@Lyric1235 Mestizos in puerto rico don't exist, your country is full of whites. look at puerto ricos wikipedia page. 75% of puerto rico is mostly of spanish decent.
I have no desire to be tested at this time due to the fact that I was privileged to learn about my great-great grandparents who were indigenous traditional people.I had met my great-grandparents when I was a teenager and hold tons of stories about our indigenous ways. I was blessed to know this and I am the one in my family that is carrying the traditions in an open way to educate others. DNA will only confirm what I know so I rather spend my money on other things.
I was one of the Taino that were interviewed. I am honored and blessed to have learn from my family (prior to DNA technology) that I am indigenous. Granted, many thought it was not a good idea to come public with it but now I see why. The comments by many are truly prejudice in nature. I am who I am and i cannot change it. Sorry folks for those that differ. Old taino Adage: "The trees in the forest may look different but the roots all look the same." Long live the Taino!
Why does it have to be the "screw whitey"? The fact remains that whether one likes it or not the people of PuertoRico are mostly "whitey" from their father side and so far the results show about 61% amerindian through the mother (mytochondrial) side. African is there in percentages through both mother and father DNA due to the fact that both male and female slaves came to the island. A small % female European DNA shows also.
But I guess these facts do not stop morons from making stupid sounds
@TheTainoWarrior most puerto ricans are mixed, european blood is mainly in their veins and DNA. You can keep your taino culture alive but you must take pride in your other roots too.
No one says pure Taino bloods ok we all aware we r mixed with Taino natives in our bloods, word extinction define? Means wiped out with everything including culture,foods such as casabi bread,Taino words even dna leave with nothing but unfortunately they didn't wipe Taino ppl out well enough by raped native women,escapes n hide in cave n such .....basically we r mixed natives with Europeans or Africans or all 3 races depend where they came from within areas......so with natives in our bloods....
Narraganset people intermixed with whites and blacks (sadly). But they are a federally recognized tribe, right? So, stop talking about Taino extinction. You will never be the actual "Caribbeans" At least in my opinion, you stealers.
62% of PR population have Amerindian DNA. Almost 20,000 persons on the island identify as Amerindian. These are descendants of Tainos who survived into the 1800 hundreds in Anasco and San German las Indieras. Today many Persons of PR. are at least 1/4 Amerindian.
TRUE TRUE!.Too many people getting into the "I am Indian" thing because somehow it is cool now. HOWEVER! there are those just as ignorant that get into the "nobody is Indian" WHY? Because they believe in the outdated dogma that "the Tainos were all exterminated by the Spaniards. PROBLEM? Today we have DNA testing. No matter what your theory is DNA IS the ONLY definite evidence. So far male DNA (Y) testing shows the majority of Puerto Rican fathers were Spanish. BUT 61% of the mothers show Indian
Many "chiefs" of government recognized "tribes", such as Chad Smith of the Cherokee, are "mixed bloods", so what's really the issue with so-called Latinos reclaiming thier indigenous identity? Could it be that with the concept of "being wiped" comes the notion that there are no witnesses to the crimes of imperialism? Wiped out? Where are the mass graves? Hmmmm.
Intersting how no one seems to have a problem with identifying a "jewish" ancestor and reclaiming their supposed birthright as one of "God's chosen", but if someone does it with indigenous ancestry, it's laughable. I do agree that many Borikuas ignore their apparent African ancestry, yet in the same breath, if a light skinned Borikua did assert their "Africaness" they'd still be laughed at. The real issue is overcoming conditioning of eurocentrism & white supremacy.
FTDNA<<<< Family Tree DNA has a DNA test that will indicate without a doubt which DNA (thus real and conclusive) IF you are indeed of Amerindian ancestry...The rest is either trash talk . Those that claim to be Taino must first get the test and then make the claim. The indigenous haplogroups are very well identified. So far about 61% of the people of Puerto Rico tested show Amerindian DNA through the mother side (this is called MTDNA or Mytocondrial DNA) .The Father side is mostly From Spain.
@dnr71345 Aunque yo no he tenido la dicha que usted tienes en tener una rica historia familiar, yo tuve que emplear el examen de el dna. Respeto su posicion en no elegir el examen de el dna. Saludos.
The Tianos are alive!!!!!!!!! How the hell can u even say they dont exist! I am living proof and I practice what I preach. My family came from Utuado Puerto Rico telling me all of the stories! Even about the spainard invading. Dont ever say they dont exist when you dont know! Shame on you. I have the stories of proof.
Why do so many people seem to want the Taino dead so badly... they do look in part indigenous, and i bet they recognized that they're mixed but in this video they're showing this side of their culture and race. There's no denying that there are still tons of people who have Taino blood in their veins and it's definitely in our culture, but why do you want us dead so badly? They're just asserting their race that people have been making look extinct for so long just how you're trying to do now.
Hoy en dia hay mas tainos en los caserios del Bronx que JAMAS existieron en el Caribe ENTERO...ese "hecho" lo dice todo de estos "expertos" Tainos...
Ojala, aprenderan que pa' ser "Taino" uno tiene que tener mas que pelo planchao, una cartera de Gucci y botas de Prada. Que vergenza estos cabrones! Ni una gota de respeto le tienen a la historia de los verdaderos Tainos del Caribe. Que bochornos son todos. Mi gato es mas Taino que estos mentirosas.
que pila de mentiras y mierda...mi gato es puro taino tambien, pero estos payasos tienen mas que un poquito de puto en su sangre...que verguenza e hipocritas...tipico nuyoricans acomplejado...gente sin un "clue" de su verdadera historia y que se han tragado este balde de meao "taino"....como decia mi abuelo gallego..."cuando el hombre pierde la verguenza, NADIE se la devuelve". Estos payasos son "tan poca cosa" y sus historia de trapo lo dice todo...cojan verguenza ya...que gente de calle!
Taino has been rediscovered in many Puerto Ricans by DNA testing. Lineage, Direct bloodlines are more important than the racist southafrican-gringo concept of the one drop rule. Get lost once and for all with your retrograde Ideas that have terrorized the american continent for centuries. And to the self proclaimed total descendants of spaniards that are making ignorant comments here if you can't accept change go back to Spain or Gringolandia we are sick of your arrogance.
@borodin62...taino has NOT been "re-discovered" anywhere you buffoon.NO ONE denies their existence!
But to say that the majority of people in Puerto Rico are "taino" descendants is as STUPID as saying that all Hasidic Jews in Brooklyn are "Mohawk" descendants because the original inhabitants of the area were.
The WHITE MAJORITY in Puerto Rico are the descendants of European immigrants that arrived in the mid-to-late 1800s NOT from the 1400s. Yours is the typical nativist prattle---ignorant!
I am white from Puerto Rico(Corsican,Galician &Basque).I know about Tainos in the Caribbean. I do not argue that there areSOME people in the Caribbean,who are in some small part of Indidigenous descent.But, to say that all people in the Caribbean are part Taino is about as stupid as saying that Hasidic Jews in Brooklyn are part Mohican because the original inhabitants of the area were Mohican.What next? All theMormons inUtah are part Navajo because the original "natives" were? Get real!
Taínos in New York? What a joke. None of the people on that panel look like native Indians, especially the Jorge Estevez guy who clearly has African ancestry. Let's face it, he's black. Apparently it must be fashionable for Puerto Ricans to deny their European and/or African heritage and claim to belong to a people that no longer exist and have not existed as a living culture in over 200 years.
@Shoegazer3000///I am white from Puerto Rico(Corsican,Galician & Basque).I do not argue that there areSOME people in the Caribbean,who are in some small part of Indidigenous descent.But, to say that all people in the Caribbean are part Taino is about as stupid as saying that Hasidic Jews in Brooklyn are part Mohican because the original inhabitants of the area were Mohican.What next? All the Mormons in Utah are part Navajo because the original "natives" were? These clowns need to get real!
@Shoegazer3000 where do you see african in him? you dipshit the tainos line lives on today even though their language and culture was destroyed they were not completely extinct, the majority were killed but a remnant still lives to this day
[39] And whereas thou sawest that he gathered another peaceable multitude unto him;
[40] Those are the ten tribes, which were carried away prisoners out of their own land in the time of Osea the king, whom Salmanasar the king of Assyria led away captive, and he carried them over the waters, and so came they into another land.
[41] But they took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
[42] That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
[43] And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
[44] For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
many indians were brought from mainland america(the continent) to Puerto Rico. How do these people know they are descendants from Tainos and not Mayas or other groups?
if u are born in the island that the taino called boriquen then u are a boricua taino we all are taino thats who we realy are if you were born in US your not american your a native the indians were here first it just some people whant us indans to die out but more people are born in the island and more tainos are born we are tainos forever we beat spain at war there were survivals they when to the mountains enrique (rebellion) lead a army and beat the spain thats what they dont whant to hear
@rocky3557 You can only be a Taino if your genetic make up says so, perhaps you use the term in a more "honorary" way than an actual heritage factor. The actual Tainos were pretty much destroyed to a 90% by the Spaniards. Black and white is the dominant factor in Puerto Rico with maybe some Taino blood there somewhere.
wrong, the spaniards heavily mixed with indian women in pr, this proven by autosomal dna tests, which shows your average puerto rican to be 60% euro 25% african and 15% Indian, PR's aren ot just white and black, there tri racial.
@applesandspeed 60% Euro, I don't think so. Cuba, yes, not PR. Latin america is famous for mix people choosing to identify as whites. The Taino factor, although real, is just an excuse to avoid the topic of being more black than anything else.
This is an important realization. To re-establish our roots, which have been almost eliminated is an important step. In Boriken, (now known as Puerto Rico), we are Taino.
Despite the superficial racist comments that have been posted here , the fact that the Taino culture, way of life and respect for each other exists, at least in Boriken, cannot be denied.
El senor estevez podra tener algo de raza negra por su color de piel, la mescla es obvia, pero decir que es negro? es RIDICULO! los rasgos de su cara son definitivamente TAINOS! sus ojos, su boca, sus labios y su nariz son totalmente de gene TAINO! los negros tienen nariz chata y labios gresos y ojos grandes saltones, el tiene nariza de aguila y ojos pequenos y labios de INDIGENA! NO DE NEGRO!
This is an interesting video! It is funny because Commonwealth of Dominica is the island where visibly and more pure looking Indigenous Caribbean peoples still live lol! The Caribs of Dominica (Kalingano/Garinganu) are one of the only remaining and surviving Indigenous communities in the Caribbean islands!
@Kalakekepr LOL! they are definitely indigenous looking but I see some features of African and European as well! Considering the history the indigenous and cimarrones usually would run to the mountainous interior countryside regions intermixing with each other! Do you think they are Tainos? I thinkk that they ARE definitely Tainos!
@Kalakekepr Oh you are talking about dominica? Oh okay, well i have heritage from that island and no they are MIXED! It is funny how you say dominica is afro-descendant but with DR you say that they are NOT afro-descendant!
@Kalakekepr Wrong! I know my island! Most of Dominica is mixed! Dominicans(Dominica) come in all colors! There are euro, Afro, Carib(indigenous), creole, mixed, and Arabs, and Asians, and much more, thank you very much! I don't know who told you everyone in Dominica is an Afrodescendant because you are very wrong!
@chsn09 yes so true, the island of Dominica has real carib amerindians , Dominica is the only Caribbean nation that has the surviving Amerindians original of the Caribbean.
@lalolita519 Thanks! You are right! Yeah the caribs and other indigenous peoples maintained much of their culture in Dominica! Every island has remannts of indigenous cultures in and from the Caribbean and South America but Dominica has ther largest remaining! :-)
You know whats funny is that you all say that these people have close indigenous bloodlines yet you think that it would be literally impossible for them to practice any preserved Taino spirituality & culture, how close minded can you people be. There are 1000's of Taino words in carribean spanish and many preserved customs and religous practices WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE they are trying to bring there dying culture back to life so stop trying to knock em down!! Because Im with them!!!
Two of the male interviewees are blacks with Taíno ancestry that are passing themselves off as full-blooded Natives. Louis Ramos looks to be of mixed Taíno and European background.
The only one of the interviewees who represent the phenotype of a Taíno is the woman.
There is only one black guy passing for indian. The other two are just indian and european, even the woman is mixed, there are no pure tainos anymore.
Please, keep your racist views to yourself. Read some history. This is about a culture and a way of life, not about abusive racist views such as yours.
Bottom line is that these people have strong taino bloodlines. But that of cousre is the only thing that is Taino about these people. Their not real Tainos culturally or spiritually.
@SHABAZZTRIBE tipico grifo acomplejado nuyorican, ni con verguenza ni con integridad...que pena y que perdida de identidad...get your head out of your screwed up afrocentrism...it hasn't help even the Africans in africa, but somehow you think it will help you in your malcom X bow tie and suit....get a life loser.
@8BRAAAINS...so you have DNA tested ALL 8 Million people of Puerto Rican culture background on the planet?
Wow, you should be written up on the front page of the New York Times for that accomplishment.
My GRANDPARENTS are directly from Corsica, Galicia, Mallorca (in Mediterranean) and Lanzarote, Canary Islands. And now I am a Taino? Go back to watching Oprah, please!
@8BRAAAINS///you know what is pathetic? that idiots like you who have NO empirical, well-researched or archival documented history of Puerto Rico, but are on YT talking your typical racisted diversity clap-trap and what is EVEN more sad is that anyone in Puerto Rico has to PROVE their racial background while idiots like you in the States get a free pass and have to prove nothing to no one. But then again your stupidity is so glaringly obvious why whould anyone ask you to prove it further. Loser!
@portacoelhi that's how ignorant you are. I never said I was Taino, I was just reciting research that was done. I understand that more work has to be done on the matter and that not all Puerto Ricans are Taino just because they have certain genes. i just find indigenous cultures intriguing, and for me i think its dope that i being born of Guayanilla, Puerto Rico could still have indigenous DNA in my system. no need for insults and assumptions
Its about time the Tainos stand up and reclaim their heritage..god bless all Taino people. Hispanic or Latino is not a race....people need to understand that. The only thing spanish about these and other so called latinos is that the spaniards came and devistated their ancestors. Its nothing short of a miracule they are able to reclaim who they are.
that whole taino indian thing is a joke!! they started reading books and making up dances and clothes out of no where, now all the sudden all the puerto ricans think they are taino Indians,..lmao,.. im native American by the way!
esto es el colmo... estos buscones que no saben nada de los tainos... se visten y actuan como una cultura que fue eliminada por los espanoles. he he miren los apellidos de estos falasantes.
well not really my friend remember that the españoles are mixed with people from the midle east 700 years of muslin conquest. over spain..so do not tell me that the people u mention is taino ..chayane looks like español ...jlo has big ass from the black heratige olga tañon she looks like pure madrileña ..no way amigo ...evo morales president from bolivia he is indigunous
there was a recent study done and im not exact on the numbers but it was found that about 70something percent of puerto ricans have as much as like 85% arawak madriocondal dna
@arrowakano Yes I read about that, and you know the people leaving these stupid comments about Boriquas are pullin all kinda crap out of nowhere..making stupid claims about JLo what kinda ignorant dumb shit is that..so because someone has an ass they have to be black....so many ignorant asses who live in the US..that dont know shit about history or the people of the world.
Fake Tainos. Many Tainos were wiped out The spaniards did not have a loving realtionships with these people. they brutalized them, now their inbred mulatto descendants low quality spaniard, Black and tiano enslaved women try to reclaim native ancestry. Bull.
Many tainos were treaty brutally by the spaniards nearly wiped out, if any ancestry did survive its from the poor women they raped and kept as cocubines. The tainos hated the spainards. So they have stolen thier identity to cover up thier black and little taino ancestry. All bogus.
@MsDude4444 where are you getting this info? From a text book? Research the very thing you say and you will realize that there is no truth in what you say. Alot of people when they dont know they make things up. Research before you make claims you cant even substantiate. Many people who are puerto rican are of Taino ancestry...look up the data.
YES is true that the native people had some contact around the continent but how u explain me the way that puerto ricans look like now why u don't look like peruanos,or mexicans,ecuadorians ?because they were exterminated just like some nations in the states....please don't try tobe some u are not..i respect that u guys try to bring back the legacy of these people ..but not with lies ...
the only reason why we dont look like those other people is because most of the tainos that didnt leave to other islands had relationships with the spaniards or the Canarians which came not only to Puerto Rico but also to Cuba, Dominican Republic, also that is why our ascent is not similar to all the other hispanic countries, if actually hear someone from the canary islands you will see that their ascent is similar to ours.
Many Puerto Ricans still look Indigenous. Look at J-Lo, Chayanne, La India, Olga Tanon.....also I know this Puerto Girl I used to work with she has long black hair, slanted eyes, reddish-brown skin, she is 100% Puerto Rican, no Asian blood, she tells mer her father is almost 100% Taino....and I have met many other Puerto Ricans who look Indigenous as well. Many survived in Puerto Rico. NO in Cuba or the Dominican Republic, though.
@coupleofbeers31 There are even Tainos still in Jamaica. Not many but I met a few when I was there. The tale that Arawak people were completely killed off by the spaniards is a lie.
I do not understand why people accept the lies. I guess its easier to swallow huh?
My Great grandfather is arawak due to the ignorane of some i havent met him yet but my dad mother thank god thought him so i learned alot about my levity. Unfortunately the language i was unable to learn but make great effort to from relatives.
Taino language were not true arawak speakers, their language was mixed with arawak,nahuatl (tainos were encountered with mayan and traded stuff long ago)
Arawak known as lokono the 6 clans but now 3 left clan is way'u and 2 others were the ones taught us languages thur pronounce sounds that's including caribs and some nahuatl
etano, i agree, it is good to teach the Taino language, the only problem is that since it was not a written language and there are no 500 year old Tainos walking around in the Bronx today, that's not likely to happen. And try to remember that the few words that have survived because they were written down by the SPANIARDS are not enough to comprise a language and knowing how to say "huracan" (for hurricane) and " mi quiero taco bell" isn't a language either. good luck dreaming in Taino.
where is Dr. Perez' war paint and plastic feathers...oh, that's right, he left them in his suit case on the luxury, air-conditioned New Jersey to Manhattan commuter bus from his all-white neighborhood. What a jerk and such a hypocrite patronizing these fake Tainos from the Bronx. My cat is more Taino.
quinsella, thanks for stating the obvious, the sad part is that many of the mulatto/mixed nuyoricans actually believe they are now tainos, this is usually not the case with white PRs in the States.i am born in Puerto Rico of European background(Corsican, Basque & Mayorcan) and i cannot believe the stupidity that I read in u-tube about us. it is really sad and insulting. i only hope that intelligent people will come to the island & see the truth and not believe this stupid crap on the internet.
cristian102, since when is rape and murder..."cross-mixing"...that comment alone says a lot about your level of intelligence and it is not good. What next? Cross-mixing with chupacabras?
I am really tired of youtube idiots speaking about the history of my country when they don't even know who their own fathers are. Just shut up and watch the next episode of "sabado giganto". That would be more productive.
taino culture is alive and well in the ghettos of NYC and on 1 day on 5th avenue when fake tainos from noo jerzee come to dance in fake polyester Hopi & Apache outfits. Next they are going to London to Madam Toussauds Wax Museum of Comedy and then return to Disneyland to Ride the Wild Sharks with Shamu the Killer Whale. This is just pathetic and so dishonest. Que verguenza estos payasos.
I applaud these ricans for acknowledging the true roots of their land cause tainos are the original owners of these islands,not spaniards and not even blacks,for a long time the people of these islands always represented the caribe with african and spanish roots,these roots are not even original to these islands,the spaniards have mislead people writing and conspiring history to their convenience and denying and opressing the native roots of these islands cause they know they are the true owners
Taino's were the people who dominated the antellies. Long story short, Spain enslaved the taino's and cross bred with them. So if you are Cuban Puerto Rican, Dominican, or even Columbian, chances are you probably have some trace of Taino in you're DNA. Does that make you Taino?? Not really, unless you really wanna get in touch with you're deep roots. The years of cross mixing with Africa, European, "Latino" blood will make it very difficult to dicifer
I think all of you should have your OWN DNA tests done to PROVE you are real Tainos and that includes this clown Perez too. Then POST your Taino findings here. That will at least prove YOU are Tainos and not mulattos with straightened hair carrying Gucci bags and wearing Prada boots.
Anthropolgist have gone to these island in the early 1900 and mid 1900 they to have confirmed that a small part of the population is taino. I have always be aware of my taino ancestry. But its cool now to see anthropolgy and genists confirm it. With that said just cause some people are not taino they should not be knocking the deccendants for recoverying what once was lost.
DNA has already confirmed taino deccendants. Not every one is a deccendant. In puerto rico is 61%, in cuba 33% (in the mountain areas) in dominican rep 15% (especialy in the cibao region where dna strands confirm we were unmixed till recently) How can anyone argue with dna ..
they cant argue it..they are just haters..hate when they see a proud group of people. Think of it..why would anyone come to a video and talk shit about what they think someone aint...just a bunch of pathetic hates..they DNA speaks loud and clear and even dwarfs a textbook written by europeans!!!
MissJenni2642:unfortunately it's gonna be very hard for ignorant fucks to understand your intelligence,most of these ignorant people are totally brainwashed by euroccentric lies that were conspired in history,they lack common sense,we don't even really need a book to see right through that the taino gene still lives in the carribean people, all we they have to do is look at the caribbeans faces and we will see the taino gene, just like these people in the video, their taino gene is obvious
Oh shut the fuck up! it's obvious that your an anti-indigenous racist yourself by denying just like the euroliars that the indigenous gene still exist, you just can't accept TRUTH! and your euroracism hates the fact that people all over latinamerica including the carribean are being enlightened about who they are, I think the only stupid arrogant fucks are sellout trash that think like you! GUILT CAN VERY DARING!!!
It get's deeper then being indigenous to the americas. These so called Indians did not always live here and even the europeans new this. We are from the greastest nation that has ever existed. Why did columbus take Luis De Torres as his translator. Read and see what languages he spoke. You can see from many old books that we are Gods chosen people. Also it can be proven through scripture. This goes all the way back to Assyrian captivity and king Cyrus. Deuteronomy 7:6
don't let eurolies and euro historical conspiracies decieve you, the myth that indigenous people came from asia or elswhere is just a THEORY! indigenous people have always been the true owners of this land period! the euros were thieves that stole this land
Did you look look at anything I said? I'm not decieved and if you let them they will have stolen more then your land. Christopher knew about this land through the scriptures. The same scriptures your forefathers wrote. A nation does not simply disapear into thin air. Open book after book after book there is no denying who we are. I never said this land wasn't stolen. The bible said no man dwelt here. I'm saying history is greater then what is discovered in so called Americas.
The name the bible gives this land is Arsareth which simple means another land. Do you know anything about white washing? We are statues aroud the world missing their noses and lips why are all these paintings smudged. The great sphinx is one example. This is known as the Renaissance period. Our peope came to this land out of assyrian captivity 2Esdras 13:40-47. Everything that happen to us Moses spoke about in Deuteronomy 28 after the exodus from Eygpt. They are still stealing from you.
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Christopher columbus was confused and thought this land was India, thats why people went on with beliveing that natives were indians when they are really not, the bible is just another manmade book that has been tampered with and misconstrued, I dont rely on the bible to base the real truth, I don't believe in the 12 tribes of isreal bullshit
I kind I agree with you, but I am sure 90% that theancient americans went to the old world about 9000 years ago to colonize the middle east, the Himaliyans area, east of italy, turkey, greece, north of africa, north of japan,the britain island, irak and iran,
I can prove you every system of mesurement, any method of counstruction, writting, and many others thing originate in the America google magna bowl that has proto- summerian writting . and many artifacts in brazil with proto-hittie
why is it that every body is supose to understand why you ppl hate arabs and nazis but dont understand why others hate you when you have committed the same acts against others.If white ppl are so sympathetic about what their cruel ancestors did to the indians and negros why not give back what they've taken and stole?why dont the children of you all go back to the caves and let every one live by their own laws?
what is that creature talkng about?..por Dios?!...get a history book (read it and analize it)and then post a comment "white puerto rican",NOone here cares what u came from,go post ur commnts somewhere else,if u dont agree..dont be so ignorant and dont insult others opinions....great examples..they made total sence..im sarcastic btw lololol..lmao XD!!!
I am white from Puerto Rico(Corsican,Galician & Basque) & I know about the Tainos in the Caribbean. I do not argue that there areSOME people in the Caribbean,who are in some small part of Indidigenous descent.But, to say that all people in the Caribbean are part Taino is about as stupid as saying that Hasidic Jews in Brooklyn are part Mohican because the original inhabitants of the area were Mohican.What next? All the Mormons in Utah are part Navajo because the original "natives" were? Get real!
Portacoelhi, You are right. You actually missunderstood. No one is stating that everybody in the caribbean is native american. Actually if you just add puerto rico, cuba and dominican rep taino population it will be about 35%. That is very low. There people living in the caribbean who are only euro's. But your statement about the taino deccendant only have a little of indian blood is an error. In the dominican rep. Where only 15% of the population has native american ancestry
Portacoelhi part 2- dna strand in the cibao region of kiskeya aka dominican rep. confirms that we remained unmixed and any admxitre was very recent. In eastern cuba were taino deccendants live it very similiar. I would assume for borike its the same. So your statement is correnct and you missunderstood What these folks were saying. I personly met all of them. But Jorge is the one that I am closest too. DNA that I know I got from him and he actually got from the researchers who he nows.
Partacoelhi part 3, So here is where we stand. Boriken 62%, cuba 33% and domincan rep 15% are of taino ancestry. I would hardly call this everybody in the island has native american ancestry. Anyways I hope that I was able to clarify any question or missunderstanding.
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Also what you need to understand is that there are alot of our ppl so called Hispanics and Negros who will sell out there own for MONEY which is the devils power!This taino nonsense is BS Cuz whites and so called natives didnt even speak the same language or understand each other/they used black negros to interpit words thats becuz they both spoke hebrew
Crash, I understand about those labels dominican, puerto rican etc etc and there history behind does labels. I agree with you on that. But the spanish that we speak in kiskeya, boriken and cubanakan (I am using ther tiano names) have many taino words especilay in the mountain regions were tainos still live. Spaninsh and other european languages were forced on my ancestors but many of our words still remain. Just want to compare them.
crash true taino and europeans didnt understand eachother. Thats why spaniords had a person trying to learn our language and some tainos did the same.
If hebrew was spoken I am very intersted in how a jewish language and a native language would be the same. Thats why if you could please email me on my personal account or here if you like some words that I mentioned I could see how close they are.
Crash, I wil make it a bit easier as to tell you why I am having a hard time understanding what you trying to say. Not all tribes spoke the same language. Yes there are similarites that even surprised me. But if that is the case why dont I understand not even one word of cherokee or inuet. But I have heard words that sound the same and even mean the same from other tribes like the lokonos, mayans, caribs, Woadani (ecudorian indians) Not all words ofcourse but some to my surprise I understood.
anybody who denies the tainos survived is full of shit...meztisos in puerto rico are clearly the majority
Lyric1235 1 month ago
@Lyric1235 Mestizos in puerto rico don't exist, your country is full of whites. look at puerto ricos wikipedia page. 75% of puerto rico is mostly of spanish decent.
fuckrock67 2 days ago
Youtube search "Mayan to Saponi 1/9 " It is a 9 part series that will help support the Tainos into america.
Monasukapanough 4 months ago
@TehDudeluv42
I know I am. My ancestors did not discriminate in recent years when it came to keeping the cultuire alive. Its not an issue. We are all related!
dnr71345 6 months ago
@TehDudeluv42
I have no desire to be tested at this time due to the fact that I was privileged to learn about my great-great grandparents who were indigenous traditional people.I had met my great-grandparents when I was a teenager and hold tons of stories about our indigenous ways. I was blessed to know this and I am the one in my family that is carrying the traditions in an open way to educate others. DNA will only confirm what I know so I rather spend my money on other things.
dnr71345 6 months ago
@dnr71345
In addition, DNA is a great tool for those who want federal recognition but I personally don't need the feds to tell me who I am.
dnr71345 6 months ago
I was one of the Taino that were interviewed. I am honored and blessed to have learn from my family (prior to DNA technology) that I am indigenous. Granted, many thought it was not a good idea to come public with it but now I see why. The comments by many are truly prejudice in nature. I am who I am and i cannot change it. Sorry folks for those that differ. Old taino Adage: "The trees in the forest may look different but the roots all look the same." Long live the Taino!
dnr71345 6 months ago
Why does it have to be the "screw whitey"? The fact remains that whether one likes it or not the people of PuertoRico are mostly "whitey" from their father side and so far the results show about 61% amerindian through the mother (mytochondrial) side. African is there in percentages through both mother and father DNA due to the fact that both male and female slaves came to the island. A small % female European DNA shows also.
But I guess these facts do not stop morons from making stupid sounds
LIBRETAVIEJA 9 months ago
Isn't exactly extinction...so leave Taino mixed ppl alone Bec we want to keep it alive
TheTainoWarrior 9 months ago
@TheTainoWarrior most puerto ricans are mixed, european blood is mainly in their veins and DNA. You can keep your taino culture alive but you must take pride in your other roots too.
XxKillerteddybearsX3 9 months ago
No one says pure Taino bloods ok we all aware we r mixed with Taino natives in our bloods, word extinction define? Means wiped out with everything including culture,foods such as casabi bread,Taino words even dna leave with nothing but unfortunately they didn't wipe Taino ppl out well enough by raped native women,escapes n hide in cave n such .....basically we r mixed natives with Europeans or Africans or all 3 races depend where they came from within areas......so with natives in our bloods....
TheTainoWarrior 9 months ago
Thank u tattoine
TheTainoWarrior 9 months ago
Narraganset people intermixed with whites and blacks (sadly). But they are a federally recognized tribe, right? So, stop talking about Taino extinction. You will never be the actual "Caribbeans" At least in my opinion, you stealers.
CitizenofTatooine 9 months ago
Native American heritage is above all the other "heritages". You so called "Americans"
CitizenofTatooine 9 months ago
FAMOUS TAINO PUERTO RICANS INCLUDE...ERICK ESTRADA,ESAI MORALES,JIMMY SMITS,LOUI GUZMAN AND JLO IS HALF TAINA
morongator 10 months ago
@morongator JUAN LAPORTE, GOOD BOXER, 100 % TAINO.
budfr 7 months ago
62% of PR population have Amerindian DNA. Almost 20,000 persons on the island identify as Amerindian. These are descendants of Tainos who survived into the 1800 hundreds in Anasco and San German las Indieras. Today many Persons of PR. are at least 1/4 Amerindian.
Domingo12754 10 months ago
TRUE TRUE!.Too many people getting into the "I am Indian" thing because somehow it is cool now. HOWEVER! there are those just as ignorant that get into the "nobody is Indian" WHY? Because they believe in the outdated dogma that "the Tainos were all exterminated by the Spaniards. PROBLEM? Today we have DNA testing. No matter what your theory is DNA IS the ONLY definite evidence. So far male DNA (Y) testing shows the majority of Puerto Rican fathers were Spanish. BUT 61% of the mothers show Indian
LIBRETAVIEJA 10 months ago
Many "chiefs" of government recognized "tribes", such as Chad Smith of the Cherokee, are "mixed bloods", so what's really the issue with so-called Latinos reclaiming thier indigenous identity? Could it be that with the concept of "being wiped" comes the notion that there are no witnesses to the crimes of imperialism? Wiped out? Where are the mass graves? Hmmmm.
shacehum 10 months ago
Intersting how no one seems to have a problem with identifying a "jewish" ancestor and reclaiming their supposed birthright as one of "God's chosen", but if someone does it with indigenous ancestry, it's laughable. I do agree that many Borikuas ignore their apparent African ancestry, yet in the same breath, if a light skinned Borikua did assert their "Africaness" they'd still be laughed at. The real issue is overcoming conditioning of eurocentrism & white supremacy.
shacehum 10 months ago
FTDNA<<<< Family Tree DNA has a DNA test that will indicate without a doubt which DNA (thus real and conclusive) IF you are indeed of Amerindian ancestry...The rest is either trash talk . Those that claim to be Taino must first get the test and then make the claim. The indigenous haplogroups are very well identified. So far about 61% of the people of Puerto Rico tested show Amerindian DNA through the mother side (this is called MTDNA or Mytocondrial DNA) .The Father side is mostly From Spain.
LIBRETAVIEJA 1 year ago 3
@LIBRETAVIEJA I do not need DNA. The knowledge was passed down in my family.
dnr71345 1 year ago
@dnr71345 Aunque yo no he tenido la dicha que usted tienes en tener una rica historia familiar, yo tuve que emplear el examen de el dna. Respeto su posicion en no elegir el examen de el dna. Saludos.
notfarfromhome 11 months ago
@LIBRETAVIEJA Por fin es aparente que se encuentre una voz con inteligencia. Le aplaudo sus palabras.
notfarfromhome 11 months ago
The Tianos are alive!!!!!!!!! How the hell can u even say they dont exist! I am living proof and I practice what I preach. My family came from Utuado Puerto Rico telling me all of the stories! Even about the spainard invading. Dont ever say they dont exist when you dont know! Shame on you. I have the stories of proof.
Natashassxy 1 year ago
Why do so many people seem to want the Taino dead so badly... they do look in part indigenous, and i bet they recognized that they're mixed but in this video they're showing this side of their culture and race. There's no denying that there are still tons of people who have Taino blood in their veins and it's definitely in our culture, but why do you want us dead so badly? They're just asserting their race that people have been making look extinct for so long just how you're trying to do now.
kikito172 1 year ago
Hoy en dia hay mas tainos en los caserios del Bronx que JAMAS existieron en el Caribe ENTERO...ese "hecho" lo dice todo de estos "expertos" Tainos...
Ojala, aprenderan que pa' ser "Taino" uno tiene que tener mas que pelo planchao, una cartera de Gucci y botas de Prada. Que vergenza estos cabrones! Ni una gota de respeto le tienen a la historia de los verdaderos Tainos del Caribe. Que bochornos son todos. Mi gato es mas Taino que estos mentirosas.
SebastianQuinsella 1 year ago 3
que pila de mentiras y mierda...mi gato es puro taino tambien, pero estos payasos tienen mas que un poquito de puto en su sangre...que verguenza e hipocritas...tipico nuyoricans acomplejado...gente sin un "clue" de su verdadera historia y que se han tragado este balde de meao "taino"....como decia mi abuelo gallego..."cuando el hombre pierde la verguenza, NADIE se la devuelve". Estos payasos son "tan poca cosa" y sus historia de trapo lo dice todo...cojan verguenza ya...que gente de calle!
SebastianQuinsella 1 year ago 2
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Taino has been rediscovered in many Puerto Ricans by DNA testing. Lineage, Direct bloodlines are more important than the racist southafrican-gringo concept of the one drop rule. Get lost once and for all with your retrograde Ideas that have terrorized the american continent for centuries. And to the self proclaimed total descendants of spaniards that are making ignorant comments here if you can't accept change go back to Spain or Gringolandia we are sick of your arrogance.
borodin62 1 year ago
@borodin62...taino has NOT been "re-discovered" anywhere you buffoon.NO ONE denies their existence!
But to say that the majority of people in Puerto Rico are "taino" descendants is as STUPID as saying that all Hasidic Jews in Brooklyn are "Mohawk" descendants because the original inhabitants of the area were.
The WHITE MAJORITY in Puerto Rico are the descendants of European immigrants that arrived in the mid-to-late 1800s NOT from the 1400s. Yours is the typical nativist prattle---ignorant!
bayamonkey 1 year ago
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borodin62 1 year ago
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I am white from Puerto Rico(Corsican,Galician &Basque).I know about Tainos in the Caribbean. I do not argue that there areSOME people in the Caribbean,who are in some small part of Indidigenous descent.But, to say that all people in the Caribbean are part Taino is about as stupid as saying that Hasidic Jews in Brooklyn are part Mohican because the original inhabitants of the area were Mohican.What next? All theMormons inUtah are part Navajo because the original "natives" were? Get real!
portacoelhi 1 year ago
Taínos in New York? What a joke. None of the people on that panel look like native Indians, especially the Jorge Estevez guy who clearly has African ancestry. Let's face it, he's black. Apparently it must be fashionable for Puerto Ricans to deny their European and/or African heritage and claim to belong to a people that no longer exist and have not existed as a living culture in over 200 years.
Shoegazer3000 1 year ago 6
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@Shoegazer3000///I am white from Puerto Rico(Corsican,Galician & Basque).I do not argue that there areSOME people in the Caribbean,who are in some small part of Indidigenous descent.But, to say that all people in the Caribbean are part Taino is about as stupid as saying that Hasidic Jews in Brooklyn are part Mohican because the original inhabitants of the area were Mohican.What next? All the Mormons in Utah are part Navajo because the original "natives" were? These clowns need to get real!
portacoelhi 1 year ago
@Shoegazer3000 where do you see african in him? you dipshit the tainos line lives on today even though their language and culture was destroyed they were not completely extinct, the majority were killed but a remnant still lives to this day
98stwarmachine 4 months ago
Our Heritage Lost my people:
II Esdras 13 says:
[39] And whereas thou sawest that he gathered another peaceable multitude unto him;
[40] Those are the ten tribes, which were carried away prisoners out of their own land in the time of Osea the king, whom Salmanasar the king of Assyria led away captive, and he carried them over the waters, and so came they into another land.
Yochanan64 1 year ago
[41] But they took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
[42] That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
[43] And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
[44] For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
Yochanan64 1 year ago
[45] For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
[46] Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
Yochanan64 1 year ago
[47] The Highest shall stay the springs of the stream again, that they may go through: therefore sawest thou the multitude with peace.
[48] But those that be left behind of thy people are they that are found within my borders.
[49] Now when he destroyeth the multitude of the nations that are gathered together, he shall defend his people that remain.
[50] And then shall he shew them great wonders.
Yochanan64 1 year ago
many indians were brought from mainland america(the continent) to Puerto Rico. How do these people know they are descendants from Tainos and not Mayas or other groups?
chukurulugai 1 year ago
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1980vince 1 year ago
@chukurulugai Exactly I totally agree w/ you. They also brought in indigenous from other islands as well as from the mainlands.
chsn09 1 year ago
@chsn09 YOU R C ONFUSED STUPID AFROCENTRIK F RENCH CAR IBEEN
elmagisian 1 year ago
if u are born in the island that the taino called boriquen then u are a boricua taino we all are taino thats who we realy are if you were born in US your not american your a native the indians were here first it just some people whant us indans to die out but more people are born in the island and more tainos are born we are tainos forever we beat spain at war there were survivals they when to the mountains enrique (rebellion) lead a army and beat the spain thats what they dont whant to hear
rocky3557 1 year ago
@rocky3557 You can only be a Taino if your genetic make up says so, perhaps you use the term in a more "honorary" way than an actual heritage factor. The actual Tainos were pretty much destroyed to a 90% by the Spaniards. Black and white is the dominant factor in Puerto Rico with maybe some Taino blood there somewhere.
chukurulugai 1 year ago
@chukurulugai
wrong, the spaniards heavily mixed with indian women in pr, this proven by autosomal dna tests, which shows your average puerto rican to be 60% euro 25% african and 15% Indian, PR's aren ot just white and black, there tri racial.
applesandspeed 1 year ago
@applesandspeed 60% Euro, I don't think so. Cuba, yes, not PR. Latin america is famous for mix people choosing to identify as whites. The Taino factor, although real, is just an excuse to avoid the topic of being more black than anything else.
chukurulugai 1 year ago
@chukurulugai
Yes they are, check any autosomal tests on PR's there Euro ancestry is on average between 53-60% african 25%-30% Indian 15-20%.
Indian is still very much apart of PR's ancestry.
applesandspeed 1 year ago
@chukurulugai Actually these are the demographics of CUBA
51% Mulatto
37% White
11% Black
1% Asians and others
chsn09 1 year ago
@chsn09 CU BBBBBBBBBBBBA T H E M A JORI T Y I SWH ITE T AI N O MU LATO T REE RASIAL AND SOM E B L A CK
elmagisian 1 year ago
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@elmagisian
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dano122772 1 year ago
@applesandspeed Is it true there is still a number of Cubans with Taino blood?
hibyeeee2 1 year ago
Please!,
This is an important realization. To re-establish our roots, which have been almost eliminated is an important step. In Boriken, (now known as Puerto Rico), we are Taino.
Despite the superficial racist comments that have been posted here , the fact that the Taino culture, way of life and respect for each other exists, at least in Boriken, cannot be denied.
dba3304 1 year ago
king chyldz dontplay spreading love its the brooklyn way reality reach open that book
drugsfx 1 year ago
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These people are OBVIOUSLY Taino descendants! NO one is PURE, but these people are definitely Taino!
chsn09 1 year ago
El senor estevez podra tener algo de raza negra por su color de piel, la mescla es obvia, pero decir que es negro? es RIDICULO! los rasgos de su cara son definitivamente TAINOS! sus ojos, su boca, sus labios y su nariz son totalmente de gene TAINO! los negros tienen nariz chata y labios gresos y ojos grandes saltones, el tiene nariza de aguila y ojos pequenos y labios de INDIGENA! NO DE NEGRO!
aromadti 1 year ago
@aromadti Si claro! Veredad!
chsn09 1 year ago
This is an interesting video! It is funny because Commonwealth of Dominica is the island where visibly and more pure looking Indigenous Caribbean peoples still live lol! The Caribs of Dominica (Kalingano/Garinganu) are one of the only remaining and surviving Indigenous communities in the Caribbean islands!
chsn09 1 year ago
@chsn09 yeah,right afro-descendants. lol
Kalakekepr 1 year ago
@Kalakekepr LOL! they are definitely indigenous looking but I see some features of African and European as well! Considering the history the indigenous and cimarrones usually would run to the mountainous interior countryside regions intermixing with each other! Do you think they are Tainos? I thinkk that they ARE definitely Tainos!
chsn09 1 year ago
@chsn09 sorry but dominica is afro-descendant
Kalakekepr 1 year ago
@Kalakekepr Oh you are talking about dominica? Oh okay, well i have heritage from that island and no they are MIXED! It is funny how you say dominica is afro-descendant but with DR you say that they are NOT afro-descendant!
chsn09 1 year ago
@Kalakekepr Wrong! I know my island! Most of Dominica is mixed! Dominicans(Dominica) come in all colors! There are euro, Afro, Carib(indigenous), creole, mixed, and Arabs, and Asians, and much more, thank you very much! I don't know who told you everyone in Dominica is an Afrodescendant because you are very wrong!
chsn09 1 year ago
@chsn09 yes so true, the island of Dominica has real carib amerindians , Dominica is the only Caribbean nation that has the surviving Amerindians original of the Caribbean.
lalolita519 1 year ago
@lalolita519 Thanks! You are right! Yeah the caribs and other indigenous peoples maintained much of their culture in Dominica! Every island has remannts of indigenous cultures in and from the Caribbean and South America but Dominica has ther largest remaining! :-)
chsn09 1 year ago
You know whats funny is that you all say that these people have close indigenous bloodlines yet you think that it would be literally impossible for them to practice any preserved Taino spirituality & culture, how close minded can you people be. There are 1000's of Taino words in carribean spanish and many preserved customs and religous practices WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE they are trying to bring there dying culture back to life so stop trying to knock em down!! Because Im with them!!!
MANIKATOEX 1 year ago
i just want to say to everyone is
"hello ya'll ! "
CrazyNative4 2 years ago
the human race fascinates me
CrazyNative4 2 years ago
the way they dress?
CrazyNative4 2 years ago
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NONE OF THIS MATTERS!!!
lexyota 2 years ago
Why don't they look like other indians like mexicans and guatemalans or native americans?
Bmatt2163 2 years ago
Two of the male interviewees are blacks with Taíno ancestry that are passing themselves off as full-blooded Natives. Louis Ramos looks to be of mixed Taíno and European background.
The only one of the interviewees who represent the phenotype of a Taíno is the woman.
Marllon 2 years ago
There is only one black guy passing for indian. The other two are just indian and european, even the woman is mixed, there are no pure tainos anymore.
Bmatt2163 2 years ago
The one with kinky grey hair is obviously black, despite his light complexion.
Yes, the woman obviously has mixed-race ancestry, but I was saying she's the one who appears closest to what a Taíno might've looked like.
Marllon 2 years ago
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chsn09 1 year ago
@Marllon
no they all look pretty native looking to me.
applesandspeed 1 year ago
LMAO okay, buddy.
Marllon 1 year ago
@applesandspeed Hmm! They do look native but they look mixed as well with black and/or white!
chsn09 1 year ago
@chsn09
agreed.
applesandspeed 1 year ago
@Marllon
Please, keep your racist views to yourself. Read some history. This is about a culture and a way of life, not about abusive racist views such as yours.
dba3304 1 year ago
@dba3304 Racist? How? I'm just pointing out the obvious. Remaining in denial is embarrassing.
Marllon 1 year ago
@Bmatt2163
So what. You are missing the point.
dba3304 1 year ago
Bottom line is that these people have strong taino bloodlines. But that of cousre is the only thing that is Taino about these people. Their not real Tainos culturally or spiritually.
Ucorn 2 years ago
let's get real here...a "Taino" gene in ANYBODY does NOT make them Taino.
If you believe that lie, then tell it to Heather Locklear, Cher & all the other FAKE Injuns in the US...this is a joke
portacoelhi 2 years ago 17
@portacoelhi a joke...youre a joke...
andyastro1 1 year ago
@portacoelhi your mothers a joke u devil
SHABAZZTRIBE 1 year ago
@SHABAZZTRIBE tipico grifo acomplejado nuyorican, ni con verguenza ni con integridad...que pena y que perdida de identidad...get your head out of your screwed up afrocentrism...it hasn't help even the Africans in africa, but somehow you think it will help you in your malcom X bow tie and suit....get a life loser.
portacoelhi 1 year ago
@portacoelhi THE ONLY THING SMART THAT COMES OUT YOUR MOUTH IS DICK...YOUR AN ABOMINATION AND YOUR MAMA SHOULD HAVE JUST SWALLWED YOU INSTEAD
SHABAZZTRIBE 1 year ago
@portacoelhi Please. It's more than the superficial skin color. It is a culture and way of life.
dba3304 1 year ago
@portacoelhi its not just 1 gene it shows that most puerto ricans have about 62 % taino dna
8BRAAAINS 1 year ago
@portacoelhi its not just 1 gene it shows that most puerto ricans have about 62 % taino dna
8BRAAAINS 1 year ago
@8BRAAAINS...so you have DNA tested ALL 8 Million people of Puerto Rican culture background on the planet?
Wow, you should be written up on the front page of the New York Times for that accomplishment.
My GRANDPARENTS are directly from Corsica, Galicia, Mallorca (in Mediterranean) and Lanzarote, Canary Islands. And now I am a Taino? Go back to watching Oprah, please!
portacoelhi 1 year ago 3
@8BRAAAINS///you know what is pathetic? that idiots like you who have NO empirical, well-researched or archival documented history of Puerto Rico, but are on YT talking your typical racisted diversity clap-trap and what is EVEN more sad is that anyone in Puerto Rico has to PROVE their racial background while idiots like you in the States get a free pass and have to prove nothing to no one. But then again your stupidity is so glaringly obvious why whould anyone ask you to prove it further. Loser!
portacoelhi 1 year ago 6
@portacoelhi that's how ignorant you are. I never said I was Taino, I was just reciting research that was done. I understand that more work has to be done on the matter and that not all Puerto Ricans are Taino just because they have certain genes. i just find indigenous cultures intriguing, and for me i think its dope that i being born of Guayanilla, Puerto Rico could still have indigenous DNA in my system. no need for insults and assumptions
8BRAAAINS 1 year ago
@portacoelhi
I agree
prjibaro1 8 months ago
Ese senor Estevez no parece Taino, el
senor es negro.
courpodorado1 2 years ago 9
@courpodorado1 este pendejo tiene mas de tonto que taino
portacoelhi 1 year ago
Its about time the Tainos stand up and reclaim their heritage..god bless all Taino people. Hispanic or Latino is not a race....people need to understand that. The only thing spanish about these and other so called latinos is that the spaniards came and devistated their ancestors. Its nothing short of a miracule they are able to reclaim who they are.
MissJenni2642 2 years ago
that whole taino indian thing is a joke!! they started reading books and making up dances and clothes out of no where, now all the sudden all the puerto ricans think they are taino Indians,..lmao,.. im native American by the way!
basskillaz 2 years ago 2
@basskillaz so if they are not natives then what would you say they are?
MissJenni2642 2 years ago
what they always been,.puerto rican's!!
basskillaz 2 years ago
esto es el colmo... estos buscones que no saben nada de los tainos... se visten y actuan como una cultura que fue eliminada por los espanoles. he he miren los apellidos de estos falasantes.
sanchopanza123 2 years ago 5
well not really my friend remember that the españoles are mixed with people from the midle east 700 years of muslin conquest. over spain..so do not tell me that the people u mention is taino ..chayane looks like español ...jlo has big ass from the black heratige olga tañon she looks like pure madrileña ..no way amigo ...evo morales president from bolivia he is indigunous
calerometra 2 years ago
there was a recent study done and im not exact on the numbers but it was found that about 70something percent of puerto ricans have as much as like 85% arawak madriocondal dna
arrowakano 2 years ago
@arrowakano Yes I read about that, and you know the people leaving these stupid comments about Boriquas are pullin all kinda crap out of nowhere..making stupid claims about JLo what kinda ignorant dumb shit is that..so because someone has an ass they have to be black....so many ignorant asses who live in the US..that dont know shit about history or the people of the world.
MissJenni2642 2 years ago
any wonder why there are so many Tainos in the Bronx?
More than ever lived in the Caribbean...wow, these minds are so empty...just pathetic
SebastianQuinsella 2 years ago
Fake Tainos. Many Tainos were wiped out The spaniards did not have a loving realtionships with these people. they brutalized them, now their inbred mulatto descendants low quality spaniard, Black and tiano enslaved women try to reclaim native ancestry. Bull.
MsDude4444 2 years ago 2
@MsDude4444 what your saying makes no sense, if these people did not have taino ancestry they would appear to be white or mixed with black and white.
kohro 2 years ago 3
Many tainos were treaty brutally by the spaniards nearly wiped out, if any ancestry did survive its from the poor women they raped and kept as cocubines. The tainos hated the spainards. So they have stolen thier identity to cover up thier black and little taino ancestry. All bogus.
MsDude4444 2 years ago 2
@MsDude4444 where are you getting this info? From a text book? Research the very thing you say and you will realize that there is no truth in what you say. Alot of people when they dont know they make things up. Research before you make claims you cant even substantiate. Many people who are puerto rican are of Taino ancestry...look up the data.
MissJenni2642 2 years ago
YES is true that the native people had some contact around the continent but how u explain me the way that puerto ricans look like now why u don't look like peruanos,or mexicans,ecuadorians ?because they were exterminated just like some nations in the states....please don't try tobe some u are not..i respect that u guys try to bring back the legacy of these people ..but not with lies ...
calerometra 2 years ago
the only reason why we dont look like those other people is because most of the tainos that didnt leave to other islands had relationships with the spaniards or the Canarians which came not only to Puerto Rico but also to Cuba, Dominican Republic, also that is why our ascent is not similar to all the other hispanic countries, if actually hear someone from the canary islands you will see that their ascent is similar to ours.
titofl07 2 years ago
Many Puerto Ricans still look Indigenous. Look at J-Lo, Chayanne, La India, Olga Tanon.....also I know this Puerto Girl I used to work with she has long black hair, slanted eyes, reddish-brown skin, she is 100% Puerto Rican, no Asian blood, she tells mer her father is almost 100% Taino....and I have met many other Puerto Ricans who look Indigenous as well. Many survived in Puerto Rico. NO in Cuba or the Dominican Republic, though.
coupleofbeers31 2 years ago
@coupleofbeers31 There are even Tainos still in Jamaica. Not many but I met a few when I was there. The tale that Arawak people were completely killed off by the spaniards is a lie.
I do not understand why people accept the lies. I guess its easier to swallow huh?
MissJenni2642 2 years ago
Also look at Erik Estrada, he looks very indigenous and is 100% Puerto Rican. He is mestizo.
coupleofbeers31 2 years ago
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calerometra 2 years ago
My Great grandfather is arawak due to the ignorane of some i havent met him yet but my dad mother thank god thought him so i learned alot about my levity. Unfortunately the language i was unable to learn but make great effort to from relatives.
KajiraSpirit 2 years ago
my last name is Estevez :D !!!!!!
Beronika06 2 years ago
Especially most spaniards stole their native words and mix it with spanish langauges just like they did with aztec (meeshika) and mayan's in mexico
braveseaeagle 2 years ago
yea like tomato chocolate and other foods..
EZ3Xicano 2 years ago
Taino language were not true arawak speakers, their language was mixed with arawak,nahuatl (tainos were encountered with mayan and traded stuff long ago)
braveseaeagle 2 years ago
Arawak known as lokono the 6 clans but now 3 left clan is way'u and 2 others were the ones taught us languages thur pronounce sounds that's including caribs and some nahuatl
braveseaeagle 2 years ago
And yes Tainos never written alphabet mostly pronounce sounds and written with symbols...same goes to all natives from north to south turtle island.
braveseaeagle 2 years ago
etano, i agree, it is good to teach the Taino language, the only problem is that since it was not a written language and there are no 500 year old Tainos walking around in the Bronx today, that's not likely to happen. And try to remember that the few words that have survived because they were written down by the SPANIARDS are not enough to comprise a language and knowing how to say "huracan" (for hurricane) and " mi quiero taco bell" isn't a language either. good luck dreaming in Taino.
SebastianQuinsella 2 years ago 4
Please- stop the hating. You seem to have an issue with purity. Hitler had the same issue. Please seek counseling.
dnr71345 2 years ago
where is Dr. Perez' war paint and plastic feathers...oh, that's right, he left them in his suit case on the luxury, air-conditioned New Jersey to Manhattan commuter bus from his all-white neighborhood. What a jerk and such a hypocrite patronizing these fake Tainos from the Bronx. My cat is more Taino.
SebastianQuinsella 2 years ago 7
quinsella, thanks for stating the obvious, the sad part is that many of the mulatto/mixed nuyoricans actually believe they are now tainos, this is usually not the case with white PRs in the States.i am born in Puerto Rico of European background(Corsican, Basque & Mayorcan) and i cannot believe the stupidity that I read in u-tube about us. it is really sad and insulting. i only hope that intelligent people will come to the island & see the truth and not believe this stupid crap on the internet.
bayamonkey 2 years ago 7
Fake Tainos? Hey, I guess you do acknowledge us! Stop the hate!
dnr71345 2 years ago
ppl are sounding like hitler lol dont judge ppl
EZ3Xicano 2 years ago
damn you are such a hater..what the hell is wrong with you?!?!?
You cant substantiate any of the things you say. You just spew stupidity and total ignorance. Come with some facts otherwise shut the fuck up!
MissJenni2642 2 years ago
cristian102, since when is rape and murder..."cross-mixing"...that comment alone says a lot about your level of intelligence and it is not good. What next? Cross-mixing with chupacabras?
I am really tired of youtube idiots speaking about the history of my country when they don't even know who their own fathers are. Just shut up and watch the next episode of "sabado giganto". That would be more productive.
SebastianQuinsella 2 years ago 4
enano1,
taino culture is alive and well in the ghettos of NYC and on 1 day on 5th avenue when fake tainos from noo jerzee come to dance in fake polyester Hopi & Apache outfits. Next they are going to London to Madam Toussauds Wax Museum of Comedy and then return to Disneyland to Ride the Wild Sharks with Shamu the Killer Whale. This is just pathetic and so dishonest. Que verguenza estos payasos.
SebastianQuinsella 2 years ago 3
mixed Taino native pride, Tai ku.
braveseaeagle 2 years ago
I applaud these ricans for acknowledging the true roots of their land cause tainos are the original owners of these islands,not spaniards and not even blacks,for a long time the people of these islands always represented the caribe with african and spanish roots,these roots are not even original to these islands,the spaniards have mislead people writing and conspiring history to their convenience and denying and opressing the native roots of these islands cause they know they are the true owners
aromadti 2 years ago
Taino's were the people who dominated the antellies. Long story short, Spain enslaved the taino's and cross bred with them. So if you are Cuban Puerto Rican, Dominican, or even Columbian, chances are you probably have some trace of Taino in you're DNA. Does that make you Taino?? Not really, unless you really wanna get in touch with you're deep roots. The years of cross mixing with Africa, European, "Latino" blood will make it very difficult to dicifer
cristian102 2 years ago
do the study on how much black blood to bitch yeah cuz we have a lot of that in us too.hate to say we have african blood in us
1msbracey 2 years ago
Hola "pure" Tainos of duh Bronx
I think all of you should have your OWN DNA tests done to PROVE you are real Tainos and that includes this clown Perez too. Then POST your Taino findings here. That will at least prove YOU are Tainos and not mulattos with straightened hair carrying Gucci bags and wearing Prada boots.
SebastianQuinsella 2 years ago
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ALL ISRAELITES !!
WILL6244 2 years ago
Anthropolgist have gone to these island in the early 1900 and mid 1900 they to have confirmed that a small part of the population is taino. I have always be aware of my taino ancestry. But its cool now to see anthropolgy and genists confirm it. With that said just cause some people are not taino they should not be knocking the deccendants for recoverying what once was lost.
DacaTainoKiskeya 2 years ago 3
DNA has already confirmed taino deccendants. Not every one is a deccendant. In puerto rico is 61%, in cuba 33% (in the mountain areas) in dominican rep 15% (especialy in the cibao region where dna strands confirm we were unmixed till recently) How can anyone argue with dna ..
Taino de kiskeya.
DacaTainoKiskeya 2 years ago 3
they cant argue it..they are just haters..hate when they see a proud group of people. Think of it..why would anyone come to a video and talk shit about what they think someone aint...just a bunch of pathetic hates..they DNA speaks loud and clear and even dwarfs a textbook written by europeans!!!
MissJenni2642 2 years ago
MissJenni2642:unfortunately it's gonna be very hard for ignorant fucks to understand your intelligence,most of these ignorant people are totally brainwashed by euroccentric lies that were conspired in history,they lack common sense,we don't even really need a book to see right through that the taino gene still lives in the carribean people, all we they have to do is look at the caribbeans faces and we will see the taino gene, just like these people in the video, their taino gene is obvious
aromadti 2 years ago
pestedti, the only "obvious" thing here is your profound anti-white racism which is only exceeded by your stupidity and arrogance
SebastianQuinsella 2 years ago 2
Oh shut the fuck up! it's obvious that your an anti-indigenous racist yourself by denying just like the euroliars that the indigenous gene still exist, you just can't accept TRUTH! and your euroracism hates the fact that people all over latinamerica including the carribean are being enlightened about who they are, I think the only stupid arrogant fucks are sellout trash that think like you! GUILT CAN VERY DARING!!!
aromadti 2 years ago
It get's deeper then being indigenous to the americas. These so called Indians did not always live here and even the europeans new this. We are from the greastest nation that has ever existed. Why did columbus take Luis De Torres as his translator. Read and see what languages he spoke. You can see from many old books that we are Gods chosen people. Also it can be proven through scripture. This goes all the way back to Assyrian captivity and king Cyrus. Deuteronomy 7:6
ric4022 2 years ago
don't let eurolies and euro historical conspiracies decieve you, the myth that indigenous people came from asia or elswhere is just a THEORY! indigenous people have always been the true owners of this land period! the euros were thieves that stole this land
aromadti 2 years ago
Did you look look at anything I said? I'm not decieved and if you let them they will have stolen more then your land. Christopher knew about this land through the scriptures. The same scriptures your forefathers wrote. A nation does not simply disapear into thin air. Open book after book after book there is no denying who we are. I never said this land wasn't stolen. The bible said no man dwelt here. I'm saying history is greater then what is discovered in so called Americas.
ric4022 2 years ago
The name the bible gives this land is Arsareth which simple means another land. Do you know anything about white washing? We are statues aroud the world missing their noses and lips why are all these paintings smudged. The great sphinx is one example. This is known as the Renaissance period. Our peope came to this land out of assyrian captivity 2Esdras 13:40-47. Everything that happen to us Moses spoke about in Deuteronomy 28 after the exodus from Eygpt. They are still stealing from you.
ric4022 2 years ago
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Christopher columbus was confused and thought this land was India, thats why people went on with beliveing that natives were indians when they are really not, the bible is just another manmade book that has been tampered with and misconstrued, I dont rely on the bible to base the real truth, I don't believe in the 12 tribes of isreal bullshit
aromadti 2 years ago
I kind I agree with you, but I am sure 90% that theancient americans went to the old world about 9000 years ago to colonize the middle east, the Himaliyans area, east of italy, turkey, greece, north of africa, north of japan,the britain island, irak and iran,
I can prove you every system of mesurement, any method of counstruction, writting, and many others thing originate in the America google magna bowl that has proto- summerian writting . and many artifacts in brazil with proto-hittie
r2itos 2 years ago
why is it that every body is supose to understand why you ppl hate arabs and nazis but dont understand why others hate you when you have committed the same acts against others.If white ppl are so sympathetic about what their cruel ancestors did to the indians and negros why not give back what they've taken and stole?why dont the children of you all go back to the caves and let every one live by their own laws?
CrashArtSkillz 3 years ago
what is that creature talkng about?..por Dios?!...get a history book (read it and analize it)and then post a comment "white puerto rican",NOone here cares what u came from,go post ur commnts somewhere else,if u dont agree..dont be so ignorant and dont insult others opinions....great examples..they made total sence..im sarcastic btw lololol..lmao XD!!!
lolitathecrazyone 3 years ago
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I am white from Puerto Rico(Corsican,Galician & Basque) & I know about the Tainos in the Caribbean. I do not argue that there areSOME people in the Caribbean,who are in some small part of Indidigenous descent.But, to say that all people in the Caribbean are part Taino is about as stupid as saying that Hasidic Jews in Brooklyn are part Mohican because the original inhabitants of the area were Mohican.What next? All the Mormons in Utah are part Navajo because the original "natives" were? Get real!
portacoelhi 3 years ago
Were your parents born in Spain?
artpsp 3 years ago
Portacoelhi, You are right. You actually missunderstood. No one is stating that everybody in the caribbean is native american. Actually if you just add puerto rico, cuba and dominican rep taino population it will be about 35%. That is very low. There people living in the caribbean who are only euro's. But your statement about the taino deccendant only have a little of indian blood is an error. In the dominican rep. Where only 15% of the population has native american ancestry
DominicanMestizo 3 years ago
Portacoelhi part 2- dna strand in the cibao region of kiskeya aka dominican rep. confirms that we remained unmixed and any admxitre was very recent. In eastern cuba were taino deccendants live it very similiar. I would assume for borike its the same. So your statement is correnct and you missunderstood What these folks were saying. I personly met all of them. But Jorge is the one that I am closest too. DNA that I know I got from him and he actually got from the researchers who he nows.
DominicanMestizo 3 years ago
Partacoelhi part 3, So here is where we stand. Boriken 62%, cuba 33% and domincan rep 15% are of taino ancestry. I would hardly call this everybody in the island has native american ancestry. Anyways I hope that I was able to clarify any question or missunderstanding.
DominicanMestizo 3 years ago
Thank you for the Knowledge
Shalom
UPOLITE 3 years ago
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Also what you need to understand is that there are alot of our ppl so called Hispanics and Negros who will sell out there own for MONEY which is the devils power!This taino nonsense is BS Cuz whites and so called natives didnt even speak the same language or understand each other/they used black negros to interpit words thats becuz they both spoke hebrew
CrashArtSkillz 3 years ago
Crash, I understand about those labels dominican, puerto rican etc etc and there history behind does labels. I agree with you on that. But the spanish that we speak in kiskeya, boriken and cubanakan (I am using ther tiano names) have many taino words especilay in the mountain regions were tainos still live. Spaninsh and other european languages were forced on my ancestors but many of our words still remain. Just want to compare them.
DominicanMestizo 3 years ago
crash true taino and europeans didnt understand eachother. Thats why spaniords had a person trying to learn our language and some tainos did the same.
If hebrew was spoken I am very intersted in how a jewish language and a native language would be the same. Thats why if you could please email me on my personal account or here if you like some words that I mentioned I could see how close they are.
DominicanMestizo 3 years ago
Crash, I wil make it a bit easier as to tell you why I am having a hard time understanding what you trying to say. Not all tribes spoke the same language. Yes there are similarites that even surprised me. But if that is the case why dont I understand not even one word of cherokee or inuet. But I have heard words that sound the same and even mean the same from other tribes like the lokonos, mayans, caribs, Woadani (ecudorian indians) Not all words ofcourse but some to my surprise I understood.
DominicanMestizo 3 years ago
Well the word "Kan"means "yes"it's pronounce "CON" i'll email the others
CrashArtSkillz 3 years ago
Thanx. I will be waiting for it.
DominicanMestizo 3 years ago
crash if you know a few words could you pleas email them to me. If not I wi