on those kind of tonearms you can adjust the tracking force by making the spring more tight or more lose. a very strage thing is that when you make the spring more tight you decreases the tracking force. at least thats how it is on my BSR monarch
Wow ! really nice turn table. I own the same one but it lacks the stylus-catridge. I am not sure what type it is and where we geit it. Any advice on this welcome.
50's record changers are the best (looking as well)! i had a 50's changer a few years ago couldn't get it adjusted and the needle was worn. i sold it. i now use a late 6o's early 70's philips changer. but i'm thinking of selling that one again and buy a 50's changer again. thanks for sharing.
My Magnavox was from the states, my Grandmother gave it to me and my parents shipped the thing to me last summer. I have some universal travel adapters I use, which can convert a US plug to UK or other European plugs. I'm not sure how it works with the frequency difference between 50 and 60Hz. I'm not sure if the Magnavox's speed was ever quite right.
@The1970sInfatuate l've never seen any product by them for sale here,that's for sure.l suspect the Magnavox always ran too slowly here on 50HZ,some old kit with AC shaded pole motors had a pulley for 60HZ included or it could be fitted by the dealers.Something like an old Philips 603,which was battery/mains and had an electronically speed-controlled DC motor would've been unaffected by all this,once the right volage was selected!
Up until 1988 I had a Dansette "Hi-Fi" with Garrard AT6 turntable, which used to belong to my parents and they gave to me in mid '86. However when we moved house they asked me if I really wanted to "keep that old thing", and foolishly as I think now, I said no. They're very highly sought-after now (watch?v=JFgWxuCMpg0)
I am much much too young to appreciate these mechanical record changers, so the fact that it changes and detects the records completely mechanically and doesn't use electronic sensors, servo motors or microprocessors completely blows my mind, it's truly amazing, I suspect by my parents are old enough to have use auto changers when they were teenagers. Is the stylus supposed to make so much noise rubbing against the record? What are you going to do with it now it works?
@Lachlant1984 Thanks,it's pretty amazing stuff when you think of it too.By the way,that old 78's pretty badly worn out.lt doesn't make so much noise playing a decent record.So no l'd guess the next step is to find it a home where it'll be appreciated.
great to see it woking again, is the working voltage 240 or does it have a transmotor to knock the voltage down? great sound anyway thanks for posting it.
@dadgad0 Thanks,it seemed a pity to throw it in the back of a bin wagon.Went earlier and all the other crap that was there had gone,must've got there just in time
@AG3304 I know. I meant they're both engineered the same way. I wonder if your Collaro uses similar tubes. The whole engineering of the mechanism is completely identical with the idlers for the platter and tonearm. And the tonearm works the same way on your Collaro as my Magnavox did because there's a straight edge part on the arm that detects the diameter of a record when it automatically drops to play the first track. That all works exactly the same as my Magnavox.
@The1970sInfatuate The set it came from was only mono,but yes,it does work like that with the tonearm sensing the record's size,and then retreating a little before dropping in the right place to play.
What were those 78 records actually made of? I can remember when I was a child having loads of these with Victor Sylvester - crikey that takes me back!
Good to see the Collaro back in some form of service once again. Good level of engineering went into these deck in those days, over engineered in some cases which is why they last so long. That spring on the tonearm is for the adjustment of the tracking force. Possibly got weak over the years or just not set up properly when the cartridge was replaced. The tonearm on my old Garrard 2025TC deck that I used to have was set up in the same way.
@ChiefNolte lt took some du-gunging to get this working,and l'm only surprised it's as quiet as it is too.l thought the spring might be for tonearm adjustment,will have to find another somewhere in my shed.
I need Glasses too lol. We are all in the same boat River, great sound on that 78rpm, you mentioned BSR, ah! the good old days, I love the way the tone arm moves to let the next record drop down onto the Turntable, amazing engineering.
That's a really nice changer! Magnavox uses the Collaro mechanism in there changers. Too bad not too many manufactures use Collaro turntables in their units. They're solid changers!
on those kind of tonearms you can adjust the tracking force by making the spring more tight or more lose. a very strage thing is that when you make the spring more tight you decreases the tracking force. at least thats how it is on my BSR monarch
agfamatic91 6 months ago
@agfamatic91 It is odd the way you tighten it to decrease pressure isn't it! :-)
AG3304 6 months ago
I still have the same model!!!!
telosfd 6 months ago
Wow ! really nice turn table. I own the same one but it lacks the stylus-catridge. I am not sure what type it is and where we geit it. Any advice on this welcome.
jogytmathew 7 months ago
@jogytmathew lt seems to say "GP 91" on the cartridge.You might find one on ebay,or perhaps from the Vintage Parts .com people,somewhere like that.
AG3304 7 months ago
50's record changers are the best (looking as well)! i had a 50's changer a few years ago couldn't get it adjusted and the needle was worn. i sold it. i now use a late 6o's early 70's philips changer. but i'm thinking of selling that one again and buy a 50's changer again. thanks for sharing.
jks2 8 months ago
@jks2 They do have a certain something.l have a soft spot for the old 60s/70s Philips turntables,and their piano key autochanger too!
AG3304 8 months ago
My Magnavox was from the states, my Grandmother gave it to me and my parents shipped the thing to me last summer. I have some universal travel adapters I use, which can convert a US plug to UK or other European plugs. I'm not sure how it works with the frequency difference between 50 and 60Hz. I'm not sure if the Magnavox's speed was ever quite right.
The1970sInfatuate 9 months ago
@The1970sInfatuate l've never seen any product by them for sale here,that's for sure.l suspect the Magnavox always ran too slowly here on 50HZ,some old kit with AC shaded pole motors had a pulley for 60HZ included or it could be fitted by the dealers.Something like an old Philips 603,which was battery/mains and had an electronically speed-controlled DC motor would've been unaffected by all this,once the right volage was selected!
AG3304 9 months ago
Whats the name of this song?
PatSharpsNastyMullet 9 months ago
@PatSharpsNastyMullet Transatlantic Lullaby,played by Victor Sylvester and his Ballroom Orchestra.
AG3304 9 months ago
@AG3304 Thanks River
PatSharpsNastyMullet 9 months ago
@TuneStunna That's about it :-)
AG3304 10 months ago
Up until 1988 I had a Dansette "Hi-Fi" with Garrard AT6 turntable, which used to belong to my parents and they gave to me in mid '86. However when we moved house they asked me if I really wanted to "keep that old thing", and foolishly as I think now, I said no. They're very highly sought-after now (watch?v=JFgWxuCMpg0)
BizMarkUK 10 months ago
@BizMarkUK Oops,there's always one that gets away...
AG3304 10 months ago
Nice you have it fixed,and to see it working!
FeCr3 10 months ago
@FeCr3 Thanks for that!
AG3304 10 months ago
I am much much too young to appreciate these mechanical record changers, so the fact that it changes and detects the records completely mechanically and doesn't use electronic sensors, servo motors or microprocessors completely blows my mind, it's truly amazing, I suspect by my parents are old enough to have use auto changers when they were teenagers. Is the stylus supposed to make so much noise rubbing against the record? What are you going to do with it now it works?
Lachlant1984 10 months ago
@Lachlant1984 Thanks,it's pretty amazing stuff when you think of it too.By the way,that old 78's pretty badly worn out.lt doesn't make so much noise playing a decent record.So no l'd guess the next step is to find it a home where it'll be appreciated.
AG3304 10 months ago
@mattluvsvox921 Might have to do that!
AG3304 10 months ago
@triangman1992 l do believe it was the man himself.
AG3304 10 months ago
great to see it woking again, is the working voltage 240 or does it have a transmotor to knock the voltage down? great sound anyway thanks for posting it.
reelfanobsession 10 months ago
@reelfanobsession lt has a 240V motor this old thing,like many old BSR decks,and Garrards.
AG3304 10 months ago
Well worth a tinker for sure. Lovely machine River. All the best. Gary
dadgad0 10 months ago
@dadgad0 Thanks,it seemed a pity to throw it in the back of a bin wagon.Went earlier and all the other crap that was there had gone,must've got there just in time
Warm regards,River
AG3304 10 months ago
This really is a lot like my Magnavox.
The1970sInfatuate 10 months ago
@The1970sInfatuate l did think of your Magnavox when l saw the two idlers.
AG3304 10 months ago
@AG3304 I know. I meant they're both engineered the same way. I wonder if your Collaro uses similar tubes. The whole engineering of the mechanism is completely identical with the idlers for the platter and tonearm. And the tonearm works the same way on your Collaro as my Magnavox did because there's a straight edge part on the arm that detects the diameter of a record when it automatically drops to play the first track. That all works exactly the same as my Magnavox.
The1970sInfatuate 10 months ago
@The1970sInfatuate The set it came from was only mono,but yes,it does work like that with the tonearm sensing the record's size,and then retreating a little before dropping in the right place to play.
AG3304 10 months ago
Beautiful player!!
legOldtimer 10 months ago
@legOldtimer Thanks!
AG3304 10 months ago
What were those 78 records actually made of? I can remember when I was a child having loads of these with Victor Sylvester - crikey that takes me back!
storebror21 10 months ago
@storebror21 l heard they were made of a bakelite-like substance called Shellac.l know they break very easily and seem heavy for what they are.
AG3304 10 months ago
Good to see the Collaro back in some form of service once again. Good level of engineering went into these deck in those days, over engineered in some cases which is why they last so long. That spring on the tonearm is for the adjustment of the tracking force. Possibly got weak over the years or just not set up properly when the cartridge was replaced. The tonearm on my old Garrard 2025TC deck that I used to have was set up in the same way.
ChiefNolte 10 months ago
@ChiefNolte lt took some du-gunging to get this working,and l'm only surprised it's as quiet as it is too.l thought the spring might be for tonearm adjustment,will have to find another somewhere in my shed.
AG3304 10 months ago
I need Glasses too lol. We are all in the same boat River, great sound on that 78rpm, you mentioned BSR, ah! the good old days, I love the way the tone arm moves to let the next record drop down onto the Turntable, amazing engineering.
Doubleringer 10 months ago
@Doubleringer l'm afraid so,and oh yes,the good old days.
AG3304 10 months ago
thats fantastic that its running again, do you know where i might be able to get one of these or one of those cartriges
kirtley2010 10 months ago
@kirtley2010 Thanks,but l've not a clue as to where you'd get that cartridge mind
AG3304 10 months ago
i have an old garrard 3500 record changer that came out of an old bush thing
i made new case for it and now use it on my hi-fi
pooface006 10 months ago
@pooface006 Good idea of yours,will probably end up doing something similar.
AG3304 10 months ago
They don't make them like they use to do they!
syncmaster710n14 10 months ago
@syncmaster710n14 They certainly do not!
AG3304 10 months ago
very nice
elad463 10 months ago
@elad463 Thanks
AG3304 10 months ago
That's a really nice changer! Magnavox uses the Collaro mechanism in there changers. Too bad not too many manufactures use Collaro turntables in their units. They're solid changers!
Vinylrecordsneverdie 10 months ago
@Vinylrecordsneverdie thanks,it's a nice old deck.Philips also used this idea in the piano key changers they made too.
AG3304 10 months ago
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Vinylrecordsneverdie 10 months ago