good work ccw! be good to hear the result at some time! can't people understand that 24 watts thru them isn't gunna shake anything loose? i do get that this is an experiment on a low budget & with 2nd hand ply. i dunno how many times you're gonna have to repeat yourself! some of these dickheads must think you have to have a thousand watt amp to be able to hear it! ignore the -ve comments mate! i guarantee most of those guys have never built one.
@niftynev2005 Thanks for all that, yse I must do a follow up video - alas I better hurry up as my son got fed up of his car breaking down and has just bought himself a Prius (cos his dad has one and it never goes wrong), so I better hurry up before the car its in goes....
Great job in building this. Serious kuddos. The reason I say this is because about 2 months ago, I became inspired to create my own version of this transmission line, and after crafting it with cardboard, my initial idea was almost identical to your design. Weird..my transmission is vertical in nature, choking the aperture from a 5" to 2" with a possible bass reflex built inside the cabinet wired out of phase with around a 6" port. 2 - 5" with 1 - 2 1/2" tweeter...it's gonna be awesome.
The largest issue with this enclosure is going to be the build accuracy (cuts that line up properly and don't leak) and yet an even bigger problem is the wood that was selected for the project. It is VERY thin for any speaker, let alone a woofer/subwoofer setup. I'm certain there will be a ton of box resonance with this setup. Aside from that. I like the idea of experimenting with audio. It's really the best way to learn! Thanks for the vid! Try 3/4" mdf next time. :)
@criticallistenphile I had lots of fun sealing the line! It doesn't rattle - only because of the basic 20watts a side. Sounds much better then it should. MDF would be better, and I'd make the line and the sides out of one long strip cut to size - so evweything is exactly the same width. Rounded corners on the line might help too - think Bose Acoustiwave radio...
@sspaz1984 It's not as loud as it would be with bigger tunnels, but the low frequency sounds escape nicely - so the deep bass comes through which is nice. It's ok with a basic 20w per channel amp - a bigger amp would require a more heavilly built box
Please don't let this Guy pick up anymore tools. Which program did you use to design and build this enclosure? I've never seen a design like this.....TL with passive radiators. looks more like a long ass port.
@serdar368 It was mainly made from scrap after the DIY store had run out of thicker ply - it does work and no rattles! But then it's only 20watts a side :)
you spent all that time making a proper cab and put shitty soundlab drivers in it .... you will never have optimal sound using cheap drivers & an over comlex design
if u know about sound u should round out the corners there is too many sharp corners where sound can get trapped or interuppted. and the wood is too thin.
how youve gone about making the t-lane route =fail
seriously set away from the tools, get some one to build you one
that wood will flex massively. i wouldn't be surprised if you blow the walls out and also id like to see that be air tight and how your going to attempt to remove the subs when you decide to change them, or if you ever need to recone.
@vikkiandbradley07 But apart from the above, you like it! ;-)) This box will never be reconed, if it fails, we'll chuck it out, it's built from scrap anyway after the diy shop had run out of the correct thicker wood, we built it from what we had, to seal the internal baffles, the lid was lined with a thin sheet of polystirene and just screwed on. Its not supposed to work but it does! Probably cos its only 20 watts a side.
@SuperSexyTasty It's not cardboard, its ply. Mids are stiff enough to handle the pressure waves off the 20 watt bass drivers, with 200w drivers, the mids would need their own box.
@ChuffChuffWoo You seriously believe 200watts speakers can/will play louder than 20watts speakers? Its the AMPLIFIER that decides how much watt goes through your speakers, not the rating of the speakers themselves. Get a wall/box for the midranges! ;-)
@PJRehlaender No - normal sterio. Re: the comment "wouldn't that sound worse then intended" No I intended it to sound terrible but it didn't sound worse! ;-))
umm. it might be out of phase if you could hear both the back and front of the speaker driver. when your standing infront of a speaker you cant hear the back. therefore there is no interruption or phasing.
@ChuffChuffWoo Ok... he has a small engine and he wants a subwoofer thats light... I get that part, but that means his car wont work if he has a passenger with him or what? I mean i have a pretty big woofer in my car and its not even half the weight of a person... It seems like it could be alot better if you would just make it stronger and use a bigger woofer. Like a 10" or so.
@thano111 Alas lack of space ment that this was a bit of an experiment as we didn't have the space for a 'proper' TL. Works well on 24watts per side - wouldn't handle high power.
Since they are in the same enclosure, have you noticed the back wave from the woofer interfering with the mid at all? Not the air pressure, but the actual sound wave causing distortion in the mid band frequencies. I guess it would depend on what the crossover point is.
@nuttertube Probably would sound better with seperate enclosures but no, mind you, can anything make the stuff 18 year olds play these days sound better....!
@ProSoundXD The close baffle limits cone movement, reducing mid bass in favour of deep base, so yes not efficient, but actually sounds ok on a cheap setup.
@DjErryl I was worried about that but the mids are very stiff so don't notice the bass - this is not a high power setup - 20ish watts per side, the idea was to get more efficient bass from the power we had. We're getting away with the thin ply and other shortcomings on account of the modest power. At 200 watts it would all fall apart.
Yes they probably are - especially near the speaker end - the DIY store had sold out of the thicker plywood that we wanted, so we built it with the thinner stuff they did have - seems to work ok.
seems like a $25 sheet of 3/4" MDF is a small investment..
jdchmiel 1 day ago
@jdchmiel The store had run out, so fancied giving the thinner stuff a try - works fine on 20 watts a side
ChuffChuffWoo 20 hours ago
гений просто, наделал сумасшедших лабиринтов из фанеры толщиной с бумагу )), интересно как он все эти ходы рассчитал...
MrLordKau 1 week ago
crazy box
GhettoInnovationsDX 1 week ago
nai golqmata prostotiq ....( very stupid )
Fo0oxify 3 weeks ago
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I used to be an adventurer like you... then I took an arrow to the knee
Lilmafia19 1 month ago
And them speakers r junk
ZIZZLEDOG 1 month ago
@ZIZZLEDOG AWe use all the best quality stuff here at Creative Realistic Audio Products! :-))
ChuffChuffWoo 1 month ago
@chas99950 Too much damping to be a tuned pipe, tuned pipe would need to be stright, or with sweeping bends like a trumpet, not square corners.
ChuffChuffWoo 1 month ago
good work ccw! be good to hear the result at some time! can't people understand that 24 watts thru them isn't gunna shake anything loose? i do get that this is an experiment on a low budget & with 2nd hand ply. i dunno how many times you're gonna have to repeat yourself! some of these dickheads must think you have to have a thousand watt amp to be able to hear it! ignore the -ve comments mate! i guarantee most of those guys have never built one.
niftynev2005 1 month ago
@niftynev2005 Thanks for all that, yse I must do a follow up video - alas I better hurry up as my son got fed up of his car breaking down and has just bought himself a Prius (cos his dad has one and it never goes wrong), so I better hurry up before the car its in goes....
ChuffChuffWoo 1 month ago
Warum hast du nicht gleich pappe genommen?
SchwerMetallMann 2 months ago
que merda
TECHNODANCEGLO 2 months ago
srsly ?? xD
eq888 2 months ago
Looks like a maze in there.
Thesquarewave 2 months ago
Nice try for experimental purpose. You'll get too much reflection back to the driver from inside. The cabinet shall be sounding too.
Mikexception 2 months ago
Great job in building this. Serious kuddos. The reason I say this is because about 2 months ago, I became inspired to create my own version of this transmission line, and after crafting it with cardboard, my initial idea was almost identical to your design. Weird..my transmission is vertical in nature, choking the aperture from a 5" to 2" with a possible bass reflex built inside the cabinet wired out of phase with around a 6" port. 2 - 5" with 1 - 2 1/2" tweeter...it's gonna be awesome.
J
amount811 2 months ago
@amount811 Sounds impressive! Will be interesting to hear how it goes....
ChuffChuffWoo 2 months ago
I feel like a mouse looking at it.
Fruitypuddinpops 3 months ago
Wrong build ,you need MDF
KJDJBeatsOfficial 3 months ago 2
@KJDJBeatsOfficial Agreed - but a had a pile of scrap wood and elcheapo speakers - so we built this 'just to see what would happen' :)
ChuffChuffWoo 3 months ago 7
The largest issue with this enclosure is going to be the build accuracy (cuts that line up properly and don't leak) and yet an even bigger problem is the wood that was selected for the project. It is VERY thin for any speaker, let alone a woofer/subwoofer setup. I'm certain there will be a ton of box resonance with this setup. Aside from that. I like the idea of experimenting with audio. It's really the best way to learn! Thanks for the vid! Try 3/4" mdf next time. :)
criticallistenphile 3 months ago
@criticallistenphile I had lots of fun sealing the line! It doesn't rattle - only because of the basic 20watts a side. Sounds much better then it should. MDF would be better, and I'd make the line and the sides out of one long strip cut to size - so evweything is exactly the same width. Rounded corners on the line might help too - think Bose Acoustiwave radio...
ChuffChuffWoo 3 months ago
great box design but the gaps are not to small?,won't the speakers push too much air for the wood to handle....
sspaz1984 3 months ago
@sspaz1984 It's not as loud as it would be with bigger tunnels, but the low frequency sounds escape nicely - so the deep bass comes through which is nice. It's ok with a basic 20w per channel amp - a bigger amp would require a more heavilly built box
ChuffChuffWoo 3 months ago
looks like something Bose would design.
ecoots 3 months ago
@ecoots THANK YOU!!!! Nice to know someone 'gets it'...!
ChuffChuffWoo 3 months ago
Please don't let this Guy pick up anymore tools. Which program did you use to design and build this enclosure? I've never seen a design like this.....TL with passive radiators. looks more like a long ass port.
Fabrication254 3 months ago
@Fabrication254 Nice to have so many people admiring my design! ;-)) No passive radatiors, port not yet cut out of the box....
ChuffChuffWoo 3 months ago
@Fabrication254 LOL!!! I was gonna say is this a parody skit ? wtf?
aLocoCooKoo 3 months ago
@aLocoCooKo Another admirer of my fine TL bass box ;-))
ChuffChuffWoo 3 months ago
что за говняшница?
jekasiv 3 months ago
LOL that material!
MrM4z4 3 months ago
@MrM4z4 A most fine and handsome cabnet don't you think?? ;)
ChuffChuffWoo 3 months ago
but you don't take the best wood ! ..
serdar368 3 months ago
@serdar368 It was mainly made from scrap after the DIY store had run out of thicker ply - it does work and no rattles! But then it's only 20watts a side :)
ChuffChuffWoo 3 months ago
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serdar368 3 months ago
@ChuffChuffWoo
I think it's better so , I use MDF .. It's the best wood for subwoofers ! I don't taste a case like that
serdar368 3 months ago
@serdar368 Yes MDF is ideal, so is chipboard - both very 'dead' so less prone to resonences.
ChuffChuffWoo 3 months ago
@ChuffChuffWoo
Ok , i don't know what you're write there^^, good luck whit your woofer :)
serdar368 3 months ago
you spent all that time making a proper cab and put shitty soundlab drivers in it .... you will never have optimal sound using cheap drivers & an over comlex design
ravingking 3 months ago
@ravingking At 20 watts a channel, it doesn't need fancy drivers or massively thick timber.
ChuffChuffWoo 3 months ago
if u know about sound u should round out the corners there is too many sharp corners where sound can get trapped or interuppted. and the wood is too thin.
L00peey 3 months ago
que pedo con tu laverinto we mal pedo :D
Ater100100 3 months ago
Don't know if it will work... haven't built one before nobody knows....
What poppycock.... they have books out there on how to build a proper box for subwoofers.
LordToxygene 3 months ago
@LordToxygene Yes BASS REFLEX 'bang boxes' not TL designs of which this one is a fine example
ChuffChuffWoo 3 months ago
it's probably best to keep it sealed. it should work well on a PC :)
vlaoo 3 months ago
@vlaoo People are really liking the design - keep the comments coming! :-)
ChuffChuffWoo 3 months ago
Agreed.. POOR design.. like he says.. keep trying..
CLEMATISREISS1 3 months ago
I know the brand name of this speaker....it's CRAP
MelleTwaklapper 3 months ago
@MelleTwaklapper CORRECT! It stands for "Creative Relistic Audio Products" ;-))
ChuffChuffWoo 3 months ago 8
@ChuffChuffWoo
Ok, i give you the creative part....
Goodluck with it ;-)
MelleTwaklapper 3 months ago
if anyone watching this video is actually looking to build a box, do the exact opposite of everything this guy does.
IMI4tth3w 3 months ago
@IMI4tth3w But apart from that, you like the design ;-))
ChuffChuffWoo 3 months ago
@IMI4tth3w fuck u go to hell this guy is awsome
279spirit 3 months ago
wood thickness = fail
fixing sub inside the box = fail
how you've made the box = fail
fitting tweeters in a sub box = fail
how youve gone about making the t-lane route =fail
seriously set away from the tools, get some one to build you one
that wood will flex massively. i wouldn't be surprised if you blow the walls out and also id like to see that be air tight and how your going to attempt to remove the subs when you decide to change them, or if you ever need to recone.
good luck any way.....
vikkiandbradley07 3 months ago
@vikkiandbradley07 But apart from the above, you like it! ;-)) This box will never be reconed, if it fails, we'll chuck it out, it's built from scrap anyway after the diy shop had run out of the correct thicker wood, we built it from what we had, to seal the internal baffles, the lid was lined with a thin sheet of polystirene and just screwed on. Its not supposed to work but it does! Probably cos its only 20 watts a side.
ChuffChuffWoo 3 months ago
JUST BUY A DAMN PHASE INVERTER!!
TheRumpletiltskin 3 months ago
@TheRumpletiltskin To do what??
ChuffChuffWoo 3 months ago
@ChuffChuffWoo to put the sound wave back in phase, no need for a giant maze...
TheRumpletiltskin 3 months ago
@TheRumpletiltskin Both drivers are in phase, the port was cut in the box later - it's between the tweeters
ChuffChuffWoo 3 months ago
@SuperSexyTasty It's not cardboard, its ply. Mids are stiff enough to handle the pressure waves off the 20 watt bass drivers, with 200w drivers, the mids would need their own box.
ChuffChuffWoo 3 months ago
@ChuffChuffWoo You seriously believe 200watts speakers can/will play louder than 20watts speakers? Its the AMPLIFIER that decides how much watt goes through your speakers, not the rating of the speakers themselves. Get a wall/box for the midranges! ;-)
TransMediaStr 3 months ago
im guessing its a pull push config.? if its a push pull, wouldnt that sound worse then intended?
PJRehlaender 3 months ago
@PJRehlaender No - normal sterio
ChuffChuffWoo 3 months ago
@PJRehlaender No - normal sterio. Re: the comment "wouldn't that sound worse then intended" No I intended it to sound terrible but it didn't sound worse! ;-))
ChuffChuffWoo 3 months ago
Holy shit lmfao
jasong2xaccount 3 months ago
a maze box lol
peterbloss 4 months ago
umm. it might be out of phase if you could hear both the back and front of the speaker driver. when your standing infront of a speaker you cant hear the back. therefore there is no interruption or phasing.
jtspitfire 4 months ago
ahahah qualità del suono.. SCARSA.. non si fanno con pezzi di compensato le casse ma ben si di mdf almeno di 19 mm.
MegaMarcolino93 4 months ago
i'd never build an closed T-line but sounds amzing for sure HAHAHA xD
casemodder89 4 months ago
@casemodder89 The port was cut our after this video was made.
ChuffChuffWoo 4 months ago 2
nice home for my rats
Fantasy91000 4 months ago
It seems maze
TheMateuszin 4 months ago
it will brake when you are gonna lift it....
alie480 4 months ago
@alie480 actually its quite strong - but it's only 20 watts per side so I get away with thin wood...
ChuffChuffWoo 4 months ago
@MIKEFROSTED Guess you like the design then!! ;-))
ChuffChuffWoo 4 months ago
Maybe its stiffer than it looks. I bet the box is light as he'll lol
bigdee2189 4 months ago
@bigdee2189 Yes my son was worried about the weight - his car only has a tiddly engine! :-))
ChuffChuffWoo 4 months ago
@ChuffChuffWoo Ok... he has a small engine and he wants a subwoofer thats light... I get that part, but that means his car wont work if he has a passenger with him or what? I mean i have a pretty big woofer in my car and its not even half the weight of a person... It seems like it could be alot better if you would just make it stronger and use a bigger woofer. Like a 10" or so.
prokiller75 4 months ago
If it works it works. Nice idea for sure
bigdee2189 4 months ago
Don't you think those this ass card board bullshit is gonna flex and affect the tuning?
bigdee2189 4 months ago
What the he'll are you doing?
bigdee2189 4 months ago
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thano111 4 months ago
@thano111 Alas lack of space ment that this was a bit of an experiment as we didn't have the space for a 'proper' TL. Works well on 24watts per side - wouldn't handle high power.
ChuffChuffWoo 4 months ago
Since they are in the same enclosure, have you noticed the back wave from the woofer interfering with the mid at all? Not the air pressure, but the actual sound wave causing distortion in the mid band frequencies. I guess it would depend on what the crossover point is.
nuttertube 5 months ago
@nuttertube Probably would sound better with seperate enclosures but no, mind you, can anything make the stuff 18 year olds play these days sound better....!
ChuffChuffWoo 5 months ago
very bad job. the wall behind the sub is to close.
ProSoundXD 5 months ago
@ProSoundXD The close baffle limits cone movement, reducing mid bass in favour of deep base, so yes not efficient, but actually sounds ok on a cheap setup.
ChuffChuffWoo 5 months ago
It will break first.
1BlubeTube 5 months ago
@1BlubeTube Its held together so far, no rattles or issues.......
ChuffChuffWoo 5 months ago
Wood on the inside is too thin.
1BlubeTube 5 months ago
cp its bad use medium for bass lol
bkspook 5 months ago
and also you wanna use min. 1/2 inch mdf for enclosures. plywood will create distortion and will rattle and fall apart
DjErryl 5 months ago
i made my first box that way and scrapped it once i blew my first set of mids
DjErryl 5 months ago
your sub is in the same enclosure as your mid! your mid will blow due to excessive air volume created by the sub.
DjErryl 5 months ago
@DjErryl I was worried about that but the mids are very stiff so don't notice the bass - this is not a high power setup - 20ish watts per side, the idea was to get more efficient bass from the power we had. We're getting away with the thin ply and other shortcomings on account of the modest power. At 200 watts it would all fall apart.
ChuffChuffWoo 5 months ago
but the poly wood seemed too thin man.
bigcatdairy 6 months ago 11
@bigcatdairy Yes it probably is but it seems to work ok
ChuffChuffWoo 6 months ago
Yes they probably are - especially near the speaker end - the DIY store had sold out of the thicker plywood that we wanted, so we built it with the thinner stuff they did have - seems to work ok.
ChuffChuffWoo 7 months ago
I think the walls are too thin, but please correct me
Berecz 7 months ago 9
Nice work.
magna59 8 months ago
@magna59 Thanks! - sounds great too - sounds 'expensive'.
ChuffChuffWoo 8 months ago