"The SKS Rifle Part 6- Commercial Ammo Testing"

[TUFproduction]

Where is the gas shut off valve ar is that just for the yugo

[xXCoUnTeRxStRiKeXx]

@TUFproduction The gas shut off valve is exclusively for the Yugo.

[1999chaztheman]

yugo sks looks like it would be great for cleaning out muslims in bosnia.

[CharlieDoan]

BIG DEAL

JUST PUT IN 10 ROUNDS AND BANG x10 times

[kilo549]

i shot some pmc factory loads through our russian model. and it was slam firing. any thoughts?

[DynaDuctINC]

So is there a big performance difference in Chinese and russian sks's? There is a pre-ban norinco at a local shop for $225, and I'm pretty sure it was military issue, an I'm checking for the triangle tomorrow. If there is no triangle, I'm not buying the gun.

[koxiesarmy]

I bought a Russian SKS that was made for their airborn troops. Very short but great, reliable weapon. Love the vids. I've learned quite a bit, thanks.

[Lockythepilot]

What is YUGO? Yugoslavian?

[CharlieDoan]

Why don't u paint your gun to ALL BLACK color..Look here and there Wood and black..look weir rifle!

[wax147]

sux that u have to take the case out every time

[ENTERMYDEATHMASK]

i love my norinco sks but the trigger is just a little rough

[ammosmith]

I think the Yugo SKS and the Russian SKS made in the 1950's are the best to be had.

[ChrisOmega68]

not all of them are like this rite???

[RarghImGunnaEatU]

What kind of effect does having the gas port open(semi-auto) and closed(manual) have on the velocity of the bullet?

[wild50gunner]

Brown Bear and Branule are both made at the same factory BTW

SKSs rock

[h02371]

Where is the shut off valve to make it a bolt??

[foughtwolf]

@h02371

I havent watched the full video yet, but only the Yugo rifles have the shut off valve, for the grenade launcher.

[Mauser2012]

I love all your videos...

[MrBuddydan]

Choppers ,just remove the gas piston if you want to transform semi to bolt action.

[jb99choppers]

That gas shut off valve is pretty cool does the norinco type 56 have it as well I'm looking at buying one any help would be apreciated.

[foughtwolf]

@jb99choppers

Norincos do not have the shutoff valve, there might be a aftermarket one to add it to the gas transfer tube, but stock they do not have it.

[TheSuperspudnik]

i've heard that wolf is very bad shootin with your sks cause it jacked up my yugo sks

[CJsAmmo]

@ (Iraqveteran8888) Love the videos, but I just want to understand the purpose of this one here, as far as the ammo functioning I got that part, but dont you think to measure the groups you were shooting you should have used a bench locking the rifle in place?You cannot really give a accurate measurement of your groups cause your rifle is not locked down.As far as the Russian ammo shooting thru there, its all about the same anyway, the steel core Norinco ammo is good, probably better than Wolf.

[Iraqveteran8888]

@CJsAmmo This is very initial testing. I have more video planned with the SKS to include more formal and extensive ammo testing. Thanks for the critique. 

[CJsAmmo]

@Iraqveteran8888 Thanks for the response, I have to admit I really enjoy your videos I am in the firearm/ammo business I would be glad to help you out if there is some ammo you cant find and would like to test, we specialize in hard to find ammo..Message me if I can help out in anyway, IM currently viewing more of your videos keep up the GREAT work!

[tristancooper1997]

@Iraqveteran8888 hey ill trade u some thing if u want to make a trade ill trade u a single shot 12 gauge for your sks

[1999chaztheman]

@CJsAmmo anything is better than wolf. fouling /mal-functioning. just old ass ammo. not worth a quater.

[killergames187]

Can you help me?how do you remove a sks bayonet hold down?If you remove the pin to it will it come right off?Thinks

[nevadasparky79]

I never cared for that wolf ammo or the Bear ammo in new yugo it does OK, But the type 56 seems to jam every once in a while and it will always jam the extended mags!!!!!!!!!

[nevadasparky79]

was the YUGO Ball Ammo M 67 a brass cased round???? I found cases of this stuff for 199 a case!!!!! we shoot a case a day sometimes. I do not care for the laquerd cases they do jam up in the extendend mags. If the Yugo M-67 Ball ammo is Truely a good brass case I will load my own. As I have 10,000 7.62 Fmj Bullets and enough powder to load 5000 rounds. Please let me know if it is brass?

[2damaxmr2]

@nevadasparky79 M67 is indeed brass cased but it uses berden primer. :(

[workensmart]

I have a yugo M59 66 A1 as well I love it so much. I'm glade I got it instead of the chinese SKS.

[AbeGroter]

"Average" Shooter more like it. I drill coyotes at 300+ yards with my yugo every week end.

[pvtjoker777]

If i were to purchase a muzzle brake for my norinco sks, what would you recommend?

[akshooter762]

i love them brown bear hollow points in my wasr 10/63....my first 3 shot group today was about 3inchs at 220 yards....i got a scope, my other groups where not as good but they all hit the 12inch target, and all i had was the gun resting on the mag...i was lying down...that barnaul is good to, but its hard to come by here so i saved it

[annasajerk]

hey, does anybody know what sks gets the best groups?

[Makarov1964]

while the norinco ammo you refer to is "considered" to be "armor piercing" it doesn't perform as well as military grade ap rounds. It is a steel cored round and not a true armor piercing round.

[peterm3964]

These groups are pretty much what i have obtained from my 762x39 . The sks is a utility rifle They will hit what you point it at . And they are tuff as hell . #########IMPORTANT ############  KEEP FIRING PIn CLEAN BY RUNNING CLEANING OIL DOWN ITS LENGTH . THIS WILL PREVENT SKS FROM FIRING WHEN SLIDE IS CLOSED (slamfire )

[94svtbird]

cool vids use a scope next time

[Weaponcollecter16]

Is Samco a good place to get an SKS?

[wayneLsmith51]

i would say yes, I think they gfot the yugos right now right? basically and Sks is an Sks, yugo are really good though, I love mine. Price is right bro.

[silver760]

I thought the ATF had banned the 7.62x39 steel cored chinese ammo as people were building AK pistols,which changed the round from a rifle to a pistol round and they seemed the steel cored as armour piercing and banned its importation creating loads of protests.

[Iraqveteran8888]

@silver760

PM sent...

[wayneLsmith51]

you are correct, steel core is considered armor piercing, just get the lead core FMJ. you can still blast holes in 3/8 steel with the yugo mil surplus, just beware they have a bit higher pressure, but the sks are tough shooters, not wall hangers. everything is cheap to replace anyways. call the BATFE and request federal firearms laws and regulations and it will explain all that.

[GUNS4MIKE1234]

@silver760 He must have still had some before they banned them there fucktards for banning them...

[AbeGroter]

@silver760 Steel cored is awesome, I have tons of it.

[warriorofsteel01]

@silver760

They banned further importation of the ammunition.

Fed bastards. :[

[1999chaztheman]

@silver760 maybe on the chinese norinco. but wolf brand is russian. and its just as lousy. for fouling and starting fires from the steel core.

[annasajerk]

what range are you shooting at

[hawkdlb06]

i shoot the brown bear soft point ammo out off my m44 it shoots good groups but nothing like the wolf gold 150gr FMJBT

[CrystalHunter1989]

Maybe you can help me with some accuracy problems?

[wayneLsmith51]

what are your problems? email me at txballer5@yahoo,com, maybe i can help.

[andybulletbass]

Would the 7.62 39 round be any good for game like bear?

[Iraqveteran8888]

Not nearly enough spank to make most shooters happy, although I sure with a properly placed shot, it can down a bear, yeah.

Go with a .300 Win Mag or a 375 H&H

[annasajerk]

I think so I mean you can shoot deer whith a .223 so just get the heaviest bullet you can find in hollow points and you should be good

[Iraqveteran8888]

Yeah but hes talking about shooting Bears.

[decimator22]

in which case a .50BMG or a .408 Chey Tac might be nice =P

[ILikeWeapons132435]

If you do not like the iron sights on the SKS, tech sights makes a AR-15 style sight system for the SKS. I've heard pretty good things about them, however i do not have a pair of their sights on one of my rifles.

[Iraqveteran8888]

I have seen them, but have never used them, nor care to.

I like the original sights fine, although, for certain shooters, I can see where they would be good to have.

[barccy]

I put some one my Marlin 795. Definite improvement. I'd like to see what a tech sighted sks can do.

[Iraqveteran8888]

@barccy

We will see how the funds do with my ads and stuff. I may do a "SKS sights" shootoff or something similar.

[landgrader6]

For some reason I hate M16 or Mini 14 style sights. I shoot wayyy better using the standard sights. I don't understand the benifit with the peep style sight.

[SAXD45ACP]

2 loads to look for next time would be the silver bear fmj and golden tiger fmj both have shot real well for me.

[Iraqveteran8888]

Will do as soon as we get back to doing more testing. This was very preliminary.

[ben710]

So barnaul win?

I read that it's made identical to wolf, but the results say differently.

Thanks for the video

[Iraqveteran8888]

Thats correct. We have another test of ammo coming up soon. Be sure to subscribe. Most of these loads will be retested also just for good measure.

[ferret6677]

firing way too fast for groups.

[Iraqveteran8888]

"I want to note that the timing between the shots was purposely truncated to save time"

[ferret6677]

I just thought you had a hot date you were missing. lol.

[Iraqveteran8888]

No not this time...LOL.

We are going back with the mother load of different stuff to test again hopefully. This is just touching the surface.

Looking back on that day I realize that the sun was gleaming right in our damn eyes and that the targets were not at all the proper type. I think that made the groups grow alot.

We will go back and prove it hopefully...LOL

[Alexn1067]

I have a russian sks that is in pretty good shape. Never had any stoppages of any kind until...... I modified it to take 20 round detachable mags

the other day I shot about 260 rounds through it using the detach mags and I had 3 stoppages. 1 stovepipe and 2 feeding jams. Nothing serious, took me a second to correct and I am guessing it is the magazine.

Is this common for the detach mags or have you heard of this happening to standard configured SKS's?

[Iraqveteran8888]

Out of 260 rounds a few stovepipes or FTFs shouldn't be out of place. They are very reliable guns, but no one is perfect, and you have to consider that many of them are well used too...

By detachable magazine are you referring to AK47 mags, or just standard detachable SKS mags.

There are a ton of different mag makers for SKS rifles...Do some research and choose a good company to buy from to get every ounce of quality and that may clear your problem up all together.

[Alexn1067]

they are sks mags with the duckbil extension.

the mags I was using were 20 round tapco mags which is supposed to be pretty good from what I hear. its not like it repeatedly jammed so I am not too concerned there. I was just wondering if my extractor could be getting worn out or something like that.

[Iraqveteran8888]

I have heard very good things about the Tapco mags.

Sounds like you have the right idea.

I doubt your extractor is wearing out.

Do yourself and buy a can of "Strikehold" and coat all the metal parts of the rifle with it.

Spray a bunch in the action and swab the barrel out with it.

Wipe dry and go shoot it.

[Alexn1067]

thx a lot for the advice, I'll put it to use

as far as the stoppages go with the tapco mags, I bet that a few minor jams out of a few hundred rounds is about as good as it gets but I'll give that strikehold a try and see if there is some improvement.

btw your vids are very informative and have been the basis for much of my gun care and maintainance. thanks for that too

[Iraqveteran8888]

Sure thing man. Glad you like the videos. Let me know how it turns out for you. Strike Hold is a little on the expensive side, but it is a very good product! I promise!

[adearth531]

Hello you seem good about responding to commments so, I might have missed but do either the wolf classic military or wolf black box have magnetic bullets? Thanks You

[Iraqveteran8888]

As far as I know they do not.

The Norincos do...

[adearth531]

ok Thank you stupid California laws and range rules

[Iraqveteran8888]

Come on to Georgia...Well take you!

[robin6512]

missed this one.

Well done and nice shooting.

It still is a mil surplus rifle....

[jrzyboy76]

Norincos and "inexpensive" no longer go together. Check the prices on these things lately?

[Iraqveteran8888]

Gun prices have to do with your ability to haggle and get good deals. Last SKS I bought, I only paid 175 for it and it was a Norinco.

[TTok33]

Would you like to make a review on the muzzle breaks for SKS and how they affect accuracy?

[Iraqveteran8888]

Maybe in the future. I have a monster Mosin Nagant project in the works. Also going to cover glass bedding stocks.

[KommandoOver9000]

this is at 50 yards??

i get a 1.5 inch group at least at 100 yards.

[Iraqveteran8888]

yes 50 yards. This is some initla work on the subject. I know these guns will shoot much better, but as stated in the video, I strongly think the targets we were using were the wrong type for iron sights. At 50 yards, all the little squares and lines sort of blur together and make it very difficult to get consistent results. Usually don't have a problem get sub MOA groups at 50 and 1.5-2 inch groups at 100. I am in the process of developing a sub MOA 100 load for this rifle.

[KommandoOver9000]

kay.

i just put a dot of spray paint on a 2x4. ^_^

and out of curiosity, how much am i going to spend if i start reloading?

i am talking about gear wise (powder, dies, etc)

[Iraqveteran8888]

That works.

I have a little video on the cost breakdown of handloading versus buying factory ammunition. It has a basic reloading set up cost break down in it. You should check it out.

[semiautoriflelover]

@KommandoOver9000 1.5" at 100 yards, LOL, must be a 2 shot group.

[KommandoOver9000]

@semiautoriflelover

5 shots.

[Iraqveteran8888]

Holy crap...They can keep that...lol

[Iraqveteran8888]

LOL...I heard that. I have to handload just to afford to shoot my .300 WIN MAG. I can shoot it for about .35 cents a shot...not too bad.

[baconator490]

i wish 7.62x54r commercial brand was as cheap as 7.62x39 commercial.

[Iraqveteran8888]

I hear you there...

[Marine052191]

Wait!? gas shut off valve!? HOLY JEBUS thats awesome!

[Iraqveteran8888]

....  ;)

[3OCALM1]

I'm surprised the Wolf did even that well.

I tried some in one of my SKS's and swore off (and at) using it. Barnaul and Yugo M67 worked better for me. I had some other Russian ammo that wasn't too bad but I forgot which brand it was.

I haven't tried any in that caliber that was impressive, though.

Good video!

[Iraqveteran8888]

To be completely honest, I think all of the groups were subpar.

I am going to redo some of these rounds and use a different type of target.

I think the type of target we were using was throwing us off.

I have had an SKS group under an inch at 50 yards before so I know its the target.

Even still, it's something to go off of.

[bobtaylor1979]

you said that on the sks mounting a scope is worthless, how about a side mounted scope?

[Iraqveteran8888]

The side mounting POSP style scopes for the SKS is the only way to get truly repeatable accuracy, so yes, the best way to scope one is with the side plate.

It involves drillign and tapping the receiver, as well as inletting the stock quite a bit.

Needless to say, some pretty precise measuring is neccessary as well.

[bobtaylor1979]

thanks for your answer.

let me ask something crazy. can you convert the sks, in some way, 7.62x39 in a 7.62x51 or 7.62x54? i think it needs just some milimeters of room, can it be done?

[Iraqveteran8888]

It's not possible. It doesn't have to do with "making it fit" it has more to do with pressure. The SKS action can only handle so much pressure.

Now something like 5.54x45mm may be doable.

[Goodspittin]

I'd have to buy a cheap Norinco to do anything like that.

[Iraqveteran8888]

I would be curious to see how something like it would turn out. They are plentfiul rifles, but I like modifying them.

I agree...An inexpensive Norinco would be the ticket to get the theory of operation down.

[Trustme722]

just wondering when you turned off the gas valve, do you have to manually pull the shells out? or will it just be ejected by itself?

[Iraqveteran8888]

They will eject like normal if you pull the bolt all the way to the rear, but I was grabbing them to keep to reload.

[Blake10190]

What do you know about Wolf hollowpoints? are they any good? and i heard they dont function too well in sks's

[Iraqveteran8888]

I use the HP rounds at a few points of this video. They function perfectly.

Shoot decent too.

[rugerp95mx]

is this test at 100Yard?

or 50yards?

[Iraqveteran8888]

The distance is stated at the beginning of the shooting clips.

[jasonhenson1991]

Nice shooting the both of you! If you didn't hear IV8888, Hornady recently released there line of 7.62x39mm ammunition with their 123 v-max bullets loaded on steel cases. It would be awesome if you could try that stuff out.

[Iraqveteran8888]

You will get your wish Jason. We are going to switch the target types up and shoot another test like this one with 5 more different types of ammo and see if it makes a difference.

Should be fun. Probably the Hornady, Winchester White Box, Prvi Partisan, etc.

[jasonhenson1991]

Sounds good. Thank you! How long have you known about Hornady's 7.62x39mm 123Gr. Ammunition?

[Iraqveteran8888]

I've heard a little tossed around about it here and there, but I didnt seriously consider it until you said something about it.

[jasonhenson1991]

Im glad to hear that. I've been waiting for premium expanding ammo in this caliber.

[ECTBWHO]

: )

[MRBIG858585]

very nice review. Best vid of the series to date. I look forward to the SKS trigger job vid.