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  • I came here just to read the comments

  • Total child abuse on so many levels, the children are told by their parents that they are having a party for them and they end up being tortured? Children learn to trust through their parents. These children will never be normal productive people, they will never trust, never love, never feel 'normal' again, as long as they live. Whoever does this to these poor innocent children will certainly go to hell. I hope and pray everyday that this will stop.

  • I SHAME ALL MUSLIM WOMEN WHO TORTURE THEIR DAUGHTERS JUDT BECAUSE!! I AM THANKFUL I AM AN AMERICAN AND MYSELF ABD MY DAUGHTER WILL NEVER HAVE TO BE TREATED LIKE THAT!! ALL THOSE COUNTRIES ARE SICK AND DO TERRIBLE THINGS TO WOMEN AND THEIR OWN PPL!! I KNOW IT'S NOT EVERYONE BUT THE MAJORITY!!! SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME ON ALL OF YOU WOMEN WHO ALLOW THIS TO BE DONE!!!

  • @brennaliiah1112

    Let's not forget the men who torture their sons.

  • Your not going to tell Muslim extremist anything. Their the working right arm of the devil. They have no value for life itself and they consider women less then that off a dog. They dont want peace they wouldnt know it if they had it. If they cant fight with others they will fight amongst themselves. The best thing that could happen is that they nuke the whole middle east and let Ala seperate the good from the bad.

  • Extremist Muslims really need to wake up & stop torturing their women. Maybe the men that treat their wives like shit & those of came up with these sorts of ridiculous rules should have their male parts cut off. Bet if things were "equal" the narrow minded sexist men would think twice!!

  • was told she was going to have a party , instead she was tortured.

  • @MultipleExperiments

    And I have heard of cases of little boys going into minor surgery to get something fixed and they wake up with their genitals mutilated.

  • They can't be in the darkest corners of the world. The world is round.

  • That's just horrible. I'm a chick and that's just absolutely horrible! ><;;; This world is soo messed up! People are damn crazy. You'd think that cutting the clitoris would make you bleed to death because there are so many nerves in there for stimulation.

  • Sheikh Talib, Dean of the Faculty of Shariah of Al Azhar (the most ancient and authentic University of Islam), has said:

    “all practices of female circumcision and mutilation are crimes and have no relationship with Islam.”

  • @BinteSaleema

    What does this "scholar" have to say about male genital mutilation? His answer would speak volumes as to his intelligence.

  • @Skorpi00007 who cares wtf the difference is its down right wrong! there is a reason why its not common practice worldwide... because its fucked up! its disgusting and the people that dont find it disgusting are sick in the head. disgusting is a word used to describe something offensive... this shit is offensive.. changing the way the body is created for what reason?!?!? because "Islam" says.. he also tells men they get all these virgins when they suicide bomb.. u gonna try and defend that too??

  • Fucking muslim animals

    

  • @Komnenit ....I cant believe no one is stopping them.

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  • the horrors of all religious traditions, epsecially the abrahamic ones

  • F@*K!N ANIMALS Who would put a child through that,.,.,. They act like animals not humans and should be treat as such SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ,.,., NOW

  • i hate this practice. i really feel so bad for these girls. sigh

  • Not only do these dumb mothers allow their children to be mutilated, they also lie to them, all because men want them to do it, to keep women "pure". What they really want is for women not to be able to have or experience sexual desire or pleasure, fearing their own inferiority.  Well, the men are the offspring of predecessor women who allowed this to happen. We are supposed to respect other cultures. Well, I don't. The stupidity of this is apparent.

  • I agree with Hobbymaster 1000. The ones doing this should be killed! Women, stand up for your sisters!

  • @ocnoreen

    What about mutilating men? What is your stance there?

  • It is important because it helps to prevent from HIV virus and easier and safe for having secure sexual activity

  • @zayantay

    If these claims are true then you should be able to provide concrete proof that they are true..got any?

    Retract, rinse, replace.. seems easy to rational people.

  • @zayantay who the F**k told u that rubbish.... it isnt done for keeping hiv down... hiv is passed thru bodily fluid so do u explain cutting parts of the genitals/genitalia prevent that? as u see at the end they even say they dont no why they do it... and how is it easier and safer? im sorry but there is no way in hell i would allow that to happen to me or anyone i no for the sake of someone elses ease... rofl ur a joke..

  • Uploader, female circumcision isn't an Islamic ritual. According to Islamic laws, a woman has the right to divorce her husband if he fails to satisfy her in bed. Islam gives women the right to have their sexual pleasure with their partners, and verses say that a woman should keep her genitals intact as it is better for her, and her husband would find it more desirable.

    People who say they do this because Islam says so, confuse Islam with tradition.

  • @Genius712

    What Islam says to do or not do, and what Islam does seems to be very different things.

    Is male circumcision merely a tradition?

  • @Tandykane Male circumcision isn't a tradition, it is recommended by Islam. But female circumcision is discouraged as it does harm to women. Male circumcision is recommended due to the fact that many problems related to having a foreskin could be avoided and the penis could be kept clean easily, as Islam stresses on cleanliness.

    However, female circumcision is not necessary to keep the vagina clean and in fact circumcision of the vagina can cause infections and problems for the woman.

  • @Genius712 And those who say female circumcision is an Islamic ritual, are merely confusing their traditions with Islam. There's no such word about female circumcision being a must or a recommendation in the Quran.

  • @Genius712

    SYDNEY MORNING HERALD, Sydney, NSW, Tuesday, 13 January 2004.

    It's Indonesia's biggest secret. Most of its women have been subjected to an operation which the World Health Organisation says is unnecessary. Matthew Moore and Karuni Rompies report.

    To find out more about female circumcision, the USAid-funded study by the Population Council surveyed 1694 households in eight regions and found all the boys and 97.5 per cent of girls had been circumcised.

  • @Genius712

    WHY is male circumcision recommended by Islam? Intelligent people wash, only stupid people amputate.

    Male circumcision also does harm to males.

    Can you provide a single PROVEN problem that male circumcision prevents?

    The Quran also does not mention male circumcision--in fact discourages it.

  • @Tandykane Go do some research on why doctors in USA circumcise babies after they are born, and then come to argue...those doctors are non-Muslims. ;)

  • @Genius712

    I have done my research and looked at all of the excuses why Americans circumcise, and you know what--none of these excusse are credible--and this is why other countries have stopped doing it.

    Now if you can provide what you think is a single PROVEN benefits, we can discuss this further.

  • @Tandykane

    Benefits include:

    A decreased risk of urinary tract infections.

    A reduced risk of sexually transmitted diseases in men.

    Protection against penile cancer and a reduced risk of cervical cancer in female sex partners.

    Prevention of balanitis (inflammation of the glans) and balanoposthitis (inflammation of the glans and foreskin).

    Prevention of phimosis (the inability to retract the foreskin) and paraphimosis (the inability to return the foreskin to its original location).

  • @Genius712

    We studied about benefits of circumcision in Biology classes as well, taught by a CHRISTIAN teacher, so his views on it weren't influenced by Islam.

  • @Tandykane

    Gee, what you are saying is the textbooks that have in their contexts about benefits and harms of circumcisions are just dumb opinions of teachers? I wonder which publishing company would publish those endorsed books without proven facts.

    You are not proving me wrong, instead you are only expressing your unwillingness to accept facts because you are blinded by your "opinions."

    There are plenty of facts, & the points I have listed were in the context of my biology book & other sites.

  • @Genius712

    In the end, pros of male circumcision outweighs the cons.

    However, female circumcision causes damage to the genitals, and can even kill women, thus it is prohibited by Islam...the most that is "allowed" is removal of "half" the clitoral hood.

  • @Genius712

    "In the end, pros of male circumcision outweighs the cons."

    Thanks for the opinions, but I really need EMPIRICAL evidence--not just OPINIONS, got any?

    Male circumcision damages the genitals and males die from it.

    WHY is CHE allowed? Any rational reason?

  • @Genius712

    A retrospective study of boys aged 4 months to 12 years found uncircumcised boys exhibited significantly greater frequency of penile problems (14% vs 6%; P < 0.001) and medical visits for penile problems (10% vs 5%; P < 0.05) compared with those who were circumcised.

  • @Genius712

    Epididymitis is inflammation of the epididymis. It can be very painful, and become a chronic condition, but medical treatment is well accepted and effective. One 1998 study found the rate of epididymitis in boys with foreskins was significantly higher than in those without; that an intact foreskin is an important etiological factor in boys with epididymitis.

    ~Wikipedia

  • @Genius712

    Do you really want to play the study game?

    if you do, then please provide the actual studies and not some Wikipedia claims..

    Van Howe RS. Variability in penile appearance and penile findings: a prospective study. Brit J Urol 1997;80:776-782

  • @Genius712

    I have read the study and critically analyzed these claims, but the problem is I have never found these claims exist in the real world--can you provide me evidence that they do>

  • @Genius712

    Studies have found that boys with foreskins tend to have higher rates of various infections and inflammations of the penis than those who are circumcised.The reasons are unclear, but several hypotheses have been suggested:

    The foreskin may harbor bacteria and become infected if it is not cleaned properly.

    The foreskin may become inflamed if it is cleaned too often with soap.

    The forcible retraction of the foreskin in boys can lead to infections

    ~Wikipedia

  • @Genius712

    Study, please..opinions won't hack it.

  • @Tandykane

    Let's go to the ultimate--documented DEATHS from circumcision--got any documented deaths from being intact?

  • @Tandykane

    Penile cancer causes death. Period.

    Men don't die after they are circumcised, if that were the case, then 50% of the men in the world would be dead by now. There are millions of Muslim and Jewish men on Earth, and yes, they are still alive. Those who died, died of other kinds of diseases and old age.

    All my points were proven facts, from my biology book, 5 other websites and wikipedia.

    If you want evidence, all I'll say is that I am alive and got no problems with my penis.

  • @Genius712

    Btw, I do not support circumcision against anyone's consent. But the debate here is if it is beneficial or dangerous.

    Uncircumcised men may argue that taking away the foreskin reduces sensitivity, takes away protection of the glans, the foreskin can still be kept clean.

    Proven fact:

    Uncircumcised men tend to last longer in bed. During intercourse, the glans is exposed since foreskin is absent, thus stimulation is most of the time better.

  • @Genius712

    It isn't easier to clean the foreskin...usage of soap can cause irritation, dryness, burns or even allergy.

    People who have a foreskin always have the risk of getting their foreskin being caught up in the zipper, if they don;t wear an underwear.

    The glands in the foreskin may lubricate the glans, but the urine, mucus and dirt can clog up and cause infections.

  • @Genius712

    Many men who have their foreskin removed after they are 20, due to problems with retraction, infection or diseases, claim that they have better orgasms, they last longer, they do not get rashes or UTI.

    I personally happen to know a person (non-Muslim Australian) who had a doctor circumcise him when he was 19. He says it was the best thing he had done to his body.

  • @Genius712

    Oh, lord, spare me these silly anecdotes, for every one you have, I have an opposite one--and SCIENCE supports mine and contradicts yours.

  • @Genius712

    I love all the claims you are making, but would it be asking for too much for valid evidence to support them?

  • @Genius712

    "Men don't die after they are circumcised, if that were the case, then 50% of the men in the world would be dead by now. "

    Sorry, but we DO have documented deaths from circumcision!

    And just how many unnecessary deaths from an unnecessary procedure do YOU find acceptable?

    Come back when you have EMPIRICAL evidence for alleged benefits for circumcision...and not just ones in questionable studies...most of which are useless..

  • @Tandykane

    Gosh, you must either be illiterate, or close minded or BLIND enough to overlook the fact that I have typed all throughout that my points were stated from endorsed books, which contain proven facts.

    Or maybe you are just too stubborn, and if that is the case, even if 100% all questionable facts will be proven 100% right, you;d still be in doubt, due to your "opinions."

    I don;t have time to repeatedly repeat myself and deal with your ignorance.

  • @Genius712

    Gosh, And I could say the same to you when the real world facts contradict your "proven facts".. especially since these "proven facts" come from worthless medical studies...

    Why Most Published Research Findings Are False John P. A. Ioannidis

    An Epidemic of False Claims--Competition and conflicts of interest distort too many medical findings By John P. A. Ioannidis

  • poor little girl

    

  • this is yukiara0 i dont like to see it we need to prevent it

  • @laycool0

    Amen! and we should prevent male genital mutilation also.

  • i hate to see that

  • As disgusting as male circumcision is, this is even worse. Chopping of the clit is the same as chopping of the entire penis for guys.

  • @Hobbymaster1000

    Is it more disgusting than Yemen circumcision for men?

  • @Hobbymaster1000 There is a big difference between female and male circumstance, Please don't put them in one bucket. Disgusting is objective, I find dogs disgusting. Men mutilation is a very healthy and normal thing to do. You a free to believe different, but don't get your opinions mixed up with facts. As i said, i find dogs disgusting, but that doesn't make them disgusting

  • @Skorpi00007

    If you bothered to do some research, you would find amny forms of both FGM and MGM--and for every form of FGM, there is an equivalent or worse form of MGM.

    And sorry, but MGM can hardly be described as healthy if one is a rational person...and 20% can hardly be called normal.

    Try using FACTS, as you said.

  • @Skorpi00007 But the clitoris is the female erectile tissue, and the penis is the male erectile tissue, so cutting off the clitoris is equivalent to cutting off the penis, because it's cutting off the erectile tissue. Don't give me shit about facts either, because I didn't actually say anything about facts. It's easier to clean an uncircumcised penis than to care for a wound of any kind.

  • @Hobbymaster1000

    What about clitoral hood amputation--the equivalent of amputating the male foreskin?

  • @Tandykane That's wrong too

  • @Hobbymaster1000

    Come back when you have educated yourself on the subject.

  • @Tandykane Fuck you, don't give me shit about education, I think both male and female genital mutilation is wrong

  • @Hobbymaster1000 The male foreskin alone has 20000 nerve endings,compared to 8000 nerve endings in the clitoris.Male circumcision destroys a higher proportion of erogenous nerve endings than most forms of female mutilation.The most extreme forms of female mutilation account for 10%-15% of the total cases of female mutilation.These are more serious, but FGM is much less common in the world generally than MGM.

    The boys in the community shown in the video go through essentially the same thing!

  • @dalriada842 I agree, they're both wrong

  • @Hobbymaster1000 not really, because females have a nerve going inside them as well and to get rid of any pleasure completely you would have to paralyze a person by removing it all. So it's exactly the same - in both cases you lose about 75% of feeling. Neither should ever be done.

  • @Hobbymaster1000 Umm actually it would be like cutting the head off of the penis.

  • @BLA7IINW33D

    BS, there are more nerves in the foreskin than the clitoris--do your research!

  • This is NOT what God wants. God is a God of love. NOT a God of suffering! No child needs to be circumcised!

  • @jojoneli76

    You mad?

  • stupid and ignorant people it makes me sick

  • poor little girls :-((((((((((((((((((((((((((

  • the ancient ritual feel that they own everything

    stupid ritual

  • Is it bad when it happens to males

  • wow....why do ppl bring islam in every stupid thing.....i am Muslim nd iv never in my life heard abt it in my country nd with my ppl....bt heard abt it in a non-muslim country.....be realistic

  • @zohry

    Didn't hear about it being done in Indonesia (largest Muslim country) where 97% of Muslim women there are circumcised?

    SYDNEY MORNING HERALD, Sydney, NSW, Tuesday, 13 January 2004.

  • Dumb fucking muslims, if they believed in allah or whoever they worship, why would their "God" create them with a clitoris, i mean seariously learn more about humanity than religion sick fucks.

  • fuck islam.allah n muhamad.thats it!

  • DEATH 2 anyone who participates in this disgusting f**ked up shit!!!!!!

  • Poor girls!

    FGM is NOT an Islamic tradition... people seriously ned to open a book.

  • @MsChadni

    Then why is that 97% of the women in Indonesia (largest Muslim country) are circumcised?

    People seriously need to face reality.

  • @Tandykane Don't Confuse Teh People's Culture With Their Religion. In Islam Only Males Are Supposed To Be Circumcised.

  • @Rayzdays

    You can play the word games, but Islam sure as hell tolerates FGM.

    And perhaps you can supply a rational reason WHY makes should be mutilated?

  • I can't believe that these poor children have to go through all of this pain when in the beginning they were fine to begin with. I respect the culture and think it's great but why do this to these little girls. I'm puzzled.

  • Now what's the point in this? Anyone. Like men get circumcised and it could actualy help them with complications of the foreskin but what the crap does this acomplish?

  • @youbetrollin10

    IF circumcision is proven to be medically necessary, then fine, but to mutilate children for no rational reason is barbaric.

  • That's... just terrible..

  • what about the males who get circumcised? is that just not important enough?

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  • @Tigerlilly0777

    You need to do some research..the most common form of both FGM & MGM removes the prepuce..

    And if you still you want to compare apples to apples.. try finding a comparable form of FGM that is worse that Yemen circumcision, then we can have an informed discussion.

  • Savages just like the Americans!

  • For $21 that sadistic bitch has maimed 6 little girls for the rest of their lives.

    islam = sadistic barbarism!

  • @lysel3

    Doctors in the US, charge up to $1000 to maim little boys--these girls got a bargain price.

  • @Tandykane Well, let's see -- is it really a "bargain"?

    A lifetime of pain, medical complications, urinary tract infections, pelvic infections, infertility (if she's lucky) or dying in childbirth because she is unable to push her baby out through her scarred, mutilated birth canal.

    Nope, not a bargain at all!

    Two wrongs do not make a right -- NEITHER boys nor girls should have this awful, unnecessary mutilation done to them. It is a HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSE!

  • @lysel3

    That was meant as sarcastic humor... to emphasize how sick genital mutilation is male or female.

  • @Tandykane OOps, sorry ... I have so many arguements with peeps who tell me it's "cultural", "religious", and no one has a right to tell parents what they may or may not do to their children!

  • @lysel3

    Oh, so the right for parents to deliberately harm their children SHOULD supersede the basic human rights of children NOT to be damaged?

    You need to provide a RATIONAL reason why this SHOULD be.

    Children are NOT property!

  • @Tandykane Please re-read my post ... I constantly have people attacking me, telling me that I have "no right" to tell people "what to do with their kids" ... that I need to respect cultural practices, religious rights, etc.

    I am TOTALLY against ANY mutilation of children! THERE IS NO EXCUSE TO DO THIS TO KIDS!

    The childrens' Human Rights supercede ANY "Parental Rights" to harm them! Read any of my posts on YouTube or on any other sites, you will see I strongly defend all Human Rights!

  • A very sensitively made video; thank you. Let's all keep campaigning against FGM and pray that one day this unnecessary torture will be stopped for good.

  • @mayaheartkyfc what about MGM? or is GM only an issue when it happens to women?

  • @33LB FGM is a barbaric practice which destroys women's right to sexual pleasure, causing them severe and lifelong pain and difficulty with things as simple as going to the toilet. I am going to continue to speak out against it in whatever way I can. This video does not address male circumcision; therefore I am not going to discuss it here. You have your views and I have mine. I'm not going to argue about this with you.

  • @mayaheartkyfc and guess what- male genital mutilation also damages a man's sexual pleasure. so why don't you have a problem with that? is it because men are expendible in your eyes, so their problems don't matter to you?

    i'm not quite sure what you mean about damaging a women's sexual pleasure though- women rarely have sex to begin with and turn it down at just about every opportunity. sex generally isnt something that women are concerned about.

  • in Quran there's nothing about female circumcision procedure, circumcision is only for male. May ALLAH help us in every thing...AMEEN...

  • Any circumcision whether to male or female is unwarranted unless for medical reasons, like when the foreskin cannot be pulled back. The trouble with the world is that people will follow religions blindly without understanding why stupid things were done in the past. Female circumcision is meaningless because it will cause the mutilated to lose sensation and reduce lubrication, leading to painful sex. I cant imagine how painful circumcision can be and will never allow it on any of my offsprings.

  • @takeoh9 It's not actually a religious practice, but traditional. Islam actively condemns it, and their Prophet ordered that the vagina cannot be destroyed. It makes sense really, why destroy something that is believe to have been created for you by an all-powerful God?

  • Against FGM and blaming Muslims.

  • You can't blame Musliums, cuz none of this SHIT is written in the Holy Quran!!! I am strongly against this!

  • @Psycho11lefty The WHOLE quran is SHIT! 

  • @pinkfreud62 FUCK YOU MOFO!!!!!!!!!

  • OMG ISLAM IS TOTALLY AGAINST FEMALE CIRCUMCISION!!!!!!!!

    not for men,, but this is totally WRONG AND HORRIBLE! totally haram

    ppl r soooo ignorant LEARN YOUR DAMN RELIGION!

  • @divastarsarsoory2004

    Against female circumcision? then how & why are 97% of women in Indonesia (largest Muslim country) circumcised..so hardly AGAINST it.

    And everything said against female circumcision also apples to male circumcision.. not only lies, but a huge double standard.

  • @Tandykane FGM is a cultural practice and many people believe it's religious and in the Qu'ran, but the religious texts don't actually support it and Mohummad's wives would not have been circumcised. This practice occurs largely in Africa and places where literarcy and education are restricted, especially for females, so people are encouraged to believe that it's religiously supported even though it is not. That's why many grassroot projects AGAINST FGM involve religious education

  • @Nika022

    Wrong! It occurs in the largest Muslim country in the world--Indonesia where 97% of women are circumcised.

    It may not be mandated by Islam, but it sure as hell is tolerated.

    And furthermore MGM is not mandated, but the Muslims sure have turned it into a cultural or religious fetish.

    Muslims seem to have this obsession with genital mutilation in general...and I cannot understand WHY.

  • @Tandykane I've lived in Indonesia more than 15 years and never heard of female circumcision practiced there. For muslim males yes, maybe 99% , every young boy at age 8 or more yearns to have it done. Yes, Muslims have turned it into a cultural or religious fetish, but Christian indonesian dont practice circumcision.

  • @takeoh9

    Whether or not you have heard about it, it is so..

    SYDNEY MORNING HERALD, Sydney, NSW, Tuesday, 13 January 2004.

    It's Indonesia's biggest secret. Most of its women have been subjected to an operation which the World Health Organisation says is unnecessary. Matthew Moore and Karuni Rompies report.

    And we know full well, Muslims mutilate all males..and is their fetish.

    Christians have more brains.

  • @Nika022  No, it is NOT just a "cultural" practice ... Many imams ACTIVELY advocate it. Watch the video "LITTLE GIRL GETS FEMALE CIRCUMSICION VIDEO - HORRIFYING" by stopevil.

    Some imams are finally speaking out against this practice -- but it is predominently a muslim custom.

  • with all do respect i hear this jwish media lie every single day and i dont buy that crap because any single tiny mistak during the male circumcion culd cause him sterile or long lived sexual impotence by destroing the penis and maybe its cause a childe deth and its happening every where but no docter dare to tell the truth other ways they going to a cause him by the story of the aintisemetic crime

  • @MAJEDD24

    Well in all fairness. There's only about 16 million jews worldwide.

    However, there's about 1.4 billion muslims, and they all are circumcised.

    If anyone needs telling off its the muslims.

  • the male circumcision is more painful and harming but no body dare carping the male circumcision because the hospitals useing the male fore sking for some plastic beautifying surgery and they rspect the male circumcsing because its jwish proceeding so fuck you all

  • @MAJEDD24 Here is where you have to think about it..Will taking off extra skin from a penis affect its ability to perform? No, it won't. Do that to a vagina I guarantee its not going to be a pleasing feeling for her, no matter which way they circumcision is done to her.

  • @MAJEDD24 that just doesn't make sense that it's more painful and harming... Besides there ARE health benefits to removing a portion of the foreskin, like a reduction in risk of cancer.

  • @m0ssadic

    If there are PROVEN health benefits, perhaps you can provide us with even one that is PROVEN?

    Sorry the ACS does not agree that circumcision reduces penile cancer--and many intact countries have LOWER rates of it then some cutting countries--HOW is this possible?

    People who do it for health reasons are stupid and/or ignorant. Hell, people who do it are stupid--period!

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  • @MAJEDD24 That's why many non-jews do it to their boys right out of birth.

  • BARBARIC

  • im not gonna go to search for some thing that i dont believe it except if u make it sure from me u only dont all that videos to show Islam as evil religion if u wanna know that real evil go search in youtube ((Kurbaan ClassRoom Debate HQ))

  • Fucking barbarians. What kinda fucking idiotic ritual is this? Go fuck yourselves and those fuckers who came up with this.

  • islam has nothing like this ... these donkeys are doing it because they are sink to pure doucheness... turks are muslims and they never do one girl because islam doesnt say a thing like that... they are nothing of muslim character but only stupidness...

  • @halityilmaz

    WHY is female circumcision of women in Indonesia tolerated?

  • @Tandykane i have no idea but i know the theology of the entire islam and not a word i heard. people allow their daughters to marry only if man pays money to the family , this could have been seen in villages of old dusty assy places. islam is enlightment and purity , islam is real life (it is a spread word saying`` any law of nature would never come against islam and islam wouldnt come against them as well... they are the flesh and bone like, in unity)

  • @halityilmaz

    Enlightenment and purity? Try violence and oppression, and you will be closer to reality. And yes, FGM is tolerated, and MGM is demanded. Oppression of females, and the young and helpless.

    No law of nature against Islam.. NATURE makes every male born with a prepuce, Islam chops it off!

    Nothing like hypocrisy.

  • @Tandykane u are a fıghter hah? just because western countrıes won the ww1 agaınst ottoman empıre and sucked every avaılable thıng there ıs to suck from the areas where used to be ruled by ottomans and corrupted usıng every avaılable tool ıncludıng secret socıetıes... doesnt mean ıslam ıs the cause. ottoman empıre showed that rıghtfully . male curcımsızıng reduces many dıseases up to 95 percent and also jews do ıt as well. you are stuffed wıth the shıt of people callıng themselves muslım

  • @halityilmaz

    As always, actions speak louder than empty words.

    Provide a single disease that circumcision is supposed to prevent that is seen in the REAL world. Again talk is cheap. facts cost more.

    Tell us about the Ottomans who kidnapped Christian boys, mutilated them, and turned them into victim warriors to promote their oppressive culture. Nice guys, there.

  • in islam it's forbidden to circumcise a female

    the reason of that is the culture of few people whose live in the rural that why also the christian do that same in these places and in the islamic countries that habit all most disappear

  • @xmegooox

    "in islam it's forbidden to circumcise a female" It is? then why are 97% of Indonesian women circumcised? Indonesia is the largest Muslim country in the world.

  • @Tandykane no that is wrong, give me a source that i can find in it that 97% of Indonesian women circumcised

  • @xmegooox

    SYDNEY MORNING HERALD, Sydney, NSW, Tuesday, 13 January 2004.

    "To find out more about female circumcision, the USAid-funded study by the Population Council surveyed 1694 households in eight regions and found all the boys and 97.5 per cent of girls had been circumcised."

  • @Tandykane lol u get that info from that page cirp.org/news/smh01-13-04/ and that site is not and source of information what i mean with source that a book or site well known in the world like Wikipedia or not an website like that u get from it that stubbed information

  • @xmegooox

    Hey, you are given the final source for the info--that should be sufficient to trace back to the USaid study..don't expect others to hold your hand through the search process.

    Wikipedia is hardly a source of credible information.

  • @xmegooox

    Did you check out the source? ANY evidence that Christian women are circumcised? Lots of assumptions, but no valid evidence.

    FEW people??? With 97%, I guess it is difficult to claim few. Or are you trying to claim that Indonesia is not Muslim? Then WHY & HOW are MUSLIM women circumcised?

  • @Tandykane u still say 97% o.O i will tell u again bring for me A DOCUMENTED source not just go for any stupid site and make copy and paste a ratio like 97% is a very high ratio witch it should be documented,

    go to Wikipedia and search for (Islam in Indonesia) u will fine that 88% of the population are muslims so i thick u get that ratio from place just need show islam as evil because they know that Islam has become fastest spreading religion,

  • @xmegooox

    Sorry, if you are to lazy or too afraid to dig a tiny bit..believe some crap from Wikipedia--as it seems you desperately want to believe.

  • @Tandykane it's stupid when i look from some thing not real and im sure about it that and i give to u a conclusive evidence about what i say, again the Muslims population in Indonesia is 88% so how can i believe of what u say u just say go look for it that only what u say but i give u a conclusive evidence not a bull shits report in stupid site, i know u will reply go look for it :S

  • @xmegooox its looks like u have nothing to say lol

  • @Tandykane i think u have nothing to say now u didnt reply anything after my last comment

  • im a maslim no thing in islam tell us to do such a thing like that

  • Female circumcision keeps a woman also from having a child, and difficult to have sex if one wants to.These female girls will never know the beauty of heaving a mate or husband in the future of there lives. And themost beautiful gift is to have a carry baby that is gone for them, For a man it is to be clean under the forskin I know a few most women who have had sex with them keep nasty infections. He has to keep under the fold clean if not he will have a smell

  • @prettyeyes1752 Bullshit. All an intact man has to do it pull back his foreskin and clean under it very much like a woman has to pull back her labia to clean her vulva. If a woman didn't do that, she would smell too. You are such a hypocrite for defending male circumcision but speaking against female circumcision

  • poor kid

  • Пиздец вы дибилы блять.Нахуя пизду делать как жопа

  • So sad, this is a mutilation, i cant help but to think if this was my little girl....

  • All im gonna say is, religion needs to die. Religion has been the cause of most of mankind's suffering throughout history and its sickening to think that in modern society the ignorance is still just as strong as when the religion was started (by some dude)

  • Yay for Islam, a totally valid and reasonable religion!

  • @jakr303

    Sounds like something a stupid, ignorant Muslim would say--but no rational being.

  • @Tandykane >:\

    I see sarcasm still isn't carried well over text.

  • I just cannot believe a mother telling her little girl, that they are going to a party and then subjecting her to this horror! Imagine what that child feels and how painful, confusing, and humiliating this must be for them. This is barbaric. THIS NEEDS TO STOP!

  • this stuff makes my fanny cringe

  • eeveryone will no matter what your religion is will have to answer to the man upstairs smdh wow

  • Haram!!!

  • hindoo culture roxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

  • alls i can say is when jesus comes back he will see this and cry the hear us the people who care and kall all people who belive in this horrible prosess

  • @Tandykane

    First of all, it's a myth that 75% of sensitivity is lost. I was talking with a guy who wasn't circumcised until he was 17, and he said there was no noticeable difference. Second, studies have proven that there is a less chance of contracting STDs and other disgusting bullshit like smegmas.

  • @TheDaggerStrike

    Sorry, but the science proves your assertion is nonsense, lost sensation:

    Fine-touch pressure thresholds in the adult penis Morris L. Sorrells, James L. Snyder, Mark D. Reiss 2 0 07 BJU INTERNATIONAL 2007

    Studies may show that it reduces STD's, but the real world empirical evidence say that claim is nonsense..

    Smegma? bathe!