Em not liking the Dr. Lynda Nead's analogy of how an what we are doing if an when we view a fat person ...female... to Doctor ignorant um when I view a person who is grossly over weight my thoughts are always the same an that is empathy, stop grouping people in bunches in fact go soak your bloody head ....
a very strong artist...deservedly so...amazing. deserves everything she has worked for...and a very very hard and dedicated artist...could not give a shit about the art world.
I guess the thing I don't like about Saville is that I find her work to be too derivative of artists that preceded her, like Schiele, Bacon, Freud etc, but because she is the more politically correct gender, her work is prioritized. Its not that her work is neccessarily bad, though.
@NotNamedJones Very true. She is in a certain terrain of figurative abstraction, with that whole visual language of the body and the grotesque that Bacon mastered-- But which she has added very little to. At least enough to call her own. She lacks what Hegel called the negation of the negation, wiping out the influence of the previous in a qualitative change! Sure, the feminist critique of the male gaze on the feminine body-- But she hasn't truly done it justice yet. Needs to push further.
Oh the angst of Woman, real women portrayed so heroically...What Avant Garde Contemporary Bullshit. These are paintings of fat lesbian bitches, simple as that. Saville and the contemporary art world are definitely moronic, and definitely unskilled. Thanks Britain and Europe for another hack. She should do a painting of herself Blowing Hockney!!
@ivneverhadcakeb4 I don't think artists in New York City are afraid of being gay, or afraid of gay people or fat people. They are afraid of artists that posses no skill, that are propped up by the elitist contemporary art world and sold to the ignorant collector, and student as being superior. Her art panders!! It's hack. It is the dumbing down of the art world and Jenny Saville sits at the the zenith along with Koons and all the other inflated non talents. It's B.S and i'm callin it out!
@junfanjkjd Usually calling something out means making an argument. The "that's bullshit!" mode of emoting-- in the rather cuntish way you've employed it-- is as impotent as whinging about "fat lesbian bitches."
@agapeiron I'm stating truth you English Jack ass! She's bullshit and her paintings are bullshit and she knows it. She is a pandering bitch artist and sucks the scaly demonic cock of the art elite! Art that panders is the worst and she's a hack. Your "cuntish" English language tells me you are emotionally attached to her, English or actually her or her girlfriend. I'll give you a dose of New York reality and sum up her, her boring paintings and her pandering art in 1 word - CUNTISH!
@junfanjkjd No, I was born in Boston and believe in telling New York cunts that they're cunts when they're being cuntish. Though I will present you with a fun fucking fact: we Americans speak the English language, too. It's true..
But I love how you still haven't even pretended to make a concrete argument about her actual paintings outside of abstract (cuntish) blathering about "pandering" to a cultural elite. You rail against "bullshit" and "elites"-- More like Tea Party lingo! Cumgullet!
@agapeiron Oh so you're an Irish Boston cunt who lives in England. Dykes and the English use the word cuntish! A Jenny Saville fan, like being a fan of Carrot Top. tea Party? her art is Corporate u jack ass. Here's my Argument for Saville, she and you "The Cunt " should stare at the sheer power and proficiency of Caravaggio and Rembrandt and Know deep in her heart she is an Inferior artist. She Sucks Satans cock !! Don't be a fan of someone cause you and they lick pussy! Kill yourself!
@junfanjkjd Well, one doesn't need to look at a Rembrandt or a Caravaggio to know her work is totally inferior. Why would I claim otherwise? I've made a remark below about her being a one trick pony.
And no I'm not from England, you slimy pighole, go watch Gallagher smash a water melon.
@agapeiron Ha! Now I like You! A Gallagher reference is enjoyable and funny. I see we should not be arguing, I just do not like Saville. I apologize for calling you any names. All the best.
@junfanjkjd There's a pretty good video of Gallagher smashing a watermelon and then having a heart attack. It is utterly hilarious but makes you feel weird and fucked up for laughing at it-- I highly recommend it, friend.
-contrary to what French said, being non-obese is about more than beauty: it's about health. Obese people are less happy & they die sooner. Obesity is an ethical-problem; this 'tyranny' of thinness Dawn French complained about is apparently being confused with the moral promotion of health. In between thinness & fatness lies this excellent thing: healthiness. Anyway, Saville has done some alright paintings.
Em not liking the Dr. Lynda Nead's analogy of how an what we are doing if an when we view a fat person ...female... to Doctor ignorant um when I view a person who is grossly over weight my thoughts are always the same an that is empathy, stop grouping people in bunches in fact go soak your bloody head ....
sheriwhispers 1 week ago
Fat Chicks need love too!
kay333ate644 1 month ago
pity the focus is on the whole fat topic, yawn. Should be all about her bloody amazing skill.
noheadsatall 2 months ago
@junfanjkjd hehehe,controversy,just what she wants you DICKS
KatieW1000 3 months ago
a very strong artist...deservedly so...amazing. deserves everything she has worked for...and a very very hard and dedicated artist...could not give a shit about the art world.
jetsonjoe 3 months ago
I guess the thing I don't like about Saville is that I find her work to be too derivative of artists that preceded her, like Schiele, Bacon, Freud etc, but because she is the more politically correct gender, her work is prioritized. Its not that her work is neccessarily bad, though.
NotNamedJones 5 months ago
@NotNamedJones Very true. She is in a certain terrain of figurative abstraction, with that whole visual language of the body and the grotesque that Bacon mastered-- But which she has added very little to. At least enough to call her own. She lacks what Hegel called the negation of the negation, wiping out the influence of the previous in a qualitative change! Sure, the feminist critique of the male gaze on the feminine body-- But she hasn't truly done it justice yet. Needs to push further.
agapeiron 5 months ago
@agapeiron Wot a load of crap..
sheriwhispers 1 week ago
Oh the angst of Woman, real women portrayed so heroically...What Avant Garde Contemporary Bullshit. These are paintings of fat lesbian bitches, simple as that. Saville and the contemporary art world are definitely moronic, and definitely unskilled. Thanks Britain and Europe for another hack. She should do a painting of herself Blowing Hockney!!
junfanjkjd 6 months ago
@junfanjkjd What are you really angry about? did your last show suck? are you afraid of being fat or gay
ivneverhadcakeb4 6 months ago
@ivneverhadcakeb4 I don't think artists in New York City are afraid of being gay, or afraid of gay people or fat people. They are afraid of artists that posses no skill, that are propped up by the elitist contemporary art world and sold to the ignorant collector, and student as being superior. Her art panders!! It's hack. It is the dumbing down of the art world and Jenny Saville sits at the the zenith along with Koons and all the other inflated non talents. It's B.S and i'm callin it out!
junfanjkjd 6 months ago
@junfanjkjd Usually calling something out means making an argument. The "that's bullshit!" mode of emoting-- in the rather cuntish way you've employed it-- is as impotent as whinging about "fat lesbian bitches."
agapeiron 5 months ago
@agapeiron I'm stating truth you English Jack ass! She's bullshit and her paintings are bullshit and she knows it. She is a pandering bitch artist and sucks the scaly demonic cock of the art elite! Art that panders is the worst and she's a hack. Your "cuntish" English language tells me you are emotionally attached to her, English or actually her or her girlfriend. I'll give you a dose of New York reality and sum up her, her boring paintings and her pandering art in 1 word - CUNTISH!
junfanjkjd 5 months ago
@junfanjkjd No, I was born in Boston and believe in telling New York cunts that they're cunts when they're being cuntish. Though I will present you with a fun fucking fact: we Americans speak the English language, too. It's true..
But I love how you still haven't even pretended to make a concrete argument about her actual paintings outside of abstract (cuntish) blathering about "pandering" to a cultural elite. You rail against "bullshit" and "elites"-- More like Tea Party lingo! Cumgullet!
agapeiron 5 months ago
@agapeiron Oh so you're an Irish Boston cunt who lives in England. Dykes and the English use the word cuntish! A Jenny Saville fan, like being a fan of Carrot Top. tea Party? her art is Corporate u jack ass. Here's my Argument for Saville, she and you "The Cunt " should stare at the sheer power and proficiency of Caravaggio and Rembrandt and Know deep in her heart she is an Inferior artist. She Sucks Satans cock !! Don't be a fan of someone cause you and they lick pussy! Kill yourself!
junfanjkjd 5 months ago
@junfanjkjd Well, one doesn't need to look at a Rembrandt or a Caravaggio to know her work is totally inferior. Why would I claim otherwise? I've made a remark below about her being a one trick pony.
And no I'm not from England, you slimy pighole, go watch Gallagher smash a water melon.
agapeiron 5 months ago
@agapeiron Ha! Now I like You! A Gallagher reference is enjoyable and funny. I see we should not be arguing, I just do not like Saville. I apologize for calling you any names. All the best.
junfanjkjd 5 months ago
@junfanjkjd There's a pretty good video of Gallagher smashing a watermelon and then having a heart attack. It is utterly hilarious but makes you feel weird and fucked up for laughing at it-- I highly recommend it, friend.
agapeiron 5 months ago
@agapeiron The last sentence is funny and the rest of it *lewd-I-crous*.
neoren999 4 months ago
her later work is much better
fantastic painter, better than freud
mittROMNEY666 6 months ago
Sensational, horrible documentary about art that makes it hard to take the subject seriously.
Mangina9000 7 months ago
Importante la obra de Jenny Saville
controversial
Hieronimusbosco 8 months ago
-contrary to what French said, being non-obese is about more than beauty: it's about health. Obese people are less happy & they die sooner. Obesity is an ethical-problem; this 'tyranny' of thinness Dawn French complained about is apparently being confused with the moral promotion of health. In between thinness & fatness lies this excellent thing: healthiness. Anyway, Saville has done some alright paintings.
tobynsaunders 10 months ago
type in arts and parts saville and smith
androidsinagony 10 months ago 2
saville has truly inspired me in so many artistic ways.
JigglyBrain 10 months ago 2
great to see this! she doesn't seem to let herself get on camera very often. does anyone know when the interview was made?
TheBrutumFulmen 10 months ago
I have been looking for this documentary thanks for uploading.
socal1985 11 months ago