one thing I do find intresting and people kinda are not seeing, as much as he is out classing the other people, he seems alot more willing to fight, and the others just crumple mentally and see it more of a game, as most people do in sparring or striking tournys. The judo guy is full on and is going for the throat so to speak. That is one thing that grappling does more then striking martial arts, striking martial arts don't go 100% out of fear of injury, grappling do go 100%.
Since when does Judo hop around and strike? Since when does any martial art allow you to strike at a ground opponent? This isn't martial arts. This is almost as much of a disgrace as MMA...
@tywainwright1 They call themselves "Mixed Martial Artists." Sure, they have a background in martial arts but when you see them in the ring or octagon (seriously, that's a sad attempt to be unique. "Ooooh! I fight in an eight sided cage!"), they look as if they're street fighting... gayly with lots of groping and such. And Dana White should keep his mouth shut, saying Bruce Lee is the father of MMA. He's a REAL mixed martial artist...
@SuperGunnGunn I agree COMPLETELY with your statement about Dana White, he needs to shut his mouth. What you call "gayly groping" is actually grappling, what would you do if someone took you to the ground and tried to fight you? Also, their "street fighting" was the prodeuct of the first UFC events when karate "fighters" and other traditional martial artists would fight and get their asses kick by these guys, so obviously their "street fighting" is more effective than karate.
@tywainwright1 I know what grappling is and it's not putting your face at somebody's dick. Besides, they CAN'T completely use Jiu-Jitsu and Judo because that involves grabbing of the gi. They have on spandex pants and swim trunks. I can grapple in a fight, I choose not to sexually molest somebody. And that's why I respect the early UFC fighters like Tank Abbott. He's the man! And street fighting is the only way to win a fight. Martial Arts only teach you to defend against the same
@SuperGunnGunn I have studied traditional Okinawan Goju-ryu Karate-do, I even went to Japan to train and watched my father recieve his nidan. I have also trained in a mcdojo called "order of the dragon" and yes Lyoto Machida does use karate effectivly, but it's mostly other styles as opposed to karate. The reason they wear
@SuperGunnGunn swim trunks is so people can't use the gi against them. Martial Arts was first created as a self defense method, if one was truly passionate about self defense, they would accept other styles. Not being open minded and not seeking to obtain a higher level of skill is truly tarnishing martial arts.
@tywainwright1 But that's the point. If the martial art involves grabbing the gi and they're not grabbing a gi... the point is defeated. And no, it was used as an art form BEFORE self-defense. And you don't have to reach a higher lever to to complete the martial art, you just need passion for it. Tarnishing it is by using it incorrectly and being boastful.
@SuperGunnGunn I do agree that many MMA fighters are much too boastful, however not all. What if you were in a real fight and the other person isn't wearing a gi? Would that technique not be useless? If it's useless, why should it be precticed? Also, Jujitsu, Ninjitsu, taekyon (forerunner to taekwondo) Pankration (Greek and Roman martial arts) Silat (Milaysion) Sambo (Russian) Wing Chun (Chinese) and many others were originally used for self defense.
@tywainwright1 You, too, have watched Human Weapon, haven't you? :D
I personally think Savate is one of the most overlooked styles in the show. Even Bruce Lee himself studied it and probably learned is twitchy, constantly-moving stances from that style. The Asian sports styles have the feet frozen and are not usable in any demanding self-defence situations that involve durable or multiple opponents.
@tywainwright1 It's the fact they they gloat about their achievements in martial arts and don't even perform it correctly.And it shouldn't be practiced because Judo and Jujitsu are ONLY performed with a gi. And the original martial arts forms were ORIGINALLY created as an art form instead of a self-defense method.
@SuperGunnGunn Okay, i've showed you the evidence I have that supports the theory of martial arts originally made for self defense, would you please show me your proof saying otherwise?
@SuperGunnGunn All you've done is say that, I don't see your proof of it. How do I know it was originally created as an art form? Where is your proof of this? What styles were originally artforms?
@SuperGunnGunn Okay, now are Jujitsu Judo Karate Pankration Muay Thai Boxing etc. original forms of Kung Fu? Oh no, they're not. That kind of makes your argument invalid doesn't it?
@SuperGunnGunn Muay Thai, Boxing, Savate, Pankration were all developed in regions that were NOT YET INFLUENCED by Kung Fu, therefore had nothjing to do with it and were created as self defense methods, NOT artforms. There is one martial art created as an artform, Kung Fu, wich was then later turned into a self defense method, I just came up with 4 that were originally created as self defense methods. Following your logic, anyone who practices martial arts for self defense is perverting them,.
@SuperGunnGunn Seeing how logic is absent in your mind, all of your other arguments and thoughts must also be invalid, thus proving your style invalid.
@SuperGunnGunn How did I get bent out of shape? I kept my composure quite well, unlike yourself who could only repeat an irrational statement. You've never met me, yet you claim to know I am high strung? Arrogant.
@SuperGunnGunn fuck you kid, keep claiming you victory on a keyboard you motherfucker, go in a ring with me and you would be as useless as your pathetic arguments. fucking non-stop bragging piece of shit
@SuperGunnGunn thats what most of the little kid says when they don't have any ''insults'' left..you kknow the kind of insults that make you laugh instead of making you mad..fucking tool
@tywainwright1 all the grabs in jujitsu using gis are supposed to be pressure points grabs. Obviously not all will be but still the majority of moves could be replicated in a real life situation
@datfitycal I have done Japanese Jujitsu and Brazillian Jiu-jitsu as well as a little bit of Aikido and in all of those forms this is not true, what form of Jujitsu are you speaking of?
I want to say awesome job for the two disciplines not using full force. This is a sport, not a death match. As soon as a 'touch' or 'hit' is made, they pull back as opposed to 'going for the kill'. Excellent work.
@tywainwright1 Says you? Please look at UFC. There is a 1/2 Jap 1/2 Barizilian dude there that use Karate very effectively. Please also have a look at Okinawan Karate.
However, you are not entirely wrong. A LOT of so called McDojos teach "Karate" which is designed primarily for point sparring or "feel good" factor. Now these are not effective at all, not even "barely" effective.
Unfortunately, many people in modern society can't distinguish b/w real Dojo and McDojo.
@garry112735545 I have finally checked the Traditional JiuJitsu out. ... No, Karate + Judo is not = Traditional Jiujitsu.
Traditional Jiujitsu (from what I can see) is more like BJJ with equal stress of importance between standing grappling and ground grappling with some throws involved.
Karate + Judo is more about striking/positioning with little to moderate grappling and takedown/takedown defense.
@crib220 First of all, tai otoshi and osoto gari. Second, tai otoshi is a slam and have to do it strike ahead, not backward. The technic is on the video with leg, so it is ashi waza, not te waza.
That is not even near judo. It is shotokan karate often called sport karate and has a non contact rule against the face. This guy is probably just smart enough to realise that his opponent wont see a throw comming even though they do it on the practice.
This is Karate Shotokan...One of the best styles that can really help in real life...and yes in shotokan we have judo tehniques but we use them better;)
@momo200090 Ultimately it's the teacher and the curriculum, coupled with the individual, that determines the quality of the martial artist. Judging strictly on the style is absurd. The best Karate school I ever experienced was a Goju dojo. I think for Karate to be relevant today, one must follow Funakoshi's dojo kun, especially his principle of the importance of a philosophy towards life, instead of merely physical mastery or brute ability.
@saburexno1 omg -_- this was sport karate, sport karate is were the martial artist only trains for a compo and not a real life fight, but you always have to remember is not which martial art is the best it's the martial art
Karate has had these techniques for centuries. Check ur history. Miyagi gave a demo for Kano during a lay over and was impressed with their "judo". Miyagi replied that it was "to-de".
@MrWonkoSane Actually, Karate has a rich history of open tournaments; although personally, I think they are a black mark on the art, and undermine their core values and principles.
@JustUsCrazyBoyz Being a brown belt in judo AND Isshinryu, I can certainly tell you that THESE techniques are Judo...and the grappling in Karate is really fairly limited.
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Judo is karate. If u know the history judo was taken out of karate as a side sport otherwise there is so many sports like gojuro and docando full contact karate that unclude judo and are not based on just kimono throws... This video doesnt have anyone with judo its just gojuro ....aka point spar
and for everyone who thinks judo is better then full contact karate, good luck fighting someone on the street (MOST THROWS ARE BASED WITH KIMONO, & gl with 2 people...)
@z06tiKo on the street? throw him on the head and his done...vtw, 95% of the fight end on the ground...what is karate going to do on the ground xD? judo have one of the best ground work of history..wich me luck if you want..most of the time when you are fighting somone u want to throw him on the ground first then finish him..or if u have a bad luck and u fall on the ground..judo ground fighting will make u win..get the fuck out judo own you
@R3dTigerM40A3 100% of fights start standing. i train both karate and judo. if you train judo exclusively, you are going to take at least one hit before you can throw your opponent. pure grapplers will freely admit that they will get hit on the way in. are you willing to risk that one hit ending the fight? i would rather set up a throw with effective strikes.
@z06tiKo You are full of crap! Judo is much older than Karate. Judo was originally Jiu-Jitsu. Judo means
"Gentle way" and was designed to be a sport! It was founded by Jigoro Kano, the Father and founder of Judo as we know it today! Learn some history before you open your pie hole!
@ChipMarine Well, Jujitsu is definitely older than Karate, but is it older than Te? Hard to say. Now is Judo older than Karate? Kano began his development of judo in 1880, and inaugurated it in 1882; It was finalized in *1887.
Conversely, Karate wasn't officially registered until 1933, by Myagi; however, it was germinating well before this, under the auspices of the likes of Hygaonna, Sakugawa, Matsumura et al.
Excuse me, Judo is derived from Jujitsu. Judo has no relation to Karate. Judo was developed by Kano in order to allow students to practice jujitsu(samurai wrestling) techniques without the fear of injury. It is similar to the direction many jutsu arts took after the great wars, from strictly fighting arts towards living philosophies(do). Kano did respect Karate, and I believe he did take some of its aspects into consideration, but to say Judo comes from Karate is absolutely false.
@z06tiKo no, ur wrong. i do judo, and I've been doing it for six years. judo comes from ju jitsu, not karate. Cono Sensei (the founder of judo) made ju jitsu evolve into judo. so karate and judo are different
@z06tiKo Although they are all japanese martial arts (except taekwondo, of course) judo is derived from ju jitsu, which was a Japanese war combat technique, therefore, it is not from karate. All of them are martial arts, but judo and ju jitsu are their own thing.
Judo is more exhausting it takes a lot more muscle in carats is the only physical what you learn to jump up and lift your feet off. The hurt anyone by any reasonable steps to bring I think bullshit. Judo has reasonable Technick varied and demanding. And besides, the really stupid and disrespectful to say Judo is Fuck. I do not say karate is for hyperactive children and those loving the fight they will come forward to prison because they do not know when the fun out of children's;)
@valeriupopa2000 yeah thats why the guy gets taken down like ten times in five minutes by Judo techniques ... I am a Judo player but I totally respect Karate. Moreover I am pretty sure that if your Sensei read your stupid ass comment he´d kick your pea sized balls.
for those idiots that think this style of karate is not effective, well, this style is much better than kyokushin or others like full contact and shit
Ok, some of the techniques from the field of judo. But why he beats him again when he is on the ground anyway? One can distinguish what is and what is not judo. Judo is a mixture of different martial arts, karate also. But, rather less karate.
@chaimdeitz Shotokan karate most certainly does have takedowns, but no submissions. You can use judo throws, but you don't get any points for them. You must finish off your opponent with a punch.
@MrAristes Karate practitioners certainly do have wicked power possessed in them, but they are taught self control and only told to use karate as a last resort. That's because they know that they can get injured when in a street fight and furthermore, get killed. But many people believe that sport karate is powerless. Mostly coz american karate is more popular than kyokushin. American karate is same as kyokushin, only it is semi contact. It is also known as American kyokushin.
Hey guys, im an orange belt in shotokan karate and my sensei is an 8th dan black belt, with a black belt in judo. Im abit confused, is there any groundfighting in karate, like takedowns/submissions/grappling etc. thanks im just curious because of there isnt i want to do jiu jitsu or judo aswell
@chaimdeitz why don't you just ask your sensei??? anyways, in Wado-Ryu Karate-Do we use all that, takedowns, submission, grappling, knife/sword defense etc... in kumite thu we don't use submission but takedown with a followup technique.. but in karate the point is: Stay up as long as possible, ground battles arn't practical (if you're not on mats) LOL
Having first learned karate and now learning judo both sides here demonstrated pretty good technique. Obviously judo>karate in this case but I have to give the karate practitioner his due. He did do a pretty good job considering he probably never knew how to deal with being thrown on the ground
This is a karate match. No Judo involved. Most karate instructors simply don't teach good takedown defense. And the kids aren't used to it when it happens because it's rarely used.
I was fortunate to train with people, who were white belts in karate, but, brown and black belts in judo.. So much we learned, back then. It wasn't all about promotions, then. I was a green belt for nearly two years; but, the skills I gained.. I personally don't like comparing one fighting art, or, style, against another. My sensei, the late John T. Pereira, often stated that in such an encounter, "the first one to make a mistake, is the loser.."
Why do all Japanese practitioners stay loyal to the Japanese terms for techniques? Always found this silly. They are only literal Japanese phrases for what they'd be called in English anyway. It's the Japanese instructor's and systems way of keeping everyone faithful to them. It's just like people being hung up with lineage. You mean Joe Blow can't teach a punch because he wasn't trained by Yamaguchi, Oyama, Funakoshi, etc...etc... Ridiculous.
This is pure shotokan karate. It has nothing judo
dicobass4 22 hours ago
one thing I do find intresting and people kinda are not seeing, as much as he is out classing the other people, he seems alot more willing to fight, and the others just crumple mentally and see it more of a game, as most people do in sparring or striking tournys. The judo guy is full on and is going for the throat so to speak. That is one thing that grappling does more then striking martial arts, striking martial arts don't go 100% out of fear of injury, grappling do go 100%.
madmike1 2 days ago
A o cara de azul eh muito ruinzinho.. Desculpa, mas é minha opnião! O de vermelho aproveitou da deficiencia do seu adversario.
edilsonluis 4 days ago
Aren't all of those takedown also in Shotokan Karate, not just Judo?
ChamorruWarrior 4 days ago
Thats why I do judo ! >:)
spirititi2303 1 week ago
the best fighters are proficient in many styles, they all have their places and can be put together in perfect harmony
kensei85 1 week ago
wow for a red belt that lad is gooood !
tehf00n 1 week ago
man those fuckign karate nerds need to find a better martial arts cuz judo is owning
xkyleboy07 1 week ago
omg i didint know judo was so effective on karate thx it helped
TheRemixLord 1 week ago
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R3dTigerM40A3 1 week ago
The 1970s expectation was 20 years to master a martial art because we saw David Carradine.
The 1990s expectation was to become good enough it in a couple of months because of 'the Karate Kid'.
The 2000s expectation was pick up martial arts instantly because of 'The Matrix' and 'Chuck'.
Pick a martial art. After 30 years you become very proficient.
Just remember Rule1 (not 'Rule 1 of Fight Club'. RULE ONE.) "Never act incautiously when confronting small wrinkly bald smiling men."
Nostradormouse 1 week ago
If I were fighting I would probably protect my face with my hands, just a thought...
tywainwright1 1 week ago
Since when does Judo hop around and strike? Since when does any martial art allow you to strike at a ground opponent? This isn't martial arts. This is almost as much of a disgrace as MMA...
SuperGunnGunn 2 weeks ago
@SuperGunnGunn How is MMA a disgrace?
tywainwright1 1 week ago
@tywainwright1 They call themselves "Mixed Martial Artists." Sure, they have a background in martial arts but when you see them in the ring or octagon (seriously, that's a sad attempt to be unique. "Ooooh! I fight in an eight sided cage!"), they look as if they're street fighting... gayly with lots of groping and such. And Dana White should keep his mouth shut, saying Bruce Lee is the father of MMA. He's a REAL mixed martial artist...
SuperGunnGunn 1 week ago
@SuperGunnGunn I agree COMPLETELY with your statement about Dana White, he needs to shut his mouth. What you call "gayly groping" is actually grappling, what would you do if someone took you to the ground and tried to fight you? Also, their "street fighting" was the prodeuct of the first UFC events when karate "fighters" and other traditional martial artists would fight and get their asses kick by these guys, so obviously their "street fighting" is more effective than karate.
tywainwright1 1 week ago
@tywainwright1 I know what grappling is and it's not putting your face at somebody's dick. Besides, they CAN'T completely use Jiu-Jitsu and Judo because that involves grabbing of the gi. They have on spandex pants and swim trunks. I can grapple in a fight, I choose not to sexually molest somebody. And that's why I respect the early UFC fighters like Tank Abbott. He's the man! And street fighting is the only way to win a fight. Martial Arts only teach you to defend against the same
SuperGunnGunn 1 week ago
@tywainwright1 moves from that martial art. But still, martial arts is indeed an art form and is not to be tarnished.
SuperGunnGunn 1 week ago
@SuperGunnGunn I have studied traditional Okinawan Goju-ryu Karate-do, I even went to Japan to train and watched my father recieve his nidan. I have also trained in a mcdojo called "order of the dragon" and yes Lyoto Machida does use karate effectivly, but it's mostly other styles as opposed to karate. The reason they wear
tywainwright1 1 week ago
@SuperGunnGunn swim trunks is so people can't use the gi against them. Martial Arts was first created as a self defense method, if one was truly passionate about self defense, they would accept other styles. Not being open minded and not seeking to obtain a higher level of skill is truly tarnishing martial arts.
tywainwright1 1 week ago
@tywainwright1 But that's the point. If the martial art involves grabbing the gi and they're not grabbing a gi... the point is defeated. And no, it was used as an art form BEFORE self-defense. And you don't have to reach a higher lever to to complete the martial art, you just need passion for it. Tarnishing it is by using it incorrectly and being boastful.
SuperGunnGunn 1 week ago
@SuperGunnGunn I do agree that many MMA fighters are much too boastful, however not all. What if you were in a real fight and the other person isn't wearing a gi? Would that technique not be useless? If it's useless, why should it be precticed? Also, Jujitsu, Ninjitsu, taekyon (forerunner to taekwondo) Pankration (Greek and Roman martial arts) Silat (Milaysion) Sambo (Russian) Wing Chun (Chinese) and many others were originally used for self defense.
tywainwright1 1 week ago
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@tywainwright1 You, too, have watched Human Weapon, haven't you? :D
I personally think Savate is one of the most overlooked styles in the show. Even Bruce Lee himself studied it and probably learned is twitchy, constantly-moving stances from that style. The Asian sports styles have the feet frozen and are not usable in any demanding self-defence situations that involve durable or multiple opponents.
fingrid 1 week ago
@tywainwright1 It's the fact they they gloat about their achievements in martial arts and don't even perform it correctly.And it shouldn't be practiced because Judo and Jujitsu are ONLY performed with a gi. And the original martial arts forms were ORIGINALLY created as an art form instead of a self-defense method.
SuperGunnGunn 1 week ago
@SuperGunnGunn Okay, i've showed you the evidence I have that supports the theory of martial arts originally made for self defense, would you please show me your proof saying otherwise?
tywainwright1 1 week ago
@tywainwright1 I've already said that it was originally created as an art form... I don't understand what you want more than that. XD
SuperGunnGunn 1 week ago
@SuperGunnGunn All you've done is say that, I don't see your proof of it. How do I know it was originally created as an art form? Where is your proof of this? What styles were originally artforms?
tywainwright1 1 week ago
@tywainwright1 All original forms of kung fu. And if you're such a martial arts guru, you'd not need to question.
SuperGunnGunn 1 week ago
@SuperGunnGunn Okay, now are Jujitsu Judo Karate Pankration Muay Thai Boxing etc. original forms of Kung Fu? Oh no, they're not. That kind of makes your argument invalid doesn't it?
tywainwright1 1 week ago
@tywainwright1 No. You actually kinda through yourself into your own demise. Those did not come before the founding forms of Kung Fu have.
SuperGunnGunn 1 week ago
@SuperGunnGunn Muay Thai, Boxing, Savate, Pankration were all developed in regions that were NOT YET INFLUENCED by Kung Fu, therefore had nothjing to do with it and were created as self defense methods, NOT artforms. There is one martial art created as an artform, Kung Fu, wich was then later turned into a self defense method, I just came up with 4 that were originally created as self defense methods. Following your logic, anyone who practices martial arts for self defense is perverting them,.
tywainwright1 1 week ago
@tywainwright1 i'm pretty sure kung fu and japanese jujitsu was influenced by pankration.
R3dTigerM40A3 1 week ago
@R3dTigerM40A3 Kung Fu was not, look at the techniques.
tywainwright1 1 week ago
@tywainwright1 I win.
SuperGunnGunn 1 week ago
@SuperGunnGunn How do you win? That makes no sense what so ever. I have just proved you wrong yet you say you win, that is completely illogical.
tywainwright1 1 week ago
@tywainwright1 Because, I win.
SuperGunnGunn 1 week ago
@SuperGunnGunn Seeing how logic is absent in your mind, all of your other arguments and thoughts must also be invalid, thus proving your style invalid.
tywainwright1 1 week ago
@tywainwright1 Not quite, because I win.
SuperGunnGunn 1 week ago
@SuperGunnGunn This speaks quite loudly about your art...
tywainwright1 6 days ago
@tywainwright1 You're too high strung. I continued saying that and you just get so bent out of shape.
SuperGunnGunn 6 days ago
@SuperGunnGunn How did I get bent out of shape? I kept my composure quite well, unlike yourself who could only repeat an irrational statement. You've never met me, yet you claim to know I am high strung? Arrogant.
tywainwright1 6 days ago
@tywainwright1 You seem pretty angry to me. XD Because I win!
SuperGunnGunn 5 days ago
@SuperGunnGunn I still don't understand how you win.
tywainwright1 5 days ago
@SuperGunnGunn wohooo you won the useless arguement on a compueter arguing with someone you don,t even know. are you happy? come on kid...
R3dTigerM40A3 5 days ago
@R3dTigerM40A3 Oh noooo somebody's annggrryyyy. :3
SuperGunnGunn 5 days ago
@SuperGunnGunn fuck you kid, keep claiming you victory on a keyboard you motherfucker, go in a ring with me and you would be as useless as your pathetic arguments. fucking non-stop bragging piece of shit
R3dTigerM40A3 4 days ago
@R3dTigerM40A3 U mad?
SuperGunnGunn 4 days ago
@SuperGunnGunn thats what most of the little kid says when they don't have any ''insults'' left..you kknow the kind of insults that make you laugh instead of making you mad..fucking tool
R3dTigerM40A3 4 days ago
@R3dTigerM40A3 Ohhh he mad! Ohhhhh he mad! XD Haha! You people take this shit to heart, huh?
SuperGunnGunn 4 days ago
@SuperGunnGunn you put the effort of yur argument to heart..but some how, you still sound retarded..and no i'm not mad
R3dTigerM40A3 4 days ago
@R3dTigerM40A3 You're obviously mad. :3 You mad.
SuperGunnGunn 3 days ago
@tywainwright1 all the grabs in jujitsu using gis are supposed to be pressure points grabs. Obviously not all will be but still the majority of moves could be replicated in a real life situation
datfitycal 1 week ago
@datfitycal I have done Japanese Jujitsu and Brazillian Jiu-jitsu as well as a little bit of Aikido and in all of those forms this is not true, what form of Jujitsu are you speaking of?
tywainwright1 1 week ago
Finish Him......
Samtino20 2 weeks ago
I want to say awesome job for the two disciplines not using full force. This is a sport, not a death match. As soon as a 'touch' or 'hit' is made, they pull back as opposed to 'going for the kill'. Excellent work.
radavil 3 weeks ago
How people have forgotten the effectiveness of Karate/Judo combination. nowadays, people only want to do Muay Thai/BJJ combination.
It is indeed very nice to see Karate/Judo combination still alive and kicking today. Thanks for uploading.
rimidalvetarak 4 weeks ago 7
@rimidalvetarak Karate is barely effective at all.
tywainwright1 1 week ago
@tywainwright1 In your opinion...
SuperGunnGunn 1 week ago
@tywainwright1 Says you? Please look at UFC. There is a 1/2 Jap 1/2 Barizilian dude there that use Karate very effectively. Please also have a look at Okinawan Karate.
However, you are not entirely wrong. A LOT of so called McDojos teach "Karate" which is designed primarily for point sparring or "feel good" factor. Now these are not effective at all, not even "barely" effective.
Unfortunately, many people in modern society can't distinguish b/w real Dojo and McDojo.
rimidalvetarak 1 week ago
@rimidalvetarak wel i have a combination of taekwondo and judo haha :p
R3dTigerM40A3 1 week ago
@R3dTigerM40A3 Yep. As long as it works.
rimidalvetarak 1 week ago
@rimidalvetarak
Karate/Judo combination = Traditional Jujitsu
garry112735545 3 days ago
@garry112735545 Interesting that you say that. I am yet to check traditional Jiujitsu. I will definitely check that out see how it looks.
rimidalvetarak 3 days ago
@rimidalvetarak
Here you are typical traditional Jujitsu (JJJ, not BJJ) for example:
watch?v=F9Ifb2qr_jw
garry112735545 3 days ago
@garry112735545 Holy cow. Looking at the video you mentioned, you are indeed correct.
I am surprised though. I have never seen such an amazing Jiujitsu. Is this only Bushinkan that fight like this? or any other TJJ also fight like this?
I mean I can see striking, grappling, takedown and submission in almost one go. Just like real Samurai fight.
Thanks for showing me.
rimidalvetarak 3 days ago
@rimidalvetarak
Welcome! But don't forget about Daido-Juku (aka Kudo), it consists of karate, boxing, judo and other technics.
garry112735545 3 days ago
@garry112735545 I have finally checked the Traditional JiuJitsu out. ... No, Karate + Judo is not = Traditional Jiujitsu.
Traditional Jiujitsu (from what I can see) is more like BJJ with equal stress of importance between standing grappling and ground grappling with some throws involved.
Karate + Judo is more about striking/positioning with little to moderate grappling and takedown/takedown defense.
rimidalvetarak 3 days ago
no es judo vs karate es karate WKF solamente
andres36844 1 month ago
These are not specifically Judo techniques, these ARE Shotokan Karate techniques.
bt7112 1 month ago
that was a taio toshi not a osootogari
crib220 1 month ago 6
@crib220 First of all, tai otoshi and osoto gari. Second, tai otoshi is a slam and have to do it strike ahead, not backward. The technic is on the video with leg, so it is ashi waza, not te waza.
So it is osoto gari or osoto guruma.
belekoty 1 month ago
@crib220 i noticed too
R3dTigerM40A3 1 week ago
That is not even near judo. It is shotokan karate often called sport karate and has a non contact rule against the face. This guy is probably just smart enough to realise that his opponent wont see a throw comming even though they do it on the practice.
patriot3n 2 months ago
right. mis-named, but good in the description.
those gi's look too baggy. they should wear more gear.
jaseins 2 months ago
judo is the best
MrWiexer 2 months ago
This is why Modern day wing chun is still the victor...
People like Sifu Emin Boztepe or Leung Ting or Ip Chun show everybody wasup...
Shaolin Kung Fu ftw
Shireikai 2 months ago
Glad to see someone utilize good Karate techniques in Karate ;-)
Suigetsukanno 2 months ago
This is why I did judo
mwnt9999 2 months ago
This is Karate Shotokan...One of the best styles that can really help in real life...and yes in shotokan we have judo tehniques but we use them better;)
saburexno1 2 months ago
@saburexno1 this is sport karate,you ignorant
momo200090 2 months ago
@momo200090 it's shotokan=)) wtf is sport karate?=)) I do shotokan and I know how does it looks like
saburexno1 2 months ago
@saburexno1 sport karate is for pussys only two good styles of karate:kyokushin and shotokan;)
momo200090 2 months ago
@momo200090 Uh...I disagree. Not all Karate is sport. In fact, Kyokushin and Shotokan are the biggest venues of Sport Karate.
Uechi Ryu and Goju Ryu are pretty good styles of Karate, as are Shorin Ryu and Motobu Ryu.
Just because no UFC fighter uses them doesn't make them bad.
Suigetsukanno 2 months ago
@Suigetsukanno you're right but goju ryu uechi,... they are not sport karate those are traditional forms but i agree my apologies.
momo200090 2 months ago
@momo200090 Ultimately it's the teacher and the curriculum, coupled with the individual, that determines the quality of the martial artist. Judging strictly on the style is absurd. The best Karate school I ever experienced was a Goju dojo. I think for Karate to be relevant today, one must follow Funakoshi's dojo kun, especially his principle of the importance of a philosophy towards life, instead of merely physical mastery or brute ability.
Tarclasp 1 month ago
@saburexno1 omg -_- this was sport karate, sport karate is were the martial artist only trains for a compo and not a real life fight, but you always have to remember is not which martial art is the best it's the martial art
kurtisabc 2 months ago
karate has throws as well not only judo does throwing techniques
alekskrte 2 months ago
most of the bunkai ends with the opponent on the ground.
pamisterios 2 months ago
karate has many techniques that were not showed in competition but if you study the kata you will see what i mean.
pamisterios 2 months ago
@pamisterios Yes, I know. Example, sukui nage is in tekki shodan.
belekoty 2 months ago
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this is karate, not judo. these techniques are from karate also.2
pamisterios 2 months ago
this is karate, not judo. these techniques are from karate also.
victorrccgk 2 months ago
Karate has had these techniques for centuries. Check ur history. Miyagi gave a demo for Kano during a lay over and was impressed with their "judo". Miyagi replied that it was "to-de".
NewEnglandBudo 3 months ago
@sadoruro check you inbox.
MynameisAbhaySoni 3 months ago
Oh my god... Jodan mawashi geri.. That guy is flexible!
xxSichaye 3 months ago
Isso não se trata de judo e sim do verdadeiro karate...
carlosschiavao 3 months ago
You have done judo proud belekoty
BFC961 3 months ago
Judo owns!
BFC961 3 months ago
u seem like a good fighter
shiryu105 3 months ago
I'm actually surprised that they allowed grappling techniques at a karate competition...nice!
MrWonkoSane 3 months ago
@MrWonkoSane WKF rules allow the throws.
belekoty 3 months ago 6
@belekoty Does JKS, ive got a karate comp on sunday and i need to know asap! thanks!
SpectrumRMX 3 months ago
@MrWonkoSane Actually, Karate has a rich history of open tournaments; although personally, I think they are a black mark on the art, and undermine their core values and principles.
Tarclasp 3 months ago
@MrWonkoSane for your information karate has some grappling techniques.
JustUsCrazyBoyz 3 months ago
@JustUsCrazyBoyz Being a brown belt in judo AND Isshinryu, I can certainly tell you that THESE techniques are Judo...and the grappling in Karate is really fairly limited.
MrWonkoSane 3 months ago
@MrWonkoSane well clearly retarded because judo is throwing and ground work not punching or kicking.
kwfsuperstar 3 months ago
@kwfsuperstar Try taking a look at the throwing techinques presented here asshole before you open your blowhole?
Then go troll somewhere else?
MrWonkoSane 3 months ago
its Ju Jitsu not Jiu Jitsu the combination of karate and judo
shameemmosafeer 3 months ago
who won karate or judo?
lucasextreme2 3 months ago
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Judo is karate. If u know the history judo was taken out of karate as a side sport otherwise there is so many sports like gojuro and docando full contact karate that unclude judo and are not based on just kimono throws... This video doesnt have anyone with judo its just gojuro ....aka point spar
z06tiKo 3 months ago
@z06tiKo I know the history of judo. Jigoro Kano used jiujitsu for judo, not karate.
belekoty 3 months ago 33
@belekoty Exactly correct!
ChipMarine 3 months ago
@z06tiKo jiu-jitsu, not karate..how can judo be based on a striking martial art while judo is all about throws and ground work..
R3dTigerM40A3 3 months ago
@R3dTigerM40A3 judo is in karate as well...now its seperated on just throws and ground work as its own martial arts and is called JUDO.
z06tiKo 3 months ago
and for everyone who thinks judo is better then full contact karate, good luck fighting someone on the street (MOST THROWS ARE BASED WITH KIMONO, & gl with 2 people...)
z06tiKo 3 months ago
@z06tiKo on the street? throw him on the head and his done...vtw, 95% of the fight end on the ground...what is karate going to do on the ground xD? judo have one of the best ground work of history..wich me luck if you want..most of the time when you are fighting somone u want to throw him on the ground first then finish him..or if u have a bad luck and u fall on the ground..judo ground fighting will make u win..get the fuck out judo own you
R3dTigerM40A3 3 months ago
@R3dTigerM40A3 100% of fights start standing. i train both karate and judo. if you train judo exclusively, you are going to take at least one hit before you can throw your opponent. pure grapplers will freely admit that they will get hit on the way in. are you willing to risk that one hit ending the fight? i would rather set up a throw with effective strikes.
eamonob84 2 months ago
@eamonob84 i am black belt in taekwondo.
R3dTigerM40A3 2 months ago
@z06tiKo You are full of crap! Judo is much older than Karate. Judo was originally Jiu-Jitsu. Judo means
"Gentle way" and was designed to be a sport! It was founded by Jigoro Kano, the Father and founder of Judo as we know it today! Learn some history before you open your pie hole!
ChipMarine 3 months ago
@ChipMarine Well, Jujitsu is definitely older than Karate, but is it older than Te? Hard to say. Now is Judo older than Karate? Kano began his development of judo in 1880, and inaugurated it in 1882; It was finalized in *1887.
Conversely, Karate wasn't officially registered until 1933, by Myagi; however, it was germinating well before this, under the auspices of the likes of Hygaonna, Sakugawa, Matsumura et al.
So technically, I suppose, you are correct..
Tarclasp 3 months ago
@ChipMarine jujutsu is older than karate; judo is not. judo was formed out of effective techniques of several different styles of old jujutsu.
eamonob84 2 months ago
@z06tiKo
Excuse me, Judo is derived from Jujitsu. Judo has no relation to Karate. Judo was developed by Kano in order to allow students to practice jujitsu(samurai wrestling) techniques without the fear of injury. It is similar to the direction many jutsu arts took after the great wars, from strictly fighting arts towards living philosophies(do). Kano did respect Karate, and I believe he did take some of its aspects into consideration, but to say Judo comes from Karate is absolutely false.
Tarclasp 3 months ago 2
@z06tiKo You confuse me. I thought karate was born under influence of chinese kung fu on Okinawa island. And judo is modified Jiu-jitsu..
Matismatt 3 months ago
@z06tiKo Judo derived from Jujitsu, not karate
WenzelCORP 3 months ago
@z06tiKo no, ur wrong. i do judo, and I've been doing it for six years. judo comes from ju jitsu, not karate. Cono Sensei (the founder of judo) made ju jitsu evolve into judo. so karate and judo are different
Penguinmanm 3 months ago
@z06tiKo Although they are all japanese martial arts (except taekwondo, of course) judo is derived from ju jitsu, which was a Japanese war combat technique, therefore, it is not from karate. All of them are martial arts, but judo and ju jitsu are their own thing.
Penguinmanm 3 months ago
@z06tiKo actualy judo is jujitsu with kicks punches locks and pressure points!!!
toytoit 3 months ago
jajajaja judo is a gay sport jaja
pedrojsl852 3 months ago
judo n karate would be a great combination
555hansy 3 months ago
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@555hansy that, my friend, is called ju jitsu.
Penguinmanm 3 months ago
Judo is more exhausting it takes a lot more muscle in carats is the only physical what you learn to jump up and lift your feet off. The hurt anyone by any reasonable steps to bring I think bullshit. Judo has reasonable Technick varied and demanding. And besides, the really stupid and disrespectful to say Judo is Fuck. I do not say karate is for hyperactive children and those loving the fight they will come forward to prison because they do not know when the fun out of children's;)
AnonymeGirly 3 months ago
Karate i the best judo is fuck
valeriupopa2000 3 months ago
@valeriupopa2000 yeah thats why the guy gets taken down like ten times in five minutes by Judo techniques ... I am a Judo player but I totally respect Karate. Moreover I am pretty sure that if your Sensei read your stupid ass comment he´d kick your pea sized balls.
tillw87 3 months ago
O GOSHI HARAI OGOSHI KOUCHI GARI AND HANE OGOSHI
judopathoftruth 3 months ago
@judopathoftruth What is the HANE OGOSHI? :-))
belekoty 3 months ago
@belekoty The spring of big hips throw. :p
mtheadric 3 months ago
for those idiots that think this style of karate is not effective, well, this style is much better than kyokushin or others like full contact and shit
gimnli 3 months ago
Not Judo, just lousy shotokan.
mrthebillman 4 months ago
@mrthebillman Judo is a tough sport more effectively;)
AnonymeGirly 3 months ago
@mrthebillman Judo is great^^
AnonymeGirly 3 months ago
No judo at all, you don't punch at Judo, idiots
OnbekendGHC 4 months ago 4
@OnbekendGHC Idiot! can't you read? "judo efficiency: useful judo technics in karate competition"
belekoty 4 months ago 11
@OnbekendGHC you can, you just don't do it in competitions...atemi-waza is banned.
llwk62 3 months ago
Ok, some of the techniques from the field of judo. But why he beats him again when he is on the ground anyway? One can distinguish what is and what is not judo. Judo is a mixture of different martial arts, karate also. But, rather less karate.
MewMewChild 4 months ago
most of them were not o osoto gari coz they were thrown with the hip with a wide foot stance. most probabely an ogoshi variation
TheKlassikRapper 4 months ago
ai e isso manos vassan karate e judô ai o cara fica foda meu
lucas62030 4 months ago
@chaimdeitz Shotokan karate most certainly does have takedowns, but no submissions. You can use judo throws, but you don't get any points for them. You must finish off your opponent with a punch.
MynameisAbhaySoni 4 months ago
@MrAristes Karate practitioners certainly do have wicked power possessed in them, but they are taught self control and only told to use karate as a last resort. That's because they know that they can get injured when in a street fight and furthermore, get killed. But many people believe that sport karate is powerless. Mostly coz american karate is more popular than kyokushin. American karate is same as kyokushin, only it is semi contact. It is also known as American kyokushin.
MynameisAbhaySoni 4 months ago
Hey guys, im an orange belt in shotokan karate and my sensei is an 8th dan black belt, with a black belt in judo. Im abit confused, is there any groundfighting in karate, like takedowns/submissions/grappling etc. thanks im just curious because of there isnt i want to do jiu jitsu or judo aswell
chaimdeitz 4 months ago
@chaimdeitz why don't you just ask your sensei??? anyways, in Wado-Ryu Karate-Do we use all that, takedowns, submission, grappling, knife/sword defense etc... in kumite thu we don't use submission but takedown with a followup technique.. but in karate the point is: Stay up as long as possible, ground battles arn't practical (if you're not on mats) LOL
plowenson 4 months ago
Having first learned karate and now learning judo both sides here demonstrated pretty good technique. Obviously judo>karate in this case but I have to give the karate practitioner his due. He did do a pretty good job considering he probably never knew how to deal with being thrown on the ground
Zypher77777 4 months ago
I Wanna see Jiu-jitsu challeger that's Kind of Fighter !
Duzaogrujj 4 months ago
Poem o Jiu-Jitsu ai ! quero so ver o pau-come !!
Duzaogrujj 4 months ago
Thumbs up for the Kyokushin enthusiasts on youtube
lakc24 4 months ago
@lakc24 no...
MrSpat06 4 months ago
@MrSpat06 lol
lakc24 4 months ago
i would say its a jiu-jitsu fight
NarutoandShady1248 4 months ago
karate vs karate
harnshotokan 4 months ago
pero esto no es jiu jitsu????
tonitazgt 4 months ago in playlist Más vídeos de belekoty
the judoka is very good, he knows also karate or, alternatively is a ju jitsu guy.
cba2004 4 months ago
This is a karate match. No Judo involved. Most karate instructors simply don't teach good takedown defense. And the kids aren't used to it when it happens because it's rarely used.
HeeHee1231 5 months ago
JUDO IS THE BEST!!! WOHOOO!
greenBuddha11 5 months ago 2
@greenBuddha11 Yeah that's true!
AnonymeGirly 3 months ago
This is Karate against Karate! the guy has Judo experience or his instructor teaches good takedowns. Learn form anyone and thing!
TakeshixStudios 5 months ago
Hope u can bring that skill in World Karate Champion.. ^^...
alexmaria188 5 months ago
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alexmaria188 5 months ago
I was fortunate to train with people, who were white belts in karate, but, brown and black belts in judo.. So much we learned, back then. It wasn't all about promotions, then. I was a green belt for nearly two years; but, the skills I gained.. I personally don't like comparing one fighting art, or, style, against another. My sensei, the late John T. Pereira, often stated that in such an encounter, "the first one to make a mistake, is the loser.."
zipper179 5 months ago
is the blue guy acting as a practice doll?
lt98bl247 5 months ago
Why do all Japanese practitioners stay loyal to the Japanese terms for techniques? Always found this silly. They are only literal Japanese phrases for what they'd be called in English anyway. It's the Japanese instructor's and systems way of keeping everyone faithful to them. It's just like people being hung up with lineage. You mean Joe Blow can't teach a punch because he wasn't trained by Yamaguchi, Oyama, Funakoshi, etc...etc... Ridiculous.
TaesaVerdi 5 months ago
@TaesaVerdi because you can't learn from TV like these guys apparently did: watch?v=euO53BWg8hI&feature=related
TheRushingWind 5 months ago