Werner Herzog does not believe in psychoanalysis

[turdlinger5000]

I wonder how he feels about Dr. Carl Jung?

[Jcolinsol]

Adam Curtis kind of illustrated the same point in "The Century of the Self".

I'm not sure, I love the idea of going in with an analysis, and resolving all of my insecurities and healing myself.

On the other hand, I think that in reality you probably can't ever be healed, and can't ever get over your insecurities. And, as an artist, it is your fears and biases that make your artwork.

[1schwererziehbar1]

NOONE expects werner herzog talking about the spanish inquisition.

[DeadlyVeggie]

So, psychiatric treatment is immoral eh?

[turdlinger5000]

@DeadlyVeggie I dont think that is what he is saying, I thinnk he is saying there can be dire effects from using things that are not 100% proven as facts. In a way that pretends that are facts.

[cha1tman]

nice

[paddymourinho]

wow. wrong there werner

[tibornovak1]

He appears to make sense, but he is a absolutist. One can never illminate every room of her house. The unconscious can never be toatally known because it is a dynamic function.

[mrpopularpresents]

What Werner says about Psychoanalysis reminds me of this quote from Nietzsche:

"Be careful, lest in casting out your demon you exorcise the best thing in you."

[Mazurka1001]

He speaks his mind, good... Kudos to Werner ! It seems so outdated anyway, the entire Freudian "schtick' for the past 30 or40 years nobody is taking it seriously at all.

[eduardorenato]

NO! I love Herzog, but there are so many problems with his argument. You can't reduce psychoanalysis to Freud; there are way more psychoanalysts than Freud. It's also wrong to assume that the aim of psychoanalysis is to disclose the contents of the unconcsious. Freud, and Lacan, write extensively about this very problem! Werner, read the section in the Interpretation of Dreams on the dream-work and tell me you still believe what you say here. No shoe consuming necessary!

[mosdefinitaly]

His metaphors are so awkward and German. Psychoanalysis is like lighting a house? As if anyone could "illuminate" all the "dark corners" of the "human soul." Besides, in what way does lighting a literal house make it uninhabitable? If he means that he likes mystery, he should say that. But he won't. Because that's not artsy fartsy enough. He believes obscurity is an end in itself. Ugh. What a typical kraut artist. Talk talk talk. Speak softly and have a really big head.

[KaiserBecks]

@mosdefinitaly He means that you would not want to live in a house if you knew about everything that happened in there. Some things are best kept secret. Not that hard to understand actually. Or maybe I do just because I'm a "Kraut". Cheers

[HARMONICROOMS]

@mosdefinitaly Talk talk talk and probably 1000 times more action.

Have you not seen his films?

Kaiser Becks got it right up there.

[xmfdibujito]

jajaajaja, I love him more and more. Freud was a catastrophic event, like the "Inquisición Española".

[maamenta]

I'm fascinated by psychoanalysis especially Lacanian but sometimes it leaves me thinking & analyzing too much

[ignoranttwat]

The thing is that, in a way, psychoanalysis agrees with him.

[eduardorenato]

@ignoranttwat exactly!



[flixmsncom]

He doesn't really motivates his opinion except by using some analogy's without real substance. Salvation of mam will come true understanding himself. Knowing yourself = knowing god

[ManuelRibeiro17]

Wrong title: Herzog is validating psychonalysis just by finding it catastrophic... that is called resistance... What happens with Freud, happened with Darwin, and even Copernicus..

Should we have access to anyone's mind, in a voyeuristic way? of course not..

But shouldn't we rather try to make sense of how the human species, supposedly rational, is capable of such levels of colectively organized  destruction as it happened in the last century? Go read some Freud, Herzog

[iplayguitarweo]

@ManuelRibeiro17

No dumbass. He said "it is one of the... greatest mistakes of the 20th C. There is something definitely wrong about psychoanalysis." What he's saying is that in the same way that the Inquisition didn't really find out the truth from confessions, psychoanalysis does neither. We think we uncover truth about ourselves but we don't really. Reducing the human and not looking at it as a whole is like saying a hurricane is just a bunch of water droplets. It's derivative. lrn2Ontology.

[bmwx11]

@iplayguitarweo while he says "there is something definitively wrong" about psychoanalysis, he doesn't say it is WRONG...it is almost because psychoanalysis sheds real light into every corner of our house, becuase it captures truth, that it is "unhealthy." Herzog is making a purely pragmatic argument. The truth, knowledge, does not always equal good. The spanish inquisition analogy is only about their similar magnitude...and, again, the pragmatic consequences they each had.

[sat4n]

@bmwx11 I was about to say the same thing til I saw your post. You're exactly right. He's saying that psychoanalysis offers truths we would be better off not knowing, not that it offers lies. When he says it's "wrong" he means that it's ethically wrong, not that its claims about the mind are false. And I think he's right that there are real costs to the kind of knowledge analysis offers, but obviously there are benefits too, and I'm not sure I'm convinced the costs outweigh the benefits.

[jkhgsdhgdhgjklsdhfgj]

@ManuelRibeiro17 what he is saying is very simple: a "total" human, given complete freedom to every single "dark" impulse would mean the crash of civilized behaviour and society. I agree with him, some things are better left to poetry and to a greater mystery that we can know but, if we want a rational and organized world, should leave it alone. You putting his discurse under a freudian reading only confirms the power that fake psychoanalysis has in our lifes... its devastating...

[RobertoWatchin]

watch Bunueal

[gfkd]

yes

[britcruise]

brilliant!