as cheating; what if this, as a single pedal (with two beaters), was invented before (or instead of) the double-kick pedal. I can imagine once someone invented a double-kick pedal after something like this had been the norm, people would be saying that double-kick pedal assemblies would be useless or impractical, if not cheating in some way.
Its not cheating!!! all its doin is making a new way to play double bass drumming and giving you more options!! I mean i owned a DW 9000 series double pedal and i hated setting it up everytime to play and sometimes wouldnt feel right.........this has really helped me and gives my left foot some hi-hat action so all these pple who say its "cheating" go buy one or test one out and see how it is!!!
well then are people who use double bass pedals posers? why dont they just suck it up and learn heal toe or some other method of acheiving speed on a single bass pedal?
Thank you, Dr. Morbid! So many of these "BPM'ers" are such clones.......doing what's already been done and never striking out on their own to do something new and diverse. I adore my Duallist triple and wouldn't give it up for a million dollars. All you haters out there, save your welfare checks and actually BUY a Duallist, and you'll see what all the fuss is about. Until then, SHADDAP!
You are not learning nothing.. Of course this dude playing has learned to do it with regular pedals first and then on the dualist.. I just don't see what you learn by cheating your self out of really learning it
These are the kind of unique things you can do with the Duallist, that people can't seem to get through their head. It's all "cheating" to them, but to hell with it I say.
Exactly. Those are people who only think in bpm. They can't even imagine that double pedal has any other use that rapid-fast single stroke rolls. So they probably can't comprehend the usage not even when it is shown right in fron of their eyes (like in this video).
"Double bass is only for high BPM right? What else could you do? ... SO THIS MUST BE CHEATING!"
The first 3 patterns he plays with his right foot are pretty easy done with a normal (single) pedal.
I also have seen vids (virgil donati comes to mind) where he plays 3 notes with one foot ( with the same speed as in this vid) so I rest my case that this is still being lazy...
@Pandorastoolbox I didn't say they were impossible, I said it's unique that you can maneuver your foot in this way to get these patterns, it's certainly less effort, but since when has pure skill dictated what is good music and what isn't? Music =/= Competition
@lordofultima its not that people really see the pedal it self as cheating so much as wanna be drummers getting this with the thought in their head that they are the next Tim Yeung when in fact they don't even have a grasp of the fundamentals.
if heel toe is not a technique.. so what is it?? a dog? XD .
karitonmassacre 3 months ago
what happens if you do heel toe?........
mcrfreako1011 5 months ago 4
you can`t cheat in music..
robyo97 5 months ago
@d00dthatslegit the type of equipment you use does not determine whether or not you are a poser. The actual drumming does that.
guitarboyemk 6 months ago
nobody need that shit
derDennO 6 months ago 2
Great video...glad I purchased one. Of course it's not cheating. That's why many pro drummers use it.
Sabrason 7 months ago
Great video...glad I purchased one.
Sabrason 7 months ago
this is really cool
SuperGilbs 7 months ago
thats not how you sit in a chair!
ramonbunny69 8 months ago
@d00dthatslegit Let's see it then yo.
Reilloc13 11 months ago 3
There's a fine line between laziness and innovation. This is cool!:D
GTRockero 11 months ago
well in the music world, any pedal, stomp box of effect we use with our instrument people think its cheating, cuz lets face it some ppl can pull off certain things without a little help, but i dont find it cheating, i find it helps make all of us musicians different, like for instance on drums i (unlike many i know) love the wuhan china cymbal, i dont know why but i love it, and i also love techniques with pedals, and yes i want a dualist haha
Doyled90 11 months ago
ITS LIKE NORMAL DRUMMING BUT WITH GODMODE HACKS
Baldodeathmetal 1 year ago
pedal fetish?
niggereggs 1 year ago
hola , no podrias poner un video con la regulacion de los tornillos de la plancha y de los resortes gracias
kukucita07 1 year ago
ANYONE WHO SAYS THAT IT'S A CHEATER IS DEAD WRONG. THE DUALIST COULD HELP THOSE WHO CAN'T KEEP A STEADY BEAT ON TRADITIONAL DOUBLE BASS PEDALS. ALSO PEOPLE WHO SAY THAT TRIPLE PEDAL IS EVEN STUPIDER ARE JUST IDIOTS BECAUSE IT'S JUST LIKE USING A REGULAR DOUBLE PEDAL YOUR USING BOTH FEET BUT YOU JUST HAVE AN EXTRA BEAT IN YOUR PLAYING. IT'S NOT CHEATING IT'S SMART
brdane 1 year ago
@brdane hello! you are very right!.......i .m thinking to buy a duallist pedal ....i like the features and what you can make with the pedal...
MRmesmetin 11 months ago
What about the Hands Asshole!! what are you gonna do with them Jerk Off!!??
MrHouseofdrums 1 year ago
@MrHouseofdrums how is he an asshole. Calm down.
astrella 1 year ago
If you mention "cheating" here, you are a complete idiot. It is guaranteed that you use your < $99 double kick to bump slopped out 1/16th notes to your favorite breakdown tight-pants hair-sweep indie metal band songs that consistantly involve squirrel vocals. This is mastery, and the concepts are WAY out of the box. Great job Dany
fromhereon 1 year ago
i hate you
magajelly 1 year ago
id buy it for fun but i couldnt take myself seriously at a gig
doc998 1 year ago
are duallists for cheaters???????
vinnypapa63 1 year ago
@vinnypapa63 You could not do this with these pedals, how is it cheating?
Gratch2222 1 year ago
@Gratch2222 When you use a single pedal it does a double hit...
vinnypapa63 10 months ago
i like the idea just i dont understand how it works..
AndyPFTW 1 year ago
Cool now his hands are free for him to jack himself (or someone else) off with, every drummers dream.
Its not cheating, its lame.
generatrix999 1 year ago
Some really creative ideas there.
Flaheat 1 year ago
I'm not a dualist user but I'd much rather have a bunch of real drummers playing these "cheater" pedals, than the drum machines we have all over the radio now.
DSCRAPRE 1 year ago
real men can have a whole band with their feet, and have the excess with their hands
chokingoninsanity 1 year ago
this is not cheating...if u think about it...its still a double pedal
amahd16 1 year ago
im buying a double bass kit and two dualist pedals so i can have quad bass lmao
SgtCrazy128 1 year ago
very kool
zozarbuddies111 1 year ago
Why everybody call this cheating thats SO STUPID
adaaaan 1 year ago
@adaaaan Some people can't deal with progress, lol ...
Anarchist48 1 year ago
@Anarchist48 Hahahaha sure (:
adaaaan 1 year ago
i like the pedal..i hate picture slideshows
Kephiroth 1 year ago
you're a bad mother fucker
lainesmith 1 year ago
2-3 clave! Nice!
callook66 1 year ago
amagine 2 bass drums and 2 dualist pedals!
smattman22 2 years ago
@smattman22 check out guido wyss, he uses 2 sonor giant step pedals, amazingly fast. be aware of haters tho
kickdrum100 2 years ago
thats be like a quad pedle... itd be seeeeeck
Bobswana22 2 years ago
So, now you can loose your arms in an accident, and still be a drummer.
nandoanalog 2 years ago 4
Rick Allen!!! lol
ransisua 2 years ago
This is the 1st respectable use of a dualist that ive seen because its the only example where something is played that cant be played on a regular single pedal. That extra beat you get coming off the pedal gives you time to hit another instrument pedal. Thats nearly impossible with a standard pedal.
Dreammotive 2 years ago
are you really that bored? damn u need a gf sir!
emanfelix 2 years ago
you should get out more
SDMF6661 2 years ago
it just seem boring playing with your feet like that.
SnowboardA51 2 years ago
I wouldn't call it cheating, I think the dualist is harder to use to play complex double bass beats having to always switch back and fro from single to double seems like a pain. So it requires a diff. type of skill. It's ok to play basic gallops and straight 16ths but to switch from various seems a lot hard with the dualist.
I personally play a normal double pedal.
Shreedhan 2 years ago
i play alot of blues and jazz and fine its a nice touch but when i played hardcore stuff it got very ifficult but i say go foe it its a great pedal
dumadave10 2 years ago
cool - cause i dont feel like using my hands to drum
slapmefive 2 years ago 6
lol you cracked me up dude good point!!!
mojosamurai 2 years ago
It's funny how people refer to this as cheating; what if this, as a single pedal (with two beaters), was invented before (or instead of) the double-kick pedal. I can imagine once someone invented a double-kick pedal after something like this had been the norm, people would be saying that double-kick pedal assemblies would be useless or impractical, if not cheating in some way.
TheWALOS 2 years ago 4
Its not cheating!!! all its doin is making a new way to play double bass drumming and giving you more options!! I mean i owned a DW 9000 series double pedal and i hated setting it up everytime to play and sometimes wouldnt feel right.........this has really helped me and gives my left foot some hi-hat action so all these pple who say its "cheating" go buy one or test one out and see how it is!!!
STakaCLUTCH 2 years ago
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real drummers don't t use the dualist! it takes away the fun. where's the challenge? its for posers.
toastdrums 2 years ago
well then are people who use double bass pedals posers? why dont they just suck it up and learn heal toe or some other method of acheiving speed on a single bass pedal?
mirrastyle4524 2 years ago
some actually argue that heel-toe is cheating.
just goes to show how arrogant some people can be.
silendt 2 years ago
your a poser.. all it is is a way to explore more options on the drum set so people can reach new levels of acheivment..
joeymilleralcadeas 2 years ago
Thank you, Dr. Morbid! So many of these "BPM'ers" are such clones.......doing what's already been done and never striking out on their own to do something new and diverse. I adore my Duallist triple and wouldn't give it up for a million dollars. All you haters out there, save your welfare checks and actually BUY a Duallist, and you'll see what all the fuss is about. Until then, SHADDAP!
tomcatyyz 2 years ago
any relation to chino moreno haha
AustinLaiho 3 years ago
You are not learning nothing.. Of course this dude playing has learned to do it with regular pedals first and then on the dualist.. I just don't see what you learn by cheating your self out of really learning it
JUBALAKNE 3 years ago 2
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your wrong lol stop posting hahah
bookick 3 years ago
im considering buying some of these cause my feet hurt very easily when i play alot of double bass stuff
dcidrumfi 3 years ago 2
look at your technique id say
plopenstien 2 years ago
These are the kind of unique things you can do with the Duallist, that people can't seem to get through their head. It's all "cheating" to them, but to hell with it I say.
lordofultima 3 years ago 31
Some people can't accept Diversity.
riomariucci 3 years ago 33
ya no kidding i hate when peopl call it "cheating" really they just don get it. good point
bookick 3 years ago 5
Exactly. Those are people who only think in bpm. They can't even imagine that double pedal has any other use that rapid-fast single stroke rolls. So they probably can't comprehend the usage not even when it is shown right in fron of their eyes (like in this video).
"Double bass is only for high BPM right? What else could you do? ... SO THIS MUST BE CHEATING!"
So stupid.
DrMorbid 3 years ago 3
@lordofultima
Lol,
The first 3 patterns he plays with his right foot are pretty easy done with a normal (single) pedal.
I also have seen vids (virgil donati comes to mind) where he plays 3 notes with one foot ( with the same speed as in this vid) so I rest my case that this is still being lazy...
Pandorastoolbox 1 year ago
@Pandorastoolbox I didn't say they were impossible, I said it's unique that you can maneuver your foot in this way to get these patterns, it's certainly less effort, but since when has pure skill dictated what is good music and what isn't? Music =/= Competition
lordofultima 1 year ago
@lordofultima its not that people really see the pedal it self as cheating so much as wanna be drummers getting this with the thought in their head that they are the next Tim Yeung when in fact they don't even have a grasp of the fundamentals.
munkeefork69 1 year ago