TalkBack w/ Wajahat Khan & LK Advani Ep29 Pt2

[go2guy1212]

Great Man!

[sushanalone]

extremists sound so similar across the spectrum.BTW he didnt answer the Godhra Riots question, he dodged it by using another party that mishandled a communal situation.

[forestinfullbloom]

Advani for PM.

Long live BJP. Long live Hindutva.

[MrSatyanveshi]

Advani is the man who instigate hatred against Muslims, then instigates Hindus to demolish the Babri Masjid. Then he goes to Pakistan and speaks highly of Jinnah and how secular Jinnah was. Both Indians and Pakistanis should recognize such bastards who create a religious hate and divides between Hindus and Muslims.

[same270]

advani is mother fucker basterd so modi .

[errolmiranda]

It will only be a fool who chooses Shariat Law over Democracy!

Look at Iran, Muslims took over the country and they forced Shariat Law. What a pity .

Many Iranians are in India now for the freedom they get. The rest are in other countries forming Ex muslim councils.

First they loved their religion until they realised if a country is full of Muslims there can never be anything but the Shariat Law.

[ahmeds027]

@errolmiranda I am sure you know bout democracy some stuff coz that is taught in school, but clearly u have no clue about what sharia is and trust me iran for a real longtime has only been with the muslims

Sharia considers life, property, honor sacred and so their are tough laws to protect these things without which a society cant be secure since we all want our loved onces to be their, our property intact and are women n daughters never messed with :)

salam

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - yeah rite! Do you even now how the iranian women despise the shariat law and those terrorists.Go to england and us and find out about ex muslims groups u will know and see.contrary to ur or anyones belief there are loads of muslims converting to other religions as well.Dekh yaar tu jaa ab paka mat muje.Itna fundamentalist banane ka man hai to kisi aur ko suna.Chal nikal ab ! bahut ho gaya.respect diya to kaan me mat moot tu. Pakis ki gand to me marooga for sure. You cannot stop me.

[ahmeds027]

@errolmiranda oh so sharia is bad and the ex muslims are right ? and the iranian women are right offcourse , and i am wrong and so are 1.5 million others who adhere to the fate, knowing islam or ignorant of it like most indians ? their is something in u that u always are right bro, thats why ur the Greatest

loads of muslims converting to other religion? Readers Digest Almanac 4 Yearbook 1983 says islam has grown 235 percente in the last 40 years, but if u are claiming it u should be right

[ahmeds027]

@ahmeds027 next i want to give u the final word and u can give ur best reply and i wont reply to it from here on, for arguing is haram in islam, specially when not to spread the religion of islam :)

take care and have a wonderful life

peace and blessing

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - And my last word to you, I can love the PEOPLE of Islam depending on how good they are. I love people.. ANd the reason I love Indian Muslims is because the people in general are tolerant towards others cultures and religions.

however, the people of Pakistan are NOT tolerant towards others religions in general. Their country was built on the HATE India policy. Their voting is based on leaders WHO SHOW THEY HATE INDIA and then get votes.

That DOES NOT happen in India.

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 And just because I am respectful towards you, does not mean I have to like your religion. I may like you and may respect you as an Indian muslim and god knows I love my muslim cousins as well. But I do not like the invasive Islam and although I have been open to even doing namaz in the past with my family and friends, coming to england makes me realise, that MOST muslims are not like Indian Muslims and secular.

[ahmeds027]

@errolmiranda :)

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 ;)

[ahmeds027]

firstly muslims did is still not proven n if they did it shame on them, n still one cant justify mass murder of muslim n some hindu for that , it was a crime n had to be dealt like one not by government giving a license for the rioters to let loose n kill each other n he just justified that huh :(

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - please do understand that muslim population lives mainly in peace in the indian country... with the two religions being poles apart there is bound to be conflicts sometimes. besides we cannot point fingers to pakistan because they have destroyed and systematically FINISHED all the hindus in their country. so the chance to saying look what you do to the hindus does not arise.

Pakistan has already finished hindus there.

[ahmeds027]

@errolmiranda muslims in india live in peace ??? why are u telling this to an indian muslim ? do u know me, better then i know myself ?

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - well pardon me if your indian.... but i would like to ask you as an indian .... where in india do you come from .... and do you really think the hindus stangle your freedom in india ?

and honestly if this was pakistan , do u think hindus wud enjoy as much freedom as muslims do in india?

id really like to know since i only see muslims on this forum shredding the indian image. i have enough muslim relatives to know what i speak about .. but i wud like to hear ur perspective as well

[ahmeds027]

@errolmiranda i come from andhra pradesh, no i dont think they tangle as much as the pakistanis do, but their is no denying being a minority, their are some setbacks like not calling to account those who did mass murder for the Gurjrat riots et al

no hindus in pakistan suffer and i urge pakistanis to work to make their life better their, they are their nations and have as much right as they do on the state

oh alright, well u did get my opinon now i guess :)

salam

[ahmeds027]

@errolmiranda brother if it helps i want to say sorry for Pakistan though i have nothing to do with that nation but u have a huge pakistan hangover for some reason, what they did is wrong and period dont min bad politics with people, religion and truth

[ahmeds027]

@errolmiranda brother if it helps i want to say sorry for Pakistan though i have nothing to do with that nation but u have a huge pakistan hangover for some reason, what they did is wrong and period dont min bad politics with people, religion and truth

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - its easy to say muslims is still not proven... history states that hindus never start a fight. if the muslims who first came to hindustan and not killed hindus , married their women, made fun of their religion , broke down their temples etc. perhaps the hindus would not have an immense dislike to your religion .

It all started from there ! everything else came later. after that who started what is not the point but the origin needs to be pointed out to first!

[ahmeds027]

@errolmiranda we should use history to prove the point in the court too, so true

[errolmiranda]

Firstly sarcasm takes one no where!I am the son of a Kashmiri pundit whose family was driven away, my mum is a goan catholic, my sister is married to a wonderful Indian muslim, my mums sister is married to a muslim man and I have muslims cousins. My brother is soon to be wed to a liberal minded muslim girl. Contrary to your belief hindus are extra tolerant to muslims when religion is not rubbed in their faces.

If an open minded muslim does not rub things into a hindus face, hindus respect them.

[errolmiranda]

By law I am aware you canot use history as a marker. Bu ttha is the reason democratic nations hdont say much. zIts not that they dont have such notions in their mind as well with the influx and increasing tensions of immifgrant muslims from pakistan and sudan and other africna territories into their land. they are not unawre of the dangers of extremist islam lovers/

[ahmeds027]

@errolmiranda good man, Allah says in the Quran "170. When it is said to them: "Follow what Allah has sent down." They say: "Nay! We shall follow what we found our fathers following." (Would they do that!) Even though their fathers did not understand anything nor were they guided?"

so i invite you to the religion of islam and apologise for any kind of assumed sarcasm from my side, i was only repeating ur point :)

salam peace

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - Oh please shut up ! i dont want to hear what anyone said in what book ! I dont need your nonsense preaching.... How about me teaching you the Bible or the Bhagavad Gita... Will you listen ??? NO >????

Then dont expect me to listen to this nonsense. I respect Muslims if they dont force or try to influence me with their religion.. And muslims in India are peace loving and cause no ruckus unlike you guys out ther ein Pakistan.

[ahmeds027]

@errolmiranda i would want to listen what u have to say about both Bhagavad Gita and Bible, please continue to respect muslims, even when they preach their religion coz that is a major part of their religion ie to do good and call others to good :)

lol , i am a indian and a proud one, and about the ruckus i aint got no clue whatsoever

peace

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - If your an indian and a muslim .... I have noting against you ..... :)

Actually I have too many muslims in my family to hate them.. What I cant stand is the anti india behaviour which obviously indian muslims dont have. So I guess .... peace :)

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 -

See what I do believe is that you and I as individuals cannot agree on everything. There are things you wont like about others religion and there are things I wont like of yours. But as long as Indians we manage to strike a balance and keep these aside its fine.

Does not make me pro Islam or you Pro hindu , but it certainly makes us supporters of GOOD PEOPLeI think thats a very fair compromise. which indians manage to fo happily and im glad!

[ahmeds027]

@errolmiranda i am with u in supporting good people :)

[ahmeds027]

@errolmiranda wheather u like it or not, i as indian have the right to practice preach and follow my religion and i am doing just that, if u dont like it then well dont take it seriously thinking oh he is just practising his constituional rights :)

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - yup agreed! as an indian you definitely have your rights to practise and follow your religion.. preach. well as long as its not bothering me personally I have no rights to bother about what you do. so thats fine too.

I guess I also have the right to preach christianity and hinduism to my friends ;. and no im not bothered about islam..or any religion ... indians are not aggressive be it muslim or hindu.. so im fine with whatever they want to do.

My grievance is with pakis!

[ahmeds027]

@errolmiranda true, since the law isnt restricted to muslims alone, u very well can i guess, mine is not just with pakistan but any unjust rule that is prejudiced

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - And ahmed All I am saying is , you may not know me but make impressions about me from what I write and type on here.

Although I can never be muslim I can respect u. I will never convert from the freedom my pundit conservative father and my christian mother have given me to follow and practise ANY religion I wish to, I love life this way too much.

[ahmeds027]

@errolmiranda if u convert, i have no benefits weather u revert or u dont, but if u do it would be good for u, since islam is the truth :) salam

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - I would also love to see you convert to christianity and hinduism my friend.... it will be great for you too. as it will give you peace of mind... islam may be a great religion but no one has been able to follow it well.

Hinduism and Christianity , nothing more of a peace of mind than that too. Ciao ! :)

[ahmeds027]

@errolmiranda i am glad u said that, do u want me to worship stones/idols that can neither benefit / nor harm me or do u want me to worship a god who has sons and is tired and sleeps after hard labor ????

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - Its simple , dont rub or preach yours to me and I wont mine to you.... Simple ? Preach to those who wish to listen. Else I will rub mine in your face as well.

Lets call it a truce here, and move our seperate ways.

[ahmeds027]

@errolmiranda alright then u be my witness, that i told u and u cared nt , and i will continue to bow my will to god and be a muslim :)

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - alright and u be mine, that i told u and u cared nt, and i will continue to bow to my will and likes unless your fabulous islamic revolution takes over the whole world. I guess that is going to make you ecstatic.

But when it does we shall see . Take care for now!

[ahmeds027]

@errolmiranda like i have told u,i have nothing to gain or loss weather u like what i say or u dont, all u are saying is just reacting 2 me n not analyzing what i say if i sam islam u say the other two religions practiced in india, if i say be my witness,u say the same, alright if that makes u happy i will gladly be ur witness n reject ur claim very humbly and have no malice 4 u brother,I also want to say that u have official won this argument by coming back strongly eachtime n i think ur better

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - The only reason I even respond to you politely is because your INdian... But you are outright annoying my friend.... I am sure you dont have too many friends in india either.

And Islam is something I will reject for ever . I can respect the people from it but its a religion I look upto with utter disdain .

Guess what I have the choice and freedom to choose any religion and none if i dont wish to. And I totally reject Islam for its marketing antics

[ahmeds027]

@errolmiranda i am so glad u were polite, so if my grandparents moved to pakistan in 47 u wouldnt have any respect left for me i guess? thats how , should u judge people brother ?

you look at islam with disdain, since u dont understand it and have only heart a crazy media version of it, so I want to quote Albert Einstein here who said : "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance", investigatihere doesnt mean what u hear in media trust me media

well its a missionary religion

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - dont play mind games with me please ! The whole of the gandoo pakistan talks nasty about india and its hindus..

If you think I am mother teresa or mahatma gandhi to shut the fuck up and be quiet You ARE WRONG !

My Paki friends will get a Stone for a wound, and a JAW for a tooth ! Simple as that!

If you were in Pakistan , you wouldnt even think pro india... its about HOW YOU are brought up!

And sorry I have investigated enough . I have my opinion and you have yours !

[ahmeds027]

@errolmiranda a gandoo person remains that, shift in nationalities dont help it

Mother Teresa and Gandhiji both havent done anything so wrong that we cant live up to their standard? if u think i am wrong, well i should be since u are saying it

u are generalising an entire nation meeting a very crazy physcos u met online right ?

Well may be i wouldnt think like i do today, but my physcology is only a result of understand islam and the understanding came coz i learn to read my indian schools

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - And I have lived with too many pakistanis and they NEVER fail to tell me HOW a Chrisitan / hindu woman converted to Islam with pride. But when I point out how there have been people who have converted from Islam to Catholicism or even some into Hindus, they immediately get aggressive and say SHE MUST BE A WHORE and WANTS THAT FREEDOM. Or bcause SHE NEVER GOT TO DRINK in our religion . or OH HE MUST BE GAY SO he CONVERTED.

Those are comments from a sick mind.

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - But saying that on the whole, they have been good to me and are good people.....

But its amazing isnt it ?? If they say Khuda ke liye yaar this or that I respect that... but iff by even mistake I say Bhagwan ke liye ...... they start cringing their faces... This is the outcome of living in a mono religious community.

Tolerance to other peoples religion is so low and this is why Indian muslims are able to live more secular because they are tolerant to others.

[ahmeds027]

@errolmiranda yes, altogether lot better, they did wrong turning into a different nation, today they are suffering a great deal cz, a akand bharat would have been really cool, with a voice for muslims and their rightly taken careof islam encourages tolerance to other religion, but it remains that we as muslims should constantly call , non muslims to the religion of truth that islam is, and tell them wheather u believe or dont, atleast we bow to gods/khuda/Allahs will and call ourselves muslim

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - My friend if islam encourages spread of it through peaceful means then no one in Pakistan, Sudan and other parts of the muslim world can be called muslim because the simple fact is that they use violence to convert people Look at Sudan where christians are being killed if they do not agree to turn muslimAnd in Pakistan most of the hindus have been systematically killed or have converted to save their lives. And since its not a democracy, even the media hides such information.

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - This sort of ethnic cleansing does NOT happen in India. We do not forcefully convert muslims into hindus and vice versa. Of course there are incidents that happen at times considering the extreme polarity of the two religions but in a country of 1.2 billion or a 120 billion that cannot be completely stopped.

As far as I know , the muslims in India are tolerant and this is because they are definitely better educated than Pakis who dont have a brain but only have a dick.

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - See as far as what you believe in terms of islam about calling non muslims towards your religion is your point of view. I as an individual do not agree with this. Thats what I am saying.. As Indians , and as people of varying religions, we agree to disagree but we are not forcing religion down each others throats now are we?

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - I just had a indian kashmiri muslim friend come over and my pakistani roommate started the conversation about kashmir and how he should support them.He reacted in a befitting manner," Sure Kashmir is a seperate country from both India and pakistan. But for India to give its part up, you pakis need to give up urs firstl. And ask china to first return aksai chin , your prized gift to them". it was funny as he just said it out of his own will.

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - And Honestly speaking I NEVER knew such hatred before I came to the UK. It seems to be more rampant here than in India itself. No one speaks anti hindu anti muslim there as much as they do here.

ANd I like to keep the peace with my Pakistani housemates. They are nice to me but this constant conversation about borders is exactly why I started visiting these videos to research the situation.

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - Funnily on the good side, I go out with these guys watch movies with them have fun with them but at the end of it , suddenly the topic will pop up.

Thats whats making me so bitter about the pakistani ideology and giving me a dual personality. On one side I love these guys and know when I need them they stand up for me. On the other hand, they are mentally harrassing me with all these talks but dont realise they are doing just that.

[errolmiranda]

I again will repeat this and you will know this if you are well researched. India is more secular towards muslims than any muslim country No muslim country in this world allows muslims of all kinds to practise their religion they way they want to Not the sunnis in Pakistan who suppress the shias,not the iranians who suppress the sunnis etc.

If so much is being given to indian muslims, and there is a slight imbalance in equality Im not saying its right but its not all that imperfect either.

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 If there are any muslims who scream and cry about inequality in india especially the ones who are not sunnis, try living in pakistan... and see the hell you go through not only because of the prophets you follow, but also by the fact you will always be known as a mojahir....

i would like to see pakistan have the guts to give their hindus and sikhs healthy positions in big sectors like the way india does for the muslims. That will never happen.

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - if india was so hellbent on reducing muslim numbers, you think the population of muslims would have increased the way it has since partition ?

But the hindu numbers, sikh numbers and NOW the christian numbers are reducing like no body's business.

A muslim in india may be least educated but the ones who are go getters have the freedom to make it and be successful. There are no such rights for minorities in pakistan.

I hope you agree. 

[errolmiranda]

@ahmeds027 - And yes you are right, India is NOT a saint when it comes to its minorities, but when compared to pakistan or any other islamic state, we are bloddy well MOTHER TERESA!

Trussme the muslims of india could never be in a better place when it comes to their safety and well being unless they want to move to other secular european countries where chances of self growth is higher become of the exchange rate. similar for the hindus or christians as well

[ahmeds027]

@errolmiranda I am really sorry on behalf of pakistan bro, like i said get over that the world is full of crap, but that doesnt mean, people or humans turn bad or u can blame an entire nation for a bunch of admin champs / terror groups, and thats why Jingoism is bad, be a patriot, pay ur taxes, serve ur nation, care for indians and if need be die for it

do u know i pray for all indians in my dua? after praying for muslim ummah coz i care, for their is no other worldly benefit i get :)

[ahmeds027]

u say muslims of india can never be as safe, fine as here, i n my sister now live in USA, we find this place purely interms of partiality, a lot better then india, in india we may have felt prejudiced, but here never ever :)

[Rohit84up]

Advani ji you are embarrassing us all by statement. The only thing common among the rioits in recent india has only one thing in common: Hindus..... roits in gujrat 2002 (hindu-muslim), Babri masjid 1992( hindu-muslim) , and 1984 roits (hindu-Sikhs).

[lotiq]

@Rohit84up 1984 massacre was secular congress & muslims vs sikhs. Even a hindu-hating khuswant singh grudgingly thanked RSS/BJP as the only organistation that tried to protect sikhs. This is the reason why a weak bjp leader like madanlal khurana always got sikh votes for 20 years after the riots.

[errolmiranda]

@Rohit84up - Correction Muslim is the common point..... gujarat riots - muslims ransacked hindus in a train and killed several leading to an outlash.

babri masjid - it is common knowldge when the muslims first came to india... they purposely made a masjid on the hindu sacred place of ayodhya and rubbed it in hindus faces..... obviously its on peoples minds... wouldnt it be ?a hindu congress party wnated to save the MUSLIMS from the wrath of the extermist sikhs leading to gandhis death.

-

[hashpuppy101]

this interviewer is daft.almost has a paralysis in his brain and cant think. hes obviously ill - informed and un imaginative.

[elecsal]

The burning of train was due to technical reasons or has been planned my Modi and team. How do u come to know that its muslims hand with in 12 hrs of the burning of a train and riots started right after that......Babri Masjid got demolished in front of whole country..we know the people..police know who did it and sitll the culprits are enjoying and no action has been taken against them ,do you think our investigation is faster or slower depending on Hindu's side

[errolmiranda]

@elecsal - My friend .. do you even know the history of Babri masjid.. It was built at the time when the mughal raj was on . And the reason they did build it there was because they were aware the hindus worshipped the area as the birth place of Ram . When the muslims first came to india, they were intolerant and left no chance to irritate the hindus and the temple was built right on the spot around the areas of the hindus worship place to spite them and this was rubbed in their faces always.

[errolmiranda]

@elecsal Obviously it has been on the mind of hindus. Still the way it was taken up , that is the demolition I will say THAT IT WAS WRONG.An alltogether talk and consensus should have been arrived at at the time.

But please dont validate what earlier generation mughals did and blame hindus for everything and fyi, I am not a practising hindu. I have even done namaz with my cousins. I am willing to keep an open mind but origins of problems should also be shown.I pray to Jesus like my mum does.

[itsnaanee]

Excellent Point regd 1984 riots.Thats absolutely true.Media is main culprit for this.Media will talk about only Godhra why they r not talking about 1984 riots.

[errolmiranda]

@itsnaanee - 1984 rights... its a pity how Muslims point out to hindus fault here!

A predominantly hindu party leader Indira Gandhi wanted to SAVE THE INDIAN MUSLIMS LIVES from extremist Sikh people, and therefore had military enter their gurudwara.

If you did not follow religion , and just thought what was right or wrong, then you would realise that her move was very logical. However, the sikhs did not take well to it. and this ended with her assasination and hindus anger.

[errolmiranda]

@errolmiranda - Pakistanis are really nasty Muslim people. Always creating tension.

Why cant you just be nice people like the Muslims of India. The ones educated in India are a true symbol of Indian cultural integration and peace. They live with everyone here without any ruckus. There will always be a little bit of tension because of hte difference in religions being so much.

If India was intolerant, there would be no muslims left just like there are almost no hindus left in pakistan.

[errolmiranda]

@errolmiranda - The Indian muslims are as much indian as the hindus or christians or sikhs or jews or the indian iranians, indian nepalese , indian chinese etc. are Please remember that! We love them as much as they love us. There will always be a subconscious tension But atleast we put these aside and live in harmony most of the time. If we were that bad , Muslims would never have a chance of doing well bt Muslims who work hard to get what they want get it in India.

Not the case in Pakistan.

[shahjee273]

@errolmiranda Organistaion like RRS, Shiv Sena, Hindutva, Ballthakeray, Balrajdal, Nirender Modi Openly operate in India ,Carry out Killings of Minorities, No Hindu ever punished for the crime and terrorism. U say India is better than than Pakistan.....UR brainless....."OFF CORUSE U cannot be TERRORIST CUZ UR NOT A MUSLIM"

[errolmiranda]

@shahjee273 - Firstly dont talk about killing minorities.... PLEASE! You guys have no rights to talk about minorities... You have FINISHED all the HINDUS , SIKHS and whenever possible persecute the Christians on the name of Blasphemy.. Your country is purely islamic....

In India, the population of Muslims is bigger than your country... So you should be the last person talking about our problems...

[shahjee273]

@errolmiranda UR killing Kashmiris muslim since 1947.Muslim Killings in Gujrat.Sikh Killing in Golden Temple.Sikh Killings 1984.Demolition of Babri Masjid followed by muslims killings in all over India especially in Mumbai.Killings of christian in Orisa.Raping of Dalit young girls is a national sports for upper class Hindus. U ppls.R so insensitive to this kind of atrasocites inflecting on Minorities on continueing bases.U think,they should not complain as if this is expected in a Hindu INDIA.

[errolmiranda]

@shahjee273 - UR killing Hindus in Pakistan since FOREVER ! Hindu Killings in every part of your Pakistan, forced conversions of Hindus to becoming Muslims.

Sikhs being killed everywhere in Pakistan in the name of ISLAM . The Sikhs of Pakistan especially from NWFP have been begging for REFUGE in INDIA and INDIAN CITIZENSHIP.

Christians of Pakistan have been killed in the ALL CHRISTIAN AREAS under the idea of BLASPHEMY. SHAME !

[errolmiranda]

@shahjee273 -What bal thackeray says may be extreme but there is no ethnic cleansing happening.. Sure .. they want muslims to move out.. but there is not such a movement to kill ALL the muslims in india llike you guys have done with the Hindus and Sikhs in Pakistan.. Your population of Hindus is now 0.02 per cent when during partition it was 10 per cent. what a fucking shame you guys behave like.

On your tv channels you OPENLY call hindus kafirs and they should be converted or die! SHAME

[shahjee273]

@errolmiranda Forced Convertion is not allowed in Islam.Its Sin.Before 1947 Punjab was a Muslim Majority State.Muslims were more than 50% in Indian Punjab.What happen to that Majority.Ethenics Cleansing was done ,so that to make a way ,to invade Kashmir ,the first day of the independence of Pakistan. U ppls. R used to committing atrocities as this is UR Birthright. Now time has changed, but Hindu Mindset has not Changed. Jinnah , find Hindu Mindset in1920s and left the Congress party.

[errolmiranda]

@shahjee273 - Welll Firstly , you GOT LAHORE in PUNJAB , so another part was left for the Sikhs and Hindus.

Secondly, it was the MUSLIMS who began the rioting in punjab /.... if that hadnt happened perhaps there would NEVER be such a loss... If you attack you think everyone will be quiet to your pakistani atrocities ?

NO ~

[errolmiranda]

@shahjee273 - Hindus have time and again proved that even if they are in majority they DO NOT ETHNICALLY CLEANSE minorities out of the country ...

WHY DONT YOU IN PAKISTAN PROVE THE SAME ? Why is the population of Hindu, Sikhs and Christians REDUCING like the way it is although the Islamic population is constantly in creasing ?

Please ! If you really want to ask ANY Country if they prefer Indians or Pakistanis, they will definitely say Indians who are peaceful ,and NOT Pakistan .

[errolmiranda]

@shahjee273 - Its a sin ? But it happens... Look at Sudan .. I live with Pakistanis who are open minded and good people.. But they cannot see what the Muslims are doing to the Christians in Sudan.. They say WHY CANT THEY LIVE PEACEFULLY ..

Well thats because the MUSLIMS never let anyone live peacefully when they are in majority. NEVER !

Then they start demanding azadi where ever they are . Look at the problems they make in UK ! if your blind you wont realise this.

[errolmiranda]

@shahjee273 - Look at US. They smartly realised what is happenign and stopped Muslim visas. Most muslims cannot go there now unless they have family.

Except the Indian Muslims who seem to get entry there even today.. Thats only because US realises that INdia has too much of secularism and living with some many religions all the religions including the Muslims have become secular minded.

But no thanks to some muslim extremists in india as well that this trend is on the decline as well.

[errolmiranda]

Hindus are given NO CHANCE at all in Pakistan. During partition there were ten per cent hindus now there is ONE PER CENT ???? WHY ?????

And the ones who are still Hindus and are not converted are nothing more than brick workers and servants. How good of Pakistan ?

[shahjee273]

@errolmiranda UR totally Brainwashed by UR media and extremist Hindu organisations.There was Cheif Justice of supreme Court of Pakistan was a hindu.Danish Keneria member of Pakistan Cricket team is hindu.Pakistan Fashion designer is hindu.Some biggest Land owner in Sind R Hindus.Hindu in Pakistan Foregin Service.Chairman Pakistan Public Service Commission is hindu..Kafir is arabic word.Its meaning is NON BELIEVER in MUSLIM FAITH.So anyone who does not believe in Muslim Faith can be called Kafir.

[errolmiranda]

@shahjee273 - Kafir the more appropriate word is INFIDEL .. And taht word is MORE IRRITATING TO ANY COMMUNITY.

You should not even OPEN your MOUTH ... THe COUNTRY THAT HAS ETHNICALLY CLEANSED THE WHOLE OF PAKISTAN . TOday there is only 0.02 per cent Hindu and Sikh Population from 10 to 12 per cent in 1947.YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ETHNIC CLEANSING ? JOKE!

Muslim population in INdia is increasing still. You should not even open your mouth about ethnic cleansing Please.

[shahjee273]

@errolmiranda ....Even B4 1947 Assam, Bengal, Punjab, Kashmir Majority Muslim Population Areas Hindu Congress Took as whole or partially HOOK OR BY CROOK and that how Undia End up with more Muslims than Pakistan.IF Hindu Congress strict to the agreement of Partition than India would not than 3% Muslim population.Than we would have been good neighbours, not spending lot of money on Defence, instead spend money on ppls. welfare.

[errolmiranda]

@shahjee273 - so you are tryin to say that for a population of muslims which wz almost 1/3 rd of the hindu population u were sposed to have more than HALF of indian territory?what are u on?drugs?If the religion of Islam had come into India more peacefully wen it arrived and hadnt destroyed temples and made fun of hindus,perhaps hindus would have been more tolerant?After british raj u think hindus wud giv muslims that much power to go back to the same condition they livd in during mughal empire?

[htgajjar]

Muslims burnt a train in GOHDRA 2002 which killed many Hindu children, women, and men which started Gujarat riots.