@21sizeman Prussia and Kurland are Vassals, with Lithuania personal union and annex by Poland,blue lines - Swedish attack, green lines - Russian attack, yellow lines occupied Poland.
Sry for my english;) If you don't understand - just write it.
Poland's NARA government would have done well to Support the Czechs in 1938 instead of tearing off pieces like Cesin as if accepting scraps from the Germans.
That argument goes both ways, you know. Czechoslovakia's government should have settled issues amicably with Poland instead of going behind Poland's back while she was battling bolsheviks in 1921. Czechs put their faith in England as did the Poles, and look how that turned out.
@bigrobcanuck Yes, but the town of Cesin and a slice of the Zakopane salient was small potatoes compared to what the two countries squandered had they joined forces as soon as the Austrian Anschluss.
Spoken like a true German who knows nothing of history but cries the loudest. Poland existed as a nation/kingdom for 1 000 years. With the combined military might of Russia, Prussia and Austria Poland was defeated and lands divided amongst you 3 in 1795. And now you make such ludicrous statements? I supposed I’d be pissed off too if I were a German and couldn’t have my cake and eat it too.
The formal unification of Germany into a politically and administratively integrated nation state officially occurred on 18 January 1871. During this breakdown of Roman Empire many barbarian tribes took advantage of the situation to find new homelands. These barbarians were led by Germanic and steppe nomad tribes like the Huns who punched through the boarders of the then week Roman Empire. Later the Germanic people were lap dogs to Rome (Holy Roman Empire) and then Frankish people.
And now you have the balls to say that Germany always existed, As what? Your quote "in fact, without the help from the Saxons, the German order, the russians and the Lithuanians, poland would've been always conquered" Who was always trying to conquer Poland/Lithuanian Kingdom?? It was YOU, the Germans, Saxons, Austrians and Russians. If it weren't for the Germanic people, your politics of conquest and grandeur Eastern Europe would have been at peace. Now be proud of that.
@GavGavNax you forgot to mention that Zaolzie with most Poles there'd been taken from Poland by the Czechs when all our forces were at war with Soviet Russia. Not even saying if we lost it would affect you too. You didn't let the Hungarians to help us (and Europe) through your land. When Hitler annexed you, we wanted to secure our folk from him in the territory you stole. We didn't take more than was ours. We didn't help you, you backstabbed us and Hungarians couldn't help us because of you.
@brosoj I'm not interested in proving that Poland actions were rightful during that operation or that they in fact cooperated with Nazi regime. I just pointed out a lack of change in a map at 1938, which I consider as a mistake. You can interpret border changes anyway u like.
Gówniarze dla lepszego jutra wasi dziadkowie i babcie życie poświęcali-jak się nie podoba to spierdalać do etiopii.Mi się tutaj podoba-nieważne czy jest żle czy dobrze.Jak będzie trzeba to i za karabin złapie za Polskę bo to moja ojczyzna.
filmik ten świetnie przedstawia jak bardzo ślązacy są polakami, Jestem Ślązakiem i niech mi żaden polak nie mówi że tak nie jest. Okradli nas, dziady jebane.
Trochę brakuje zachodniej części Ziemi Lubuskiej, tej na lewym brzegu Odry, na którą Niemcy dostali w swoje łapska w drugiej połowie trzynastego wieku. Nie był to taki mały płacheć ziemi, sięgał prawie do dzisiejszego Berlina, więc na tej animacji (zresztą fajnie obrazowej) na pewno byłby widoczny.
@KuroNekoPL now that is silliness, the word king (in europe) is a term for a noble higher than a grand duke and lower than an emperor. it is also simply used as a term for a crowned monarch in general if said monarch is not specified. and the nobility titles were also used by europeans to denote chinese rulers because (quite conveniently) the chinese nobility system roughly translates over to the european one (for instance Huangdi=emperor, wang=king, etc.) also consider the latin "regnum"
@Maetel22 umm... And? What you said didn't changed the fact, that Lithuania didn't have a King. ;) (Actually, Lithuania never had a king, I guess... At least not till XX century, but I guess, that back then they didn't have a king neither)
@Maetel22 I must admit, that I haven't heard about him, but as I read Wikipedia, it say's, that there's no evidence that he actually did get crowned. I do not deny it, it's possible, but since there's no evidence of that, I can't say, that he was a king... Of course, I can be wrong. ;)
Lwów ,Brześć,Grodno i Wilno i wtedy powiemy ,że sprawa jest prawie załatwiona.Plus polskie dziedzictwo kulturowe z zastrzeżeniem wyłączności dziedzictwa kulturowego na obszarze I RP
Tyle
A jak ktoś chce dyskutować niech najpierw trochę poczyta
Democracy, sovereignty, human rights, dignity, and civil and human rights, membership in the EU and NATO are a happier alternatives to pre-1939 fascist Polish colonialism and imperialism.
Privileged parasites who were nothing more than glorified gangster families who used force to extract as much wealth as possible from the subject underclasses.
This was the case in imperial and colonial Polish Arenda system, where the many were ruthlessly exploited for the unjust enrichment of the few. Lviv's palaces were built on this ruthless exploitation of Ukrainians.
Nowadays, all educated people prefer democracy, civil and human rights to such "nobility."
The correct question that you keep evading should be, what was "nobility"... period? Reading your statements one could deduce that only Poles had these privileged parasites living off the avails of others. Do you honestly believe that Ukrainian, Russian, German, English, French or anyone else's was any different? Most were much worse.
Of course democracy is preferred. Show me any Pole who argues different.
If you are going to preach, please ensure that you tell the truth.
Polish imperialism in Belarus, Lithuania, Ukraine and elsewhere was like imperialism and colonialism everywhere--just glorified theft and exploitation by Polish criminal family "aristocracy" and their colonial agents.
Belarusans, Lithuanians, Ukrainian like other colonized people have exercised their right to self-determination and decided to be independent and free of Polish overlords.
The Polish empire's boundaries changed because all empires eventually shrink after subject peoples and colonized nations exercise self-determination and gain independence. There is no benefit to being nostalgic for Polish imperialism and colonialism.
Now that Ukraine is an independent nation with many ethnic minorities (like Poland was) how long will Ukraine survive before the people revolt and want to have their independence? Who will the Ukrainians blame then? Will Ukraine resort to mass murder of its protesters? You have experienced murders for that, you can revive UPA and UNO to attack innocent villagers at night, rape, murder and rob them. Sounds like you have your work cut out for you butcher.
Polish colonialism in Ukraine was very similar to British colonialism in Ireland and other occupied imperial territories. This included bringing in Polish, Jewish, and other colonists into the colonial territories to help subjugate Ukrainians by means of oppressive colonial systems of exploitation like the ruthless Arenda system.
Now Ukrainians have exercised the universal right to self-determination, and Polish colonialism and imperialism in Ukraine is only a dark memory.
@3DSFuture Poland thinks that if some1 understand polish language he is from poland :D:D: Dall that 66% you sayd it was belarusians who learnd polish when it was occupied by poland in 1920.so keep your stupid shit to your self or go and learn history you fucking caveman
@3DSFuture and btw this % was counted this way if you are german lithuanian you go to siberia if you are pole you go out of town and if you are belarusian you go to city. People were lieing that they wont be sent to serbia that they are belarusians or poles so htis % is not acurate you fucking monkey shit
@3DSFuture - Poland was not only Polish, the country was particularly a land of two nations. Lithuania was a part of Poland but Poland equally to the two nations with capitol in Warsaw.
@Prozent37 Actually, there were three nations of the commonwealth. Poland, Lithuania and Kievan Rus(a.k.a cossacks) but the two first ones did not want to give the third equal rights, so they rebelled. (Chmelnicki's uprising) :)
@zadrot2008 Cossacks before their uprising were a part of the Commonwealth. By Kievan Rus I meant mainly Russian lands that used to belong to Kievan Principality. and which later were captured by Lithuania, which later was a part of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. :)
It's still doesn't explain why would you claim that Kievan Rus were Cossacks or perhaps that they were continuation of it. Perhaps you don't know the meaning of a.k.a? Why mention them at all, I mean, to put it simply, Cossacks were just a bunch of mercs.
@zadrot2008 Yes, I know what a.k.a means (Also known as). Maybe I shouldn't have write that. ^^
I just mean't that both Kievan Rus and cossacks were in pretty much the same place, which did belong to the commonwealth and would be the third nation. But anyway, let's leave this.
So what if they were in the same place? Turks live on the lands of Byzantium, but that doesn't mean that Turkey=Rome. Your way of thinking is weird, is all I'm saying.
rofl better not mention this bs to any Cossacks if you value your health :)
Cossacks have nothing to do with tatars. Most of them were serfs who ran away from their lords. Mixing with turkic people was unforgivable and people who had sex, let alone married with them were expelled without the regard of their rank. Again, I don't see how these "half-tatars, half-ukrainians" have anything to do with Kievan Rus.
Moron huh? I find it hilarious coming from someone who keep on spouting bullshit he has no knowledge of. Go read a book, and not just shortcuts from wikipedia. At first I though you just have trouble expressing your thought in English, but now I see that you are just ignorant and stupid about this whole subject.
@PvPcleric it seems you had bad history teacher or u skiped whole story go to wikipedia or read some facts about history and think abit before you post a comment, people like you online makes poland and lithuania hate each over.
@Diptro Communism implicitly gave a jump start to modern Poland in its current borders, which have proven to be quite long lasting compared to previous historical periods. Don't spit in to the past, look in to the future instead. Whatever happened in the past should stay there. Greets.
@klin1klinom It gave a jump, but it was natural course of events, any other political system would give that jump, even bigger one. See where are now ex-communistic countries and where are western countries which had other system. We would be much more modern without that red scums. I truly miss and feel the lack of pepole like Józef Piłsudski, true patriot, true Pole, not the bunch of pro-russian pricks.
@Diptro I expected that kind of reply, but I have to say - it's an illusion. The very question is whether Poland would even exist at all and whether the Wester Europe would develop that much if not for the cold war, and would anyone even notice Poland if it wasn't on a crossroads of ideologies. It's all relative to the circumstances and saying that you would be better off allied with someone else in retrospective requires major revision of the entire history. Could've, should've - waste of time.
@klin1klinom Stalin simply hated Poland and Ukraine, so we couldn't expect any good from soviet union. Anything would be better than that. Repressions or death penalties for ex AK soldiers, like August Fieldorf and many more, for common pepole also, for Catholics which were most of community, censorship, even murders, I can count it much longer. And about whether Poland would even exist, there were three attempts of partition our lands to other countries and see? We're still here and still good.
@klin1klinom Maybe it requires revision of history but you started talking about history, I just said "Bić bolszewika!" because I hate communism and red, soviet mentality. I'm sceptic for anykind of pro-red stuff because my history requires it from me for what they did to us.
Moim marzeniem jest aby kiedyś nasza zachodnia granica opierała się na Łabie (przynajmniej), tak że Dania i Polska posiadałyby wspólną granicę lądową:-) Rabunkowi lechickiej ziemi w końcu stałaby się zadość.
@kubap66 lewacki pies wystarczy . moglby wykorzystac wszystkie dozwolone znaki a i tak by nie pojechal ci ebardziej tym ze jestes czerwona kurwa !! :)
@Tomcatmiau Dzieciaczku, wyłącz komputer i wróć do klocków. Czy napisanie prawdy synku oznacza bycie "lewacką kurwą"? :-) Jak pójdziesz do szkoły, to się dowiesz, że między Polską a Litwą była unia, a nie aneksja Litwy przez Polskę. Wniosek- Litwa nie była nigdy częścią Polski. Więc z tego, co piszesz, wynika, że wszyscy historycy są "lewackmi kurwami" i sama historia też jest "lewacką kurwą". Ładnie synku, ładnie ;)
all these comments are funny, you guys dont knwo history, . join russia or germany, the nazis invaded us with surprise. poland was a poor country, learn your history. before all this tanks and stuff. just on horses,,, poland was strong. thats how it should be agian, no tanks no guns, no shootting from far, just face to face, than we would see which country is the strongest
Bigls11 you're dissapointing me. I thought you could come up with something more demanding... Anyway, exactly what I thought - you seem to enjoy wasting my time here. Well, I'm not going to waste my time on fruitless discussions with you.
Comments such as "regret you mum" etc. are only exibiting your low IQ level... I suggested you could start playing chess instead of posting these dumb comments of yours... Apparently it did not work:) Please save yourself these primitive personal remarks...
Bigls11, you are just a poor idiot full of Soviet-era propaganda, I've never thought it's still actually possible to meet someone like you in the XXI century!
I think I have a good idea what you should do with all "history" books you managed to read in your local library:)
@simaodocaminhao I see, you have absolutely gone too far, обезьянка. What, absolutely to you brains have littered "great Polish" propagation? Well-well... As Poland was a baby's dummy with arrogance, and remained. Give best regards to the Kachinsky and drunk commander of the Air Forces. On a cemetery.
Bigls11 you're dissapointing me. I thought you could come up with something more demanding... Anyway, exactly what I thought - you seem to enjoy wasting my time here. Well, I'm not going to waste my time on fruitless discussions with you.
Comments such as "regret you mum" etc. are only exibiting your low IQ level... I suggested you could start playing chess instead of posting these dumb comments of yours... Apparently it did not work:) Please save yourself these primitive personal remarks...
Bigls11 you're dissapointing me. I thought you could come up with something more demanding... Anyway, exactly what I thought - you seem to enjoy wasting my time here. Well, I'm not going to waste my time on fruitless discussions with you.
Comments such as "regret you mum" etc. are only exibiting your low IQ level... I suggested you could start playing chess instead of posting these dumb comments of yours... Apparently it did not work:) Please save yourself these primitive personal remarks...
Bigls11, do you realize Russians implemented so-called "communism" in their country for 80 years which was sickest and bloodiest ideological/political system on earth, only shortly competed by Nazi Germany, the system that caused misery and death of ten of millions of innocent people in Russia/Soviet Union alone not to mention neighbouring countries and others all over the world ???
@simaodocaminhao First, most "sick and bloody ideological" system - system of nazi Germany.
Secondly, only the Soviet system could resist to the full to nazi Germany - and the history has shown it.
Thirdly, the communism was carried out not by Russian, and Jews. 95 % of the higher posts Jews occupied, 95 % of chiefs of camps a Gulag (30-has begun 50) - Jews.
I think it's so sad that some Poles misunderstand the meaning of patriotism. I'm afraid you're not doing any good to your homeland guys...
Re communism, as far as I'm aware, it's only the period of 1945-1953 that we can call a communist era in Poland. Fairly short time but tragic enough, as many Polish patriots were repressioned and killed, in particular the soldiers of Polish resistance (Armia Krajowa) who fought with Nazis during WW2 but were now considered "Enemies of the people".
@soliterx9 It is a pity to me that you stink. I recommend to address to the doctor though hardly it will help you. I not the communist and never it was, so your big comment about communism to a place. That fact that the USA - the most bloody country for all history is absolutely obvious. Where you wouldn't be put-everywhere a grief and blood. Jews that fill the USA-most the bloody nation. They stand up for all wars, provocations and troubles arising because of it.
@greenFIRMWARE It is not necessary to repeat every time someone's dullness and to parade the dullness. Was upset, what Russian youth national team on hockey has allowed to suck away to your country of thick aunts - the USA and Canada? Be not upset, protect nerves.
@greenFIRMWARE 20 thousand Polish officers? Now I am absolutely assured that it was necessary to kill all of you. All. For this purpose there were all possibilities. That then such as you didn't stink here at forums.
@Bigls11 Well, if the fact of posting more or less aggressive/ stupid content by some Polish users would be substantial enough for you to decide on killing the entire nation, I don't have much else to say, apart from offering compassion to your family.
If you tried to be sarcastic (I wouldn't dare to call it funny), it worked out sick in the end.
@Jackowski76 Some? There is an impression that all Poles aren't able to distinguish black from the white. On-extreme measure - at this forum.
Regrets to my family leave at itself. I in turn regret to all Poles who aren't capable to pay a tribute of respect to 600.000 Soviet soldiers who have rescued your country. Even if after war you have appeared in a zone of influence of the USSR.
@Bigls11 Well then, if we follow your example and start using such childish generalisations, we could say that there is an impression all Russian are utterly evil.
As a matter of interest, do you know any Pole in person?
And regarding this bit on Soviet soldiers, I suppose it wouldn't be surprising for anyone, if I say the Soviets weren't perceived as Poland's liberators, but rather as new occupants.
Reports on the actions of Red Army soldiers while "liberating" Poland, are horrifying at times. I could go on with examples, even those which I heard from my grandparents, but I think it's no need to do that at the moment.
@Jackowski76 It is a pity that the history hasn't given possibility to feel long-term German occupation, actual destruction of Poland as the states was whose purpose.
That there was a possibility to compare to the Soviet influence.
Anyway, even if they weren't beloved, I think our Polish level of humanity is high enough to keep the Soviet military cemeteries in a very good condition, with due respect for those who died on the Polish soil.
dzięki ci za to że interesujesz się historią Polski mało już ludzi chodzi takich jak ty po słowiańskiej ziemi
Krispi0091 2 days ago
What are the lines
21sizeman 1 month ago
@21sizeman Prussia and Kurland are Vassals, with Lithuania personal union and annex by Poland,blue lines - Swedish attack, green lines - Russian attack, yellow lines occupied Poland.
Sry for my english;) If you don't understand - just write it.
TroTenPOL 1 month ago
eu2 with modifications
AquilaDestructor 2 months ago
are those crusader kings provinces/eu2 provinces?
lol
Plaskiz 3 months ago
31 osób nielubiących jest volksdeutchami
true story
screamoboro 3 months ago
Music Please ?
manik19996 3 months ago
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i believe in all religions who teach us how to be nice to good people and garden animals and forest plants .
my religion is DHARMA .
ukgreaterlondon 3 months ago
@Fimaman read a book
Wapow27 3 months ago
Poland's NARA government would have done well to Support the Czechs in 1938 instead of tearing off pieces like Cesin as if accepting scraps from the Germans.
IanHunedoara8 4 months ago
@IanHunedoara8 Czechs supported only Germans with your stuff
3DSFuture 4 months ago
@3DSFuture Jste opily', Lech?
IanHunedoara8 4 months ago
@IanHunedoara8
That argument goes both ways, you know. Czechoslovakia's government should have settled issues amicably with Poland instead of going behind Poland's back while she was battling bolsheviks in 1921. Czechs put their faith in England as did the Poles, and look how that turned out.
bigrobcanuck 1 month ago
@bigrobcanuck Yes, but the town of Cesin and a slice of the Zakopane salient was small potatoes compared to what the two countries squandered had they joined forces as soon as the Austrian Anschluss.
IanHunedoara8 1 month ago
@Fimaman
Spoken like a true German who knows nothing of history but cries the loudest. Poland existed as a nation/kingdom for 1 000 years. With the combined military might of Russia, Prussia and Austria Poland was defeated and lands divided amongst you 3 in 1795. And now you make such ludicrous statements? I supposed I’d be pissed off too if I were a German and couldn’t have my cake and eat it too.
ArcherWook 4 months ago 8
@Fimaman Dream on u retard
MrThorn88 4 months ago
@MrThorn88
i guess i am the only one here who is not dreaming.
Fimaman 4 months ago
@Fimaman ehhh.Learn history but real not propaganda from nazis or soviets.Then u will wake up.
MrThorn88 4 months ago
@MrThorn88
I guess i am the only one here who is not asleep.
Fimaman 4 months ago
@Fimaman Pop some pills:)
MrThorn88 4 months ago
@MrThorn88
I huess i am the only one here who don't need pills.
Fimaman 4 months ago
@Fimaman
The formal unification of Germany into a politically and administratively integrated nation state officially occurred on 18 January 1871. During this breakdown of Roman Empire many barbarian tribes took advantage of the situation to find new homelands. These barbarians were led by Germanic and steppe nomad tribes like the Huns who punched through the boarders of the then week Roman Empire. Later the Germanic people were lap dogs to Rome (Holy Roman Empire) and then Frankish people.
ArcherWook 4 months ago 21
@Fimaman
And now you have the balls to say that Germany always existed, As what? Your quote "in fact, without the help from the Saxons, the German order, the russians and the Lithuanians, poland would've been always conquered" Who was always trying to conquer Poland/Lithuanian Kingdom?? It was YOU, the Germans, Saxons, Austrians and Russians. If it weren't for the Germanic people, your politics of conquest and grandeur Eastern Europe would have been at peace. Now be proud of that.
ArcherWook 4 months ago 31
Europa Universalis 2! :)
Zowi121 5 months ago
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GavGavNax 5 months ago
U forget to mention annexation of Zaolzie from Czechoslovakia by Poland in 1938 following the Munich Agreement.
GavGavNax 5 months ago
@GavGavNax you forgot to mention that Zaolzie with most Poles there'd been taken from Poland by the Czechs when all our forces were at war with Soviet Russia. Not even saying if we lost it would affect you too. You didn't let the Hungarians to help us (and Europe) through your land. When Hitler annexed you, we wanted to secure our folk from him in the territory you stole. We didn't take more than was ours. We didn't help you, you backstabbed us and Hungarians couldn't help us because of you.
brosoj 5 months ago
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@brosoj I'm not interested in proving that Poland actions were rightful during that operation or that they in fact cooperated with Nazi regime. I just pointed out a lack of change in a map at 1938, which I consider as a mistake. You can interpret border changes anyway u like.
GavGavNax 5 months ago
Precz z komuną!!!
Zgadzam się @Dipto
Precz z komuną!!!!
TheBest2712 6 months ago
Poza tym co angol może wiedzieć o historii polski ?
WIedzą tyle jak nam pomogli -cieniasy herbaciane.
Progamelanet 6 months ago
@Progamelanet
To my im pomogliśmy :) oni nas tylko sprzedali 2 razy - w '39 i '45, God (bank ruler$ of the world) save the queen ;)
gabri3u 6 months ago
Gówniarze dla lepszego jutra wasi dziadkowie i babcie życie poświęcali-jak się nie podoba to spierdalać do etiopii.Mi się tutaj podoba-nieważne czy jest żle czy dobrze.Jak będzie trzeba to i za karabin złapie za Polskę bo to moja ojczyzna.
Progamelanet 6 months ago
@DeberkProductions czemu się tam nie wyprowadzisz? ,zaczeliby cię ponizac to byś przestal srac z podziwu
MsLikeaChola 6 months ago
filmik ten świetnie przedstawia jak bardzo ślązacy są polakami, Jestem Ślązakiem i niech mi żaden polak nie mówi że tak nie jest. Okradli nas, dziady jebane.
kingjeremy27 6 months ago
RUSSIANS SUCKS
CptNAKURFIIIISOFJETA 7 months ago
Opcja z roku 1470 podoba mi się najbardziej
Prezes1286 7 months ago
Trochę brakuje zachodniej części Ziemi Lubuskiej, tej na lewym brzegu Odry, na którą Niemcy dostali w swoje łapska w drugiej połowie trzynastego wieku. Nie był to taki mały płacheć ziemi, sięgał prawie do dzisiejszego Berlina, więc na tej animacji (zresztą fajnie obrazowej) na pewno byłby widoczny.
DrugiPoWojcie 7 months ago
966-2010 jak już (teraz 2011 )
9macan5 8 months ago
write "NWO" in YOU TUBE TO KNOW
PolandSlavicPower 8 months ago
@PvPcleric Poland had a union with Lithuania. Polish Queen and king of Lithaunia married :)
filioofpall 8 months ago
@filioofpall Not king of Lithuania, Grand Prince, Lithuania was not Christian so they could not have King ;)
He(Jogaila/Jagiełło) became king when he sat on Polish throne. :)
KuroNekoPL 7 months ago
@KuroNekoPL now that is silliness, the word king (in europe) is a term for a noble higher than a grand duke and lower than an emperor. it is also simply used as a term for a crowned monarch in general if said monarch is not specified. and the nobility titles were also used by europeans to denote chinese rulers because (quite conveniently) the chinese nobility system roughly translates over to the european one (for instance Huangdi=emperor, wang=king, etc.) also consider the latin "regnum"
Maetel22 6 months ago
@Maetel22 umm... And? What you said didn't changed the fact, that Lithuania didn't have a King. ;) (Actually, Lithuania never had a king, I guess... At least not till XX century, but I guess, that back then they didn't have a king neither)
KuroNekoPL 6 months ago
@KuroNekoPL i was responding to what you said about it not being christian. and secondly, what do you think Mindaugas I was?
Maetel22 6 months ago
@Maetel22 I must admit, that I haven't heard about him, but as I read Wikipedia, it say's, that there's no evidence that he actually did get crowned. I do not deny it, it's possible, but since there's no evidence of that, I can't say, that he was a king... Of course, I can be wrong. ;)
KuroNekoPL 6 months ago
lithuania and poland were allied and crushed the nazi teutons at tannenberg
RaiusFly 8 months ago
@RaiusFly I very much doubt the teutons were nazis. Especially that happening in the first half of the second millenia AD.
tibs2403 8 months ago
Lwów ,Brześć,Grodno i Wilno i wtedy powiemy ,że sprawa jest prawie załatwiona.Plus polskie dziedzictwo kulturowe z zastrzeżeniem wyłączności dziedzictwa kulturowego na obszarze I RP
Tyle
A jak ktoś chce dyskutować niech najpierw trochę poczyta
jimmymaj1 8 months ago
niech już tak pozostanie
kompociiik 8 months ago
ale poznan byl i bedzie
tomasfranzl 8 months ago
Democracy, sovereignty, human rights, dignity, and civil and human rights, membership in the EU and NATO are a happier alternatives to pre-1939 fascist Polish colonialism and imperialism.
Bosirant 9 months ago
What was Polish "nobility"?
Privileged parasites who were nothing more than glorified gangster families who used force to extract as much wealth as possible from the subject underclasses.
This was the case in imperial and colonial Polish Arenda system, where the many were ruthlessly exploited for the unjust enrichment of the few. Lviv's palaces were built on this ruthless exploitation of Ukrainians.
Nowadays, all educated people prefer democracy, civil and human rights to such "nobility."
Bosirant 9 months ago
@Bosirant
The correct question that you keep evading should be, what was "nobility"... period? Reading your statements one could deduce that only Poles had these privileged parasites living off the avails of others. Do you honestly believe that Ukrainian, Russian, German, English, French or anyone else's was any different? Most were much worse.
Of course democracy is preferred. Show me any Pole who argues different.
If you are going to preach, please ensure that you tell the truth.
bigrobcanuck 9 months ago
Greets great slavic brothers! SLAVA TO ALL SLAVIC PEOPLE!
domagoj905 9 months ago
za króla sasa jedz, a popuszczaj pasa!
81micmac 9 months ago
Fuck Austria, Prussia and Russia also fuck Britain too
K1asH3r 9 months ago
Slavens stop argue and create Slavia...unite all Slaven states economy and defence and germans and english will dance when we say...end story
JimmyBarca 10 months ago
Polish imperialism in Belarus, Lithuania, Ukraine and elsewhere was like imperialism and colonialism everywhere--just glorified theft and exploitation by Polish criminal family "aristocracy" and their colonial agents.
Belarusans, Lithuanians, Ukrainian like other colonized people have exercised their right to self-determination and decided to be independent and free of Polish overlords.
Bosirant 10 months ago
@Bosirant There were no countries like belarus, ukraine before 1990. Then shut the fuck up !
3DSFuture 9 months ago
The Polish empire's boundaries changed because all empires eventually shrink after subject peoples and colonized nations exercise self-determination and gain independence. There is no benefit to being nostalgic for Polish imperialism and colonialism.
Bosirant 10 months ago
@Bosirant
Now that Ukraine is an independent nation with many ethnic minorities (like Poland was) how long will Ukraine survive before the people revolt and want to have their independence? Who will the Ukrainians blame then? Will Ukraine resort to mass murder of its protesters? You have experienced murders for that, you can revive UPA and UNO to attack innocent villagers at night, rape, murder and rob them. Sounds like you have your work cut out for you butcher.
ArcherWook 10 months ago
Polish colonialism in Ukraine was very similar to British colonialism in Ireland and other occupied imperial territories. This included bringing in Polish, Jewish, and other colonists into the colonial territories to help subjugate Ukrainians by means of oppressive colonial systems of exploitation like the ruthless Arenda system.
Now Ukrainians have exercised the universal right to self-determination, and Polish colonialism and imperialism in Ukraine is only a dark memory.
Bosirant 10 months ago
@Bosirant But Lviv and nearby regions were Polish from XI century. Then shut up.
Crox300 10 months ago
But why you so proud for occupie Vilnius? That was the bigest mistake in your history what you ever been made. Nothing to proud of.
Btw, nice video :)
DzonHex 10 months ago 2
@DzonHex Vilnus was our city then how we could occupied this city ?
3DSFuture 10 months ago
@3DSFuture Vilnius never was polish city. It was established by lithuanians. And there lived more jews or belarusians then polish.
jowydas 9 months ago
@jowydas Total population of central lithuania (region) was 1.240.000 and 810.000 of them was Polish.
66% population of center lithuania was polish. And there were only 115.000 Lithuanians people.
1920
3DSFuture 9 months ago
@3DSFuture Poland thinks that if some1 understand polish language he is from poland :D:D: Dall that 66% you sayd it was belarusians who learnd polish when it was occupied by poland in 1920.so keep your stupid shit to your self or go and learn history you fucking caveman
PvPcleric 9 months ago
@PvPcleric
twat
jimmymaj1 8 months ago
@PvPcleric
u are a f... nut
jimmymaj1 8 months ago
@3DSFuture and btw this % was counted this way if you are german lithuanian you go to siberia if you are pole you go out of town and if you are belarusian you go to city. People were lieing that they wont be sent to serbia that they are belarusians or poles so htis % is not acurate you fucking monkey shit
PvPcleric 9 months ago
@PvPcleric English please
3DSFuture 9 months ago
@3DSFuture Vilnius was always Lithuanian city !!! go to wikipedia and read it you idiot !!!
PvPcleric 8 months ago
and why the fuck in evry video poland showing Lithanian teritories ? It was not controled by poland it was Lithuanian teritories this is wierd
PvPcleric 8 months ago
@PvPcleric No, it was Polish territories.
Lithuanians were controled by Poland, they had to speak Polish. Lithuania was only part of Rechpospolita
3DSFuture 8 months ago
@3DSFuture - Poland was not only Polish, the country was particularly a land of two nations. Lithuania was a part of Poland but Poland equally to the two nations with capitol in Warsaw.
Prozent37 8 months ago
@Prozent37 Two nations, one country. Polish was ruling nation
3DSFuture 8 months ago
@Prozent37 Actually, there were three nations of the commonwealth. Poland, Lithuania and Kievan Rus(a.k.a cossacks) but the two first ones did not want to give the third equal rights, so they rebelled. (Chmelnicki's uprising) :)
KuroNekoPL 7 months ago
@KuroNekoPL
"Kievan Rus(aka cossacks)"
Actually cossacks have nothing to do with Kievan Rus. They didn't even existed yet.
zadrot2008 7 months ago
@zadrot2008 Yes, I know, but I mentioned both to make 100% sure that everyone will know what I mean. :)
KuroNekoPL 7 months ago
@KuroNekoPL
I'm sorry but I don't understand your reasoning behind it. Why mention Cossacks when they have nothing to do with Kievan Rus or Commonwealth ?
zadrot2008 7 months ago
@zadrot2008 Cossacks before their uprising were a part of the Commonwealth. By Kievan Rus I meant mainly Russian lands that used to belong to Kievan Principality. and which later were captured by Lithuania, which later was a part of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. :)
KuroNekoPL 7 months ago
@KuroNekoPL
It's still doesn't explain why would you claim that Kievan Rus were Cossacks or perhaps that they were continuation of it. Perhaps you don't know the meaning of a.k.a? Why mention them at all, I mean, to put it simply, Cossacks were just a bunch of mercs.
zadrot2008 7 months ago
@zadrot2008 Yes, I know what a.k.a means (Also known as). Maybe I shouldn't have write that. ^^
I just mean't that both Kievan Rus and cossacks were in pretty much the same place, which did belong to the commonwealth and would be the third nation. But anyway, let's leave this.
KuroNekoPL 7 months ago
@KuroNekoPL
So what if they were in the same place? Turks live on the lands of Byzantium, but that doesn't mean that Turkey=Rome. Your way of thinking is weird, is all I'm saying.
zadrot2008 7 months ago
@zadrot2008 Cossacks came from asia, they were tatars mixed with ukrainian peasants.
3DSFuture 7 months ago
@3DSFuture
rofl better not mention this bs to any Cossacks if you value your health :)
Cossacks have nothing to do with tatars. Most of them were serfs who ran away from their lords. Mixing with turkic people was unforgivable and people who had sex, let alone married with them were expelled without the regard of their rank. Again, I don't see how these "half-tatars, half-ukrainians" have anything to do with Kievan Rus.
zadrot2008 7 months ago
@zadrot2008 Im not talking about kievan rus moron.
3DSFuture 7 months ago
@3DSFuture
Moron huh? I find it hilarious coming from someone who keep on spouting bullshit he has no knowledge of. Go read a book, and not just shortcuts from wikipedia. At first I though you just have trouble expressing your thought in English, but now I see that you are just ignorant and stupid about this whole subject.
zadrot2008 7 months ago
@zadrot2008 Hahah, so arrogant ignorant :)
3DSFuture 7 months ago
@3DSFuture
Arrogance is better than stupidity. I don't blame you though, since it's obvious that your school was rather bad.
zadrot2008 7 months ago
@zadrot2008 Hahaha :) you are stupidity. Not me :) just look at my posts, fucking polack
3DSFuture 7 months ago
@3DSFuture
I'm not a Pole.
Yeah I confused you with that dude.
You still spewed bullshit about Cossacks.
Your English is bad for amerifat.
zadrot2008 7 months ago
@3DSFuture SPIERDALAJ FUCK YOU GEJU
matii0045x1 7 months ago
@PvPcleric it seems you had bad history teacher or u skiped whole story go to wikipedia or read some facts about history and think abit before you post a comment, people like you online makes poland and lithuania hate each over.
PvPcleric 8 months ago
Is it just me, or did every country once rule land 4x its current size?
YaYzIwInZ 10 months ago
@YaYzIwInZ mongolia ruled a land 10X its current size
VaginalniPretres 6 months ago
Map 1920 wasn't like this, it was only at end of the year, then Poland broke treaty of Suvalkai and occupie Vilnius.
rintintinas 10 months ago
@TheKoxone grand duchy of lithuania
ixonixas 10 months ago
Do dupy film.
Shit film.
EU2Map 10 months ago
Autor całkiwcie pominął wojne z 1919-1921 i granice z 1925 roku wrzucił do tych z 1918
SuperChojrak 11 months ago
Lithuania once was the biggest country in Europe... Was... :(
ixonixas 11 months ago 2
@ixonixas need more land??? i give you Hungary. Poland+Hungary=largest, strongest, richest....
Plunder567 10 months ago
@Plunder567 OH YEEEES!!!
bichok100 10 months ago
Nice Vid
Grettings from Serbia!
TheRista00 11 months ago 3
poland was mighty
wikilauraanimallove 11 months ago 43
@wikilauraanimallove
ale ją zostawiono szczególnie w 1939
HaSt113 6 months ago
@wikilauraanimallove and still is
WojtuszewskiPL 5 months ago
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@wikilauraanimallove and still is
WojtuszewskiPL 5 months ago
Precz z komuną! Bić bolszewika!
Diptro 11 months ago 48
@Diptro Communism implicitly gave a jump start to modern Poland in its current borders, which have proven to be quite long lasting compared to previous historical periods. Don't spit in to the past, look in to the future instead. Whatever happened in the past should stay there. Greets.
klin1klinom 11 months ago
@klin1klinom It gave a jump, but it was natural course of events, any other political system would give that jump, even bigger one. See where are now ex-communistic countries and where are western countries which had other system. We would be much more modern without that red scums. I truly miss and feel the lack of pepole like Józef Piłsudski, true patriot, true Pole, not the bunch of pro-russian pricks.
Diptro 10 months ago
@Diptro I expected that kind of reply, but I have to say - it's an illusion. The very question is whether Poland would even exist at all and whether the Wester Europe would develop that much if not for the cold war, and would anyone even notice Poland if it wasn't on a crossroads of ideologies. It's all relative to the circumstances and saying that you would be better off allied with someone else in retrospective requires major revision of the entire history. Could've, should've - waste of time.
klin1klinom 10 months ago
@klin1klinom Stalin simply hated Poland and Ukraine, so we couldn't expect any good from soviet union. Anything would be better than that. Repressions or death penalties for ex AK soldiers, like August Fieldorf and many more, for common pepole also, for Catholics which were most of community, censorship, even murders, I can count it much longer. And about whether Poland would even exist, there were three attempts of partition our lands to other countries and see? We're still here and still good.
Diptro 10 months ago
@klin1klinom Maybe it requires revision of history but you started talking about history, I just said "Bić bolszewika!" because I hate communism and red, soviet mentality. I'm sceptic for anykind of pro-red stuff because my history requires it from me for what they did to us.
Diptro 10 months ago
@Diptro I never said you have to be pro-anything.
klin1klinom 10 months ago
@Diptro don't scare communism. USSR collapsed.
But many people thought, the communism was the best time of their life...
Muradlek 10 months ago
Mogliśmy zapisać postępy na mapie w 1500roku, i teraz wczytać zapis, jakie to było by łatwe :)
Radioactiv666 11 months ago
Nice Europa Universalis: Rome music!
P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 11 months ago
Przyjdą ruskie i wszystkich pogodzą.
rmalysz 1 year ago
a ha a zapomniał Pan zazaczyć że w zeszłym roku podpisaliśmy Traktat Lisboński i staliśmy się częscią skłądową UE
naszawaszaich 1 year ago
fuck you
ponasmagic 1 year ago
Moim marzeniem jest aby kiedyś nasza zachodnia granica opierała się na Łabie (przynajmniej), tak że Dania i Polska posiadałyby wspólną granicę lądową:-) Rabunkowi lechickiej ziemi w końcu stałaby się zadość.
DrugiPoWojcie 1 year ago
POLAND !!! The power of the invincible
mrsn1 1 year ago
let us start pooland's a map from 1943
discouniverse 1 year ago
z tym nacjonalizmem chodzi o to zeby zasymilowac ludnosc a ludnosc nie chce sie zasymilowac dlatego jest odwiecna walka
supergorky17 1 year ago
brakuje okupacji niebieskiej UE
Haregar 1 year ago
@Haregar Brakuje podpisu - kompletny idiota.
p616arsley 1 year ago
@p616arsley
mówisz o sobie? bo neandertalskiej mowy nie rozumiem ;P
Haregar 1 year ago
@Haregar Żyłem w tym kraju jak ty w jajcach ojca jeszcze mieszkałeś, więc daruj sobie próby pseudo-elokwencji - jesteś idiotą. Tyle.
p616arsley 1 year ago
@p616arsley
Po sposobie Twojego wypowiadania się 616-letni nacjonalisto widzę, żeś gówniarzem młodszym ode mnie. :*
Haregar 1 year ago
@Haregar Nawet nie wiesz co to 616 co potwierdza, że jesteś idiotą. Swoją drogą pierdolę nacjonalizm więc leję na to.
p616arsley 1 year ago
@p616arsley
Nie zauważyłeś, że sobie robię jaja z ciebie? Jakbyś był taki "dorosły" to byś dał spokój chłopaku.
Haregar 1 year ago
@Haregar Idiota.
p616arsley 1 year ago
@p616arsley potrafisz powiedzieć coś więcej niż idiota, lewacki psie?
VenomSoil 1 year ago
@VenomSoil derp
p616arsley 1 year ago
@VenomSoil potrafisz napisać coś więcej niż "lewacki pies"?
kubap66 1 year ago
@kubap66 lewacki pies wystarczy . moglby wykorzystac wszystkie dozwolone znaki a i tak by nie pojechal ci ebardziej tym ze jestes czerwona kurwa !! :)
Tomcatmiau 9 months ago
@Tomcatmiau Dzieciaczku, wyłącz komputer i wróć do klocków. Czy napisanie prawdy synku oznacza bycie "lewacką kurwą"? :-) Jak pójdziesz do szkoły, to się dowiesz, że między Polską a Litwą była unia, a nie aneksja Litwy przez Polskę. Wniosek- Litwa nie była nigdy częścią Polski. Więc z tego, co piszesz, wynika, że wszyscy historycy są "lewackmi kurwami" i sama historia też jest "lewacką kurwą". Ładnie synku, ładnie ;)
kubap66 9 months ago
super muza dzieki za wstawke
batman241986 1 year ago
all these comments are funny, you guys dont knwo history, . join russia or germany, the nazis invaded us with surprise. poland was a poor country, learn your history. before all this tanks and stuff. just on horses,,, poland was strong. thats how it should be agian, no tanks no guns, no shootting from far, just face to face, than we would see which country is the strongest
jkrenc23 1 year ago
Bigls11 you're dissapointing me. I thought you could come up with something more demanding... Anyway, exactly what I thought - you seem to enjoy wasting my time here. Well, I'm not going to waste my time on fruitless discussions with you.
Comments such as "regret you mum" etc. are only exibiting your low IQ level... I suggested you could start playing chess instead of posting these dumb comments of yours... Apparently it did not work:) Please save yourself these primitive personal remarks...
simaodocaminhao 1 year ago
@simaodocaminhao Re-read my previous comment on a regret - it will approach and in this case.
Bigls11 1 year ago
Bigls11, you are just a poor idiot full of Soviet-era propaganda, I've never thought it's still actually possible to meet someone like you in the XXI century!
I think I have a good idea what you should do with all "history" books you managed to read in your local library:)
simaodocaminhao 1 year ago
@simaodocaminhao I see, you have absolutely gone too far, обезьянка. What, absolutely to you brains have littered "great Polish" propagation? Well-well... As Poland was a baby's dummy with arrogance, and remained. Give best regards to the Kachinsky and drunk commander of the Air Forces. On a cemetery.
Bigls11 1 year ago
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Bigls11 you're dissapointing me. I thought you could come up with something more demanding... Anyway, exactly what I thought - you seem to enjoy wasting my time here. Well, I'm not going to waste my time on fruitless discussions with you.
Comments such as "regret you mum" etc. are only exibiting your low IQ level... I suggested you could start playing chess instead of posting these dumb comments of yours... Apparently it did not work:) Please save yourself these primitive personal remarks...
simaodocaminhao 1 year ago
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Bigls11 you're dissapointing me. I thought you could come up with something more demanding... Anyway, exactly what I thought - you seem to enjoy wasting my time here. Well, I'm not going to waste my time on fruitless discussions with you.
Comments such as "regret you mum" etc. are only exibiting your low IQ level... I suggested you could start playing chess instead of posting these dumb comments of yours... Apparently it did not work:) Please save yourself these primitive personal remarks...
simaodocaminhao 1 year ago
Bigls11, why don't you just start playing chess like your great compatriot Kasparov?
Chess helps you practice logical thinking and good memory, cause I see you lack both:)
simaodocaminhao 1 year ago
@simaodocaminhao Means, at you it is bad with sight. Address to the oculist. To the good oculist.
Bigls11 1 year ago
Bigls 11, suddenly your english got perfect, aren't you typing in some Russian "history" book on Second World War? Pity of you, seriously...
You're fed on propaganda like a baby on mama's milk. Tjhe worst is you don't even realize that:)
simaodocaminhao 1 year ago
@simaodocaminhao Regret the mum, instead of me. That it has brought up the son considering is the cleverest.
Bigls11 1 year ago
Bigls11, do you realize Russians implemented so-called "communism" in their country for 80 years which was sickest and bloodiest ideological/political system on earth, only shortly competed by Nazi Germany, the system that caused misery and death of ten of millions of innocent people in Russia/Soviet Union alone not to mention neighbouring countries and others all over the world ???
simaodocaminhao 1 year ago
@simaodocaminhao First, most "sick and bloody ideological" system - system of nazi Germany.
Secondly, only the Soviet system could resist to the full to nazi Germany - and the history has shown it.
Thirdly, the communism was carried out not by Russian, and Jews. 95 % of the higher posts Jews occupied, 95 % of chiefs of camps a Gulag (30-has begun 50) - Jews.
Bigls11 1 year ago
ALLAH !
AllahuAlAhad 1 year ago
@Cycuaro in 1380 Poland was connented with Hungary by personal union
esemxxx 1 year ago
In 2001 Lviv had 725,000 inhabitants, of whom 88 percent were Ukrainians, 9 percent Russians and 1 percent Poles.
Lviv, and western Ukraine is quite culturally Ukrainian now, especially since the Poles have been intermarrying with Ukrainians.
Bosirant 1 year ago
I think it's so sad that some Poles misunderstand the meaning of patriotism. I'm afraid you're not doing any good to your homeland guys...
Re communism, as far as I'm aware, it's only the period of 1945-1953 that we can call a communist era in Poland. Fairly short time but tragic enough, as many Polish patriots were repressioned and killed, in particular the soldiers of Polish resistance (Armia Krajowa) who fought with Nazis during WW2 but were now considered "Enemies of the people".
Jackowski76 1 year ago
@Jackowski76
are you really a pole? honestly? ahhh you propably was skipin history lessons, just like me english lessons.
Drac441 1 year ago
@soliterx9 It is a pity to me that you stink. I recommend to address to the doctor though hardly it will help you. I not the communist and never it was, so your big comment about communism to a place. That fact that the USA - the most bloody country for all history is absolutely obvious. Where you wouldn't be put-everywhere a grief and blood. Jews that fill the USA-most the bloody nation. They stand up for all wars, provocations and troubles arising because of it.
Bigls11 1 year ago
1999 — our time: Poland returned to the borders of two centuries ago — joins to NATO.
TrueUkrainian 1 year ago
@greenFIRMWARE It is not necessary to repeat every time someone's dullness and to parade the dullness. Was upset, what Russian youth national team on hockey has allowed to suck away to your country of thick aunts - the USA and Canada? Be not upset, protect nerves.
Bigls11 1 year ago
@greenFIRMWARE 20 thousand Polish officers? Now I am absolutely assured that it was necessary to kill all of you. All. For this purpose there were all possibilities. That then such as you didn't stink here at forums.
Bigls11 1 year ago
@Bigls11 Well, if the fact of posting more or less aggressive/ stupid content by some Polish users would be substantial enough for you to decide on killing the entire nation, I don't have much else to say, apart from offering compassion to your family.
If you tried to be sarcastic (I wouldn't dare to call it funny), it worked out sick in the end.
Jackowski76 1 year ago
@Jackowski76 Some? There is an impression that all Poles aren't able to distinguish black from the white. On-extreme measure - at this forum.
Regrets to my family leave at itself. I in turn regret to all Poles who aren't capable to pay a tribute of respect to 600.000 Soviet soldiers who have rescued your country. Even if after war you have appeared in a zone of influence of the USSR.
Bigls11 1 year ago
@Bigls11 Well then, if we follow your example and start using such childish generalisations, we could say that there is an impression all Russian are utterly evil.
As a matter of interest, do you know any Pole in person?
Jackowski76 1 year ago
@Jackowski76 Even if I don't know someone from Poles personally, I do not think that at forums the comments write the Polish phantoms.
Bigls11 1 year ago
@Bigls11
And regarding this bit on Soviet soldiers, I suppose it wouldn't be surprising for anyone, if I say the Soviets weren't perceived as Poland's liberators, but rather as new occupants.
Reports on the actions of Red Army soldiers while "liberating" Poland, are horrifying at times. I could go on with examples, even those which I heard from my grandparents, but I think it's no need to do that at the moment.
Jackowski76 1 year ago
@Jackowski76 It is a pity that the history hasn't given possibility to feel long-term German occupation, actual destruction of Poland as the states was whose purpose.
That there was a possibility to compare to the Soviet influence.
Bigls11 1 year ago
@Bigls11
Anyway, even if they weren't beloved, I think our Polish level of humanity is high enough to keep the Soviet military cemeteries in a very good condition, with due respect for those who died on the Polish soil.
Jackowski76 1 year ago